Should Cameron Champ get away from Sean Foley?

[lowheel]

> @Ferguson said:

> > @QuigleyDU said:

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> > > > I don't know as I am not super familiar with what Foley teach's, but I feel do feel he gets a bad rap that may be undeserved.

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> > > I think the bad rap comes from a caustic blend of off-the-shelf golf clothes mixed with high fashion glasses, an individualistic coiffure and that certain polarizing aura of neoteric swagger.

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> > Lots of big words there pilgram. We be but simple folk round here...

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> Methinks I summed it up nicely.

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he always carries a man purse too...

 

 

[QuigleyDU]

> @lowheel said:

> > @Ferguson said:

> > > @QuigleyDU said:

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> > > > > I don't know as I am not super familiar with what Foley teach's, but I feel do feel he gets a bad rap that may be undeserved.

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> > > > I think the bad rap comes from a caustic blend of off-the-shelf golf clothes mixed with high fashion glasses, an individualistic coiffure and that certain polarizing aura of neoteric swagger.

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> > > Lots of big words there pilgram. We be but simple folk round here...

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> he always carries a man purse too...

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He is a little old to be acting like a millennial isn't he?

[ebrasmus21]

> @QuigleyDU said:

> > @lowheel said:

> > > @Ferguson said:

> > > > @QuigleyDU said:

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> > > > > > I don't know as I am not super familiar with what Foley teach's, but I feel do feel he gets a bad rap that may be undeserved.

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> > > > > I think the bad rap comes from a caustic blend of off-the-shelf golf clothes mixed with high fashion glasses, an individualistic coiffure and that certain polarizing aura of neoteric swagger.

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> > > > Lots of big words there pilgram. We be but simple folk round here...

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> He is a little old to be acting like a millennial isn't he?

 

https://media.giphy.com/media/RdKjAkFTNZkWUGyRXF/giphy.gif

 

[Ferguson]

> @ebrasmus21 said:

> > @QuigleyDU said:

> > > @lowheel said:

> > > > @Ferguson said:

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> > > > > > > I don't know as I am not super familiar with what Foley teach's, but I feel do feel he gets a bad rap that may be undeserved.

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> > > > > > I think the bad rap comes from a caustic blend of off-the-shelf golf clothes mixed with high fashion glasses, an individualistic coiffure and that certain polarizing aura of neoteric swagger.

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> > > > > Lots of big words there pilgram. We be but simple folk round here...

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> > He is a little old to be acting like a millennial isn't he?

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> https://media.giphy.com/media/RdKjAkFTNZkWUGyRXF/giphy.gif

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Operative word in that question..................."acting."

 

That statement is an insult to all millennials.

 

Driven by a caffeinated attitude, Sean is a windbag thespian pointed in a direction less toward his students’ progressive development and more toward an insatiable desire to fuel his ever-growing devotion of the self.

 

[QuigleyDU]

> @Ferguson said:

> > @ebrasmus21 said:

> > > @QuigleyDU said:

> > > > @lowheel said:

> > > > > @Ferguson said:

> > > > > > @QuigleyDU said:

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> > > > > > > > @QuigleyDU said:

> > > > > > > > I don't know as I am not super familiar with what Foley teach's, but I feel do feel he gets a bad rap that may be undeserved.

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> > > > > > > I think the bad rap comes from a caustic blend of off-the-shelf golf clothes mixed with high fashion glasses, an individualistic coiffure and that certain polarizing aura of neoteric swagger.

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> > > > > > Lots of big words there pilgram. We be but simple folk round here...

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> > > He is a little old to be acting like a millennial isn't he?

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> > https://media.giphy.com/media/RdKjAkFTNZkWUGyRXF/giphy.gif

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> Operative word in that question..................."acting."

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> That statement is an insult to all millennials.

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> Driven by a caffeinated attitude, Sean is a windbag thespian pointed in a direction less toward his students’ progressive development and more toward an insatiable desire to fuel his ever-growing devotion of the self.

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well, all I can say is you must have a much closer relationship with him than I do. I know so very little about him personally I cannot make such judgments. I can joke about his dress manor, or his man bag, but that is about it.

[MK7Golf21]

From outside looking in, Sean does seem like a nice guy really, he just has little guy syndrome.

[Ferguson]

> @QuigleyDU said:

> > @Ferguson said:

> > > @ebrasmus21 said:

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> > > > > @lowheel said:

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> > > > > > > @QuigleyDU said:

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> > > > > > > > > I don't know as I am not super familiar with what Foley teach's, but I feel do feel he gets a bad rap that may be undeserved.

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> > > > > > > > I think the bad rap comes from a caustic blend of off-the-shelf golf clothes mixed with high fashion glasses, an individualistic coiffure and that certain polarizing aura of neoteric swagger.

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> > > > > > > Lots of big words there pilgram. We be but simple folk round here...

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> > > > He is a little old to be acting like a millennial isn't he?

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> > > https://media.giphy.com/media/RdKjAkFTNZkWUGyRXF/giphy.gif

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> > Operative word in that question..................."acting."

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> > That statement is an insult to all millennials.

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> > Driven by a caffeinated attitude, Sean is a windbag thespian pointed in a direction less toward his students’ progressive development and more toward an insatiable desire to fuel his ever-growing devotion of the self.

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> well, all I can say is you must have a much closer relationship with him than I do. I know so very little about him personally I cannot make such judgments. I can joke about his dress manor, or his man bag, but that is about it.

 

Quigs, I have no relationship with SEE-ANN, and you know what. The guy fails at style. He tries too hard.

[QuigleyDU]

> @Ferguson said:

> > @QuigleyDU said:

> > > @Ferguson said:

> > > > @ebrasmus21 said:

> > > > > @QuigleyDU said:

> > > > > > @lowheel said:

> > > > > > > @Ferguson said:

> > > > > > > > @QuigleyDU said:

> > > > > > > > > @Ferguson said:

> > > > > > > > > > @QuigleyDU said:

> > > > > > > > > > I don't know as I am not super familiar with what Foley teach's, but I feel do feel he gets a bad rap that may be undeserved.

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> > > > > > > > > I think the bad rap comes from a caustic blend of off-the-shelf golf clothes mixed with high fashion glasses, an individualistic coiffure and that certain polarizing aura of neoteric swagger.

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> > > > > > > > Lots of big words there pilgram. We be but simple folk round here...

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> > > > > He is a little old to be acting like a millennial isn't he?

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> > > > https://media.giphy.com/media/RdKjAkFTNZkWUGyRXF/giphy.gif

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> > > Operative word in that question..................."acting."

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> > > That statement is an insult to all millennials.

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> > > Driven by a caffeinated attitude, Sean is a windbag thespian pointed in a direction less toward his students’ progressive development and more toward an insatiable desire to fuel his ever-growing devotion of the self.

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> > well, all I can say is you must have a much closer relationship with him than I do. I know so very little about him personally I cannot make such judgments. I can joke about his dress manor, or his man bag, but that is about it.

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> Quigs, I have no relationship with SEE-ANN, and you know what. The guy fails at style. He tries too hard.

 

I don't know that. There are people with pretty wide circles on here. I try not to assume to much. I didn't think you did, but I don't/didn't know...

[Fairway14]

Haney and Foley both road Tiger's coattails to fame and fortune.

For actual helpful golf technique instruction, Tiger learned from his childhood teacher Rudy Duran and ( in his teenage years) , Butch Harmon. Tiger's fundamentals were so sound that not even charlatans like Haney and Foley could do permanent damage.

[OrangeGravy]

> @QuigleyDU said:

> > @lowheel said:

> > > @Ferguson said:

> > > > @QuigleyDU said:

> > > > > @Ferguson said:

> > > > > > @QuigleyDU said:

> > > > > > I don't know as I am not super familiar with what Foley teach's, but I feel do feel he gets a bad rap that may be undeserved.

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> > > > > I think the bad rap comes from a caustic blend of off-the-shelf golf clothes mixed with high fashion glasses, an individualistic coiffure and that certain polarizing aura of neoteric swagger.

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> > > > Lots of big words there pilgram. We be but simple folk round here...

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> He is a little old to be acting like a millennial isn't he?

 

Is that an old Quakerstate oil logo tattoo?

[Ferguson]

> @OrangeGravy said:

> > @QuigleyDU said:

> > > @lowheel said:

> > > > @Ferguson said:

> > > > > @QuigleyDU said:

> > > > > > @Ferguson said:

> > > > > > > @QuigleyDU said:

> > > > > > > I don't know as I am not super familiar with what Foley teach's, but I feel do feel he gets a bad rap that may be undeserved.

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> > > > > > I think the bad rap comes from a caustic blend of off-the-shelf golf clothes mixed with high fashion glasses, an individualistic coiffure and that certain polarizing aura of neoteric swagger.

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> > > > > Lots of big words there pilgram. We be but simple folk round here...

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> > > > Methinks I summed it up nicely.

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> > He is a little old to be acting like a millennial isn't he?

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> Is that an old Quakerstate oil logo tattoo?

 

It’s only there to “look like” the Quakerstate logo. In other words, reminiscent of the bearer, it’s a façade for something else.

 

 

I think his tat should read: D-K E

(Dunning-Kruger Effect)

[Santiago Golf]

> @Fairway14 said:

> > @LICC said:Is Sean Foley ruining this kid?

> Probably yes, Foley is hurting Cameron Champ.

> The best instructors keep things simple, such as teaching grip, posture and alignment. Butch Harmon's great success with Tour players is mostly do to him teaching the good sense time tested fundamentals, which he learned from his father. Jack Nicklaus instructor Jack Grout was the same way.

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Lol, Butch works on a lot more than grip, posture, and alignment. Those arent really fundementals, everyone does them differently, who is right? Butch is a good communicator and gets his players in a good spot mentally more than anything.

 

This kid has played 1 year on tour and isnt even as great as people thought. Jordan Spieth hasnt won in 2.5 years, should he fir his coach? Akshay just missed the cut in his pro debut, might as well fire his coach.

 

Its not Sean Foley fault Cameron cant hit a iron shot

[Noke]

> @Ferguson said:

> > @QuigleyDU said:

> > > @Ferguson said:

> > > > @QuigleyDU said:

> > > > I don't know as I am not super familiar with what Foley teach's, but I feel do feel he gets a bad rap that may be undeserved.

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> > > I think the bad rap comes from a caustic blend of off-the-shelf golf clothes mixed with high fashion glasses, an individualistic coiffure and that certain polarizing aura of neoteric swagger.

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> > Lots of big words there pilgram. We be but simple folk round here...

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> Methinks I summed it up nicely.

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Methinks you're a judgmental doof.

[bladehunter]

> @PowderedToastMan said:

> > @BottleCap said:

> > As an American I don't like Foley because he's from the Pretentious North, but he's gotten Champ this far. Who's to say Champ isn't just a cart barn runt at this point without Foley.

>

> Well, you are officially the first person in the world to refer to Canada as the “pretentious north”.

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Nah. I’m pretty sure Jordan Peterson has used a combo of those words on the prime minister at some point. And he’s from the pretentious north.

 

( totally kidding the Canadian friends?).

 

[Noke]

> @bladehunter said:

> > @PowderedToastMan said:

> > > @BottleCap said:

> > > As an American I don't like Foley because he's from the Pretentious North, but he's gotten Champ this far. Who's to say Champ isn't just a cart barn runt at this point without Foley.

> >

> > Well, you are officially the first person in the world to refer to Canada as the “pretentious north”.

> >

> >

> Nah. I’m pretty sure Jordan Peterson has used a combo of those words on the prime minister at some point. And he’s from the pretentious north.

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> ( totally kidding the Canadian friends?).

>

 

Jordan Peterson ?

 

What a nonsensical irrational pseudo guru.

 

He is secretly from Mississippi. We need to see his birth certificate. RELEASE IT!!

 

 

[ebrasmus21]

> @Noke said:

> > @bladehunter said:

> > > @PowderedToastMan said:

> > > > @BottleCap said:

> > > > As an American I don't like Foley because he's from the Pretentious North, but he's gotten Champ this far. Who's to say Champ isn't just a cart barn runt at this point without Foley.

> > >

> > > Well, you are officially the first person in the world to refer to Canada as the “pretentious north”.

> > >

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> > Nah. I’m pretty sure Jordan Peterson has used a combo of those words on the prime minister at some point. And he’s from the pretentious north.

> >

> > ( totally kidding the Canadian friends?).

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> Jordan Peterson ?

>

> What a nonsensical irrational pseudo guru.

>

> He is secretly from Mississippi. We need to see his birth certificate. RELEASE IT!!

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Interesting take.

 

[bladehunter]

> @ebrasmus21 said:

> > @Noke said:

> > > @bladehunter said:

> > > > @PowderedToastMan said:

> > > > > @BottleCap said:

> > > > > As an American I don't like Foley because he's from the Pretentious North, but he's gotten Champ this far. Who's to say Champ isn't just a cart barn runt at this point without Foley.

> > > >

> > > > Well, you are officially the first person in the world to refer to Canada as the “pretentious north”.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > Nah. I’m pretty sure Jordan Peterson has used a combo of those words on the prime minister at some point. And he’s from the pretentious north.

> > >

> > > ( totally kidding the Canadian friends?).

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> > Jordan Peterson ?

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> > What a nonsensical irrational pseudo guru.

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> > He is secretly from Mississippi. We need to see his birth certificate. RELEASE IT!!

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> Interesting take.

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But not a shocking one. lol

[farmer]

I can show CC how to hit it shorter.

[ebrasmus21]

> @bladehunter said:

> > @ebrasmus21 said:

> > > @Noke said:

> > > > @bladehunter said:

> > > > > @PowderedToastMan said:

> > > > > > @BottleCap said:

> > > > > > As an American I don't like Foley because he's from the Pretentious North, but he's gotten Champ this far. Who's to say Champ isn't just a cart barn runt at this point without Foley.

> > > > >

> > > > > Well, you are officially the first person in the world to refer to Canada as the “pretentious north”.

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> > > > >

> > > > Nah. I’m pretty sure Jordan Peterson has used a combo of those words on the prime minister at some point. And he’s from the pretentious north.

> > > >

> > > > ( totally kidding the Canadian friends?).

> > > >

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> > > Jordan Peterson ?

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> > > What a nonsensical irrational pseudo guru.

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> > > He is secretly from Mississippi. We need to see his birth certificate. RELEASE IT!!

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> > Interesting take.

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> But not a shocking one. lol

 

Is it too much to ask for a trigger-warning?

[Ferguson]

> @Noke said:

> > @Ferguson said:

> > > @QuigleyDU said:

> > > > @Ferguson said:

> > > > > @QuigleyDU said:

> > > > > I don't know as I am not super familiar with what Foley teach's, but I feel do feel he gets a bad rap that may be undeserved.

> > > >

> > > > I think the bad rap comes from a caustic blend of off-the-shelf golf clothes mixed with high fashion glasses, an individualistic coiffure and that certain polarizing aura of neoteric swagger.

> > >

> > > Lots of big words there pilgram. We be but simple folk round here...

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> > Methinks I summed it up nicely.

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> Methinks you're a judgmental doof.

 

Expound, please. Are you a supporter of Foley's teaching style or fashion sensibility?

Or, do you just come here point fingers and truncate words?

 

 

 

[ALIF]

Foley, isn’t that a catheter?

[Langlands]

Sean Foley has been working with Danny Willett and he is doing well, so he can't be that bad a coach. I don't imagine Tiger Woods would have chosen to work with him either if he didn't think he knew what he was doing.

[LICC]

> @Langlands said:

> Sean Foley has been working with Danny Willett and he is doing well, so he can't be that bad a coach. I don't imagine Tiger Woods would have chosen to work with him either if he didn't think he knew what he was doing.

 

Tiger dumped him after not too long and stopped using his swing techniques

[Ignatius Reilly]

> @LICC said:

> > @Langlands said:

> > Sean Foley has been working with Danny Willett and he is doing well, so he can't be that bad a coach. I don't imagine Tiger Woods would have chosen to work with him either if he didn't think he knew what he was doing.

>

> Tiger dumped him after not too long and stopped using his swing techniques

 

"Not too long"? He was with Foley for about 4 years.

 

Tiger had the choice of any golf instructor in the world, and he chose Foley.

 

I'm not some crazy Foley Fanatic, but those are the facts and they're in Foley's favour.

[MK7Golf21]

> @"Ignatius Reilly" said:

> > @LICC said:

> > > @Langlands said:

> > > Sean Foley has been working with Danny Willett and he is doing well, so he can't be that bad a coach. I don't imagine Tiger Woods would have chosen to work with him either if he didn't think he knew what he was doing.

> >

> > Tiger dumped him after not too long and stopped using his swing techniques

>

> "Not too long"? He was with Foley for about 4 years.

>

> Tiger had the choice of any golf instructor in the world, and he chose Foley.

>

> I'm not some crazy Foley Fanatic, but those are the facts and they're in Foley's favor

 

Tiger chose him because Foley was popular on tour at the time because his students were doing very well... Rose, Mahan,

 

 

[LICC]

> @"Ignatius Reilly" said:

> > @LICC said:

> > > @Langlands said:

> > > Sean Foley has been working with Danny Willett and he is doing well, so he can't be that bad a coach. I don't imagine Tiger Woods would have chosen to work with him either if he didn't think he knew what he was doing.

> >

> > Tiger dumped him after not too long and stopped using his swing techniques

>

> "Not too long"? He was with Foley for about 4 years.

>

> Tiger had the choice of any golf instructor in the world, and he chose Foley.

>

> I'm not some crazy Foley Fanatic, but those are the facts and they're in Foley's favour.

 

And Tiger dumped him and stopped using his swing techniques. Not sure how you can think those are facts in Foley's favor.

[QuigleyDU]

> @LICC said:

> > @Langlands said:

> > Sean Foley has been working with Danny Willett and he is doing well, so he can't be that bad a coach. I don't imagine Tiger Woods would have chosen to work with him either if he didn't think he knew what he was doing.

>

> Tiger dumped him after not too long and stopped using his swing techniques

 

He also had a 4 or 5 win season under Foley. So....

[caseFSU]

> @QuigleyDU said:

> > @LICC said:

> > > @Langlands said:

> > > Sean Foley has been working with Danny Willett and he is doing well, so he can't be that bad a coach. I don't imagine Tiger Woods would have chosen to work with him either if he didn't think he knew what he was doing.

> >

> > Tiger dumped him after not too long and stopped using his swing techniques

>

> He also had a 4 or 5 win season under Foley. So....

 

He also had 3-4 back surgeries under Foley.

[QuigleyDU]

> @caseFSU said:

> > @QuigleyDU said:

> > > @LICC said:

> > > > @Langlands said:

> > > > Sean Foley has been working with Danny Willett and he is doing well, so he can't be that bad a coach. I don't imagine Tiger Woods would have chosen to work with him either if he didn't think he knew what he was doing.

> > >

> > > Tiger dumped him after not too long and stopped using his swing techniques

> >

> > He also had a 4 or 5 win season under Foley. So....

>

> He also had 3-4 back surgeries under Foley.

 

I think that would have happened anyway, but I do not know that. he has had at least that many since and multiple issues and surgeries before. He has had more major surgeries than any golfer really should.

[Ignatius Reilly]

> @LICC said:

> > @"Ignatius Reilly" said:

> > > @LICC said:

> > > > @Langlands said:

> > > > Sean Foley has been working with Danny Willett and he is doing well, so he can't be that bad a coach. I don't imagine Tiger Woods would have chosen to work with him either if he didn't think he knew what he was doing.

> > >

> > > Tiger dumped him after not too long and stopped using his swing techniques

> >

> > "Not too long"? He was with Foley for about 4 years.

> >

> > Tiger had the choice of any golf instructor in the world, and he chose Foley.

> >

> > I'm not some crazy Foley Fanatic, but those are the facts and they're in Foley's favour.

>

> And Tiger dumped him and stopped using his swing techniques. Not sure how you can think those are facts in Foley's favor.

 

Tiger chose him.

 

I think Tiger knows quite a lot about golf.

 

Tiger dumped Butch, many people think Butch was pretty good.

 

If not Butch, Haney, Foley, Como.... who else could he call? He went without a coach for a while, and I think he even won once or twice FWIW.....