Could Tiger be done?

[PowderedToastMan]

52 minutes ago, Dutch1008 said:

Everybody has vices. Jordan had a gambling problem. These people aren't perfect. 

 

I won't really take Tiger to task on the infidelity. It's a dick thing to do to your wife and kids but he isn't the 1st mega-celeb to fall into that trap. I think a much higher % of people would succumb to the same temptations than they'd willingly admit. 

 

The one thing I would call Tiger out for is choosing to jump out of planes and train with the seals while at the height of his powers. That was just reckless and stupid and I'd argue is the primary driver of nearly every negative outcome since. Who knows why he went down that path, I'm sure it had to do with his Dad. Regardless, I can't think of another generational level athlete that did something similar. Jordan wasn't engaging in UFC fight for kicks. Brady didn't take up bull fighting to fill some hole. Ken Griffey Jr. didn't wrestle alligators to prove his toughness to his father.

 

Its all water under the bridge now but it is pretty disappointing that we didn't get to see Tiger chase down and run past Jack's 18, knockdown 100+ tour wins, etc.     

MJ might not have jumped out of planes and played navy seal, but he did leave the NBA for two years during his prime to play minor league baseball. Not only his prime, but during the Bulls championship dynasty. MJ and Tiger both engaged in activities that were similar to their fathers' passions when their dad's died or were close to death; MJ's dad was obsessed with baseball and Earl was a military man. I will also mention that Jordan was far from a saint. Tiger learned a lot of his womanizing, Vegas-centric habits from MJ. 

 

It just so happens that Brady's dad was a football player and Ken Griffey's dad was of course a baseball player. Following in their father's footsteps is just continuing with what they're already doing. 

Edited August 18, 2022 by PowderedToastMan

[bscinstnct]

44 minutes ago, Dutch1008 said:

Everybody has vices. Jordan had a gambling problem. These people aren't perfect. 

 

I won't really take Tiger to task on the infidelity. It's a dick thing to do to your wife and kids but he isn't the 1st mega-celeb to fall into that trap. I think a much higher % of people would succumb to the same temptations than they'd willingly admit. 

 

The one thing I would call Tiger out for is choosing to jump out of planes and train with the seals while at the height of his powers. That was just reckless and stupid and I'd argue is the primary driver of nearly every negative outcome since. Who knows why he went down that path, I'm sure it had to do with his Dad. Regardless, I can't think of another generational level athlete that did something similar. Jordan wasn't engaging in UFC fight for kicks. Brady didn't take up bull fighting to fill some hole. Ken Griffey Jr. didn't wrestle alligators to prove his toughness to his father.

 

Its all water under the bridge now but it is pretty disappointing that we didn't get to see Tiger chase down and run past Jack's 18, knockdown 100+ tour wins, etc.     

 

MJ needed a break and went to play baseball lol

 

Part of TW doing the SEAL thing was probably escapism. Golf is different in that you don’t have teammates to hang, travel, and practice with. Mix things up a bit.

 

Golfers just solo so TW either alone at the range or under the intense microscope on the course. 
 

Obviously needed to break out and do something totally different like to get his mind off everything 

[Dutch1008]

2 hours ago, PowderedToastMan said:

MJ might not have jumped out of planes and played navy seal, but he did leave the NBA for two years during his prime to play minor league baseball. Not only his prime, but during the Bulls championship dynasty. MJ and Tiger both engaged in activities that were similar to their fathers' passions when their dad's died or were close to death; MJ's dad was obsessed with baseball and Earl was a military man. I will also mention that Jordan was far from a saint. Tiger learned a lot of his womanizing, Vegas-centric habits from MJ. 

Never implied MJ was a saint and I'm just as disappointed that I didn't get to see Jordan run off 8 straight (Maybe more if it wasn't for Jerry Krause), as I am about Tiger missing out on breaking 18. 

[Dr. Block]

6 minutes ago, Dutch1008 said:

Never implied MJ was a saint and I'm just as disappointed that I didn't get to see Jordan run off 8 straight (Maybe more if it wasn't for Jerry Krause), as I am about Tiger missing out on breaking 18. 

Man, everyone loves to unload on poor Jerry Krause. It wasn't his fault he was a walking pant-load with beady eyes. He might as well have been Red Auerbach if you compare him to the John Paxon years. We're lucky Giannis and the other young studs still remember when the Bulls were actually good. 

[Is Golf Fun or Work]

If you knew the hidden truth about MJ and his baseball stint you'd be shocked.  Lots of non public info on MJ and the Bulls org from back in his day.  I grew up in Chicago and know a few people close to that org, as well as someone who's brother was on MJ's baseball team

[Dr. Block]

2 hours ago, bscinstnct said:

 

MJ needed a break and went to play baseball lol

 

Part of TW doing the SEAL thing was probably escapism. Golf is different in that you don’t have teammates to hang, travel, and practice with. Mix things up a bit.

 

Golfers just solo so TW either alone at the range or under the intense microscope on the course. 
 

Obviously needed to break out and do something totally different like to get his mind off everything 

Well said. When you grind like they do to climb to the top, sometimes you need a change or a different challenge...if only for a bit.

 

Also, is that Steve Martin in your profile pic? I haven't been around here for awhile, but you are still the king, lol

Edited August 18, 2022 by Dr. Block

[Dutch1008]

2 hours ago, bscinstnct said:

Golfers just solo so TW either alone at the range or under the intense microscope on the course. 
 

Obviously needed to break out and do something totally different like to get his mind off everything 

Of course he needed a break. We all do on occasion. Spearfishing was a good decision, trying to be G.I. Joe wasn't. 

[betarhoalphadelta]

15 minutes ago, Is Golf Fun or Work said:

If you knew the hidden truth about MJ and his baseball stint you'd be shocked.  Lots of non public info on MJ and the Bulls org from back in his day.  I grew up in Chicago and know a few people close to that org, as well as someone who's brother was on MJ's baseball team

 

A college buddy had a [conspiracy] theory that it was due to Jordan's gambling. That the NBA knew whatever he had done would damage the sport itself if anything became public because he was the biggest star in the sport on a team that had just won three in a row. So they told him to "retire" and step away for a while, and that given some time he could make it back. 

 

It was one of those things that sure sounded plausible, but obviously he had no proof for any of this, so I don't know if it's even remotely close to the real "hidden truth". 

[bscinstnct]

54 minutes ago, Dr. Block said:

Well said. When you grind like they do to climb to the top, sometimes you need a change or a different challenge...if only for a bit.

 

Also, is that Steve Martin in your profile pic? I haven't been around here for awhile, but you are still the king, lol

 

Ya, is karate from The Jerk! 
 

🤣

 

 

 

[wildcatden]

2 hours ago, Is Golf Fun or Work said:

If you knew the hidden truth about MJ and his baseball stint you'd be shocked.  Lots of non public info on MJ and the Bulls org from back in his day.  I grew up in Chicago and know a few people close to that org, as well as someone who's brother was on MJ's baseball team

well, we’re waiting!!

 

 

[kmbean]

Tiger’s eyes are permanently bloodshot.  

[bscinstnct]

Tiger? He got a lot of sleep to catch up on.

 

TW slept a total of 26 hours between 1999-2021 

 

For one stretch between 2004-2006, he only slept 4 hours total. He just went from winning golf tournaments straight to throwing flash-bang grenades to “pancakes” for like 7 weeks straight without sleeping.
Then he only slept for 6 minutes and that was while waiting for Ben Crane to line up and hit a 3 footer  🤣

 

Now, he finally look like he sleep and be lazy. Like give up on golf and relax a little. 

Edited August 21, 2022 by bscinstnct

[farmer]

I know an actual no-kidding SpecOps veteran.  Spent years in WTF situations.  To imply that Tiger did any of the brutal work it takes to be one of these guys is insulting to them.  The SEAL's let him come play because of his celebrity status, not because he had in any measure earned his place.  He had fun, got out of his head for a while, but that's as far as that scenario went.

[NMBob]

On 8/18/2022 at 6:45 PM, wildcatden said:

well, we’re waiting!!

 

 

 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/131997-mjs-1st-retirement-was-it-a-secret-suspension

[kmbean]

I was under the impression it was Tiger who fired the kill shots on Osama Bin Laden.

[tiderider]

On 8/18/2022 at 4:46 PM, Dutch1008 said:

Never implied MJ was a saint and I'm just as disappointed that I didn't get to see Jordan run off 8 straight (Maybe more if it wasn't for Jerry Krause), as I am about Tiger missing out on breaking 18. 

not saying it would've happened (i repeat), but hakeem was peaking and vernon maxwell was athletic enough to be a pain in jordan's side ... houston had a good team that year ... 

Edited August 21, 2022 by tiderider

[Retrop1]

I have personally had multiple foot and ankle issues and had surgery 6 times, 3 on each foot. While I am by no means an expert, I can honestly say the last surgery I had took me more than 2 full years to recover and then had to go back in for a minor procedure to have some scar tissue removed. The foot and ankle have so many bones when multiple fractures are involved you can have weird stuff happen with scar tissue and even bone bridges form if fractures are healing near one another. Both of things are minor to fix, but are painful, limiting, and don't always show clearly on a standard X-ray. The extent of his injuries could easily put him to early-mid '23 before he is fully recovered. The fact that he played major championship golf this year and made 2 cuts, is a miracle. I would not count him out to win again at all, but it may be late 40's wins or even early 50's

[Cali_Stinger77]

It'll all depend on Tiger's health going forward. I He's done as a regular contender but I still think he can have a week where he catches lightning in a bottle. 

[bscinstnct]

 

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[SurfDuffer]

Saw a brief clip of him getting off a plane last week and walking.  He didn't look like someone who will be competing at the highest levels of golf.  

[mark m]

He might be done in regards to being competitive in majors. But he can try to stay in the “game” with his top golf style venture, and as a consigliere to the tour. And it will likely be a full time job keeping The Chucker in line as he moves into his rebellious teen age years. Many kids of celebs are a train wreck! And looking out for himself as well. He has his hands full.

[Dpavs]

Sadly even if he does continue to play over the next several years, I really do think that the case is we will be seeing -

 

Edited September 1, 2022 by Dpavs

[Dr. Block]

On 8/21/2022 at 9:22 AM, Retrop1 said:

I have personally had multiple foot and ankle issues and had surgery 6 times, 3 on each foot. While I am by no means an expert, I can honestly say the last surgery I had took me more than 2 full years to recover and then had to go back in for a minor procedure to have some scar tissue removed. The foot and ankle have so many bones when multiple fractures are involved you can have weird stuff happen with scar tissue and even bone bridges form if fractures are healing near one another. Both of things are minor to fix, but are painful, limiting, and don't always show clearly on a standard X-ray. The extent of his injuries could easily put him to early-mid '23 before he is fully recovered. The fact that he played major championship golf this year and made 2 cuts, is a miracle. I would not count him out to win again at all, but it may be late 40's wins or even early 50's

One things for sure, nobody will work harder to get that health back than Tiger. 

[Ghost of Snead]

Is he done ? Nah ... not until #83  is in the books. 

[grm24]

 

[bscinstnct]

15 hours ago, grm24 said:

 

 

Tigerrrrr!

 

Hey, that’s smooth as good scotch ; )

[Dr. Block]

If Tiger's legs fail to recover to a point that can carry him the distance in a tournament, he could hop in a golf cart and single handedly blast the Champions Tour up near the Karman line. I'm not saying he should, or he will, but I guiltily hope it happens, because I would enjoy watching it very much. 

Edited September 14, 2022 by Dr. Block

[WhostherealSlimShady]

Tiger is done. 

[bscinstnct]

13 hours ago, WhostherealSlimShady said:

Tiger is done. 

You better tell him

 

🤣