SIM up close

[tsecor]

i love the shade of blue but holy crap that crown is BUSY!!  this would look sick in all matte black 

[thorsness]

Apologies if this has already been covered, but could someone compare the spin numbers from the SIM vs the SIM2? Specifically, which is lower spin.

 

I've done a bit of research but I've heard conflicted reports... @TaylorMade Golf

 

Thanks!

[TaylorMade Golf]

2 hours ago, tsecor said:

i love the shade of blue but holy crap that crown is BUSY!!  this would look sick in all matte black 

This is busy? 🤷‍♂️

[Mookie91]

5 minutes ago, TaylorMade Golf said:

This is busy? 🤷‍♂️

Looks fantastic. Pre-ordered mine today. Fingers crossed the fade bias and sound that was there last year wasn’t tweaked too much 😁

[LIGHT THE CANDLE]

I don’t understand why people didn’t like the face depth of the sim and are now so excited to have it back. I would guess most of you have a 3 wood in your bag and a lot of golfers hit it quite well often with better accuracy and good distance. Does larger face depth actually help or hinder you? I get it “bigger the face, more the forgiveness” but what I found with Sim  was that the shallower face actually forced me to hit the center more often.Personally I wish more OEMs would trend this way. Anyways something to think on 

3 wood face depth - 310mm

2016 m2 face depth - 510mm

2020 Sim face depth - 470mm

Not sure what the depth is on Sim2 Anyone? Thoughts

 

Edited January 20, 2021 by LIGHT THE CANDLE
Horrible grammar

[tsecor]

On 1/19/2021 at 6:19 PM, TaylorMade Golf said:

This is busy? 🤷‍♂️

for me, yes....the stark contrast in colors draws my eye away from the target area.....the transitional blue to grey racing stripe on each side seems unnecessary to me when you already have the blue outline wrapping around the side to the back of the crown.  so, for me personally, the two stripes draw your attention to the back of the crown because I see it as these two stripes are pointing to or framing out an area...mute those two lines with a dark grey and make the front line a dark grey or a matte black and it works for me.......I wanted to try the SIM2 but for my eye, it doesnt work.   

Edited January 22, 2021 by tsecor

[GarretG]

On 1/12/2021 at 9:12 AM, VNutz said:

Interesting, moving weights has been a thing with TM drivers for quite a while now. Odd to see them removed and so few options in terms of adjustability.

 

I like blue, so I dig the color scheme. As to the crown, that's on par with the looks since the M3, so I'm fine with it by now.

Just watched the Tour Player's reactions to this on YouTube and they were like "well, where did the weight go?" Lol.

[SwingBlues]

11 hours ago, tsecor said:

for me, yes....the stark contrast in colors draws my eye away from the target area.....the transitional blue to grey racing stripe on each side seems unnecessary to me when you already have the blue outline wrapping around the side to the back of the crown.  so, for me personally, the two stripes draw your attention to the back of the crown because I see it as these two stripes are pointing to or framing out an area...mute those two lines with a dark grey and make the front line a dark grey or a matte black and it works for me.......I wanted to try the SIM2 but for my eye, it doesnt work.   

 

 

...black electric tape would work if you are marooned on a golf course island with this driver. You may survive long enough to be rescued. You're welcome 3M 😜

[Valtiel]

3 hours ago, GarretG said:

Just watched the Tour Player's reactions to this on YouTube and they were like "well, where did the weight go?" Lol.

"This revolutionary design meant we had to make it less adjustable and take away features". 😅

[evoviiiyou]

Order in with my builder! Stoked to get it in person and get her dialed. Thanks for the info in this thread. 

[Mookie91]

I guess I’m the only one who doesn’t like moveable weights.

[ASN21]

2 hours ago, Mookie91 said:

I guess I’m the only one who doesn’t like moveable weights.

I am with you as well. Has never worked well for me on drivers. Most people set them and forget them anyways and if they are constantly changing the weights it is to their own detriment. 

[getitdaily]

32 minutes ago, ASN21 said:

I am with you as well. Has never worked well for me on drivers. Most people set them and forget them anyways and if they are constantly changing the weights it is to their own detriment. 

Well, 2 counter points...

 

1. MWT allows an off the shelf driver to be tailored to a player. Helps keep a player's consistent miss to be minimal. It's not about constantly changing the weight, it's about finding a setting and keeping it there.

2. MWT allows a driver to be changed if someone has a change in their game or ball. I played all last year in one setting. After tournament season I went about trying to minimize something that happened a few times in tournament rounds that cost me wins. I also changed balls. I was able to add loft to my driver while keeping it fade biased. I now have the driver set and forgotten again. But I was able to tweak because of MWT.

[ASN21]

17 minutes ago, getitdaily said:

Well, 2 counter points...

 

1. MWT allows an off the shelf driver to be tailored to a player. Helps keep a player's consistent miss to be minimal. It's not about constantly changing the weight, it's about finding a setting and keeping it there.

2. MWT allows a driver to be changed if someone has a change in their game or ball. I played all last year in one setting. After tournament season I went about trying to minimize something that happened a few times in tournament rounds that cost me wins. I also changed balls. I was able to add loft to my driver while keeping it fade biased. I now have the driver set and forgotten again. But I was able to tweak because of MWT.

One point:

 

if you need MWT to help with a swing or ball change you should invest in lessons instead. 
 

and no I am not anti mwt but I am here to dispel the crutch notions about mwt 

[getitdaily]

2 minutes ago, ASN21 said:

One point:

 

if you need MWT to help with a swing or ball change you should invest in lessons instead. 
 

and no I am not anti mwt but I am here to dispel the crutch notions about mwt 

I'm a +1...

[boyce89976]

21 hours ago, Mookie91 said:

I guess I’m the only one who doesn’t like moveable weights.

Most of the pictures I've seen of the tour player's SIM's, have the moveable weight in the stock "center" position.  They could be moving weight internally with hot melt, but I suspect use of hot melt would be more for sound than weight bias.  

 

 

[jll62]

19 minutes ago, boyce89976 said:

Most of the pictures I've seen of the tour player's SIM's, have the moveable weight in the stock "center" position.  They could be moving weight internally with hot melt, but I suspect use of hot melt would be more for sound than weight bias.  

 

There's a YouTube video from November where Trottie builds a SIM to DJ's specs at that time. He puts 8g of hot melt in the heel. They're using it for swing weighting and putting the weight where the player wants in the head. The back and front weights get changed to lighter weights, if needed. Most of these guys are not having their drivers dialed by changing the weight track.

 

People are getting too worked up about moveable weights, or the lack thereof. The last time I checked, this site still regards the 2016 M2 as one of the greatest drivers ever made. No moveable weights on that bad boy. I get why people want them, but they're not gone forever. Listen to what TM said in their tour pro video and some comments posted on other sites. Moveable weights aren't dead, they're just on hold. To accomplish what TM wanted with the new internal structure of SIM2, they had to remove the movable system, but you know they're working on it for future releases.

 

[boyce89976]

1 hour ago, jll62 said:

 

There's a YouTube video from November where Trottie builds a SIM to DJ's specs at that time. He puts 8g of hot melt in the heel. They're using it for swing weighting and putting the weight where the player wants in the head. The back and front weights get changed to lighter weights, if needed. Most of these guys are not having their drivers dialed by changing the weight track.

 

People are getting too worked up about moveable weights, or the lack thereof. The last time I checked, this site still regards the 2016 M2 as one of the greatest drivers ever made. No moveable weights on that bad boy. I get why people want them, but they're not gone forever. Listen to what TM said in their tour pro video and some comments posted on other sites. Moveable weights aren't dead, they're just on hold. To accomplish what TM wanted with the new internal structure of SIM2, they had to remove the movable system, but you know they're working on it for future releases.

 

That's what I figured, but I don't think 8g is enough to affect ball flight... that's only ~4% of the total weight... maybe ~8% if it's 100% offset by reducing the other weight plugs by the same amount.    

[tsecor]

On 1/23/2021 at 8:10 PM, ASN21 said:

I am with you as well. Has never worked well for me on drivers. Most people set them and forget them anyways and if they are constantly changing the weights it is to their own detriment. 

I always felt the moveable weights were a gimmick anyway. 

[tsecor]

On 1/22/2021 at 11:30 PM, Valtiel said:

"This revolutionary design meant we had to make it less adjustable and take away features". 😅

saving weight by removing the adjustable weight.....why was it added in the first place???

[Simpsonmj92]

Look so pure! GLWS!

[tsecor]

Tiger, Rory, DJ & Team TaylorMade's FIRST LOOK at SIM2 Driver | TaylorMade Golf - YouTube

 

No Day (i said DJ..duh) No Rham......Tiger is looking like he would rather be eaten alive by a chupa cabra......  

Edited January 28, 2021 by tsecor

[SwooshLT]

56 minutes ago, tsecor said:

Tiger, Rory, DJ & Team TaylorMade's FIRST LOOK at SIM2 Driver | TaylorMade Golf - YouTube

 

No DJ, No Rham......Tiger is looking like he would rather be eaten alive by a chupa cabra......  

 

You mean Jason Day?

[Poolparty]

On 1/19/2021 at 3:39 PM, tsecor said:

i love the shade of blue but holy crap that crown is BUSY!!  this would look sick in all matte black 

 

[Iñigo_Kolbe]

3 hours ago, Poolparty said:

 

I can’t wait to pick one of those up in 2 years when y’all have moved on to the SIM4. 😂

[SwingBlues]

13 hours ago, Iñigo_Kolbe said:

I can’t wait to pick one of those up in 2 years when y’all have moved on to the SIM4. 😂

 

Yep. Or pick up the heads in 6 months time when all this madness dies down.

 

Seriously, by then, we will know how the SIM2 carbon fiber sole will fair in real world slamming, throwing, clip the wooden tees real hackers world.

 

My suspicion, if it's like the OG GBB Epic heads that had some carbon on the sole near the rear, it will look like it's been sand papered, chipped etc definitely not the nice glossy look that WOWs everyone now. My 2c

[tsecor]

21 hours ago, Poolparty said:

 

lol!!!!! That is awesome!!!   i love it....and it looks insane.....THAT i would buy.  Ill be honest.....that is what the driver SHOULD  look like......i think we have the model for the SIM 3

Edited January 28, 2021 by tsecor

[tsecor]

On 1/27/2021 at 1:20 PM, SwooshLT said:

 

You mean Jason Day?

lol...yea....meant day, not DJ...

[tsecor]

On 1/19/2021 at 6:19 PM, TaylorMade Golf said:

This is busy? 🤷‍♂️

check out the Matte black model on this thread.....it looks sick!!!! so good, id buy it without even hitting it

[Poolparty]

10 minutes ago, tsecor said:

lol!!!!! That is awesome!!!   i love it....and it looks insane.....THAT i would buy.  Ill be honest.....that is what the driver SHOULD  look like......i think we have the model for the SIM 3

I know. I'd buy it too. I think the last TM driver I considered was the black r15. Everything since has looked insane to me. Just give me a big black driver that rips. That's all I care about