2020 ZOZO Championship

[grm24]

> @golfnoob25 said:

> Still want to know if Tiger is the only player to start bogey bogey bogey and go on to win...

 

Yes. At least since 1983.

https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/27945812/tiger-woods-takes-82nd-pga-tour-title-tying-sam-snead-atop-list

 

Then he opened the tournament Thursday with three consecutive bogeys -- according to Elias, no player dating to 1983 has gone on to win a tournament after doing that -- and you figured it might be a struggle for him to be respectable.

 

 

Then there is this.

 

 

[b.helts]

> @Mych said:

> > @Golfnutgalen said:

> > > @"Darth Putter" said:

> > >

> >

> > I like this, but it's a tad unfair to the competition because they played a ton after their prime. Here's a list to age 45, or 46 when it benefits the player:

> >

> > 1. Ben Hogan (46) 1932-1959 - 64 wins in 270 events (23.70%)

> > 2. Tiger Woods (43) 1992-2019 - 82 wins in 359 events (22.8%)

> > 3. Sam Snead (45) 1931-1958 - 78 wins in 366 events (21.31%)

> > 4. Byron Nelson (45) 1933-1957 - 52 wins in 264 events (19.70%)

> > 5. Jack Nicklaus (46) 1957-1986 - 73 wins in 456 events (16.01%)

> > 6. Gene Sarazen (45) 1920-1946 - 39 wins in 261 events (14.94%)

> > 7. Arnold Palmer (45) 1949-1974 - 62 wins in 524 events (11.83%)

> > 8. Cary Middlecoff (45) 1945-1966 - 40 wins in 338 events (11.83%)

> > 9. Billy Casper (45) 1954-1977 - 51 wins in 512 events (9.96%)

> > 10. Vijay Singh (45) 1992-2008 - 34 wins in 410 events (8.29%)

> > 11. Phil Mickelson (45) 1991-2015 - 42 wins in 529 events (7.94%)

> > 12. Dustin Johnson (35) 2007-2019 - 20 wins in 260 events (7.70%)

> > 13. Tom Watson (45) 1971-1995 - 37 wins in 530 events (6.98%)

> > 14. Greg Norman (45) 1979-2000 - 20 wins in 298 events (6.71%)

> > 15. Lee Trevino (45) 1962-1985 - 29 wins in 441 events (6.58%)

> >

> >

> > I couldn't find the info on Henry Picard and I'm sure there are a few others I'm missing which aren't listed in the PGA website database. Suffice it to say Tiger is crazy good.

>

> Very interesting... Snead win percentage before age 45 was 21%... but only 2% (4 of 219) after age 45.

 

It is. It’s like he had a full journeyman’s career after he turned 45. Amazing.

[Golfnutgalen]

> @Mych said:

> Very interesting... Snead win percentage before age 45 was 21%... but only 2% (4 of 219) after age 45.

 

Better than most to be fair, most don't win at all after 45 and Snead was competing in events in his 70s. He finished Tied 3rd at the PGA Championship at age 62, just 3 shots behind 35 year old Trevino! I mean Vijay Singh who holds the record for most wins in his 40s - 22 - has 0 after age 45. About that age has proven to be the normal cutoff for PGA Tour careers.

[Mych]

> @Golfnutgalen said:

> > @Mych said:

> > Very interesting... Snead win percentage before age 45 was 21%... but only 2% (4 of 219) after age 45.

>

> Better than most to be fair, most don't win at all after 45 and Snead was competing in events in his 70s. He finished Tied 3rd at the PGA Championship at age 62, just 3 shots behind 35 year old Trevino! I mean Vijay Singh who holds the record for most wins in his 40s - 22 - has 0 after age 45. About that age has proven to be the normal cutoff for PGA Tour careers.

 

That's kinda why it was interesting to me. The discussion of Tiger chasing Jack really boils down to him winning 3 Majors in the next 2-3 seasons, after which the odds become very unfavorable. When the challenge is framed that way it is much more daunting.

[bscinstnct]

> @"b.helts" said:

> > @Mych said:

> > > @Golfnutgalen said:

> > > > @"Darth Putter" said:

> > > >

> > >

> > > I like this, but it's a tad unfair to the competition because they played a ton after their prime. Here's a list to age 45, or 46 when it benefits the player:

> > >

> > > 1. Ben Hogan (46) 1932-1959 - 64 wins in 270 events (23.70%)

> > > 2. Tiger Woods (43) 1992-2019 - 82 wins in 359 events (22.8%)

> > > 3. Sam Snead (45) 1931-1958 - 78 wins in 366 events (21.31%)

> > > 4. Byron Nelson (45) 1933-1957 - 52 wins in 264 events (19.70%)

> > > 5. Jack Nicklaus (46) 1957-1986 - 73 wins in 456 events (16.01%)

> > > 6. Gene Sarazen (45) 1920-1946 - 39 wins in 261 events (14.94%)

> > > 7. Arnold Palmer (45) 1949-1974 - 62 wins in 524 events (11.83%)

> > > 8. Cary Middlecoff (45) 1945-1966 - 40 wins in 338 events (11.83%)

> > > 9. Billy Casper (45) 1954-1977 - 51 wins in 512 events (9.96%)

> > > 10. Vijay Singh (45) 1992-2008 - 34 wins in 410 events (8.29%)

> > > 11. Phil Mickelson (45) 1991-2015 - 42 wins in 529 events (7.94%)

> > > 12. Dustin Johnson (35) 2007-2019 - 20 wins in 260 events (7.70%)

> > > 13. Tom Watson (45) 1971-1995 - 37 wins in 530 events (6.98%)

> > > 14. Greg Norman (45) 1979-2000 - 20 wins in 298 events (6.71%)

> > > 15. Lee Trevino (45) 1962-1985 - 29 wins in 441 events (6.58%)

> > >

> > >

> > > I couldn't find the info on Henry Picard and I'm sure there are a few others I'm missing which aren't listed in the PGA website database. Suffice it to say Tiger is crazy good.

> >

> > Very interesting... Snead win percentage before age 45 was 21%... but only 2% (4 of 219) after age 45.

>

> It is. It’s like he had a full journeyman’s career after he turned 45. Amazing.

 

I think Snead struggled with putting yips and assume they got progressively worse as he got older. But he remained a very good ball striker well into his 50s and was still able to compete pretty well considering how poor his putting was.

[redfirebird08]

> @Mych said:

> > @Golfnutgalen said:

> > > @Mych said:

> > > Very interesting... Snead win percentage before age 45 was 21%... but only 2% (4 of 219) after age 45.

> >

> > Better than most to be fair, most don't win at all after 45 and Snead was competing in events in his 70s. He finished Tied 3rd at the PGA Championship at age 62, just 3 shots behind 35 year old Trevino! I mean Vijay Singh who holds the record for most wins in his 40s - 22 - has 0 after age 45. About that age has proven to be the normal cutoff for PGA Tour careers.

>

> That's kinda why it was interesting to me. The discussion of Tiger chasing Jack really boils down to him winning 3 Majors in the next 2-3 seasons, after which the odds become very unfavorable. When the challenge is framed that way it is much more daunting.

 

Health is a huge factor. If he can stay healthy, I would not be shocked to see him win a green jacket in his late 40's or even 50's. Nicklaus dang near won the jacket at age 58 on bad hips.

[Ferguson]

> @Mych said:

> > @Golfnutgalen said:

> > > @"Darth Putter" said:

> > >

> >

> > I like this, but it's a tad unfair to the competition because they played a ton after their prime. Here's a list to age 45, or 46 when it benefits the player:

> >

> > 1. Ben Hogan (46) 1932-1959 - 64 wins in 270 events (23.70%)

> > 2. Tiger Woods (43) 1992-2019 - 82 wins in 359 events (22.8%)

> > 3. Sam Snead (45) 1931-1958 - 78 wins in 366 events (21.31%)

> > 4. Byron Nelson (45) 1933-1957 - 52 wins in 264 events (19.70%)

> > 5. Jack Nicklaus (46) 1957-1986 - 73 wins in 456 events (16.01%)

> > 6. Gene Sarazen (45) 1920-1946 - 39 wins in 261 events (14.94%)

> > 7. Arnold Palmer (45) 1949-1974 - 62 wins in 524 events (11.83%)

> > 8. Cary Middlecoff (45) 1945-1966 - 40 wins in 338 events (11.83%)

> > 9. Billy Casper (45) 1954-1977 - 51 wins in 512 events (9.96%)

> > 10. Vijay Singh (45) 1992-2008 - 34 wins in 410 events (8.29%)

> > 11. Phil Mickelson (45) 1991-2015 - 42 wins in 529 events (7.94%)

> > 12. Dustin Johnson (35) 2007-2019 - 20 wins in 260 events (7.70%)

> > 13. Tom Watson (45) 1971-1995 - 37 wins in 530 events (6.98%)

> > 14. Greg Norman (45) 1979-2000 - 20 wins in 298 events (6.71%)

> > 15. Lee Trevino (45) 1962-1985 - 29 wins in 441 events (6.58%)

> >

> >

> > I couldn't find the info on Henry Picard and I'm sure there are a few others I'm missing which aren't listed in the PGA website database. Suffice it to say Tiger is crazy good.

>

> Very interesting... Snead win percentage before age 45 was 21%... but only 2% (4 of 219) after age 45.

 

 

 

 

Let's just say anything in double digits is outstanding.

[bscinstnct]

> @redfirebird08 said:

> > @Mych said:

> > > @Golfnutgalen said:

> > > > @Mych said:

> > > > Very interesting... Snead win percentage before age 45 was 21%... but only 2% (4 of 219) after age 45.

> > >

> > > Better than most to be fair, most don't win at all after 45 and Snead was competing in events in his 70s. He finished Tied 3rd at the PGA Championship at age 62, just 3 shots behind 35 year old Trevino! I mean Vijay Singh who holds the record for most wins in his 40s - 22 - has 0 after age 45. About that age has proven to be the normal cutoff for PGA Tour careers.

> >

> > That's kinda why it was interesting to me. The discussion of Tiger chasing Jack really boils down to him winning 3 Majors in the next 2-3 seasons, after which the odds become very unfavorable. When the challenge is framed that way it is much more daunting.

>

> Health is a huge factor. If he can stay healthy, I would not be shocked to see him win a green jacket in his late 40's or even 50's. Nicklaus dang near won the jacket at age 58 on bad hips.

 

And how about

 

 

 

 

 

[bscinstnct]

Win #1

 

 

 

Win #82

 

 

 

**And just a few interesting things happened in between ; )**

[idrive]

I don't think the Tour - the Japanese, the whole Golf World in general could have had a more successful Tournament in virtually every way possible, other than the rain.

 

Seemed to be a bit of grumbling surrounding this Tourny. Turned out to be quite a hit. Will be interesting to see if Tiger defends next year.

[Darth Putter]

> @idrive said:

> I don't think the Tour - the Japanese, the whole Golf World in general could have had a more successful Tournament in virtually every way possible, other than the rain.

>

> Seemed to be a bit of grumbling surrounding this Tourny. Turned out to be quite a hit. Will be interesting to see if Tiger defends next year.

 

 

The good news is, if they do get hit with a typhoon again, they know the course can handle it.

 

That grounds crew also deserves a trophy.

[Stanks]

Great tournament. Extremely well ran. Grounds crew deserves a high five at least. Going from flood to perfection.

[Darth Putter]

> @grm24 said:

> > @golfnoob25 said:

> > Still want to know if Tiger is the only player to start bogey bogey bogey and go on to win...

>

> Yes. At least since 1983.

> https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/27945812/tiger-woods-takes-82nd-pga-tour-title-tying-sam-snead-atop-list

>

> Then he opened the tournament Thursday with three consecutive bogeys -- according to Elias, no player dating to 1983 has gone on to win a tournament after doing that -- and you figured it might be a struggle for him to be respectable.

>

>

> Then there is this.

>

>

>

 

I would guess the last time it happened was in a pre World War II major and the hole by hole scores are now lost to history.

[mocokid]

> @"b.helts" said:

> > @Mych said:

> > > @Golfnutgalen said:

> > > > @"Darth Putter" said:

> > > >

> > >

> > > I like this, but it's a tad unfair to the competition because they played a ton after their prime. Here's a list to age 45, or 46 when it benefits the player:

> > >

> > > 1. Ben Hogan (46) 1932-1959 - 64 wins in 270 events (23.70%)

> > > 2. Tiger Woods (43) 1992-2019 - 82 wins in 359 events (22.8%)

> > > 3. Sam Snead (45) 1931-1958 - 78 wins in 366 events (21.31%)

> > > 4. Byron Nelson (45) 1933-1957 - 52 wins in 264 events (19.70%)

> > > 5. Jack Nicklaus (46) 1957-1986 - 73 wins in 456 events (16.01%)

> > > 6. Gene Sarazen (45) 1920-1946 - 39 wins in 261 events (14.94%)

> > > 7. Arnold Palmer (45) 1949-1974 - 62 wins in 524 events (11.83%)

> > > 8. Cary Middlecoff (45) 1945-1966 - 40 wins in 338 events (11.83%)

> > > 9. Billy Casper (45) 1954-1977 - 51 wins in 512 events (9.96%)

> > > 10. Vijay Singh (45) 1992-2008 - 34 wins in 410 events (8.29%)

> > > 11. Phil Mickelson (45) 1991-2015 - 42 wins in 529 events (7.94%)

> > > 12. Dustin Johnson (35) 2007-2019 - 20 wins in 260 events (7.70%)

> > > 13. Tom Watson (45) 1971-1995 - 37 wins in 530 events (6.98%)

> > > 14. Greg Norman (45) 1979-2000 - 20 wins in 298 events (6.71%)

> > > 15. Lee Trevino (45) 1962-1985 - 29 wins in 441 events (6.58%)

> > >

> > >

> > > I couldn't find the info on Henry Picard and I'm sure there are a few others I'm missing which aren't listed in the PGA website database. Suffice it to say Tiger is crazy good.

> >

> > Very interesting... Snead win percentage before age 45 was 21%... but only 2% (4 of 219) after age 45.

>

> It is. It’s like he had a full journeyman’s career after he turned 45. Amazing.

 

journeyman??, only 4 wins after 45? LOLOL.....

[b.helts]

> @mocokid said:

> > @"b.helts" said:

> > > @Mych said:

> > > > @Golfnutgalen said:

> > > > > @"Darth Putter" said:

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > I like this, but it's a tad unfair to the competition because they played a ton after their prime. Here's a list to age 45, or 46 when it benefits the player:

> > > >

> > > > 1. Ben Hogan (46) 1932-1959 - 64 wins in 270 events (23.70%)

> > > > 2. Tiger Woods (43) 1992-2019 - 82 wins in 359 events (22.8%)

> > > > 3. Sam Snead (45) 1931-1958 - 78 wins in 366 events (21.31%)

> > > > 4. Byron Nelson (45) 1933-1957 - 52 wins in 264 events (19.70%)

> > > > 5. Jack Nicklaus (46) 1957-1986 - 73 wins in 456 events (16.01%)

> > > > 6. Gene Sarazen (45) 1920-1946 - 39 wins in 261 events (14.94%)

> > > > 7. Arnold Palmer (45) 1949-1974 - 62 wins in 524 events (11.83%)

> > > > 8. Cary Middlecoff (45) 1945-1966 - 40 wins in 338 events (11.83%)

> > > > 9. Billy Casper (45) 1954-1977 - 51 wins in 512 events (9.96%)

> > > > 10. Vijay Singh (45) 1992-2008 - 34 wins in 410 events (8.29%)

> > > > 11. Phil Mickelson (45) 1991-2015 - 42 wins in 529 events (7.94%)

> > > > 12. Dustin Johnson (35) 2007-2019 - 20 wins in 260 events (7.70%)

> > > > 13. Tom Watson (45) 1971-1995 - 37 wins in 530 events (6.98%)

> > > > 14. Greg Norman (45) 1979-2000 - 20 wins in 298 events (6.71%)

> > > > 15. Lee Trevino (45) 1962-1985 - 29 wins in 441 events (6.58%)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I couldn't find the info on Henry Picard and I'm sure there are a few others I'm missing which aren't listed in the PGA website database. Suffice it to say Tiger is crazy good.

> > >

> > > Very interesting... Snead win percentage before age 45 was 21%... but only 2% (4 of 219) after age 45.

> >

> > It is. It’s like he had a full journeyman’s career after he turned 45. Amazing.

>

> journeyman??, only 4 wins after 45? LOLOL.....

 

I’m not sure what you’re getting at.

 

Speak plainly, please.

[mocokid]

> @"b.helts" said:

> > @mocokid said:

> > > @"b.helts" said:

> > > > @Mych said:

> > > > > @Golfnutgalen said:

> > > > > > @"Darth Putter" said:

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I like this, but it's a tad unfair to the competition because they played a ton after their prime. Here's a list to age 45, or 46 when it benefits the player:

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. Ben Hogan (46) 1932-1959 - 64 wins in 270 events (23.70%)

> > > > > 2. Tiger Woods (43) 1992-2019 - 82 wins in 359 events (22.8%)

> > > > > 3. Sam Snead (45) 1931-1958 - 78 wins in 366 events (21.31%)

> > > > > 4. Byron Nelson (45) 1933-1957 - 52 wins in 264 events (19.70%)

> > > > > 5. Jack Nicklaus (46) 1957-1986 - 73 wins in 456 events (16.01%)

> > > > > 6. Gene Sarazen (45) 1920-1946 - 39 wins in 261 events (14.94%)

> > > > > 7. Arnold Palmer (45) 1949-1974 - 62 wins in 524 events (11.83%)

> > > > > 8. Cary Middlecoff (45) 1945-1966 - 40 wins in 338 events (11.83%)

> > > > > 9. Billy Casper (45) 1954-1977 - 51 wins in 512 events (9.96%)

> > > > > 10. Vijay Singh (45) 1992-2008 - 34 wins in 410 events (8.29%)

> > > > > 11. Phil Mickelson (45) 1991-2015 - 42 wins in 529 events (7.94%)

> > > > > 12. Dustin Johnson (35) 2007-2019 - 20 wins in 260 events (7.70%)

> > > > > 13. Tom Watson (45) 1971-1995 - 37 wins in 530 events (6.98%)

> > > > > 14. Greg Norman (45) 1979-2000 - 20 wins in 298 events (6.71%)

> > > > > 15. Lee Trevino (45) 1962-1985 - 29 wins in 441 events (6.58%)

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I couldn't find the info on Henry Picard and I'm sure there are a few others I'm missing which aren't listed in the PGA website database. Suffice it to say Tiger is crazy good.

> > > >

> > > > Very interesting... Snead win percentage before age 45 was 21%... but only 2% (4 of 219) after age 45.

> > >

> > > It is. It’s like he had a full journeyman’s career after he turned 45. Amazing.

> >

> > journeyman??, only 4 wins after 45? LOLOL.....

>

> I’m not sure what you’re getting at.

>

> Speak plainly, please.

 

Analytical irony about Snead stats.

[b.helts]

> @mocokid said:

> > @"b.helts" said:

> > > @mocokid said:

> > > > @"b.helts" said:

> > > > > @Mych said:

> > > > > > @Golfnutgalen said:

> > > > > > > @"Darth Putter" said:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I like this, but it's a tad unfair to the competition because they played a ton after their prime. Here's a list to age 45, or 46 when it benefits the player:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. Ben Hogan (46) 1932-1959 - 64 wins in 270 events (23.70%)

> > > > > > 2. Tiger Woods (43) 1992-2019 - 82 wins in 359 events (22.8%)

> > > > > > 3. Sam Snead (45) 1931-1958 - 78 wins in 366 events (21.31%)

> > > > > > 4. Byron Nelson (45) 1933-1957 - 52 wins in 264 events (19.70%)

> > > > > > 5. Jack Nicklaus (46) 1957-1986 - 73 wins in 456 events (16.01%)

> > > > > > 6. Gene Sarazen (45) 1920-1946 - 39 wins in 261 events (14.94%)

> > > > > > 7. Arnold Palmer (45) 1949-1974 - 62 wins in 524 events (11.83%)

> > > > > > 8. Cary Middlecoff (45) 1945-1966 - 40 wins in 338 events (11.83%)

> > > > > > 9. Billy Casper (45) 1954-1977 - 51 wins in 512 events (9.96%)

> > > > > > 10. Vijay Singh (45) 1992-2008 - 34 wins in 410 events (8.29%)

> > > > > > 11. Phil Mickelson (45) 1991-2015 - 42 wins in 529 events (7.94%)

> > > > > > 12. Dustin Johnson (35) 2007-2019 - 20 wins in 260 events (7.70%)

> > > > > > 13. Tom Watson (45) 1971-1995 - 37 wins in 530 events (6.98%)

> > > > > > 14. Greg Norman (45) 1979-2000 - 20 wins in 298 events (6.71%)

> > > > > > 15. Lee Trevino (45) 1962-1985 - 29 wins in 441 events (6.58%)

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I couldn't find the info on Henry Picard and I'm sure there are a few others I'm missing which aren't listed in the PGA website database. Suffice it to say Tiger is crazy good.

> > > > >

> > > > > Very interesting... Snead win percentage before age 45 was 21%... but only 2% (4 of 219) after age 45.

> > > >

> > > > It is. It’s like he had a full journeyman’s career after he turned 45. Amazing.

> > >

> > > journeyman??, only 4 wins after 45? LOLOL.....

> >

> > I’m not sure what you’re getting at.

> >

> > Speak plainly, please.

>

> Analytical irony about Snead stats.

 

You are either not understanding the point of my post or are being purposefully obtuse.

 

You gotta be who you gotta be, I’m ok with that. I just wanted to make sure I understood what you insinuating before I came to a conclusion.

[MattyO1984]

> @bscinstnct said:

> > @redfirebird08 said:

> > > @Mych said:

> > > > @Golfnutgalen said:

> > > > > @Mych said:

> > > > > Very interesting... Snead win percentage before age 45 was 21%... but only 2% (4 of 219) after age 45.

> > > >

> > > > Better than most to be fair, most don't win at all after 45 and Snead was competing in events in his 70s. He finished Tied 3rd at the PGA Championship at age 62, just 3 shots behind 35 year old Trevino! I mean Vijay Singh who holds the record for most wins in his 40s - 22 - has 0 after age 45. About that age has proven to be the normal cutoff for PGA Tour careers.

> > >

> > > That's kinda why it was interesting to me. The discussion of Tiger chasing Jack really boils down to him winning 3 Majors in the next 2-3 seasons, after which the odds become very unfavorable. When the challenge is framed that way it is much more daunting.

> >

> > Health is a huge factor. If he can stay healthy, I would not be shocked to see him win a green jacket in his late 40's or even 50's. Nicklaus dang near won the jacket at age 58 on bad hips.

>

> And how about

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

Sick in my mouth looking at that picture!! I am not sure if it is recalling Cink beating old Tom or the colour of Cink’s shirt. Either way I am blaming Cink!!

[Ferguson]

This is cool.

 

 

 

 

 

[bscinstnct]

> @Ferguson said:

> This is cool.

>

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>

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>

>

 

 

[Ferguson]

A couple of guys that fell, and fell hard.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[j.b.newton]

> @bscinstnct said:

> Win #1

>

>

>

>

> Win #82

>

>

>

>

> **And just a few interesting things happened in between ; )**

 

 

is the one on his left (our right) a dude?

[jonsnow]

"Dude looks like a lady..."--Steven Tyler

[A.Princey]

> @Ferguson said:

> This is cool.

>

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>

>

>

Also cool to note how he was clipping off wins in multiples of 10 every year to year & a half. Then, insert "troubles", and the 9 year struggle to go 10+ again. My God, what he should have achieved.

 

In the end, after all the smoke clears, one could make the case that he was both the best and most underachieving athlete of all time.

 

[Christosterone]

Byron Nelson retired at age 34...his win % was ludicrous when he retired...

I have Lord Byron, Tiger ad Jack as tied for the greatest ever when at their peak...

And I don’t think it’s close...Bobby Jones is in second...

 

Nobody curb stomped people like Nelson, Tiger and Jack...

 

-Chris

 

> @Golfnutgalen said:

> > @"Darth Putter" said:

> >

>

> I like this, but it's a tad unfair to the competition because they played a ton after their prime. Here's a list to age 45, or 46 when it benefits the player:

>

> 1. Ben Hogan (46) 1932-1959 - 64 wins in 270 events (23.70%)

> 2. Tiger Woods (43) 1992-2019 - 82 wins in 359 events (22.8%)

> 3. Sam Snead (45) 1931-1958 - 78 wins in 366 events (21.31%)

> 4. Byron Nelson (45) 1933-1957 - 52 wins in 264 events (19.70%)

> 5. Jack Nicklaus (46) 1957-1986 - 73 wins in 456 events (16.01%)

> 6. Gene Sarazen (45) 1920-1946 - 39 wins in 261 events (14.94%)

> 7. Arnold Palmer (45) 1949-1974 - 62 wins in 524 events (11.83%)

> 8. Cary Middlecoff (45) 1945-1966 - 40 wins in 338 events (11.83%)

> 9. Billy Casper (45) 1954-1977 - 51 wins in 512 events (9.96%)

> 10. Vijay Singh (45) 1992-2008 - 34 wins in 410 events (8.29%)

> 11. Phil Mickelson (45) 1991-2015 - 42 wins in 529 events (7.94%)

> 12. Dustin Johnson (35) 2007-2019 - 20 wins in 260 events (7.70%)

> 13. Tom Watson (45) 1971-1995 - 37 wins in 530 events (6.98%)

> 14. Greg Norman (45) 1979-2000 - 20 wins in 298 events (6.71%)

> 15. Lee Trevino (45) 1962-1985 - 29 wins in 441 events (6.58%)

>

>

> I couldn't find the info on Henry Picard and I'm sure there are a few others I'm missing which aren't listed in the PGA website database. Suffice it to say Tiger is crazy good.

 

 

[Ferguson]

> @"A.Princey" said:

> > @Ferguson said:

> > This is cool.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> Also cool to note how he was clipping off wins in multiples of 10 every year to year & a half. Then, insert "troubles", and the 9 year struggle to go 10+ again. My God, what he should have achieved.

>

> In the end, after all the smoke clears, one could make the case that he was both the best and most underachieving athlete of all time.

>

 

 

When you think about it, the "troubles" and the "injuries" make The Tiger Story even more compelling.

 

I'm talking about the future story that one day he will be renowned as the greatest individual athlete ever to walk the face of the earth.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[bscinstnct]

> @Ferguson said:

> > @"A.Princey" said:

> > > @Ferguson said:

> > > This is cool.

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> > Also cool to note how he was clipping off wins in multiples of 10 every year to year & a half. Then, insert "troubles", and the 9 year struggle to go 10+ again. My God, what he should have achieved.

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> > In the end, after all the smoke clears, one could make the case that he was both the best and most underachieving athlete of all time.

> >

>

>

> When you think about it, the "troubles" and the "injuries" make The Tiger Story even more compelling.

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> I'm talking about the future story that one day he will be renowned as the greatest individual athlete ever to walk the face of the earth.

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Someone posted a chart of Jack, TW, and Sneads wins by age. Eyeballing it but it looked like TW had 70 wins by his early 30s and Jack and Snead took took til very late 30s and 40s to get there.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Golfnutgalen]

Here are the win percentages up the age 43 season. I may have missed some players and intentionally excluded anyone under age 30. Still it's a good grouping filled with familiar names.

 


 

 

 

[redfirebird08]

> @Christosterone said:

> Byron Nelson retired at age 34...his win % was ludicrous when he retired...

> I have Lord Byron, Tiger ad Jack as tied for the greatest ever when at their peak...

> And I don’t think it’s close...Bobby Jones is in second...

>

> Nobody curb stomped people like Nelson, Tiger and Jack...

>

> -Chris

>

> > @Golfnutgalen said:

> > > @"Darth Putter" said:

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> >

> > I like this, but it's a tad unfair to the competition because they played a ton after their prime. Here's a list to age 45, or 46 when it benefits the player:

> >

> > 1. Ben Hogan (46) 1932-1959 - 64 wins in 270 events (23.70%)

> > 2. Tiger Woods (43) 1992-2019 - 82 wins in 359 events (22.8%)

> > 3. Sam Snead (45) 1931-1958 - 78 wins in 366 events (21.31%)

> > 4. Byron Nelson (45) 1933-1957 - 52 wins in 264 events (19.70%)

> > 5. Jack Nicklaus (46) 1957-1986 - 73 wins in 456 events (16.01%)

> > 6. Gene Sarazen (45) 1920-1946 - 39 wins in 261 events (14.94%)

> > 7. Arnold Palmer (45) 1949-1974 - 62 wins in 524 events (11.83%)

> > 8. Cary Middlecoff (45) 1945-1966 - 40 wins in 338 events (11.83%)

> > 9. Billy Casper (45) 1954-1977 - 51 wins in 512 events (9.96%)

> > 10. Vijay Singh (45) 1992-2008 - 34 wins in 410 events (8.29%)

> > 11. Phil Mickelson (45) 1991-2015 - 42 wins in 529 events (7.94%)

> > 12. Dustin Johnson (35) 2007-2019 - 20 wins in 260 events (7.70%)

> > 13. Tom Watson (45) 1971-1995 - 37 wins in 530 events (6.98%)

> > 14. Greg Norman (45) 1979-2000 - 20 wins in 298 events (6.71%)

> > 15. Lee Trevino (45) 1962-1985 - 29 wins in 441 events (6.58%)

> >

> >

> > I couldn't find the info on Henry Picard and I'm sure there are a few others I'm missing which aren't listed in the PGA website database. Suffice it to say Tiger is crazy good.

>

>

 

Hogan's peak was arguably better than anyone. He won 6 of 8 major starts, which is absurd.

[Hawkeye77]

> @MattyO1984 said:

> > @bscinstnct said:

> > > @redfirebird08 said:

> > > > @Mych said:

> > > > > @Golfnutgalen said:

> > > > > > @Mych said:

> > > > > > Very interesting... Snead win percentage before age 45 was 21%... but only 2% (4 of 219) after age 45.

> > > > >

> > > > > Better than most to be fair, most don't win at all after 45 and Snead was competing in events in his 70s. He finished Tied 3rd at the PGA Championship at age 62, just 3 shots behind 35 year old Trevino! I mean Vijay Singh who holds the record for most wins in his 40s - 22 - has 0 after age 45. About that age has proven to be the normal cutoff for PGA Tour careers.

> > > >

> > > > That's kinda why it was interesting to me. The discussion of Tiger chasing Jack really boils down to him winning 3 Majors in the next 2-3 seasons, after which the odds become very unfavorable. When the challenge is framed that way it is much more daunting.

> > >

> > > Health is a huge factor. If he can stay healthy, I would not be shocked to see him win a green jacket in his late 40's or even 50's. Nicklaus dang near won the jacket at age 58 on bad hips.

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> > And how about

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> Sick in my mouth looking at that picture!! I am not sure if it is recalling Cink beating old Tom or the colour of Cink’s shirt. Either way I am blaming Cink!!

 

Yep, watched all of rounds three and four and by the back nine on Sunday was believing it would happen - then . . . . it didn't. Ugh.