G410 irons...took the leap

[Nessism]

> @"Little Ned" said:

> For those that have gotten cushion inserts in the past, would you recommend them in the 410’s?

 

Cushion's suck. 1/4" ball bearings (3) in a silicone tube. The balls can come loose and the silicone tube causes the shaft to rust. I learned this after purchasing a used set of clubs with Cushion's that were falling apart. No thanks.

[bigbore56]

I bit the bullet and sold my G's, and purchased the G410's. Played 18 holes on Friday, and my buddy couldn't belive how many greens I hit. Ball flight was much higher than my G series, and all shots were a full club length longer. Got tired of putting from the back of the greens on the front 9, so I clubbed down on back 9. Shot a decent round, and didn't have to buy the beer afterward which is rare. Really like the flight and feel of these with the AWT 2.0 Reg steel shafts (which is what I hit on Demo Days). Just turned 63 and retired, so I plan to play at least 5 rounds a week this summer, and hopefully get back into the low 80's.

[putts4bogey]

They look nice.

[Little Ned]

How’s everyone liking the AWT shafts?

 

And how do they compare to Steelfiber i95 R? Or the Dynamic Gold 105’s)

[braincramp52]

> @"Little Ned" said:

> How’s everyone liking the AWT shafts?

>

> And how do they compare to Steelfiber i95 R? Or the Dynamic Gold 105’s)

 

I always played the AWT's but for me they didn't produce as good of results as the Dynamic Golds or the KBS Tour's. I can't stress enough to get fitted somewhere you can see your numbers, otherwise it's just like peeing into the wind.

[Little Ned]

> @lawsonman said:

> > @"Little Ned" said:

> > How’s everyone liking the AWT shafts?

> >

> > And how do they compare to Steelfiber i95 R? Or the Dynamic Gold 105’s)

>

> I always played the AWT's but for me they didn't produce as good of results as the Dynamic Golds or the KBS Tour's. I can't stress enough to get fitted somewhere you can see your numbers, otherwise it's just like peeing into the wind.

 

Unfortunately, I may have to go without a fitting this time. When I went last time, I was fitted for Steelfiber i95 R. I like 'em but I'm not nearly good enough to warrant paying for them again. FWIW, the backup was KBS Tour 90 S.

 

This may be a blind purchase via BST (hopefully) or eBay.

[chigolfer1]

Thoughts on the AWT shaft? Is it noticeably lighter to you on the longer irons?

[braincramp52]

> @chigolfer1 said:

> Thoughts on the AWT shaft? Is it noticeably lighter to you on the longer irons?

 

I can't help you on the long irons, don't have any.

[Tommyj]

> @chigolfer1 said:

> Thoughts on the AWT shaft? Is it noticeably lighter to you on the longer irons?

 

A bit of a shaft comparison from the WRX section

 

[https://forums.golfwrx.com/discussion/1769982/ping-i210-in-awt-2-0-dg-105-or-modus-105#latest](https://forums.golfwrx.com/discussion/1769982/ping-i210-in-awt-2-0-dg-105-or-modus-105#latest "https://forums.golfwrx.com/discussion/1769982/ping-i210-in-awt-2-0-dg-105-or-modus-105#latest")

[Nessism]

> @chigolfer1 said:

> Thoughts on the AWT shaft? Is it noticeably lighter to you on the longer irons?

 

Yes it is. 10 grams lighter than the PW shaft.

[chigolfer1]

> @Tommyj said:

> > @chigolfer1 said:

> > Thoughts on the AWT shaft? Is it noticeably lighter to you on the longer irons?

>

> A bit of a shaft comparison from the WRX section

>

> [https://forums.golfwrx.com/discussion/1769982/ping-i210-in-awt-2-0-dg-105-or-modus-105#latest](https://forums.golfwrx.com/discussion/1769982/ping-i210-in-awt-2-0-dg-105-or-modus-105#latest "https://forums.golfwrx.com/discussion/1769982/ping-i210-in-awt-2-0-dg-105-or-modus-105#latest")

 

Thanks, great thread.

[Cwing]

Eta was for mine to ship today. 5/30/19. Here’s hoping they arrive sooner than later.

[jdnjo32]

Love the new G410 irons. Shot a best ever 69 tonight!

[matchavez]

> @jdnjo32 said:

> Love the new G410 irons. Shot a best ever 69 tonight!

Probably got that 9 done in under 3 hours. Well done! :D

 

[JMH1220]

What stock steel shaft should I order that would be close to performance as the Steelfiber i95 (arthritis in right wrist) I will be searching for a used set of these. I can have the shaft changed out from my G30’s (Steelfibers) if necessary. Don’t want to buy new with upcharge.

[braincramp52]

> @JMH1220 said:

> What stock steel shaft should I order that would be close to performance as the Steelfiber i95 (arthritis in right wrist) I will be searching for a used set of these. I can have the shaft changed out from my G30’s (Steelfibers) if necessary. Don’t want to buy new with upcharge.

 

Steelfiber's are very stiff tipped. Pings stock graphite shafts perform very well but are different than steelfibers. KBS Tours work very well for this old guy.

[JMH1220]

Yes that’s why I asked about the stock STEEL. Which stock STEEL will perform like the steelfiber.

[Little Ned]

> @JMH1220 said:

> What stock steel shaft should I order that would be close to performance as the Steelfiber i95 (arthritis in right wrist) I will be searching for a used set of these. I can have the shaft changed out from my G30’s (Steelfibers) if necessary. Don’t want to buy new with upcharge.

 

Steelfiber user here ... The Dynamic Gold 105 R300 felt similar.

[starrman77]

> @jdnjo32 said:

> Love the new G410 irons. Shot a best ever 69 tonight!

 

How did you do on the second 9?.....smiley:

 

 

[braincramp52]

> @JMH1220 said:

> Yes that’s why I asked about the stock STEEL. Which stock STEEL will perform like the steelfiber.

 

Sorry I had a senior moment and thought you preferred graphite because of your wrist problems .There's no way that someone can explain what feels like a steelfiber because all shafts feel different to each individual .Probably the best thing to do it's just start checking specs of All steel shafts and see which one matches up the best with the steel fibers.

[JMH1220]

Not feel (I know that), but perform

[Wooderson]

> @JMH1220 said:

> Not feel (I know that), but perform

 

I can't say for certain how a certain shaft will perform for you, but I can say that the Alta graphite shafts play plenty stiff, doesn't launch too high, and for me flew extremely straight with little curvature. I've got an 84-87 mph 7 iron speed and the stiff holds up very well. I've played steelfiber before and the altas are better in my opinion.

[braincramp52]

> @JMH1220 said:

> Not feel (I know that), but perform

 

No one can give you a correct answer to performance either. At least not one that is accurate. I'm not trying to be a smart a**. The only person that can give you the answer to your question is you. I'm trying to help you make a good decision and the only way you can do that is to take your irons and try the 410's on a trackman or flightscope or even just hit them side by side off grass. Anything anyone here tells you is strictly a guess.

[Marco Colo]

> @jdnjo32 said:

> Love the new G410 irons. Shot a best ever 69 tonight!

 

Amazing

 

[JMH1220]

> @Wooderson said:

> > @JMH1220 said:

> > Not feel (I know that), but perform

>

> I can't say for certain how a certain shaft will perform for you, but I can say that the Alta graphite shafts play plenty stiff, doesn't launch too high, and for me flew extremely straight with little curvature. I've got an 84-87 mph 7 iron speed and the stiff holds up very well. I've played steelfiber before and the altas are better in my opinion.

 

My 7 iron is exactly in that range. I will give the Alta stiff a demo try. I figured it would be too light. Thanks for the input.

[braincramp52]

> @JMH1220 said:

> > @Wooderson said:

> > > @JMH1220 said:

> > > Not feel (I know that), but perform

> >

> > I can't say for certain how a certain shaft will perform for you, but I can say that the Alta graphite shafts play plenty stiff, doesn't launch too high, and for me flew extremely straight with little curvature. I've got an 84-87 mph 7 iron speed and the stiff holds up very well. I've played steelfiber before and the altas are better in my opinion.

>

> My 7 iron is exactly in that range. I will give the Alta stiff a demo try. I figured it would be too light. Thanks for the input.

 

But you want STEEL! :) :)

[Wooderson]

> @JMH1220 said:

> > @Wooderson said:

> > > @JMH1220 said:

> > > Not feel (I know that), but perform

> >

> > I can't say for certain how a certain shaft will perform for you, but I can say that the Alta graphite shafts play plenty stiff, doesn't launch too high, and for me flew extremely straight with little curvature. I've got an 84-87 mph 7 iron speed and the stiff holds up very well. I've played steelfiber before and the altas are better in my opinion.

>

> My 7 iron is exactly in that range. I will give the Alta stiff a demo try. I figured it would be too light. Thanks for the input.

 

You thought right. Took some time to get used to the weight. Played fine in stock form, but did end up adding 10" of lead tape below the grip.

[JMH1220]

> @lawsonman said:

> > @JMH1220 said:

> > > @Wooderson said:

> > > > @JMH1220 said:

> > > > Not feel (I know that), but perform

> > >

> > > I can't say for certain how a certain shaft will perform for you, but I can say that the Alta graphite shafts play plenty stiff, doesn't launch too high, and for me flew extremely straight with little curvature. I've got an 84-87 mph 7 iron speed and the stiff holds up very well. I've played steelfiber before and the altas are better in my opinion.

> >

> > My 7 iron is exactly in that range. I will give the Alta stiff a demo try. I figured it would be too light. Thanks for the input.

>

> But you want STEEL! :) :)

 

I guess I wasn’t clear. Only steel with NO UPCHARGE due to the fact I assumed the ALTA was too light and not near the steelfiber quality. Initially I said steelfiber too much upgrade charge when I have a set of G30 with SF. Can switch out. Never even considered what I thought was a too light and lower quality graphite shaft like the ALTA. Want to buy used. About a zero chance I find specs with Alta anyway.

[Titleist_PT23]

> @JMH1220 said:

> > @lawsonman said:

> > > @JMH1220 said:

> > > > @Wooderson said:

> > > > > @JMH1220 said:

> > > > > Not feel (I know that), but perform

> > > >

> > > > I can't say for certain how a certain shaft will perform for you, but I can say that the Alta graphite shafts play plenty stiff, doesn't launch too high, and for me flew extremely straight with little curvature. I've got an 84-87 mph 7 iron speed and the stiff holds up very well. I've played steelfiber before and the altas are better in my opinion.

> > >

> > > My 7 iron is exactly in that range. I will give the Alta stiff a demo try. I figured it would be too light. Thanks for the input.

> >

> > But you want STEEL! :) :)

>

> I guess I wasn’t clear. Only steel with NO UPCHARGE due to the fact I assumed the ALTA was too light and not near the steelfiber quality. Initially I said steelfiber too much upgrade charge when I have a set of G30 with SF. Can switch out. Never even considered what I thought was a too light and lower quality graphite shaft like the ALTA. Want to buy used. About a zero chance I find specs with Alta anyway.

One other thing to consider, if you think there's a high probability that you will end up pulling the shafts and putting the SFs in, you may want to buy a set with a similar weighted shaft (if you care about swing weight)? Otherwise, I think the clubhead weight may not match up with a different weight shaft. I think there is also some impact on how the two shafts have their weight distributed but I don't know how that would change things.

[JMH1220]

> @agolf1 said:

> > @JMH1220 said:

> > > @lawsonman said:

> > > > @JMH1220 said:

> > > > > @Wooderson said:

> > > > > > @JMH1220 said:

> > > > > > Not feel (I know that), but perform

> > > > >

> > > > > I can't say for certain how a certain shaft will perform for you, but I can say that the Alta graphite shafts play plenty stiff, doesn't launch too high, and for me flew extremely straight with little curvature. I've got an 84-87 mph 7 iron speed and the stiff holds up very well. I've played steelfiber before and the altas are better in my opinion.

> > > >

> > > > My 7 iron is exactly in that range. I will give the Alta stiff a demo try. I figured it would be too light. Thanks for the input.

> > >

> > > But you want STEEL! :) :)

> >

> > I guess I wasn’t clear. Only steel with NO UPCHARGE due to the fact I assumed the ALTA was too light and not near the steelfiber quality. Initially I said steelfiber too much upgrade charge when I have a set of G30 with SF. Can switch out. Never even considered what I thought was a too light and lower quality graphite shaft like the ALTA. Want to buy used. About a zero chance I find specs with Alta anyway.

> One other thing to consider, if you think there's a high probability that you will end up pulling the shafts and putting the SFs in, you may want to buy a set with a similar weighted shaft (if you care about swing weight)? Otherwise, I think the clubhead weight may not match up with a different weight shaft. I think there is also some impact on how the two shafts have their weight distributed but I don't know how that would change things.

 

Thanks. It used to be so much easier to buy used clubs. Now there are so many variables to consider for each persons specs. Keeps people getting fitted for there own swing and having to buy new. Sometimes I think this is all a very good marketing ploy by the OEM’s because most golfers are the biggest suckers (me included) in the world.