The New Master's Womens Amateur Championship

[4waymiss]

 

Ok, so I made a few posts criticizing the format of this tournament and the way ANGC is handling it. All of a sudden I got a number of new friends ( who must also be members of ANGC) popping out of the woodwork to ~~attack ~~ debate me left and right.

 

The ~~attack~~ arguments mainly falls into three categories:

 

1, "ANGC is a private club and they can do whatever they please"

DUH. That goes without saying. It is their course, their club , their tournament. Heck , they could cancel next week's Masters and tell everyone to go home if they want to. But I am not sure this argument adds anything meaningful to the table.

 

2, "ANGC went out of their way to create this, yet you people are still unappreciative"

On the contrary, I commended them for taking this giant first step when they announced it last year. I don't expect it to be perfect in the first try, but I holding out hope that Fred Ridley will make the right adjustment. That said , I don't believe that puts them above any criticism.

 

3, Labeling ( hater, jealous etc )

After all, it is the first rule of internet forums , right ? But for some reason I detect some sort of undertone in those naming calling. as if I am trying to advance some kind of agenda/entitlement. Without violating the forum policy , I will leave it at that.

 

In the end, I have to say I am surprised by the place that a golf club would hold in some people's mind. Or maybe it represents something more than golf.

 

[buckeyefl]

> @Shilgy said:

> > @rushfan96 said:

> > > @pollo said:

> > > It's unfortunate for the women who got their invite to the tournament and excited to play competitively at ANGC only to find out it's only the final round, and only if you make the cut, so not even all the invitee's will play there. Especially since, you know, it's called the "AUGUSTA NATIONAL Women's Amateur".

> >

> >

> > The whole field gets to play Augusta the day before the final round

> >

>

> They just posted that again on GC-all 72 players get to play the practice round at AN.> @Argonne69 said:

> > > @BrianMcG said:

> > > > @CCTxGolf said:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > @duffer987 said:

> > > > > > @MountainGoat said:

> > > > > > Like the drive, chip and putt contest, this event will do more to grow the game than anything the USGA has ever done.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > They don't give a toss about growing the game anymore than the USGA.

> > > > > Scheduling their event opposite the LPGA's first big event of the year on US soil doesn't help grow anything.

> > > >

> > > > Wait?!? ANGC and The Masters scheduled their event opposite the ANA?!? Lol That’s some funny ****.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > That only effects maybe 4 players on whether they play in the ANA or the ANWA.

> > >

> >

> > Yeah, but you're talking about the #2, #3, #4, and #11 ranked amateurs in the world.

>

> It is, in my opinion, a bad optic for AN. As in "who cares if there is a women's major"? We are the home of the Masters and don't care about women's golf outside our event.

 

Its more than likely simple logistics and course prep. No big conspiracy or snub against anyone.

[buckeyefl]

> @4waymiss said:

> > @BrianMcG said:

> > > @"North Texas" said:

> > > > @BrianMcG said:

> > > > No matter what Augusta does, there's going to be people to complain about it.

> > >

> > > Some people, i.e the usual suspects on this board, just can't help themselves. It's really humorous reading some of those comments when there are 70 young ladies having the time of the life and making a special memory for themselves. But yea, let's **** all over that and the organization that made it happen.

> >

> >

> >

> > Yeah. I bet the winner on Saturday as she's holding up her arms in triumph on 18 as a crowd of 30,000 cheers is going to be really disappointed. She will probably go on Twitter to voice her displeasure at not being able to play all 3 rounds at ANGC.

>

> I am sure the winner and the others who get to play on Saturday will be having a ball. But I have a feeling those girls who miss the cut would be slightly disappointed not to have played a tournament round at AN.

>

> You know some of these girls have actually _played_ AN, from their college team invitation , etc. Something is missing when you are playing in "Augusta National Women's Amateur" and not get to actually compete in AN.

 

Playing well has its benefits. Those that didnt make it still get to play the course and will learn a valuable life lesson that they are probably already aware of and obviously much more aware of than a few posting here.

[buckeyefl]

> @4waymiss said:

>

> Ok, so I made a few posts criticizing the format of this tournament and the way ANGC is handling it. All of a sudden I got a number of new friends ( who must also be members of ANGC) popping out of the woodwork to ~~attack ~~ debate me left and right.

>

> The ~~attack~~ arguments mainly falls into three categories:

>

> 1, "ANGC is a private club and they can do whatever they please"

> DUH. That goes without saying. It is their course, their club , their tournament. Heck , they could cancel next week's Masters and tell everyone to go home if they want to. But I am not sure this argument adds anything meaningful to the table.

>

> 2, "ANGC went out of their way to create this, yet you people are still unappreciative"

> On the contrary, I commended them for taking this giant first step when they announced it last year. I don't expect it to be perfect in the first try, but I holding out hope that Fred Ridley will make the right adjustment. That said , I don't believe that puts them above any criticism.

>

> 3, Labeling ( hater, jealous etc )

> After all, it is the first rule of internet forums , right ? But for some reason I detect some sort of undertone in those naming calling. as if I am trying to advance some kind of agenda/entitlement. Without violating the forum policy , I will leave it at that.

>

> In the end, I have to say I am surprised by the place that a golf club would hold in some people's mind. Or maybe it represents something more than golf.

>

 

Odd that you claim to understand all of that but still made all of those ridiculous posts and comments like the last part of your #2. What is "the right thing?" Maybe before posting again read #1 over and over again and then step away from the keyboard.

[4waymiss]

> @buckeyefl said:

> > @4waymiss said:

> >

> > Ok, so I made a few posts criticizing the format of this tournament and the way ANGC is handling it. All of a sudden I got a number of new friends ( who must also be members of ANGC) popping out of the woodwork to ~~attack ~~ debate me left and right.

> >

> > The ~~attack~~ arguments mainly falls into three categories:

> >

> > 1, "ANGC is a private club and they can do whatever they please"

> > DUH. That goes without saying. It is their course, their club , their tournament. Heck , they could cancel next week's Masters and tell everyone to go home if they want to. But I am not sure this argument adds anything meaningful to the table.

> >

> > 2, "ANGC went out of their way to create this, yet you people are still unappreciative"

> > On the contrary, I commended them for taking this giant first step when they announced it last year. I don't expect it to be perfect in the first try, but I holding out hope that Fred Ridley will make the right adjustment. That said , I don't believe that puts them above any criticism.

> >

> > 3, Labeling ( hater, jealous etc )

> > After all, it is the first rule of internet forums , right ? But for some reason I detect some sort of undertone in those naming calling. as if I am trying to advance some kind of agenda/entitlement. Without violating the forum policy , I will leave it at that.

> >

> > In the end, I have to say I am surprised by the place that a golf club would hold in some people's mind. Or maybe it represents something more than golf.

> >

>

> Odd that you claim to understand all of that but still made all of those ridiculous posts and comments like the last part of your #2. What is "the right thing?" Maybe before posting again read #1 over and over again and then step away from the keyboard.

 

Wait, if I am understanding you correctly, you are saying that since ANGC is a private organization, therefore I cannot criticize them ?

 

I am free to criticize whomever I please. And ANGC is also absolutely free to ignore my criticism and tell me to go F myself.

 

I thought this is how the free world works.

 

 

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> @4waymiss said:

> > @buckeyefl said:

> > > @4waymiss said:

> > >

> > > Ok, so I made a few posts criticizing the format of this tournament and the way ANGC is handling it. All of a sudden I got a number of new friends ( who must also be members of ANGC) popping out of the woodwork to ~~attack ~~ debate me left and right.

> > >

> > > The ~~attack~~ arguments mainly falls into three categories:

> > >

> > > 1, "ANGC is a private club and they can do whatever they please"

> > > DUH. That goes without saying. It is their course, their club , their tournament. Heck , they could cancel next week's Masters and tell everyone to go home if they want to. But I am not sure this argument adds anything meaningful to the table.

> > >

> > > 2, "ANGC went out of their way to create this, yet you people are still unappreciative"

> > > On the contrary, I commended them for taking this giant first step when they announced it last year. I don't expect it to be perfect in the first try, but I holding out hope that Fred Ridley will make the right adjustment. That said , I don't believe that puts them above any criticism.

> > >

> > > 3, Labeling ( hater, jealous etc )

> > > After all, it is the first rule of internet forums , right ? But for some reason I detect some sort of undertone in those naming calling. as if I am trying to advance some kind of agenda/entitlement. Without violating the forum policy , I will leave it at that.

> > >

> > > In the end, I have to say I am surprised by the place that a golf club would hold in some people's mind. Or maybe it represents something more than golf.

> > >

> >

> > Odd that you claim to understand all of that but still made all of those ridiculous posts and comments like the last part of your #2. What is "the right thing?" Maybe before posting again read #1 over and over again and then step away from the keyboard.

>

> Wait, if I am understanding you correctly, you are saying that since ANGC is a private organization, therefore I cannot criticize them ?

>

> I am free to criticize whomever I please. And ANGC is also absolutely free to ignore my criticism and tell me to go F myself.

>

> I thought this is how the free world works.

>

>

 

Ignore...be completely unaware of its existence...Six and one half dozen really

[Enduro59]

Hey 4way , just like me and everybody else your thinking on how the free world works is skewed by zeolousness,selfishness,upbringing and DNA. At first I thought you were just messing with us or pulling our chain if you will. Just started posting on here myself but have been appreciating and gleaning knowledge from your posts for years. Whose right or who is wrong is hard to determine in these days we live in but in this thread you are in the minority with your point of view.

[Darth Putter]

I must admit, I did not think of the use of local caddies before the tournament.

 

Keep dad on the bag or replace him? A tough choice for some right now.

 

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/the-abrupt-decision-women-are-making-the-night-before-they-compete-at-augusta-national

[MountainGoat]

So far, two threads and over 8K views for the ANWA and one thread and 1.5K views for the LPGA's first Major. Says something about the relative interest in these two events.

[North Texas]

So far early in the round, it doesn't appear that the course is overwhelming the girls.

[Shilgy]

> @MountainGoat said:

> So far, two threads and over 8K views for the ANWA and one thread and 1.5K views for the LPGA's first Major. Says something about the relative interest in these two events.

 

Also says something for threads with a subject we can argue about. :wink:

[cardoustie]

Nice w the four legends hitting tee balls on 1

[dont rory be happy]

Have enjoyed it. Great for the sport. Wonder if they will do an Am for the mens next year.

[North Texas]

Come on Golf Channel, be better. It's Live From and you're trying to make us believe the highlights you are showing are live when they are not. You're about 5 minutes behind.

[Hawkeye77]

Damn, I'm enjoying this!

[Hawkeye77]

Okay, "Darn".

[tokeyb]

I actually enjoyed that long,piece,on Bobby Jones and the women golfers who inspired him and the course. But for the love,of god, Golf Channel, put that piece on before play starts and just SHOW THE LADIES PLAYING.

[Hawkeye77]

That commercial I like with the girl hitting the ball and it bouncing all over the place would be a lot funnier if it hit Rich and then Brandel and we got back to more actual golf!

[BobMorris]

As usual, Golf Channel has done their best to make a good thing virtually unwatchable with their endless pontificating. Knowing how the ANGC oversees telecasts though, this farce might not be solely of GC's doing.

[North Texas]

You guys do realize that what you are seeing on the Golf Channel is not the actual telecast, right? The actual telecast starts at noon eastern on NBC.

[Hawkeye77]

Yes! Well aware, but if they are going to show some shots, show a lot more shots!

 

Hey, if we are b_______g about the same old stuff, that kind of elevates this to all the other big events!

 

Edit: that reminds me I have 13 minutes to shower and reminds me I probably won't miss anything when I do!

[buckeyefl]

> @4waymiss said:

> > @buckeyefl said:

> > > @4waymiss said:

> > >

> > > Ok, so I made a few posts criticizing the format of this tournament and the way ANGC is handling it. All of a sudden I got a number of new friends ( who must also be members of ANGC) popping out of the woodwork to ~~attack ~~ debate me left and right.

> > >

> > > The ~~attack~~ arguments mainly falls into three categories:

> > >

> > > 1, "ANGC is a private club and they can do whatever they please"

> > > DUH. That goes without saying. It is their course, their club , their tournament. Heck , they could cancel next week's Masters and tell everyone to go home if they want to. But I am not sure this argument adds anything meaningful to the table.

> > >

> > > 2, "ANGC went out of their way to create this, yet you people are still unappreciative"

> > > On the contrary, I commended them for taking this giant first step when they announced it last year. I don't expect it to be perfect in the first try, but I holding out hope that Fred Ridley will make the right adjustment. That said , I don't believe that puts them above any criticism.

> > >

> > > 3, Labeling ( hater, jealous etc )

> > > After all, it is the first rule of internet forums , right ? But for some reason I detect some sort of undertone in those naming calling. as if I am trying to advance some kind of agenda/entitlement. Without violating the forum policy , I will leave it at that.

> > >

> > > In the end, I have to say I am surprised by the place that a golf club would hold in some people's mind. Or maybe it represents something more than golf.

> > >

> >

> > Odd that you claim to understand all of that but still made all of those ridiculous posts and comments like the last part of your #2. What is "the right thing?" Maybe before posting again read #1 over and over again and then step away from the keyboard.

>

> Wait, if I am understanding you correctly, you are saying that since ANGC is a private organization, therefore I cannot criticize them ?

>

> I am free to criticize whomever I please. And ANGC is also absolutely free to ignore my criticism and tell me to go F myself.

>

> I thought this is how the free world works.

>

>

 

Don't try to understand. It doesn't seem to be your strength on this topic.

[bscinstnct]

This is pretty cool.

[BrianMcG]

The golf channel coverage was horrible. 5min commercial, 10 min Brandel, show a putt, repeat.

[Ignatius Reilly]

Ceremonial tee shots from Annika, Lorena, Nancy Lopez and Se Re was a nice touch.

 

Gotta admit, these girls are not being overwhelmed by this course or the greens.

 

A few wayward shots and putts tha ran long and wide, but not really much different to what you see at The Masters from time to time. I'm impressed with the number of quality shots that get close, and some pretty fearless putting.

 

Pretty impressive.

[Darth Putter]

Unlike The Masters, this tournament doesn't really start until the first tee in the final round. :D

[Darth Putter]

> @MountainGoat said:

> So far, two threads and over 8K views for the ANWA and one thread and 1.5K views for the LPGA's first Major. Says something about the relative interest in these two events.

 

The last two women's events I've watched are new, this tournament and last year's US Senior Women's Open.

[ClintDagger]

My uncle goes to the Masters every year and usually is on the grounds from Monday on. He’s there today and he texted me that this is the poorest condition he can remember seeing ANGC. I admit that in just 30 minutes of watching this I’ve noticed more blemishes than I can recall in the past. I wonder if they are jamming too much into these few weeks.

[bullie76]

Pretty good so far. I admit, I was not crazy about the idea of AN opening up for other events. But this is a natural fit for Augusta and can be a boost to the girls game. I give this event a big thumbs up.

[North Texas]

> @ClintDagger said:

> My uncle goes to the Masters every year and usually is on the grounds from Monday on. He’s there today and he texted me that this is the poorest condition he can remember seeing ANGC. I admit that in just 30 minutes of watching this I’ve noticed more blemishes than I can recall in the past. I wonder if they are jamming too much into these few weeks.

 

So they allowed cell phones on the course today unlike during the Masters? Don't think so.

 

You both obviously have better eyes than I do.