Can Bryson drive par 5 6th at Bay Hill?

[stingerfade]

2 hours ago, tungstenplug said:

 

Then why didn't everyone else take his line?

 

Going for it implies taking a risk. Your negativity is coming across as jealousy. Not a good look

Ummm nobody’s questioning he drives it longer than almost everyone. What is being questioned is the fact you think he went for the green with, without debate, he didn’t. Sooooo....Jealous of what? The fact that you’re wrong? Might be the worst take I’ve ever read lol 

 

you prob want to call me a boomer or hater now 

Edited March 7, 2021 by stingerfade

[bladehunter]

3 hours ago, tungstenplug said:

 

Then why didn't everyone else take his line?

 

Going for it implies taking a risk. Your negativity is coming across as jealousy. Not a good look

It’s not really negativity as it is the hate of the hyperbolic hype ( take that English majors ) that they impart on this guy.  If they’d just tell it as it is “ he’s biting off more of the lake than others “ instead of claiming he will go at the green , then every yahoo that doesn’t listen wouldn’t be claiming he drove  the green. My take.  

Edited March 7, 2021 by bladehunter

[Shilgy]

1 hour ago, Josh L. said:

Bryson "sideshow" DeChambaeu 

 

Enough about his attempts to drive the 6th, there's been plenty of great shots, including multiple holes in one that haven't received half the publicity this has. 

Lol, I will fix that for you....

That would be “US Open champion Bryson DeChambeau” 

 

How is that a sideshow?  I will never get wrx. At least half the crowd here agreed with Faldo that Rickie doesn’t try hard enough. Then you get Bryson, who puts his whole being into being the absolute best golfer he can be and he gets called a “sideshow “?

[teude]

Yes. Yes he can.

[bladehunter]

17 minutes ago, Shilgy said:

Lol, I will fix that for you....

That would be “US Open champion Bryson DeChambeau” 

 

How is that a sideshow?  I will never get wrx. At least half the crowd here agreed with Faldo that Rickie doesn’t try hard enough. Then you get Bryson, who puts his whole being into being the absolute best golfer he can be and he gets called a “sideshow “?

I’ll agree with that on a 99% level.  1% of me though gets the sideshow comments.    And I feel that way because I actually think he could win more if he hit driver less. He’s an excellent putter.  That part of his game is more of a game hack , cheat code , game changer than 340 into the weeds can ever be. Upright  Armlock is his real resume star bullet point.  Not his weird want of making a backsliding career move and becoming a long drive champion.  
 

I’d be a huge fan if he started the paying a little smarter.  I think he’d have more majors than 1 if he did.  My 2 cents. 

Edited March 7, 2021 by bladehunter

[Shilgy]

3 hours ago, tungstenplug said:

 

 

 

This is what he went for. Notice how all the other PGA Tour golfers went way to the right, requiring a forced carry of maybe 200 yards, while Bryson "went for" a forced carry of 330+ yards. That's a big difference in the sport of golf. You can see his ball in this graphic, nowhere near any of the other players. Rory is the only other red dot in the same realm. Taking this line has much more risk than everyone else decided to take. Anything else I can sound out for you today?

I am pretty sure even the conservative line was 250-270 carry. I think it was Fleetwood,but could certainly be wrong, that carried it 275 and barely cleared water on the conservative line barely left of the bunkers.

[bladehunter]

2 minutes ago, teude said:

Yes. Yes he can.

Lol.  I thought it went into the bunker ? 

[teude]

Just now, bladehunter said:

Lol.  I thought it went into the bunker ? 

He can still drive it to the green, no doubt.

[ChillyDipper]

Out of curiosity for those here saying that the distance to get on the green does not equal being able to hit the green, I'm wondering how you would respond to two scenarios:

• His ball lands on the green but rolls off
• His ball hits a foreign object (say sprinkler head or rock) and then stops on the green.

Do either of those count as hitting the green?

[bladehunter]

Just now, teude said:

He can still drive it to the green, no doubt.

Yes. He can hit it that  long.  But under the gun he hadn’t tried yet.  So it’s really hard to say “ yes he can “.    Under the gun and on the range isn’t the same. He knows that.  That’s why he hasn’t Aimed at the green.  

[Poolparty]

He's a unicorn

[Shilgy]

3 minutes ago, bladehunter said:

I’ll agree with that on a 99% level.  1% of me though gets the sideshow comments.    And I feel that way because I actually think he could win more if he hit driver less. He’s an excellent putter.  That part of his game is more of a game hack , cheat code , game changer than 340 into the weeds can ever be. Upright  Armlock is his real resume star bullet point.  Not his weird want of making a backsliding career move and becoming a long drive champion.  
 

I’d be a huge fan if he started the paying a little smarter.  I think he’d have more majors than 1 if he did.  My 2 cents. 

Maybe, but it is a new strategy system so that will come. He’s 27 with 7 wins including. Rivera, the Memorial and the US Open. Not shabby in my book.

[bladehunter]

5 minutes ago, ChillyDipper said:

Out of curiosity for those here saying that the distance to get on the green does not equal being able to hit the green, I'm wondering how you would respond to two scenarios:

• His ball lands on the green but rolls off
• His ball hits a foreign object (say sprinkler head or rock) and then stops on the green.

Do either of those count as hitting the green?

Neither.  One got help.  Like a cartpath ball. One isn’t on the green.  
 

now for me , if he aims at the green. And clears water.  I’d say yes.  Now. Under the gun can his nerves hit it that far and accurate?  Cant say , he hasn’t tried it yet. Has to be for a reason.  Because hitting it into that front bunker hasn’t worked out too well.  

Edited March 7, 2021 by bladehunter

[bladehunter]

1 minute ago, Shilgy said:

Maybe, but it is a new strategy system so that will come. He’s 27 with 7 wins including. Rivera, the Memorial and the US Open. Not shabby in my book.

Right. And that’s a valid point.  I’m all for giving time to work it out.    He certainly didn’t putt lights out right away.  So that worked.  
 

I very much like his swing and game in general.  Upright - is right.  Lol.  

[Shilgy]

Even Westwood enjoyed Bryson’s drive on 6 today.

[golfandfishing]

19 minutes ago, bladehunter said:

Yes. He can hit it that  long.  But under the gun he hadn’t tried yet.  So it’s really hard to say “ yes he can “.    Under the gun and on the range isn’t the same. He knows that.  That’s why he hasn’t Aimed at the green.  

Yup. There is a difference between “capable of” and “can” when it counts. Lots of people can’t do things that they are perfectly capable of. I know a person that speaks very eloquently, she is capable of speaking perfectly. However, she can’t speak in front of a crowd of more than about 4 people in a room. She is capable of doing it since I have heard her speak just fine, but she can’t do it. 

[Pepperturbo]

I watched him yesterday.  BD didn't go for the green, but I suspect it was more of a testing for clearance.  His line was close enough to the green to gauge cover yardage.  HE was considerably nearer than all others, including Rory.  He demonstrated he can easily carry the water if conditions are right, and he enjoys playing to the gallery, while most others play to the scorecard.

Edited March 7, 2021 by Pepperturbo

[bladehunter]

13 minutes ago, golfandfishing said:

Yup. There is a difference between “capable of” and “can” when it counts. Lots of people can’t do things that they are perfectly capable of. I know a person that speaks very eloquently, she is capable of speaking perfectly. However, she can’t speak in front of a crowd of more than about 4 people in a room. She is capable of doing it since I have heard her speak just fine, but she can’t do it. 

Right.   If a player “ can “ hit his 9 iron 150 everytime on the range , but during tournament play pulls the 8 and hits a wipe 10 ft off the right of every green.  Can he hit a green with his 9?   Don’t know.  Have to wait and see what happens when he tries. 

[anw79]

1 hour ago, bladehunter said:

It’s not really negativity as it is the hate of the hyperbolic hype ( take that English majors ) that they impart on this guy.  If they’d just tell it as it is “ he’s biting off more of the lake than others “ instead of claiming he will go at the green , then every yahoo that doesn’t listen wouldn’t be claiming he drove  the green. My take.  

 

I agree with this.  NBC doesn't help it when they immediately flash a graphic showing 170 yards between Bryson's and Lee's balls, leading uninformed people to start the narrative that Bryson outdrove Lee by 170.  And then I got called a boomer on here yesterday for saying Bryson isn't much longer than Rory, which is a fact.

 

I don't think anyone is saying Bryson isn't long.  It's more that when you hear the way people talk about him, you would think he's 20+ yards past his nearest competitors on every hole which just isn't the case.  He's 4 yards longer than Rory on average for the season.

[tungstenplug]

16 minutes ago, anw79 said:

 

I agree with this.  NBC doesn't help it when they immediately flash a graphic showing 170 yards between Bryson's and Lee's balls, leading uninformed people to start the narrative that Bryson outdrove Lee by 170.  And then I got called a boomer on here yesterday for saying Bryson isn't much longer than Rory, which is a fact.

 

I don't think anyone is saying Bryson isn't long.  It's more that when you hear the way people talk about him, you would think he's 20+ yards past his nearest competitors on every hole which just isn't the case.  He's 4 yards longer than Rory on average for the season.

 

I guess there needs to be something more exciting for the media to talk about

[MUNIGRIT]

Bryson has made his haters look stupid so much over the last few years. All they have now is some fake news narrative that it won't last and he will get hurt.

[bladehunter]

41 minutes ago, anw79 said:

 

I agree with this.  NBC doesn't help it when they immediately flash a graphic showing 170 yards between Bryson's and Lee's balls, leading uninformed people to start the narrative that Bryson outdrove Lee by 170.  And then I got called a boomer on here yesterday for saying Bryson isn't much longer than Rory, which is a fact.

 

I don't think anyone is saying Bryson isn't long.  It's more that when you hear the way people talk about him, you would think he's 20+ yards past his nearest competitors on every hole which just isn't the case.  He's 4 yards longer than Rory on average for the season.

Lol.  As for the boomer thing.  I laugh.  Because 99 times out of 100 when someone hurls that at someone , it’s not even accurate as far as generational goes.  And it’s 100 % of the time thrown by someone who isn’t old enough to not think of 35 as old.  I recall what I thought I knew then.   And I laugh.  I was an absolute idiot. As I am now , compared to say a 90 year old who’s been places and done things. So when you hear that said , just do as I do and laugh.  And know that the vendor of fallacies is  just speaking out of ignorance , as we all do from time to time.  It’s just them tipping their hand .  Nothing more.  

[bladehunter]

30 minutes ago, tungstenplug said:

 

I guess there needs to be something more exciting for the media to talk about

It’s not really the media as much as the twit- ersphere.  And you can’t get more exciting than a lie.  I mean made up things are pretty much unbeatable. 

[MPAndreassi]

On 2/28/2021 at 10:21 AM, 5 O'Clock Charlie said:

Messing around in a practice round, sure. During the tournament when there is a group on the green and the group ahead is waiting to hit their second shots (if they are going for it in 2), is he going to wait 20 minutes and back up the entire field? I would hope not. The game is slow enough as it is.

As much as I agree with the game being too slow, I disagree with this statement. The goal is to shoot the lowest score possible, that’s how you win, and if that means needing to take extra time to wait then go ahead and do it. This is an issue at some of the local clubs in my area. Some of the par 4s are reachable for longer hitters. During a normal round I’ll lay up but if it’s any kind of tournament or match I’m not going to concern myself with the pace of play and miss out on the opportunity to score better. 

[anw79]

17 minutes ago, bladehunter said:

Lol.  As for the boomer thing.  I laugh.  Because 99 times out of 100 when someone hurls that at someone , it’s not even accurate as far as generational goes.  And it’s 100 % of the time thrown by someone who isn’t old enough to not think of 35 as old.  I recall what I thought I knew then.   And I laugh.  I was an absolute idiot. As I am now , compared to say a 90 year old who’s been places and done things. So when you hear that said , just do as I do and laugh.  And know that the vendor of fallacies is  just speaking out of ignorance , as we all do from time to time.  It’s just them tipping their hand .  Nothing more.  

 

For sure, I definitely got a good laugh out of it.  Especially considering that even if I was double my age, I would barely be the same age as the youngest boomers haha.

[bladehunter]

Just now, anw79 said:

 

For sure, I definitely got a good laugh out of it.  Especially considering that even if I was double my age, I would barely be the same age as the youngest boomers haha.

Right.  Exactly.  I’m not one either.  Not by a long shot.  

[lefthack]

While I'm not a huge fan, it's damn impressive. If you can, swing away.

[ALIF]

Who won the tournament today?

[tungstenplug]

1 minute ago, ALIF said:

Who won the tournament today?

 

It's too bad his ball didn't come to rest on the green in 1 stroke on that par 5. Playing a smart line just right of the green and winning the event was a nice consolation, I suppose. Hopefully he works on what he needs to work on the rest of this year and can finally drive it on the surface of the green on the par 5 6th hole at next years event

[golfandfishing]

11 minutes ago, ALIF said:

Who won the tournament today?

The guy who played the best for sure. No one questioned his scores in this thread. He also won primarily because of his putter today.