Taylormade Stealth 2……it’s happening?????? Black and Red

[getitdaily]

1 minute ago, Brooks_Cupcake said:

But it wasn’t…

But it was and is

[Brooks_Cupcake]

Just now, getitdaily said:

But it was and is

To you…I will take 2-4 yards less carry and hit fairways with the Sim2 

[coloradogolf72]

24 minutes ago, Brooks_Cupcake said:

To you…I will take 2-4 yards less carry and hit fairways with the Sim2 

 

 

If it's between SIM2 and Stealth, the Stealth performed better for a larger audience. There were more people having a harder time getting into the SIM2, mostly because of the removal of the weight track. Stealth was easier, from what I saw.

[BCC1898]

33 minutes ago, Brooks_Cupcake said:

But it wasn’t…

🙄

[getitdaily]

20 minutes ago, Brooks_Cupcake said:

To you…I will take 2-4 yards less carry and hit fairways with the Sim2 

Sim2 was very good too. Slider weight was the difference. I would have played sim2 if TM would have made one with the front weight in the toe.

[radiman]

1 hour ago, Brooks_Cupcake said:

To you…I will take 2-4 yards less carry and hit fairways with the Sim2 

I can't speak for your experience.  But for me, the stealth was amazing.  I found the Sim to be straighter than the 425 LST.  And the Stealth Plus to be even straighter yet.  Whatever fits a guy best I suppose. 

[Brooks_Cupcake]

3 minutes ago, radiman said:

I can't speak for your experience.  But for me, the stealth was amazing.  I found the Sim to be straighter than the 425 LST.  And the Stealth Plus to be even straighter yet.  Whatever fits a guy best I suppose. 

That is why I said “you” 🙂 

 

For some reason I had a 2 way miss with S+, but go back to Sim2 same setup and went away.

[boggyman]

23 hours ago, gbang15 said:

rocketballz 😂

Don’t know if it was or is  17 yards longer 🤔🤣but I put a 17* HL 3wd in play yesterday and it’s standing the test of time. It’s still a beast! 

[phizzy30]

1 hour ago, getitdaily said:

Sim2 was very good too. Slider weight was the difference. I would have played sim2 if TM would have made one with the front weight in the toe.

I had the SIM, SIM 2 and now Stealth Plus.  Out of the 3, I like the Stealth by a mile and it's not even close.  Consistent ball speed and spin, but that one tiny hot spot............If there is one negative about it I would say that it's super low launch and spin for me.  I find that it's critical, no, imperative to get the correct loft and pair it with the right shaft to get the most out of it. 

Edited November 24, 2022 by phizzy30

[getitdaily]

1 minute ago, phizzy30 said:

I had the SIM, SIM 2 and now Stealth Plus.  Out of the 3, I like the Stealth by a mile and it's not even close.  Consistent ball speed and spin, but that one tiny hot spot........

💥💣🚀

[pnwbeamer]

Stealth is an absolute cook missile. And nobody proved that better than Rory 

[phizzy30]

Just now, pnwbeamer said:

Stealth is an absolute cook missile. And nobody proved that better than Rory 

And Scottie S.........

Edited November 24, 2022 by phizzy30

[JZ75]

3 hours ago, Brooks_Cupcake said:

That is why I said “you” 🙂 

 

For some reason I had a 2 way miss with S+, but go back to Sim2 same setup and went away.

Pretty much the same experience I had.  Sim2 Max is not the longest driver for me but it hits the most fairways by far.  

 

I’ve got high hopes for Stealth 2.

 

[NewDecadeMultiCompound]

5 hours ago, phizzy30 said:

I had the SIM, SIM 2 and now Stealth Plus.  Out of the 3, I like the Stealth by a mile and it's not even close.  Consistent ball speed and spin, but that one tiny hot spot............If there is one negative about it I would say that it's super low launch and spin for me.  I find that it's critical, no, imperative to get the correct loft and pair it with the right shaft to get the most out of it. 

You must not have read up much on the poor durability of the stealth.. epoxied face coming off, cracks in face, dents and bubbling in the coating, etc.

[EHolm]

So much fun to read about the so called durability flaws of stealth. Working in the business I havent seen or heard of a single one outside of the odd picture on this forum. So not sure how much of a problem this really is

[getitdaily]

6 hours ago, Glassmen61 said:

You must not have read up much on the poor durability of the stealth.. epoxied face coming off, cracks in face, dents and bubbling in the coating, etc.

The stealth+ has had much fewer warranty claims with TM than the sim and sim2 lines. Much fewer, because of the carbon face...it doesn't crack nearly as often as the thin metal faces. Heard this directly from someone who's in the business.

Edited November 24, 2022 by getitdaily

[phizzy30]

5 hours ago, Glassmen61 said:

You must not have read up much on the poor durability of the stealth.. epoxied face coming off, cracks in face, dents and bubbling in the coating, etc.

I've been keeping up with all the noise from the get go.  In fact, not sure if it's in this thread but I posted that mine has a tiny bubble that's low on the face that hasn't affected performance at all.  I always worry about cracking the face on any driver since I'm a high ball speed player, but so far so good. 

[Valtiel]

8 hours ago, Glassmen61 said:

You must not have read up much on the poor durability of the stealth.. epoxied face coming off, cracks in face, dents and bubbling in the coating, etc.

As mentioned, the failure rate of the Stealth hasn't been outside the norm, so no it does not have poor durability. It had more eyes on it than any modern driver release from a durability standpoint because there was the expectation it WOULD fail, so anything fitting that expectation was going to be amplified on internet forums. We obviously saw some failures, but not statistically significant ones. 

[NewDecadeMultiCompound]

3 minutes ago, Valtiel said:

As mentioned, the failure rate of the Stealth hasn't been outside the norm, so no it does not have poor durability. It had more eyes on it than any modern driver release from a durability standpoint because there was the expectation it WOULD fail, so anything fitting that expectation was going to be amplified on internet forums. We obviously saw some failures, but not statistically significant ones. 

Yes, but it's also been less than a year since its release. Nobody has gamed the stealth for more than one season, so long term durability is still TBD.

 

I'm curious to see if TM will mention durability in their marketing campaign for the stealth 2.

[NewDecadeMultiCompound]

2 hours ago, phizzy30 said:

I've been keeping up with all the noise from the get go.  In fact, not sure if it's in this thread but I posted that mine has a tiny bubble that's low on the face that hasn't affected performance at all.  I always worry about cracking the face on any driver since I'm a high ball speed player, but so far so good. 

Yea I'd say the bubbling is the most common small issue I've read about, but I agree its impact on performance is negligible. Only time will tell if it gets worse

[Red4282]

Im hopeful they make some small changes to the next gen. Wont get my hopes up though. I found its performance was vastly overhyped.

[Bdck]

I went through 3 stealth plus heads from April to July.

 

Durability at higher swing speeds is absolutely an issue with gen 1.

[Valtiel]

4 minutes ago, Glassmen61 said:

Yes, but it's also been less than a year since its release. Nobody has gamed the stealth for more than one season, so long term durability is still TBD.

 

I'm curious to see if TM will mention durability in their marketing campaign for the stealth 2.

Yeah that is a good point, Stealths on the used rack in a few years are going to be interesting, but I think mostly from a cosmetic standpoint. The failures seemed to be related to delamination within the carbon layers and complete separation from the body. Both are epoxy/resin problems that should be pretty straightforward to address, but the bubbling issues on the face might be trickier. 

[bladehunter]

15 hours ago, phizzy30 said:

I had the SIM, SIM 2 and now Stealth Plus.  Out of the 3, I like the Stealth by a mile and it's not even close.  Consistent ball speed and spin, but that one tiny hot spot............If there is one negative about it I would say that it's super low launch and spin for me.  I find that it's critical, no, imperative to get the correct loft and pair it with the right shaft to get the most out of it. 

Very true it’s finicky.  I had a 8 degree plus head I loved.   Loved loved. Face came off. They replaced it.  And the replacement head was so much different.  I couldn’t hit it well to save my life. Same exact shaft.  Two months I tried. Finally sold it here .  And it turned me off the whole line.  I feel like I either had a head marked 8 and actual 9.  Or I got a replacement marked 8 actual 6.5.  That’s how much off it was. 

[radiman]

49 minutes ago, Valtiel said:

As mentioned, the failure rate of the Stealth hasn't been outside the norm, so no it does not have poor durability. It had more eyes on it than any modern driver release from a durability standpoint because there was the expectation it WOULD fail, so anything fitting that expectation was going to be amplified on internet forums. We obviously saw some failures, but not statistically significant ones. 

Exactly my thoughts. And as far as I can tell, TM has been pretty great to work with in terms of warranty. 
 

Maybe they’re tweaking the face design to make it more durable. Maybe they see the failure rate as acceptable. I think when the carbon face fails it seems more dramatic since part of it falls out. It doesn’t dent or crack like thin titanium does. 

[Valtiel]

13 minutes ago, radiman said:

I think when the carbon face fails it seems more dramatic since part of it falls out. It doesn’t dent or crack like thin titanium does. 

Agreed.

[ilikegolf26]

23 minutes ago, bladehunter said:

Very true it’s finicky.  I had a 8 degree plus head I loved.   Loved loved. Face came off. They replaced it.  And the replacement head was so much different.  I couldn’t hit it well to save my life. Same exact shaft.  Two months I tried. Finally sold it here .  And it turned me off the whole line.  I feel like I either had a head marked 8 and actual 9.  Or I got a replacement marked 8 actual 6.5.  That’s how much off it was. 

Same issue here. I had demo’d one for a few weeks and had it set up with weight toward draw and neutral hosel setting. When I bought one about a month later, that same setting was hitting everything low and hooked. I’m now at + setting on the hosel and the weight set toward fade for same ball flight. 

Edited November 24, 2022 by ilikegolf26

[getitdaily]

My personal thoughts are we'll see stealth:stealth2 to he the same as sim:sim2

 

Tiny bit of added forgiveness. 

 

I'm not really sure how much more forgiveness they can get with it. Yes, for you nerds out there, I realize there is higher moi to be achieved. But on course performance is just so stellar with stealth+ that anything straighter is just hard to imagine.

 

This would also jive with typical 2nd cycle TM releases.

Edited November 24, 2022 by getitdaily

[phizzy30]

20 minutes ago, Bdck said:

I went through 3 stealth plus heads from April to July.

 

Durability at higher swing speeds is absolutely an issue with gen 1.

I wouldn't expect a carbon face to last very long with your 130+ss though.  Maybe look into reinforced titanium faces like Krank drivers and the like?

[Mike_Honcho]

1 hour ago, Glassmen61 said:

Yes, but it's also been less than a year since its release. Nobody has gamed the stealth for more than one season, so long term durability is still TBD.

 

I'm curious to see if TM will mention durability in their marketing campaign for the stealth 2.

 

who games a driver more than ONE season around here?