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  • BrunzyBrunzy  130WRX Points: 5Members Posts: 130 Bunkers
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    Is hot melting that effective on a newer driver? I am not sure whether it's worth doing for my g400
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  • wiess14wiess14 Sioux Falls, SD 56WRX Points: 53Handicap: 3Members Posts: 56 Bunkers
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    Kaexo wrote:

    zeke66 wrote:

    Kaexo wrote:

    zeke66 wrote:

    Kaexo wrote:


    Not saying it's not legit but I've not seen 174 ball speed carry 330 to 360 total without other factors turned on. Was the launch monitor set downwind or high altitude?




    It was set at 0 for altitude, but I have no idea about downwind. It was at a store in Phoenix which is at what 1500-2000 feet? Because of that I checked the altitude to see if they adjusted for Phoenix, but it said elevation: 0. Good call tho. I was already thinking about that. Either way... the comparison was to judge mine verses M3.. all other factors constant.




    Oh yeah I agree. Wasn't trying to discredit anything but was just curious. I guess its maybe possible with that launch and low spin on a knuckler but i typically see 6-10 yards less than that on trackman with similar launch conditons. 14.2 launch is great with the SZ though. I could never get it above 12 even with the weight back.



    Rogue SZ was good but I just never got along with it truthfully. Didn't enjoy the feel or sound that much. Ball speed and spin was on point though. Even gamed it for a few rounds.



    Our swing speeds are similar and I absolutely love the G400 Max paired with a Dual Core Kuro Kage 70TX or V3 Tensei Pro Orange 70TX. M3 is a great driver but like you I had high hopes and it didn't perform like I had expected.



    G400 Max followed by Rogue SZ wins hands down for me.




    No worries. I wasn’t being defensive. I actually appreciated the thought.



    How’s the launch and spin with g400 max? The pings are awesome. Did you tip either of those shafts ?




    .5", spins always average between 2100-2300 and my launch is between 13.5-14 and as high as 15 with 2000 spin which is great. Ball speeds were also maybe 1mph on average better than the SZ and M3.



    Just seen **** rated the LST most wanted. Their testing is always weird to me. Yards off center must be the deciding factor because the 400 max outperformed the SZ and M3 in every other category but was ranked slightly lower. Which yards off center isn't the drivers fault so who knows.




    Agree with your thought on the **** testing results for the G400 Max. Unbiased is their deal and no reason to doubt that but data can be arranged for certain outcomes. Yards offline is a crap stat and especially average yards. Tells me nothing about the forgiveness and if people hit more fairways with one club vs. another.



    My personal experience hitting each of these heads is bad swings with the Max were very, very playable in a nice little grouping. Where the M3 and Rogue would move the golf ball both directions aggressively. It was crazy to feel the impact the high MOI had on gear effect and see it in the grouping and ball flights. LST is a beast of a driver too but the experience I had with the Max being SO forgiving and also great distance was mind blowing.
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  • LobberLobber  2515WRX Points: 200Members Posts: 2,515 Titanium Tees
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    Mizuno ST 180. Low spin monster. Forgiving too
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  • Albatross_seekerAlbatross_seeker Old F*rt  14WRX Points: 5Handicap: 6.8Members Posts: 14 Bunkers
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    This has been a great year for the big stick, but the 917D3 is the first Titleist driver that I've "loved" in 15 years v. the competition. See below I still game a SLDR 430 Japan model.



    The D3 with Fuji 74 Tour Spec X-flex - 1900 rpm and 13° launch, almost no side spin, and I'm the spin monster. Waiting for the 919, honestly. Also yet to hit any driver with the Tensei Orange and I do love that white.



    Rogue, even sub-zero, I cannot get the feel for the head, I cannot look at M3 M4 or other two-tone.



    Good lord, have I hit a ton of drivers and shafts this year. PXG gets a shout out for shaft election, not at all the product, lol.



    We all know we must respect the shaft and in the end that's where it lies for each of us - love the look, respect the shaft.
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    Titleist TS3 9.5° - 45" TENSEI Orange Tour S 60
    Titleist TS313° - TENSEI Orange Tour S 70
    TM 24° M1 Tour AD 85
    TM P750 Tour Proto TT S300
    3-9, PW all +¾" , all 2° up
    TM MG Wedges +¾" , 2° up, Nippon 105 modus S
    52° SB-09
    TM HiToe +¾" , 2° up, Nippon 105 modus S
    58°

    All play clubs UTX Grips
    Irons TM 360 Gray

    Titleist Scotty Cameron GoLo Select
    SC Pistolini grips

    Ball: TM TP 5x or AVX in the cold
  • JDollplaysgolfJDollplaysgolf  20WRX Points: 16Handicap: 1.9Members Posts: 20 Bunkers
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    G400 LST is not the longest but 100% the most accurate
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    G400 LST Hzrdus Black 6.5
    F8+ Tour Green 75 TX
    '19 P790 UDI KBS Tour 100
    iBlade 3-P X100
    SM7 52* 58* X100
    Nike Oven B2-01
  • mortimermortimer  345WRX Points: 65Handicap: 2Members Posts: 345 Greens
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    Standard Epic beat Rogue, G400 and M3
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    Callaway Epic Flash 9 HZRDUS Smoke
    Titleist 917F2 15 EvenFlow Blue 75
    Titleist 818H1 19 Rogue Max 85
    Titleist AP3 4i Oban CT 115
    Mizuno MP25 5-6i / MP5 7-PW KBS Tour
    Cleveland 588RTX2.0 Precision Forged 52 & 56 
    Vokey SM7 60 M Grind
    Scotty Cameron Newport 2 / Toulon Portland
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  • BrunzyBrunzy  130WRX Points: 5Members Posts: 130 Bunkers
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    I tried the g400lst and it was all over the place. When I got fitted, the rogue Subzero was my best fit...I put a T1100 on it and I've never had a single shot that wasn't less than 300yds and more than 5yds off of dead center of the fareway....





    Now if only I could putt haha
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  • John - MemphisJohn - Memphis  53WRX Points: 50Members Posts: 53 Bunkers
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    Brunzy wrote:


    I tried the g400lst and it was all over the place. When I got fitted, the rogue Subzero was my best fit...I put a T1100 on it and I've never had a single shot that wasn't less than 300yds and more than 5yds off of dead center of the fareway....





    Now if only I could putt haha




    If you’ve never had a drive that wasn’t less than 300 yds, you’ve had no drives over 300 yds
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  • matchavezmatchavez Aotearoa New Zealand 4286WRX Points: 375Unregistered Posts: 4,286 Titanium Tees
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    I like how Vertical Groove is beating PXG.
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    14 Pings. Blueprints are incredibly good. Fetch is the most underrated putter on the market. Don't @ me.

  • AubFanAubFan  44WRX Points: 41Handicap: 7Members Posts: 44 Bunkers
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    What’s the difference in head weight for the non-sz rogue compared to a G400 max?
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  • cdonnellycdonnelly  15WRX Points: 0Handicap: 4Members Posts: 15
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    Is the G400 LST really that hot? Playing the 2016 m2 with a graphite design adi 6x tipped an inch and have loved it. Looking for something new and leaning towards a ping.
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  • SwingManSwingMan SwingMan  6800WRX Points: 67Handicap: 9.8Members Posts: 6,800 Titanium Tees
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    I would think it's the Ping G400 Series, Callaway Rogue Series, and the TM M3/4 Series (whichever is forgiving). Which particular driver in a series depends on your fitting.
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    "My swing is so bad, I look like a caveman killing his lunch" - Lee Trevino

    Bag: Ping G400 Max/TPT Golf Series 17 ● Exotics EX10 Beta 4, 5 wd ● PXG 0317 4H/Tensei CK Pro Red 70 ● Mizuno 919F 5-GW/Accra i80 ● Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth 56ES, 60SS ●Evnroll ER8
  • Que6dogQue6dog  5WRX Points: 0Members Posts: 5
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    Too me it’s the PXG 0811X. I know it expensive but it’s the most forgiving one out there...
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  • Tyler KTyler K  83WRX Points: 63Members Posts: 83 Fairways
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    Jut wrote:

    bcgolfer01 wrote:

    Jut wrote:


    Ping G400 LST - for me, the best combination of spin, flight, distance, forgiveness, and feel.




    Ive got their new "tour" shaft in the LST (regular flex) and it has been great so far



    any other "smooth swingers" (regular flex guys lol) tried any other shafts in it?




    I fitted into a stiff with the tour shaft (swing it around 97-100), but have a smooth swing / transition. I tried the Alta, HZRDUS Yellow, and X-Torsion. The only thing that came close to matching the tour shaft was the X-Torsion, but even it didn't give me the numbers that the Ping Tour shaft did.




    I had better numbers with the Tour 80 X from my G30. No XS were available in the tour shaft where I tested. Better numbers than HZRDUS. Is the old tour shaft from the G30 the same as the new separate from the 5 g weight difference?
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    Ping G30 9* Tour 80X
    Ping G Stretch Tour 80X
    Ping i500 3 DG 120 X100
    Ping i210 4-U DG 120 X100
    Glide 2.0 Stealth 54* SS DG S400
    Glide 2.0 Stealth 58* ES DG S400
    Ping Anser TR 1966 / Odyssey White Hot #2
  • mx-20mx-20  574WRX Points: 122Members Posts: 574 Golden Tee
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    After playing the G400 Max for several rounds, I have no desire to even pick up another driver. I can’t imagine something being better for me. The forgiveness and length are a killer combination. My playing partners are shocked at my driver play now due to its consistency. I’m almost shocked if I don’t hit a fairway or at least stay playable. I’m sold.
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    Titleist TS2 9.5° HZRDUS Smoke Black 60 S
    Titleist TS2 15° HZRDUS Smoke Black 70 S
    Titleist TS2 19° HZRDUS Smoke Black 80 S
    Titleist TS2 23° HZRDUS Smoke Black 80 S
    Taylormade 2019 P790 KBS Tour FLT S
    Cleveland RTX4 Raw 54° DG105 S300
    Titleist Vokey SM7 Raw 58° DG115 S300
    Titleist Scotty Cameron Select Fastback 34"
  • dmeeksDCdmeeksDC  2733WRX Points: 370Handicap: 8ClubWRX Posts: 2,733 ClubWRX
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    I like the Rogue and I like the MAX and I love the standard G400 with Ping Tour 65 S. The 445 cc head is really well done. Sounds good, feels good. Had this club and the Rogue for a bit but as soon as I took the Ping on the course, I came home and sold the Rogue.



    I use those nest plastic tees that tee the ball at the exact same height every time. Picked a length to get high center contact, about flat to 2 degrees plus on A of A and the ball leaves quickly. Definitely my favorite driver in quite some time.
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    Ping G400 9 degrees, Ping Tour stiff shaft, 65 grams
    Callaway XHot2 Pro 5 wood, 17 degrees, Aldila Tour Blue stiff shaft
    Titleist 915F fairway, 21 degrees, Diamana Blue 70 stiff
    Srixon 565 4 iron, Nippon 980GH stiff shaft
    Adams CMB irons, 5-PW, KBS C Taper regular shafts (110g)
    Titleist Vokey SM7 50 degree, F grind, Dynamic Gold S200 shaft
    Callaway Mack Daddy 2 54-degree wedge, S grind, DG wedge shaft
    Ben Hogan TK wedge, 59 degree, KBS black wedge shaft
    TaylorMade TP Chaska putter, sliver, 34 inches
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  • GlandouxGlandoux  8WRX Points: 0Members Posts: 8
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    None of the new offerings were better than my cobra F6+ for me
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  • BlueFab5BlueFab5  93WRX Points: 58Members Posts: 93 Fairways
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    Mizuno St180 💪
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  • joliver233joliver233  354WRX Points: 53Members Posts: 354 Greens
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    This year I did the most extensive testing of shafts and different drivers than I ever had. Ultimately it came down to the G400 LST with the tour 65 shaft or the M3 with a Tensei Pro White. After multiple days of testing each combo, I went with the M3. The adjustability let me dial in launch, and spin and get both lower than the LST. The dispersion was also tighter while distance was relatively comparable. The biggest difference though was in my misses. I don't think it really has anything to do with twist face or anything, but just where I tend to miss on the face. The ping spun considerably more and had more side spin as well, thus leading to shorter misses that were farther from the target line. With the M3 the misses were much more playable and longer.
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    WITB:

    D: 9* G400 LST w/Oban Kiyoshi Purple 05/X
    3W: 14.5* Cobra F8+ w/Even Flow Blue X
    Irons: 716 AP2 3-PW w/KBS C-Taper S+
    Wedges: 50* SM6; 54* S-Grind, 58* X-Grind MD4 w/DG s400
    Putter: Spider Tour Black
    Ball: Srixon Z-Star XV
  • StanksStanks Everything I post is confrontational  1714WRX Points: 240Handicap: ?Members Posts: 1,714 Platinum Tees
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    I gave the Rogue SZ with Even Flow Blue 75 Gram in there X-Stiff version (can't remember the number...7.0?) and couldn't sweet spot it for the life of me but, the 2 or 3 that did hit right on the screws just flew and flew and flew. AMazing numbers. Just not my consistent batch.



    I still have my driver in sig (M3 10.5 set to 8.5 in HZRDs black on X-Stiff again, can't recall number) and it's seemingly fine.



    I'm always tinkering though. I wouldn't mind taking some cuts with the G400 MAX, LST, or regular as I've great things.



    What a time we live in. Anyone can hit 300.
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  • matchavezmatchavez Aotearoa New Zealand 4286WRX Points: 375Unregistered Posts: 4,286 Titanium Tees
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    Stanks wrote:


    I gave the Rogue SZ with Even Flow Blue 75 Gram in there X-Stiff version (can't remember the number...7.0?) and couldn't sweet spot it for the life of me but, the 2 or 3 that did hit right on the screws just flew and flew and flew. AMazing numbers. Just not my consistent batch.



    I still have my driver in sig (M3 10.5 set to 8.5 in HZRDs black on X-Stiff again, can't recall number) and it's seemingly fine.



    I'm always tinkering though. I wouldn't mind taking some cuts with the G400 MAX, LST, or regular as I've great things.



    What a time we live in. Anyone can hit 300.




    Anyone on GolfWRX...



    I like my G400LST a lot... but I will fight you over the TiNi x60. They sing a sweet song in combination!
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    14 Pings. Blueprints are incredibly good. Fetch is the most underrated putter on the market. Don't @ me.

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  • kongokongo Gorilla Golfer  115WRX Points: 72Handicap: 11.5Members Posts: 115 Fairways
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    I'm getting fitted for driver soon. I've tried a few, and Rogue felt the best so far.... need to confirm with numbers though.
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    (Driver) Ping G30
    (Hybrids): Mizuno JPX EZ #2, Ping G #3, Ping G #4
    (Irons): Mizuno MP-57
    (Wedges): Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth 50, 54, 58
    (Putter): Nike Method Origin B1-01
  • clouse8clouse8  88WRX Points: 23Handicap: 5Members Posts: 88 Fairways
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    Love the g400
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  • osubuckeyes691osubuckeyes691 Columbus, OH 1154WRX Points: 349Handicap: 1.9Members Posts: 1,154 Platinum Tees
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    Well I've been playing the Rogue SZ with T1100 65 6.5 and last night I decided to try the G400 max. Pulled the shaft. Added a ping adapter and the head should be arriving today. I'll be headed to a 2 man tourney in Florida having never played my driver hahahaha so hopefully it works out image/rofl.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':rofl:' />
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    Callaway Epic Flash SZ Double Diamond - Fujikura Ventus Black 6x
    Taylormade 2016 M2 Deep Face 14* - Tensei Blue 90TX
    Ping G410 Hybrid - Aldila Tour Green ATX 105TX
    Srixon 745 4-PW - KBS C Taper 130x softstepped 1x
    Vokey 50* F Grind - KBS C Taper 130
    Vokey Wedgeworks 54V grind - KBS C Taper 130
    Ping Glide 3.0 60 Eye2 - DG120 S300
    Yes! Sally 12 w/ Evnroll Gravity Grip
  • I.B. Golfin'I.B. Golfin'  128WRX Points: 50Handicap: 6.9Members Posts: 128 Fairways
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    I've been using a 2017 M2 (D-Type), have hit it well but lately have been fighting TOO much left. Demo'd an M4 (non D-Type) and crushed just about every ball with a weak fade, actually was hitting both left and right shots with it under control, And even better, since it was a demo driver I purposely whacked balls all around the clubface, thinned some, toe'd some, heel'd some. Honestly, I could feel the weak hits but the ball never really reacted poorly ot them, many would have been easily playable without much penalty.



    Soo.. ordered a new M4 on eBay for $300, and sold my M2 on eBay for $180. Essentially got the M4 for $120.
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  • I.B. Golfin'I.B. Golfin'  128WRX Points: 50Handicap: 6.9Members Posts: 128 Fairways
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    mx-20 wrote:


    After playing the G400 Max for several rounds, I have no desire to even pick up another driver. I can't imagine something being better for me. The forgiveness and length are a killer combination. My playing partners are shocked at my driver play now due to its consistency. I'm almost shocked if I don't hit a fairway or at least stay playable. I'm sold.




    That's how my buddy is but with the new M3. He's been playing the original M1 and still fought a slice and all, I'd give his FW% then around.. 30%. He picked up the newest M3 a few weeks back, and out of the box, no adjustments, he's added easily 15-20yds and is only missing 1-3 FW's a round. A pretty shocking testament to TM, and the resilency of new equipment altogether..
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  • WidespreadPanicWidespreadPanic Wizard in the Corner  4910WRX Points: 218Handicap: 0.4Members Posts: 4,910 Titanium Tees
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    Rogue SZ: Despite not liking how it looks, it works.

    M3: Best of the bunch. Twistface actually kind of works. Longest of the new model.

    G400 LST: Love the head size/shape. Weirdness of the crown has grown on me. Super forgiving.
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    Taylormade M2 ('17) 10.5*
    Cobra F7 15.5*
    Taylormade M1 ('17) 19*
    Mizuno MP18 Fli Hi 4i
    Mizuno MP18 SC 5-PW
    Cleveland RTX 588 2.0 52**, 56**, 60**
    Taylormade TP Red Ardmore 3
    Taylormade TPx
  • WidespreadPanicWidespreadPanic Wizard in the Corner  4910WRX Points: 218Handicap: 0.4Members Posts: 4,910 Titanium Tees
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    Brunzy wrote:


    When I got fitted, the rogue Subzero was my best fit...I put a T1100 on it and I've never had a single shot that wasn't less than 300yds and more than 5yds off of dead center of the fareway....


    Post of the year contender.
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    Taylormade M2 ('17) 10.5*
    Cobra F7 15.5*
    Taylormade M1 ('17) 19*
    Mizuno MP18 Fli Hi 4i
    Mizuno MP18 SC 5-PW
    Cleveland RTX 588 2.0 52**, 56**, 60**
    Taylormade TP Red Ardmore 3
    Taylormade TPx
  • JDMRN81JDMRN81 PA 603WRX Points: 131Handicap: 12.7Members Posts: 603 Golden Tee
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    I haven't tried any new drivers this year because I love my G400 LST......long and very forgiving. I had an EPIC SZ before the G400 LST and it's a very close second in performance. I'll try the G400 MAX at some point to see what the hype is about.
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    PXG 0811xf Gen 2 9* AD VR-6x
    PXG 0341x Gen 3 16* AD VR-7x
    Ping i210 4-UW Modus 105s
    Ping Glide 2.0 54/58 Modus 105s
    Evnroll ER2 Black 34"
    Callaway Chrome Soft Truvis Stars and Stripes
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  • jjones922jjones922  109WRX Points: 18Handicap: 14Members Posts: 109 Fairways
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    So what’s the distance loss from the g400 lst vs the max?
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