Brooks Koepka and the his lack of respect

[QuigleyDU]

> @vrnyn said:

> Love him or hate him, Brooks gets it done. I'd rather watch him bomb it around a course than listen to Spieth cry his way around.

 

I would be willing to bet he does not get it done at the tour championship. I would love to see him win it, I just think his winning power is over rated. He has shown he can win, but he is far from a week to week lock.

[JohnnyCashForever]

> @marmooskapaul said:

> He is perceived about the same way as Ivan Lendl in tennis was. For those of us old enough to remember lol.

 

Good analogy. Or Albert Bell/Jim Rice in baseball, although neither won championships.

 

Favorite Lendl story. He skipped Wimbledon one year and claimed to be allergic to grass. He was photographed playing golf the next week.

[HonestPlayer]

It's gamesmanship more than lack of respect.

[callawayjay]

> @vrnyn said:

> Love him or hate him, Brooks gets it done. I'd rather watch him bomb it around a course than listen to Spieth cry his way around.

 

Except we get to hear Brooks complain about it after the round, where Speith tends to be pretty respectful in interviews. Brooks to me is a flaming narcissist who really doesn’t like golf but is immensely good at it.

[Barfolomew]

How does Brooks get no respect.... we think he's a great player

[Kid Bro Sweets]

> @playar32 said:

> Brooks is a big gamer hunter, a mans man, masculine, aggressive.

> People don't want that in this day and age.

 

Also they feel threaten by that.

[Man_O_War]

> @widow-maker said:

> Brooks gets plenty of respect, especially from his peers. Even Brandel recognizes him as the #1 player in the World. The rest of it is just background noise. Tiger endured the background noise during his whole run at #1. People will always take swipes at the guy on top, for whatever reasons they can find.

 

who is this brandel fella? Is that the other name for Nicklaus? or one time winner on tour with a career not worth mentioning, who somehow needs blood sacrifices daily?

[Mfitzrealestate]

Love watching him play majors. I like his brash talk and fast play. But it feels to me that he goes out of his way to make sure everyone knows he isn’t a golf nerd. Like he’d rather be playing a real sport but he unfortunately is so good at golf...so, respect I’ll give for sure, but you don’t get the love from us golf nerds with that.

[vrnyn]

> @callawayjay said:

> > @vrnyn said:

> > Love him or hate him, Brooks gets it done. I'd rather watch him bomb it around a course than listen to Spieth cry his way around.

>

> Except we get to hear Brooks complain about it after the round, where Speith tends to be pretty respectful in interviews. Brooks to me is a flaming narcissist who really doesn’t like golf but is immensely good at it.

 

We could go back and forth on this one for days, every golfer complains whether its during or after the round.

I don't see anything wrong with Brook's attitude, he's good and he knows it, not much different from Tiger when he was younger. But I certainly understand why Brook's attitude rubs people the wrong way.

[TomBomb51]

> @tbowles411 said:

> > @golfandfishing said:

> > Brooks is a fake tough guy d bag. He gets plenty of respect for his golf abilities, but no one over the mental age of 14 cares about Instagram so it’s not surprising the golf media ask him a few questions then move on to the guys with personalities for storylines.

> This is where I fall. I usually don't get involved with the "personal" aspect of golfers, but something just rubs me the wrong way about this guy. His golf is off the charts good, and I suppose that's where it should end. I will say this, people bashed Tiger for not giving the media much and Brooks is pretty much the same way. This doesn't bother me as much as his "I don't give an F" attitude on the course. The results are there, but for me, he just comes across as hard to root for. I don't root against anyone, but I'm not falling over myself for the guy.

>

 

This is how I feel about Tiger. I realize this is a Brooks thread, but I had to chime in since you mentioned Tiger. I can't get behind someone like Tiger also for the "personal" aspect. The dude cheated on his wife with strippers and pee'd on them. Talk about disrespectful...The guy is barely human and was raised as a robot, how can some people hate on Brooks for his wacky personal choices, but not hurtful to anyone, but slob all over Tiger when he's one of the biggest POS's on tour?

[third-times-a-charm]

> @callawayjay said:

> > @vrnyn said:

> > Love him or hate him, Brooks gets it done. I'd rather watch him bomb it around a course than listen to Spieth cry his way around.

>

> Except we get to hear Brooks complain about it after the round, where Speith tends to be pretty respectful in interviews. Brooks to me is a flaming narcissist who really doesn’t like golf but is immensely good at it.

 

I keep hearing people saying he doesnt like golf, but I think its people misconstruing his comments. Sure - he grew up wanting to be a baseball star but its not like he just picked up golf one day at age 17, shot a hole in one, and got on the FSU golf team and the PGA tour....

 

he's been playing for quite some time and is using his athleticism - which didnt work out for him in baseball - in golf. Hes been practicing for a long time at that.

[bscinstnct]

> @TomBomb51 said:

> > @tbowles411 said:

> > > @golfandfishing said:

> > > Brooks is a fake tough guy d bag. He gets plenty of respect for his golf abilities, but no one over the mental age of 14 cares about Instagram so it’s not surprising the golf media ask him a few questions then move on to the guys with personalities for storylines.

> > This is where I fall. I usually don't get involved with the "personal" aspect of golfers, but something just rubs me the wrong way about this guy. His golf is off the charts good, and I suppose that's where it should end. I will say this, people bashed Tiger for not giving the media much and Brooks is pretty much the same way. This doesn't bother me as much as his "I don't give an F" attitude on the course. The results are there, but for me, he just comes across as hard to root for. I don't root against anyone, but I'm not falling over myself for the guy.

> >

>

> This is how I feel about Tiger. I realize this is a Brooks thread, but I had to chime in since you mentioned Tiger. I can't get behind someone like Tiger also for the "personal" aspect. The dude cheated on his wife with strippers and pee'd on them. Talk about disrespectful...The guy is barely human and was raised as a robot, **how can some people hate on Brooks for his wacky personal choices, but not hurtful to anyone, but slob all over Tiger when he's one of the biggest POS's on tour?**

 

 

Cause,

 

 

[tbowles411]

> @TomBomb51 said:

> > @tbowles411 said:

> > > @golfandfishing said:

> > > Brooks is a fake tough guy d bag. He gets plenty of respect for his golf abilities, but no one over the mental age of 14 cares about Instagram so it’s not surprising the golf media ask him a few questions then move on to the guys with personalities for storylines.

> > This is where I fall. I usually don't get involved with the "personal" aspect of golfers, but something just rubs me the wrong way about this guy. His golf is off the charts good, and I suppose that's where it should end. I will say this, people bashed Tiger for not giving the media much and Brooks is pretty much the same way. This doesn't bother me as much as his "I don't give an F" attitude on the course. The results are there, but for me, he just comes across as hard to root for. I don't root against anyone, but I'm not falling over myself for the guy.

> >

>

> This is how I feel about Tiger. I realize this is a Brooks thread, but I had to chime in since you mentioned Tiger. I can't get behind someone like Tiger also for the "personal" aspect. The dude cheated on his wife with strippers and pee'd on them. Talk about disrespectful...The guy is barely human and was raised as a robot, how can some people hate on Brooks for his wacky personal choices, but not hurtful to anyone, but slob all over Tiger when he's one of the biggest POS's on tour?

 

Well, public embarrassment can bring about a change in people. His issues finally came to a head and he HAD to change. Tiger is well liked on tour who had demons he had to wrestle and growing up to do. When no one tells you "no" bad things happen. That's just true in life. We have many touring pros come through our doors and they all respect and like him; they always have. They acknowledge he was harder in the past and now he's WAY more personable. And lets be honest, to think TW was the only one unfaithful is misguided thinking. He's just the highest profile. That and addictions made him grow up an reevaluate life. Touring pros rallied around him when he was spiraling downward. POS's don't get that treatment and consideration if they're truly that way.

 

Now back to Brooks...

[alcap26]

I like Brooks. I think he does not care about the media and I am okay with that. He is out there to win the big events and prioritizes appropriately. He is not playing a team sport so there is no need to worry about sharing the stage. I get that as I had that attitude back when I would pitch. I felt like the game was mine and if I did my job then nothing else mattered. I respected my teammates for bailing out my mistakes but the game was in my hands and I wanted that stage. I was not approachable in the dugout because I was so driven and focused I did not want to distract in any way. When I was not pitching I was a completely different player and share the stage. I would cut up with my teammates and have my pitchers back. It is just what I did to be successful on the mound. I see that in Brooks. He is driven and focused and does not care what others think or say. I have no problem with that and since the game is always in his hand then he performs the way that works best for him. I appreciate him much more than the mentally weak Jordan Spieth players.

[Pepperturbo]

IMO - Brooks doesn't play to the media, yet he and his GF use the media for unconventional off-course attention, similar to DJ and his GF. They are NOT in the same category as JN, AP, Phil or Els, and their spouses, among others. They publicly focus on promoting the game, family and social issues and care how they are seen. I don't believe Tiger is in their category, but if we're only talking WINS, Tiger does.

 

BK doesn't belong in the same conversation as the aforementioned. I like BK's game attitude but not his or his GF's attention-getting public behavior. They don't care what the public thinks.

[bscinstnct]

> @tbowles411 said:

> > @TomBomb51 said:

> > > @tbowles411 said:

> > > > @golfandfishing said:

> > > > Brooks is a fake tough guy d bag. He gets plenty of respect for his golf abilities, but no one over the mental age of 14 cares about Instagram so it’s not surprising the golf media ask him a few questions then move on to the guys with personalities for storylines.

> > > This is where I fall. I usually don't get involved with the "personal" aspect of golfers, but something just rubs me the wrong way about this guy. His golf is off the charts good, and I suppose that's where it should end. I will say this, people bashed Tiger for not giving the media much and Brooks is pretty much the same way. This doesn't bother me as much as his "I don't give an F" attitude on the course. The results are there, but for me, he just comes across as hard to root for. I don't root against anyone, but I'm not falling over myself for the guy.

> > >

> >

> > This is how I feel about Tiger. I realize this is a Brooks thread, but I had to chime in since you mentioned Tiger. I can't get behind someone like Tiger also for the "personal" aspect. The dude cheated on his wife with strippers and pee'd on them. Talk about disrespectful...The guy is barely human and was raised as a robot, how can some people hate on Brooks for his wacky personal choices, but not hurtful to anyone, but slob all over Tiger when he's one of the biggest POS's on tour?

>

> Well, public embarrassment can bring about a change in people. His issues finally came to a head and he HAD to change. Tiger is well liked on tour who had demons he had to wrestle and growing up to do. When no one tells you "no" bad things happen. That's just true in life. We have many touring pros come through our doors and they all respect and like him; they always have. They acknowledge he was harder in the past and now he's WAY more personable. And lets be honest, to think TW was the only one unfaithful is misguided thinking. He's just the highest profile. That and addictions made him grow up an reevaluate life. Touring pros rallied around him when he was spiraling downward. POS's don't get that treatment and consideration if they're truly that way.

>

> Now back to Brooks...

 

Plus, anecdotally, I've noticed that people who call TW a "POS" for his personal life never liked him before that all happened.

 

As far as BK, I like him. He does his work, plays fast, doesn't complain, seems like a good guy all around.

[tbowles411]

> @bscinstnct said:

> > @tbowles411 said:

> > > @TomBomb51 said:

> > > > @tbowles411 said:

> > > > > @golfandfishing said:

> > > > > Brooks is a fake tough guy d bag. He gets plenty of respect for his golf abilities, but no one over the mental age of 14 cares about Instagram so it’s not surprising the golf media ask him a few questions then move on to the guys with personalities for storylines.

> > > > This is where I fall. I usually don't get involved with the "personal" aspect of golfers, but something just rubs me the wrong way about this guy. His golf is off the charts good, and I suppose that's where it should end. I will say this, people bashed Tiger for not giving the media much and Brooks is pretty much the same way. This doesn't bother me as much as his "I don't give an F" attitude on the course. The results are there, but for me, he just comes across as hard to root for. I don't root against anyone, but I'm not falling over myself for the guy.

> > > >

> > >

> > > This is how I feel about Tiger. I realize this is a Brooks thread, but I had to chime in since you mentioned Tiger. I can't get behind someone like Tiger also for the "personal" aspect. The dude cheated on his wife with strippers and pee'd on them. Talk about disrespectful...The guy is barely human and was raised as a robot, how can some people hate on Brooks for his wacky personal choices, but not hurtful to anyone, but slob all over Tiger when he's one of the biggest POS's on tour?

> >

> > Well, public embarrassment can bring about a change in people. His issues finally came to a head and he HAD to change. Tiger is well liked on tour who had demons he had to wrestle and growing up to do. When no one tells you "no" bad things happen. That's just true in life. We have many touring pros come through our doors and they all respect and like him; they always have. They acknowledge he was harder in the past and now he's WAY more personable. And lets be honest, to think TW was the only one unfaithful is misguided thinking. He's just the highest profile. That and addictions made him grow up an reevaluate life. Touring pros rallied around him when he was spiraling downward. POS's don't get that treatment and consideration if they're truly that way.

> >

> > Now back to Brooks...

>

> Plus, anecdotally, I've noticed that people who call TW a "POS" for his personal life never liked him before that all happened.

>

> As far as BK, I like him. He does his work, plays fast, doesn't complain, seems like a good guy all around.

 

Now let's put this to bed before the thread gets out of control and locked up. :)

[callawayjay]

> @vrnyn said:

> > @callawayjay said:

> > > @vrnyn said:

> > > Love him or hate him, Brooks gets it done. I'd rather watch him bomb it around a course than listen to Spieth cry his way around.

> >

> > Except we get to hear Brooks complain about it after the round, where Speith tends to be pretty respectful in interviews. Brooks to me is a flaming narcissist who really doesn’t like golf but is immensely good at it.

>

> We could go back and forth on this one for days, every golfer complains whether its during or after the round.

> I don't see anything wrong with Brook's attitude, he's good and he knows it, not much different from Tiger when he was younger. But I certainly understand why Brook's attitude rubs people the wrong way.

 

My point is I would rather listen to Speith complain during his round about, you know, golf, than some meathead after the round complain he gets no respect. I stand by my narcissistic observation of him

 

 

[vrnyn]

> @callawayjay said:

> > @vrnyn said:

> > > @callawayjay said:

> > > > @vrnyn said:

> > > > Love him or hate him, Brooks gets it done. I'd rather watch him bomb it around a course than listen to Spieth cry his way around.

> > >

> > > Except we get to hear Brooks complain about it after the round, where Speith tends to be pretty respectful in interviews. Brooks to me is a flaming narcissist who really doesn’t like golf but is immensely good at it.

> >

> > We could go back and forth on this one for days, every golfer complains whether its during or after the round.

> > I don't see anything wrong with Brook's attitude, he's good and he knows it, not much different from Tiger when he was younger. But I certainly understand why Brook's attitude rubs people the wrong way.

>

> My point is I would rather listen to Speith complain during his round about, you know, golf, than some meathead after the round complain he gets no respect. I stand by my narcissistic observation of him

>

>

 

Some would argue that being a narcissist could help a persons golf game, especially at the professional level.

[huckitchuckit]

So many salty old school golf fans on here. Let the man do his thing. He doesn't have to change how he acts because reporters are a bunch of sallys. I love the way he acts. Not scared to tell the truth and call people out.

[cardia10]

Tiger was about as personable as a tree unless you got the fist uppercut a few times a round. He was a terrible boring interview. All of that changed out of necessity for him to regain and keep sponsorship after the unfortunate iron to the face. If he had been this personable his whole career, people would put him in the same light as Jack and Arnie. Brooks deserves much more credit than he gets right now, but he is also not typically a ball of energy but he also doesn't have the magic flashes like Tiger did. If he sustains the winning, he may earn more respect, but he is kind of hard to like.

[callawayjay]

The only thing a narcissist excels at is being a douchenozzle. Change my mind

[vrnyn]

> @callawayjay said:

> The only thing a narcissist excels at is being a douchenozzle. Change my mind

 

 

I do agree with that. I think a lot of the time what appears to be narcissism in athletes is actually just a large amount of self confidence.

 

[bscinstnct]

> @vrnyn said:

> > @callawayjay said:

> > The only thing a narcissist excels at is being a douchenozzle. Change my mind

>

>

> I do agree with that. I think a lot of the time what appears to be narcissism in athletes is actually just a large amount of self confidence.

>

 

Lots of great athletes are total narcissists. As is the case with a many top people in their field in general.

 

The lack on conscience, total self centered outlook, feeling they never do wrong is what enables them to stomp all over everyone and go to the top.

[BlackM00Nlight]

What’s on his left shoe? Anyone know?

[BLF0901]

> @"Big Ben" said:

> I can’t get around Brooks he’s about as charismatic as a pet rock. Guy has game though no doubt about it.

 

Why does _charisma_ matter? The guy isn't a jerk and he plays damned good golf. Shouldn't that be what a fan looks for in an athlete?

[BLF0901]

> @TomBomb51 said:

> > @tbowles411 said:

> > > @golfandfishing said:

> > > Brooks is a fake tough guy d bag. He gets plenty of respect for his golf abilities, but no one over the mental age of 14 cares about Instagram so it’s not surprising the golf media ask him a few questions then move on to the guys with personalities for storylines.

> > This is where I fall. I usually don't get involved with the "personal" aspect of golfers, but something just rubs me the wrong way about this guy. His golf is off the charts good, and I suppose that's where it should end. I will say this, people bashed Tiger for not giving the media much and Brooks is pretty much the same way. This doesn't bother me as much as his "I don't give an F" attitude on the course. The results are there, but for me, he just comes across as hard to root for. I don't root against anyone, but I'm not falling over myself for the guy.

> >

>

> This is how I feel about Tiger. I realize this is a Brooks thread, but I had to chime in since you mentioned Tiger. I can't get behind someone like Tiger also for the "personal" aspect. The dude cheated on his wife with strippers and pee'd on them. Talk about disrespectful...The guy is barely human and was raised as a robot, how can some people hate on Brooks for his wacky personal choices, but not hurtful to anyone, but slob all over Tiger when he's one of the biggest POS's on tour?

 

Never mind the way he strolled past autograph seeking kids like they weren't there and was notorious about stiffing people on tips even though he was worth nearly $1b. Tiger was a jerk and had one of the most manufactured personalities in professional sports, but these guys complaining about Brook's lack of personality were no doubt fawning all over Tiger.

[bscinstnct]

> @BLF0901 said:

> > @TomBomb51 said:

> > > @tbowles411 said:

> > > > @golfandfishing said:

> > > > Brooks is a fake tough guy d bag. He gets plenty of respect for his golf abilities, but no one over the mental age of 14 cares about Instagram so it’s not surprising the golf media ask him a few questions then move on to the guys with personalities for storylines.

> > > This is where I fall. I usually don't get involved with the "personal" aspect of golfers, but something just rubs me the wrong way about this guy. His golf is off the charts good, and I suppose that's where it should end. I will say this, people bashed Tiger for not giving the media much and Brooks is pretty much the same way. This doesn't bother me as much as his "I don't give an F" attitude on the course. The results are there, but for me, he just comes across as hard to root for. I don't root against anyone, but I'm not falling over myself for the guy.

> > >

> >

> > This is how I feel about Tiger. I realize this is a Brooks thread, but I had to chime in since you mentioned Tiger. I can't get behind someone like Tiger also for the "personal" aspect. The dude cheated on his wife with strippers and pee'd on them. Talk about disrespectful...The guy is barely human and was raised as a robot, how can some people hate on Brooks for his wacky personal choices, but not hurtful to anyone, but slob all over Tiger when he's one of the biggest POS's on tour?

>

> Never mind the way he strolled past autograph seeking kids like they weren't there and was notorious about stiffing people on tips even though he was worth nearly $1b. Tiger was a jerk and had one of the most manufactured personalities in professional sports, but these guys complaining about Brook's lack of personality were no doubt fawning all over Tiger.

 

People "fawning" over TW "manufactured personality" cause he be like,

 

 

 

 

 

[JD3]

"" delete "" wrong thread

[BLF0901]

> @bscinstnct said:

> > @BLF0901 said:

> > > @TomBomb51 said:

> > > > @tbowles411 said:

> > > > > @golfandfishing said:

> > > > > Brooks is a fake tough guy d bag. He gets plenty of respect for his golf abilities, but no one over the mental age of 14 cares about Instagram so it’s not surprising the golf media ask him a few questions then move on to the guys with personalities for storylines.

> > > > This is where I fall. I usually don't get involved with the "personal" aspect of golfers, but something just rubs me the wrong way about this guy. His golf is off the charts good, and I suppose that's where it should end. I will say this, people bashed Tiger for not giving the media much and Brooks is pretty much the same way. This doesn't bother me as much as his "I don't give an F" attitude on the course. The results are there, but for me, he just comes across as hard to root for. I don't root against anyone, but I'm not falling over myself for the guy.

> > > >

> > >

> > > This is how I feel about Tiger. I realize this is a Brooks thread, but I had to chime in since you mentioned Tiger. I can't get behind someone like Tiger also for the "personal" aspect. The dude cheated on his wife with strippers and pee'd on them. Talk about disrespectful...The guy is barely human and was raised as a robot, how can some people hate on Brooks for his wacky personal choices, but not hurtful to anyone, but slob all over Tiger when he's one of the biggest POS's on tour?

> >

> > Never mind the way he strolled past autograph seeking kids like they weren't there and was notorious about stiffing people on tips even though he was worth nearly $1b. Tiger was a jerk and had one of the most manufactured personalities in professional sports, but these guys complaining about Brook's lack of personality were no doubt fawning all over Tiger.

>

> People "fawning" over TW "manufactured personality" cause he be like,

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The people we root for say a lot about who we are....you strike me as the type that roots for the house in blackjack.