Someone has to do it : ) Who gets the grand slam first...

[cardoustie]

Brooks

[miamistomp]

YJS

[zonadub]

53 minutes ago, 1putt2win2 said:

 

huh??? jack won the the us open and pga in 1980, then the masters in 1986...tiger 2008 us open and then of course the 2019 masters.

 

anyways i go with spieth to win before mcilroy(if ever)....i just think rory will end up being the most overrated GREAT player of all time.

Wasn’t sure how to say it...

Jack won in 1980. 6 years to The Masters win In 1986. None since

Tiger won in 2008, 11 years to The Masters in 2019. None since

Edited April 14, 2021 by zonadub

[bscinstnct]

It’s interesting, since Bobby Jones first knocked up the impregnable quadrilateral, only the very greatest of greats can count a  modern grand slam in their conquests.

 

Jack, TW, Hogan, Player, Gene Sarazen 

 

 

All are regarded as having, at their best, golf games without weakness and long standing histories having rock solid golf minds, cool under pressure, steely resolve.

 

The guys with 3, it’s amazing that many have multiples of one but just never were able to close out that last one despite many attempts.

 

Its a “chicken or the egg” observation but,

 

Is it that you can’t win the grand slam without first being a truly elite great of the game?

 

Or that you become an all time great by winning a grand slam?

 

 

 

 

[miamistomp]

16 minutes ago, bscinstnct said:

It’s interesting, since Bobby Jones first knocked up the impregnable quadrilateral, only the very greatest of greats can count a  modern grand slam in their conquests.

 

Jack, TW, Hogan, Player, Gene Sarazen 

 

 

All are regarded as having, at their best, golf games without weakness and long standing histories having rock solid golf minds, cool under pressure, steely resolve.

 

The guys with 3, it’s amazing that many have multiples of one but just never were able to close out that last one despite many attempts.

 

Its a “chicken or the egg” observation but,

 

Is it that you can’t win the grand slam without first being a truly elite great of the game?

 

Or that you become an all time great by winning a grand slam?

 

 

 

 

 It is  a tough road

  5 have won all 4

 

   12 golfers have won 3 different majors

 

 

[Neo1]

1 hour ago, zonadub said:

Wasn’t sure how to say it...

Jack won in 1980. 6 years to The Masters win In 1986. None since

Tiger won in 2008, 11 years to The Masters in 2019. None since

 

gotcha now...but in relation to Rory and Jordan are you trying to say Rory's next major has to be the Masters or else he'll never win one after that? and Jordan has a year and a half to win another major or else he'll never get the PGA? golfers don't usually win much majors in their 40's and the old generation had later peaks to their careers...except the GOAT's of course

[dalehead]

4 hours ago, zonadub said:

It takes a generational talent to win the grand slam. Four of the five who have completed the Grand Slam, Sarazen, Hogan, Nicklaus and Woods, were regarded as the best players of their time. And Player won 9 majors while traveling the world.

The list of those who are 1 major short of the grand slam are the likes of Hagen, Nelson, Snead, Palmer and Watson. They all have won at least 6 majors each. Then there are those who are 2 majors short, like Ballesteros, who have also won multiple majors. All these players were also regarded as the best among their peers.

 

This has just been a long way to say that neither McIlroy (with 4 and a mental block at the Masters now) nor Spieth (with a single win in each of the others) are in that category.

 

Not sure if this little statistic fits here, but when a player has gone more than 5 years between majors, they have not added to the total after that. This includes Nicklaus and Woods. That said, McIlroy has been major-less for 7 years and Spieth, who won The Open in 2017 and has the rest of this year and next. Is history is a reliable indicator? If so, it appears that McIlroy will not complete the Grand Slam. Spieth is returning to form, so his chances appear to be slightly better, but more likely to be included in one of the other lists.

 

Minor point, but just to be fair, Hagen was 42 and past his prime when the first Masters was played in 1934. And Byron Nelson only played the Open once.

Edited April 14, 2021 by dalehead

[BIM_Monkey]

17 hours ago, m d g said:

This hasn't aged well : )

Did Jordan win a major? 

[zonadub]

8 hours ago, 1putt2win2 said:

 

gotcha now...but in relation to Rory and Jordan are you trying to say Rory's next major has to be the Masters or else he'll never win one after that? and Jordan has a year and a half to win another major or else he'll never get the PGA? golfers don't usually win much majors in their 40's and the old generation had later peaks to their careers...except the GOAT's of course

Not saying that it has to be that way, but history says that if McIlroy’s next major is not the Masters, he will likely not complete the grand slam.
Spieth might be different. There are 7 more majors before he is 5 years removed from his last major. History would say if he can win one of those, he re-sets the 5 year clock. That would give him many opportunities to win a PGA, especially if he picks up any other major as that particular clock ticks.

 

On the other hand, as you have hinted, they are both still young, and there are many majors left in their careers. Barring injury, such as Woods, they have a fantastic chance to rewrite history. That said, it is hard to win any tournament on the PGA Tour, and there are only 4 chances a year to win a major.

[m d g]

2 hours ago, BIM_Monkey said:

Did Jordan win a major? 

Going off trajectories...I wonder what the Vegas odds are?

[3whacker]

who wins another major first

 

DJ

JS

BDC

RM

JT

or the new crop of best players without a major

 

Zalatoris

Conners

Rahm

Finau

Fleetwood

Scheffler

Hovland

Schauffle

 

 

[ebk]

Between YJS and Rory?  YJS.  2021.

[teude]

No one has ever achieved modern grand slam so i'm gonna say no one will until i see it.

 

Then if we are talking about career grand slams i believe OJS will get it before Rory.

Edited April 15, 2021 by teude

[bscinstnct]

13 minutes ago, teude said:

No one has ever achieved modern grand slam so i'm gonna say no one will until i see it.

 

Then if we are talking about career grand slams i believe OJS will get it before Rory.

 

Tiger Slam beat GS

 

4 consecutive majors and Players Championship

 

Throw in back to back PGA Championship 99/00

 

Is like a guy in MLB batting .450 and hitting 100 HRs

[Pingfitz]

Jordan.

[dalehead]

Don’t know who gets it first but YJS and Rory are both way too young to right off the chances of them achieving the career slam.

[KennyP]

Too much pressure now on both.

 

With every passing year the chances diminish. 

 

Rory has never looked further from winning a major than he does now. Just getting back to winning a regular PGA tour event would be an achievement this season.

 

Spieth has got his game back, but I'm not sure he'll ever return to the form of 2015-7. The chances of peaking on the week of the PGA championship, on a course which favors his game, not coming up against someone else playing better and the all-important bit of luck needed are slim.

 

 

Edited April 16, 2021 by KennyP

[bladehunter]

Of course the answer is still Jordan.  Has what 15-17 more realistic chances .  Pretty good odds compared to almost anyone else.  

[gvogel]

Since Tom Watson won 8 majors, but did not achieve the Grand Slam, I doubt that either Rory or Jordan will. I also doubt that either will win 8 majors.

[Ironman_32]

Do you think it makes it easier or harder for ether that the PGA rotates courses but the Masters is on the same course. 

 

You would think Rory would be able to figure out one course, but JS could also get it to a land at a course he really likes. 

[johnseg]

I have to go with JS. RM has to win at Augusta which requires better putting and wedge play than I think he is capable of having. JS has to win the PGA which has an ever changing set of courses one of which will really suit him.

 

DJ could be the sleeper to beat both of them.

[teude]

On 4/15/2021 at 8:16 PM, bscinstnct said:

 

Tiger Slam beat GS

 

4 consecutive majors and Players Championship

 

Throw in back to back PGA Championship 99/00

 

Is like a guy in MLB batting .450 and hitting 100 HRs

No idea about baseball, but still no one has moden Grand Slam. Tiger Slam is great, but still not same thing.

[KRAMER1997]

Based on current form

1. Jordan

2. Brooks

3. Dustin

4. Phil

5. Tom Watson

6. Lee Trevino

7. Arnold Palmer

8. Hideki

9. Will Zalatoris

10. Tiger wins all 4 again

11. Me

12. Rory

 

Edited April 16, 2021 by KRAMER1997
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[jmcf1949]

If it happens, it’ll have to be a young stud with his twenty-five year career in front of him. Jack and Tiger couldn’t do it and they are the best who ever played.

[KRAMER1997]

A few side notes: if no one completes the career GS this year it's be 21 years since any one has done so! Obviously if Phil could keep it on F'n planet on Sunday at Winged Foot this he wouldn't even be in this discussion.

Also I personally think Rory will never win at Augusta, dude just isn't disciplined enough to win on that course (fun fact Hideki was in the bottom 10 in driving distance out of all the players who made the cut). He always gets himself out of position on a hole or 2 on Thursday/Friday, makes a big number and is usually playing catch up.

Augusta is a 2nd shot course, just get the ball in play and go from there. I know it's 7500 yards which is long obviously, but looking at the scorecard, there are 5 par 4's 450 yards and under, and the 2 par 5's on the back are both under 530 yards (for now at least).  3 of the last 4 winners of the Masters (Reed, Tiger, Hideki), were average in terms of driving distance but won because they were never really out of position. 

[iNeedMoreGolf]

Healthy koepka probably.

[iNeedMoreGolf]

On 4/17/2021 at 9:41 PM, KRAMER1997 said:

A few side notes: if no one completes the career GS this year it's be 21 years since any one has done so! Obviously if Phil could keep it on F'n planet on Sunday at Winged Foot this he wouldn't even be in this discussion.

Also I personally think Rory will never win at Augusta, dude just isn't disciplined enough to win on that course (fun fact Hideki was in the bottom 10 in driving distance out of all the players who made the cut). He always gets himself out of position on a hole or 2 on Thursday/Friday, makes a big number and is usually playing catch up.

Augusta is a 2nd shot course, just get the ball in play and go from there. I know it's 7500 yards which is long obviously, but looking at the scorecard, there are 5 par 4's 450 yards and under, and the 2 par 5's on the back are both under 530 yards (for now at least).  3 of the last 4 winners of the Masters (Reed, Tiger, Hideki), were average in terms of driving distance but won because they were never really out of position. 

Its soo crazy... its like their is no finesse in some of this guys game. Its like impossible to convince them that if they can accept losing ten yards but being in the fairway... not trying to play hero ball all the time... and not have panic attacks over putting maybe something would click and they can get it done. Thats why speith was on fire for a while... finesse game... morikawa looks similar but has to clean up a bit and putt better but hes got serious game too. These guys get in their own way but dont we all ?? 

[grm24]

On 4/17/2021 at 9:41 PM, KRAMER1997 said:

A few side notes: if no one completes the career GS this year it's be 21 years since any one has done so! Obviously if Phil could keep it on F'n planet on Sunday at Winged Foot this he wouldn't even be in this discussion.

Or had Phil not made poor swings/shots/decisions in 3-4 other US Opens during final round that he finished 2nd in. Such as Merion, Pinehurst, Shinnecock and Bethpage (09).

[johnseg]

Only 5 players have achieved the modern Career Grand Slam. Tiger and Jack have 3 each. It truly is a great achievement.

 

If Tiger could come back and win 1 more US Open and get his 4th is he then ahead of Jack?🤐