Driver vs Driver 2

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  • erock9174erock9174 North Canton, OHMembers Posts: 3,928 ✭✭
    edited Oct 11, 2018 #122
    Nard_S wrote:


    Kind of ironic that CEO is obsessed with visible tech when the hottest trend in irons is zero visible tech.




    Would have been funny to see one of the contestants just enter a complete basic driver head and spin it as hollow body technology.



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  • SubaruWRXSubaruWRX Members Posts: 3,280 ✭✭
    erock9174 wrote:

    Nard_S wrote:


    Kind of ironic that CEO is obsessed with visible tech when the hottest trend in irons is zero visible tech.




    Would have been funny to see one of the contestants just enter a complete basic driver head and spin it as hollow body technology.


    How about a 905R without the bore through shaft. Just a regular hosel? Brand it with the W/S logo and let them rip it apart for lack of tech?
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  • jojjoj Members Posts: 132 ✭✭
    Tim Clarke makes me understand why Wilson is Wilson.
  • Holy MosesHoly Moses Members Posts: 10,444 ✭✭
    joj wrote:


    Tim Clarke makes me understand why Wilson is Wilson.




    Good point. I like the DVD concept, but beyond that what is he bringing to the table?
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  • cmatthews77cmatthews77 Members Posts: 800 ✭✭


    I have 2 main problems with the show:



    1) The designers aren't taken seriously. They are treated as being "lucky to be here". If you truly appreciate these designers and think they'll produce a viable product, treat them like professionals and not contest winners.



    2) Along those lines, the R&D process is what's actually interesting about the show. Why not take 4 - 6 designs with the most promise - combination of innovation, performance, marketability - and let them all go all the way through the process, ending with 4 drivers. Maybe put an in-house Wilson design in the mix as a benchmark. One of them will rise above the rest and be the winner. But by only actually comparing 2 "finished" drivers in a finale, Wilson is doing themselves a disservice.




    I’ve thought the EXACT SAME THING. The show seems like a cheesy reality show and isn’t interesting or compelling. It would be much better if they’d pick 2-3 designers on the first show and then spend the rest of the time showing those guys working with the Wilson team in the design, R&D and testing process.
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  • RichieHuntRichieHunt Members Posts: 3,599 ✭✭
    The contestants that didn't team up really screwed the pooch. Maybe they don't deal in a corporate environment as much as I have in my life, but that was a clear signal that if you didn't team up you were gone. Whether you like it or not, that was clear corporate speak and that's what exactly happened.



    I do agree with the maker with the stiffening ring...any of the changes they requested he could have done himself. He just needed a little direction. But they had their mind made up...either team up or go home.

















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  • the bishopthe bishop Members Posts: 3,198 ✭✭
    RichieHunt wrote:


    The contestants that didn't team up really screwed the pooch. Maybe they don't deal in a corporate environment as much as I have in my life, but that was a clear signal that if you didn't team up you were gone. Whether you like it or not, that was clear corporate speak and that's what exactly happened.



    I do agree with the maker with the stiffening ring...any of the changes they requested he could have done himself. He just needed a little direction. But they had their mind made up...either team up or go home.



    RH


    Yeah they didn't do the math right. Even if they had all agreed to team up a person's chances of staying on the show increased substantially over going it alone.
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    RichieHunt wrote:


    The contestants that didn't team up really screwed the pooch. Maybe they don't deal in a corporate environment as much as I have in my life, but that was a clear signal that if you didn't team up you were gone. Whether you like it or not, that was clear corporate speak and that's what exactly happened.



    I do agree with the maker with the stiffening ring...any of the changes they requested he could have done himself. He just needed a little direction. But they had their mind made up...either team up or go home.

















    RH




    Absolutely correct. It was basically a test of who can work with people and who would dig in on their ideas. If a designer was not open to teaming up, the judges took it as a bad sign. May or may not be valid, but the teaming up was not really a suggestion, it was a condition of staying in the game.
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  • the bishopthe bishop Members Posts: 3,198 ✭✭
    03trdblack wrote:

    mukster wrote:


    My comments:



    4) I can see all the Wilson PGA staff players desperately trying to negotiate a new club deal where they don't have to play Wilson drivers image/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />




    There's not a single staffer that's required to play a Wilson driver and none of them do with the exception of the D300 played by Troy Merritt. Streelman played the Triton for maybe one event just to say he did but that's about it.


    I saw Streelman play the Triton at the Farmer's Insurance Open after they released that club. Honestly in person as a spectator that club didn't sound that bad. But I've never hit one and I know the sound when you hit is different than the sound when you watch someone hit. Anyway I think he also had the F5 in play for a short while after those were released a couple of years ago. Brendan Steele also had their new - not yet released - D7 3W in play at the Safeway.
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  • bogeyprobogeypro The Original Bogeypro ClubWRX Posts: 3,171 ClubWRX
    just watched the second episode.... Lots of fluff and repeating of information. It took almost 30 minutes before we got to the wilson labs scene. We then rehashed alot of info about each designer again. All together, I think there was only about 15 minutes of actual meat in this episode (feedback from the consultants).



    Why does Tim Swiss (widow maker designer) get so much air time? He gets more face time than any other contestant and its not even close.



    final thought - wilson seems to focus too much on the visual tech. It's as if they want to make a driver that looks like its good instead of making one that is actually good. Personally, I think the golfwrx community prefers the sleeper and not the gawdy in your face tech designs.
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  • zebra2955zebra2955 Posts: 557 ✭✭
    BigHook25 wrote:

    sdandrea wrote:


    Given the fact that the first show produced a total flop, why on earth would it get another go? I didn't make it through an entire episode of the first one unless I needed a nap. Ugh....




    The golf channel has to fill space during what is essentially the off-season for golf.




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  • zebra2955zebra2955 Posts: 557 ✭✭
    Does anyone actually watch this show thinking they are really looking to buy whatever driver that wins ?
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  • bogeyprobogeypro The Original Bogeypro ClubWRX Posts: 3,171 ClubWRX
    zebra2955 wrote:


    Does anyone actually watch this show thinking they are really looking to buy whatever driver that wins ?




    😂 **** no. No offense, but Wilson isn’t on my radar for purchases.
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  • Holy MosesHoly Moses Members Posts: 10,444 ✭✭
    zebra2955 wrote:


    Does anyone actually watch this show thinking they are really looking to buy whatever driver that wins ?




    Uh yeah, that’s kinda how TV marketing works
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  • JDaxJDax Posts: 84
    Which one do y’all think is the favorite to win?

    Widow Maker was my pick, but it was out quick...
  • Nixhex524Nixhex524 ClubWRX Posts: 3,956 ClubWRX
    bogeypro wrote:

    zebra2955 wrote:


    Does anyone actually watch this show thinking they are really looking to buy whatever driver that wins ?




    &#55357;&#56834; **** no. No offense, but Wilson isn't on my radar for purchases.




    I would give Wilson a chance if they built something less gaudy and awful sounding. Srixon was never really on a lot of people's radars but they started making some great performing and looking gear. Now they are hanging with the big boys, especially on the new 785 driver release. I honestly think that is one of the best looking drivers of recent designs and it does perform. It's fairly simple and doesn't have a lot of "flare", so it can be done. Wilson, for some reason, thinks they need to take a page from the "Al Czervik" club playbook. Clark does make Wilson look bad on this one IMO. Does he even play golf?
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  • kdog25kdog25 Members Posts: 1,556 ✭✭
    GWfool wrote:

    rymail00 wrote:

    Nixhex524 wrote:

    BigHook25 wrote:

    sdandrea wrote:


    Given the fact that the first show produced a total flop, why on earth would it get another go? I didn't make it through an entire episode of the first one unless I needed a nap. Ugh....




    The golf channel has to fill space during what is essentially the off-season for golf.




    I'd rather bring Big Break back.... I do like Shiels on TV... he seems natural. May wind up with his own spot...






    +10000

    Big Break was by far the best show they've had. Heck even a couple of them actually made a splash on the PGA tour, Tommy 2 Gloves, and Tony Finau.




    Don't forget Wesley Bryant




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  • Walkerdb7Walkerdb7 Posts: 391
    edited Oct 15, 2018 #139
    Hi All, My name is Jon and I work for EOS 3D printing. My company supported this week's episode of the show. Ti 3D printing was used to build the prototypes used for show.



    I am happy to answer any questions anyone has!



    Here's an article about the upcoming episdoe:



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  • From_Parts_UnknownFrom_Parts_Unknown Members Posts: 1,797 ✭✭
    Man, I'm glad the engineers at Ping didn't submit the G400 Max or the engineers at Titleist didn't submit the new TS drivers. They wouldn't have made it past the first episode. They should rename the show Gimmick Versus Gimmick.
  • lspky_muskielspky_muskie Posts: 890 ✭✭
    edited Oct 15, 2018 #141
    The G400 series is loaded with gimmicks, it just gets a pass because it is the best driver most of us have ever hit.
  • JDaxJDax Posts: 84
    Man, I'm glad the engineers at Ping didn't submit the G400 Max or the engineers at Titleist didn't submit the new TS drivers. They wouldn't have made it past the first episode. They should rename the show Gimmick Versus Gimmick.




    All new drivers that have new tech, are going to be viewed as gimmicky at first...
  • rainkingjrrainkingjr Members Posts: 2,567 ✭✭
    edited Oct 16, 2018 #143
    Funny hearing Tim Clark talk about these drivers having to stand up to 127mph tour swings. Like anyone on tour is going to bag one. image/swoon.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':swoon:' />
  • YepyukonYepyukon Hinge + Hold Members Posts: 4,122 ✭✭
    Glad the trackman gave actual numers this time. I remember last year when they went to some charity golf tournament and the amateurs were hitting it like 340.
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  • CKalmaCKalma Members Posts: 444 ✭✭
    Yepyukon wrote:


    Glad the trackman gave actual numers this time. I remember last year when they went to some charity golf tournament and the amateurs were hitting it like 340.




    They were also wildly inconsistent numbers. I know only 2 or 3 shots with a driver and shaft they're all unfamiliar with, but with a repetitive swing you would think the numbers would be closer. I think it was Barnes who had them spinning 2500-4000+rpms.
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  • theboypinoytheboypinoy Members Posts: 2,022 ✭✭
    The numbers from Trackman were cool to see.



    The Roswell's numbers were better than most of the remainders, I think
  • chivachiva Members Posts: 2,415 ✭✭
    CKalma wrote:

    Yepyukon wrote:


    Glad the trackman gave actual numers this time. I remember last year when they went to some charity golf tournament and the amateurs were hitting it like 340.




    They were also wildly inconsistent numbers. I know only 2 or 3 shots with a driver and shaft they're all unfamiliar with, but with a repetitive swing you would think the numbers would be closer. I think it was Barnes who had them spinning 2500-4000+rpms.




    Barnes isn’t the best driver on tour for sure.
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  • GolfingfanaticGolfingfanatic Members Posts: 3,013 ✭✭
    Gotta feel for the Wilson pros. Some of the drivers are just straight junk.
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  • GoGoErkyGoGoErky Members Posts: 1,056 ✭✭
    Yepyukon wrote:


    Glad the trackman gave actual numers this time. I remember last year when they went to some charity golf tournament and the amateurs were hitting it like 340.




    Iirc they were st Tahoe which is at elevation and several of the guys they used do hit the ball pretty far...not to mention trackman can be adjusted to inflate numbers and while that may juice some they are still number spot out by the system
  • Double GeeDouble Gee Posts: 1,081 ✭✭


    Gotta feel for the Wilson pros. Some of the drivers are just straight junk.




    Possibly, but their V6 irons are one of the best made.



    But I guess because it's isn't badged with TaylorMade or Callaway, then not many would even try them.
  • 03trdblack03trdblack ClubWRX Posts: 1,829 ClubWRX
    chiva wrote:

    CKalma wrote:

    Yepyukon wrote:


    Glad the trackman gave actual numers this time. I remember last year when they went to some charity golf tournament and the amateurs were hitting it like 340.




    They were also wildly inconsistent numbers. I know only 2 or 3 shots with a driver and shaft they're all unfamiliar with, but with a repetitive swing you would think the numbers would be closer. I think it was Barnes who had them spinning 2500-4000+rpms.




    Barnes isn’t the best driver on tour for sure.




    Is he even on tour anymore? Thought he was down to the web.com
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