New Netflix docu-series on PGA Tour

[Anser3]

1 minute ago, TiScape said:

I’d laugh every time I saw the Arby’s logo. Classic.

 

 

He reminds me of the cavemen in the Geico commercials.

[Anser3]

On 2/16/2023 at 9:02 AM, Ole3wiggle said:

I just don't get what the point of the first episode was? Nothing in the episode was intriguing at all. Like if they would have showed more of Mito's story and why him blowing it on the 18th meant more for him than JT coming back to win, it would have showed contrast and made the 18th hole scene way more intense. 

 

Like if you're going to introduce someone to Professional Golf, who doesn't watch it or isn't a fan, then actually dive into how the PGA TOUR season is laid out and how you need to make cuts to get paid, need to make cuts to make fedexcup points and need fedexcup points to keep your TOUR card or you'll be relegated to the lower Tour where the $ is substantially less. And show the difference! That sets up the plate for the viewer and they can understand moving forward what these guys are actually playing for. Then show some guys who struggle week in & week out vs the guys like JT & Spieth who are comfortably well off and a missed cut isn't as big of a deal. 

 

 

 

 

Agree.  For people who don't know the workings of the Tour, it would be easy for them to come away with the mindset that every single player with a Tour Card is set financially, making hundreds of thousands or millions every year.  I wish they had picked one guy on the fringe of staying on Tour and followed him (where missed cuts mean losing your card altogether or barely scraping by money-wise). I remember hearing stories about Dale Earnhardt doing dirt track racing and spending almost his entire pay check to make sure his car was decent enough. to give him a chance.  Not placing in the money meant not eating.  I am not saying I condone this behavior (and Dale had  a young family so I definitely don't condone it). I bet there are guys on the fringes of the PGA Tour who operate in a similar manner.

[m d g]

13 minutes ago, Anser3 said:

It seemed like Jenna was more concerned about showing off T&A than anything else.  

 

Not like anyone is complaining...

[m d g]

12 minutes ago, Anser3 said:

He reminds me of the cavemen in the Geico commercials.

Golf is so easy, even a caveman can do it!

[Anser3]

5 minutes ago, m d g said:

Not like anyone is complaining...

Uhh, what you quoted and responded to was not part of my post.  That apparently was in the post I responded to.  I didn't even know the quote about Brooks S.O. was in there.    My post was about Brooks and baseball.

[nikeblades00]

4 minutes ago, m d g said:

Not like anyone is complaining...

I hate to be that guy, but I'll pass on the 'petite sirloin' ripped glutes.

[TiScape]

7 minutes ago, m d g said:

Not like anyone is complaining...

I was underwhelmed/surprised by the posterior view. I mean, above average sure, but meh… But it def beat looking at Brooks’ mopey face. 

[JungleJimbo]

18 minutes ago, Anser3 said:

 

 

Agree.  For people who don't know the workings of the Tour, it would be easy for them to come away with the mindset that every single player with a Tour Card is set financially, making hundreds of thousands or millions every year.  I wish they had picked one guy on the fringe of staying on Tour and followed him (where missed cuts mean losing your card altogether or barely scraping by money-wise). I remember hearing stories about Dale Earnhardt doing dirt track racing and spending almost his entire pay check to make sure his car was decent enough. to give him a chance.  Not placing in the money meant not eating.  I am not saying I condone this behavior (and Dale had  a young family so I definitely don't condone it). I bet there are guys on the fringes of the PGA Tour who operate in a similar manner.

 

 

 

[m d g]

1 hour ago, Anser3 said:

Uhh, what you quoted and responded to was not part of my post.  That apparently was in the post I responded to.  I didn't even know the quote about Brooks S.O. was in there.    My post was about Brooks and baseball.

Uhh, I copied a quote and don't have time to track down the original. Lighten up, you'll live longer. Uhh...

[m d g]

1 hour ago, nikeblades00 said:

I hate to be that guy, but I'll pass on the 'petite sirloin' ripped glutes.

Live and let live...I understand...

[m d g]

1 hour ago, TiScape said:

I was underwhelmed/surprised by the posterior view. I mean, above average sure, but meh… But it def beat looking at Brooks’ mopey face. 

If that's underwhelming for you, then God bless you, my son : )

[2bGood]

On 2/19/2023 at 5:59 PM, Tpfol said:

Because ultimately the unspoken story is the comparison to LIV golf. Which is why they also talk size of field and 72 holes....

 

I watch the first few episodes with some golfing buddies over beer, and we got a kick out of how they over explained how everything worked, but also understood why they did it - the show is for a non-golf audience. 

 

A few non golf fan friends watched it and they both found it really interesting that you can go play and not get paid... 

[Interpol]

On 2/16/2023 at 1:53 PM, Mych said:

Also nice to see that some players have fairly "normal" looking wives and houses. I'll just ignore their girlfriends and private jets. 🙂

No kidding.  Brooks' house was just way over the top.

[Chrysalis99]

I just watched the first 4 episodes and it was good. Obviously geared more towards casual or non-fans but still interesting. I came away with a much better impression of Dahmen. He’s not the azz-hat I thought he was. 

Edited February 21, 2023 by Chrysalis99

[Interpol]

On 2/18/2023 at 9:43 AM, dcmidnight said:

I struggle to see a second season of this but I guess they are already making it? I dont know. How many times can you teach people what a cut it. But if you're going to do a documentary on the PGA Tour, I cant do another 8 episodes with the same LIV shots of Phil and the same soundbites mixed into every episode - you want to make a LIV documentary, then go make that.

 

I was one of the hole captains at the Genesis Invitational last weekend and not only did Netflix have a big "Full Swing" booth, there were cameramen following certain groups and filming.  So yeah, I'm betting a second season is coming.

[TiScape]

5 minutes ago, Interpol said:

I was one of the hole captains at the Genesis Invitational last weekend and not only did Netflix have a big "Full Swing" booth, there were cameramen following certain groups and filming.  So yeah, I'm betting a second season is coming.

Very cool. I worked the Genesis last year (Niemann’s win) and didn’t even know they were filming. When I watched the episode I ended up being in a couple of the shots. Maybe the same for you next season!

[grm24]

14 hours ago, MK7Golf21 said:

Brooks struggled before he had those hot couple years in majors so it's nothing new, that's golf.

Define struggled. Koepka won his first major in 2017. In the two previous seasons before that he won nearly 7 million dollars and had his first tour win during that timeframe. And he wasn't struggling in the 2016/17 season before he won the US Open. Plenty of people would have liked to have struggled like that. Was ranked in the top 20 of the OWGR for a great deal of time in those seasons.

 

Edited February 21, 2023 by grm24

[me05501]

There are sooo many workout segments. We get it. The players have to stay fit. They also work on their golf game, right? And their gear? And their various businesses and responsibilities outside the ropes? Let's see some of that next season. 

[MtlJeff]

12 hours ago, 2bGood said:

 

I watch the first few episodes with some golfing buddies over beer, and we got a kick out of how they over explained how everything worked, but also understood why they did it - the show is for a non-golf audience. 

 

A few non golf fan friends watched it and they both found it really interesting that you can go play and not get paid... 

 

I read a pretty good take on it, that one issue with the show is that it doesn't seem to be for anyone. I have only seen a few episodes so far and am enjoying it, but i understand the critique

 

My wife watched a couple with me and had 100 questions, so the show doesn't really explain enough to be truly aimed at general audience. Yet as was pointed out above, for serious golf fans, shows like Episode 1 probably don't break any new ground at all. 

 

I thought the Koepka episode was excellent, however--and that show clearly was more for the serious fans. I mean it doesn't really spend much time telling you that this guy was THE MAN for like 3 years. It kind of glosses over it. For casual fans some kind of Tony Montana "push it to the limits" montage would have been fairly appropriate at the beginning

 

My wife was watching with me and was like "So, Koepka was really good at one time right?" So it kinda comes across but not really

 

Anyway, it's definitely a good watch--But i also wonder if they knew who they were making it for

[Chrysalis99]

13 hours ago, m d g said:

If that's underwhelming for you, then God bless you, my son : )

To each his own right? I thought it was outstanding but some guys just like Lotta Azz…she’s definitely not that 

[jonsnow]

12 minutes ago, MtlJeff said:

 

I read a pretty good take on it, that one issue with the show is that it doesn't seem to be for anyone. I have only seen a few episodes so far and am enjoying it, but i understand the critique

 

My wife watched a couple with me and had 100 questions, so the show doesn't really explain enough to be truly aimed at general audience. Yet as was pointed out above, for serious golf fans, shows like Episode 1 probably don't break any new ground at all. 

 

I thought the Koepka episode was excellent, however--and that show clearly was more for the serious fans. I mean it doesn't really spend much time telling you that this guy was THE MAN for like 3 years. It kind of glosses over it. For casual fans some kind of Tony Montana "push it to the limits" montage would have been fairly appropriate at the beginning

 

My wife was watching with me and was like "So, Koepka was really good at one time right?" So it kinda comes across but not really

 

Anyway, it's definitely a good watch--But i also wonder if they knew who they were making it for

It felt to me like they tried to make it for everyone & ended up making it for no one. Having said that, I watched all episodes & enjoyed it. I also thought the Koepka episode was the best & surprisingly revealing. Also have a new found appreciation for Poulter & like Finau even more than before watching.

[Anser3]

13 hours ago, m d g said:

Uhh, I copied a quote and don't have time to track down the original. Lighten up, you'll live longer. Uhh...

 

 

I am sorry if this came across poorly.  My concern was that it looked like I made a post of a somewhat sexual nature regarding a player's wife (which I absolutely  did not, and would not, do). I was just confused why the quoted portion was attributed to me when I didn't make the comment.

Edited February 21, 2023 by Anser3

[MtlJeff]

26 minutes ago, jonsnow said:

It felt to me like they tried to make it for everyone & ended up making it for no one. Having said that, I watched all episodes & enjoyed it. I also thought the Koepka episode was the best & surprisingly revealing. Also have a new found appreciation for Poulter & like Finau even more than before watching.

 

I am not sure if it's true, but i am sure many viewers will leave the Koepka episode wondering if he left the tour partly because he believed he wasn't good enough to be the guy anymore

 

I know there's all kinds of stuff they can do with creative editing and reality TV stuff--But man he really came off as like, sad at not being able to do what he used to in that show. You don't usually see that kind of , honesty, i guess is the word from guys who have played at that high a level

 

Edited February 21, 2023 by MtlJeff

[MK7Golf21]

11 minutes ago, MtlJeff said:

 

I am not sure if it's true, but i am sure many viewers will leave the Koepka episode wondering if he left the tour partly because he believed he wasn't good enough to be the guy anymore

 

I know there's all kinds of stuff they can do with creative editing and reality TV stuff--But man he really came off as like, sad at not being able to do what he used to in that show. You don't usually see that kind of , honesty, i guess is the word from guys who have played at that high a level

 

 

LIV and the money was probably a huge relief for him in the state he was with his game. No way he would turn that down.

[TLUBulldogGolf]

I like the show but my main complaint is the flow/timeline they present. I understand they want episodes focused on certain players so it's tough but you don't get any sort of sense as to how the season flows, who is on the rise, etc. It just feels a little disjointed when you know the order these events happened in. 

[TiScape]

1 hour ago, Chrysalis99 said:

To each his own right? I thought it was outstanding but some guys just like Lotta Azz…she’s definitely not that 

For me it’s not necessarily a lotta azz, it’s quality/shape of what’s there. Not a fan of flat… if that’s ur jam, god bless ya. TMI for WRX, but had to clarify. Haha 🍎 

[Barfolomew]

Seen 3 episodes.... learned nothin except how insecure not confident Brooks is, that was surprising thought he would be stubborn confident that was just suckin/injured

 

Problem is we know all the outcomes and story lines as avid golfers, I mean were even on a golf board lol... so while we're interested we know all the LIV stuff through and through.  Show is prob better for sports fans that dont follow golf...

 

What made the F1 show so good as I learned so much and didnt know any results of races etc so made it more exciting 🐔

 

 

[black bnr32]

1 hour ago, TLUBulldogGolf said:

I like the show but my main complaint is the flow/timeline they present. I understand they want episodes focused on certain players so it's tough but you don't get any sort of sense as to how the season flows, who is on the rise, etc. It just feels a little disjointed when you know the order these events happened in. 

Agreed.  If I remember correctly, the first season of Drive to Survive was presented much more in chronological order.

[m d g]

2 hours ago, Anser3 said:

 

 

I am sorry if this came across poorly.  My concern was that it looked like I made a post of a somewhat sexual nature regarding a player's wife (which I absolutely  did not, and would not, do). I was just confused why the quoted portion was attributed to me when I didn't make the comment.

No worries...but I think this is a problem with the forum software. If I copy and paste a quote, it should be attributed to the original poster automatically. This should not be difficult in the modern world...

[Barfolomew]

Brooks had a great line that sums up golf, prob not his but he's livin it...

 

"....when you're playing good feels like you'll never lose it, when playing bad feels like you'll never find it."