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I still have the G400 driver, 3wd and 5wd in the bag. I have played them for a while now but its time to move on. I did get fit for the driver a year and a half ago, but tue shaft they put me in hit it high and draw, but in the right rough or sometimes behind a big piece of furniture. I sold the shaft and messed with a few others. Being the heavier heads I firmly believe they require a cb shaft...anything other than that feels like a sledge hammer.

 

3wd and 5wd are surprisingly louder than the driver. I hate the sound, performance is pretty good. Best sounding fairway I've has is the 906f4 with VS Proto 80, just heavenly and seriously contemplating putting it back in the bag.

 

The SIM intrigues me, especially the sound. I have always had a soft spot for titleist.

 

What have people replaced these with when they moved on?

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If you fit properly into your current G400's, you're not going to gain anything by changing.  Yes, there could be a psychological benefit with new clubs, but not performance.  I like to change stuff n

Still using G400 Max driver and 5 wood. Will try G425 LST & MAX when they are out in the USA. G400 MAX is very forgiving and pretty long too.

Yeah but the g400 is what....3 years old?  A golf ho can't own something that old. 

The G400 drivers are tough to beat, so unless it reall isn't working then I wouldnt worry about changing it.  I played the G400 3w and it was stupid easy to hit, I loved it for that reason, but I tried a Titleist 917f 16.5* and man, it sounds better and it longer by at least 10 yards....  Loved the g400 but like the performance of the Titleist.

Titleist TSi2 9* Tensei AV 65 Raw White

Titleist 917f2 16.5* Aldila Rogue silver 70s

Titleist 915h 21* Aldila Rogue black 85s

Titleist 718 CB 4-P PX LZ 6.0

Titleist Vokey SM6 54/10, SM7 58/8

Ping Anser Milled 2

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G410’s. I could have kept the 400 driver but the 3w was quite possibly the worst club I’ve ever hit. 410 is leaps and bounds better. 

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Ping G410 LST Ventus Black 6x
Ping G410 LST AD-DI 7x
Ping G410 20* Crossover PX EvenFlow Black 85HY 6.5
Ping iBlade 4-PW PX LZ 6.5
Glide Stealth 2.0 52/56/60 TI S400
Ping Sigma 2 Tyne Steath, Stealth shaft. PP58 Black Cord
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1 hour ago, Nixhex524 said:

The G400 drivers are tough to beat, so unless it reall isn't working then I wouldnt worry about changing it.  I played the G400 3w and it was stupid easy to hit, I loved it for that reason, but I tried a Titleist 917f 16.5* and man, it sounds better and it longer by at least 10 yards....  Loved the g400 but like the performance of the Titleist.

 

Yeah but the g400 is what....3 years old?  A golf ho can't own something that old. 

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Callaway Rogue 9.0* driver reg
Callaway Rogue 3 & 5 fw woods reg
Callaway Rogue X 4,5 hybrids reg
Callaway Rogue X 6-Aw irons
Ping Glide 52* & 58*
Ping CrazE putter
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SIM driver - longer and more workable due to less spin and more ballspeed (G400 is in travel bag)

ST190 -> M5 3w (SIM Ti or PXG Gen 2 soon) - couldn't get the G400 fwy's to compete

PXG hybrid - loved the 19* G400 hybrid but needed less distance.  22* G400 wasn't neutral weighting so found my first PXG and it's surprisingly good.  (G400 is in travel bag)

 

If you need forgiveness as a priority, I would look at Ping's 410 fwy/hybrid and 425 Driver.  They keep making such great clubs!

 

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SIM 9*, Accra RPG 472 M5+, 46"
M5 15*, Graphite Design AD-DI 8X, 43"
PXG Gen 2 22*, Accra TZx M5, 40"

HMB 4i (22*) Modus 125X
MP20 5-P, Modus 130X
T20 50*7, 54*8,60*6 Modus Wedge 125
Toulon San Diego 33.5"
Srixon XV, or Tour BX/S 

Occasionally throw in a DI over the hybrid, 3i HMB (18*) KBS Proto 85X

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16 minutes ago, aussieb said:

SIM driver - longer and more workable due to less spin and more ballspeed (G400 is in travel bag)

ST190 -> M5 3w (SIM Ti or PXG Gen 2 soon) - couldn't get the G400 fwy'sto compete

PXG hybrid - loved the 19* G400 hybrid but needed less distance.  22* G400 wasn't neutral weighting so found my first PXG and it's surprisingly good.  (G400 is in travel bag)

 

If you need forgiveness as a priority, I would look at Ping's 410 fwy/hybrid and 425 Driver.  They keep making such great clubs!

 

I would agree the SIM is probably longer but less spin would actually make it less workable. Curvature is the result of spin. 

Ping G410 LST Ventus Black 6x
Ping G410 LST AD-DI 7x
Ping G410 20* Crossover PX EvenFlow Black 85HY 6.5
Ping iBlade 4-PW PX LZ 6.5
Glide Stealth 2.0 52/56/60 TI S400
Ping Sigma 2 Tyne Steath, Stealth shaft. PP58 Black Cord
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Ping Hoofer Multicam

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If you fit properly into your current G400's, you're not going to gain anything by changing.  Yes, there could be a psychological benefit with new clubs, but not performance.  I like to change stuff now and then for the sake of change, not performance.  As they say, "your mileage may vary".

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16.5* Titleist TS2 FW

20* Titleist TS2 FW

22* TM M2 Hybrid

5~U Ping G710 w/recoils

54* Ping Glide 3.0 WS

58* Ping Glide 3.0 EYE2

Scotty Newport 2

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...and that is the question for the driver in particular. I was fitted at a very reputable business, and in the fitting it seemed great but out on the course after some time the shaft/club wanted to draw too much.

 

The fairways are another story, I HATE the sound. Performance wise they are very acceptable and with very good ball flight and consistency, but my god the sound. LOL

 

If anything I would keep the driver and toss in a hzrdus yellow 6.5...but the fairways have to go on feel/sound alone. Yes. Im fickle. 😎

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48 minutes ago, Sea-Hawks said:

You mean wait for the new stuff to come out?

I was holding out for the 410 Max which got COVID-19 into 2021.  I’ve seen the 425 Max and it’s worth the wait. 

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Jazz 3 wd Powercoil Stiff
Ping i20 3 Hyb 707H Stiff
TM R7 TP 3i Recoil 660 F3 +1/2"
X2 Hot 4_-PW Recoil 660 F3 +1/2"
Vokey SM2 52º cc, Ping ES 56º and ES 60º
Ping Sigma2 Valor at 34.75"
MCC Align Midsize

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3 hours ago, drvrwdge said:

I would agree the SIM is probably longer but less spin would actually make it less workable. Curvature is the result of spin. 


Curvature is a result of axis tilt, not "spin" specifically. The less spin a ball has, the less axis tilt is necessary to make it curve, hence lower spin drivers being technically more "workable". That is a double edged sword though, because "workable" and "unstable" are often used interchangeably there depending on the player and what their goal is. This is why the low spin bomber setup is always a tradeoff, because if low spin was also the straightest then there would be no reason to play anything else, which we know is not the case. 

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Titleist 915FD 14.25* Kuro Kage 80XTS || Taylormade SIM Ti 16* Kuro Kage 80XTS 
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8 hours ago, CaymanS said:

If you fit properly into your current G400's, you're not going to gain anything by changing.  Yes, there could be a psychological benefit with new clubs, but not performance.  I like to change stuff now and then for the sake of change, not performance.  As they say, "your mileage may vary".

So true. After trying a half dozen new drivers over the last two years (including the G410's), put a G400 LST back in my bag. Maybe could hit something like a SIM slightly farther, but it doesn't help when one misses fairways badly. The G400 line just works, and works well.

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It's really hard for me to think about changing any of my G400 woods. I don't care about sound when the ball goes where I want it. I am 68 years old and hit it past all my playing partners ( not only longer but much straighter ). Will I check out the 425? Of course but it will have to be a lot better than my 400 max for me to switch.

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3w Ping G400 Alta senior

5w Ping G400 Alta senior

7w Ping G400 Alta senior

9w Ping G400 Alta senior

5 - u wedge Ping G710 Irons Alta senior

Ping 54 Glide lob

Calloway 58 easy out sand wedge

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I tried to replace them, three of them came back in the bag .. and are not leaving until the 425’s come out of the desert


Ping G400 Max 10.5* Fubuki K 60x

Ping G400 5w 16.5* Blueboard 73x Ping G400 7w 19.5* Diamana B 80s

Callaway Apex 4h 23* Fubuki 82x Callaway Apex 5h 26* Mitsu KK 90s

Mizuno 919T 6 - PW UST Mamiya Recoil Prototype 95 f4
Vokey SM2 50*, SM2 TVD 56*M & 59*M, 64* Recoil Proto 95 f4

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Never cared for the FW's ( stock shafts not for me), but the the G400 Driver is still in the bag. Rotate shafts on occasion. Best driver I've ever had, as far as forgiveness goes. I'm sure it's not the longest, but my misses are still in play. I'll look at the G425 when it hits, or maybe a 410 when the prices come down later, but I was fitted by Ping into the G400/HZRDUS Yellow combo and was able to hit the G410 just before release the same day, and it wasn't any better for me.

I'm either a Callaway or Titleist fan when it comes to FW's.

I did move from Cally Apex to Ping G410 Hybrids, though.

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Ping G400 10.5 (9.75) Hzrdus Yellow 5.5 76 ( Atmos Blue TS 6 sometimes)
Callaway Rogue 17* 4wd Atmos Blue TS 70  
Ping G410 19*, 22* & 26* Tensei CK Pro Blue 80
Cobra Forged Tec Black 6-GW SteelFiber i95cw R (2019 Forged Tec SteelFiber i95cw R trial run ) 
Vokey SM7 54/8 M 
Mack Daddy PM 58/12
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Played the G400 LST and G400 5 wood. Both were ok, both spun too much. I think its pretty much consensus that G400 fairways were high spin for many. All of Ping's products have a rear CG design. Ping philosophy is forgiveness first which works for a vast majority of golfers. I have a flat to negative angle of attack with driver and fairways and have never had my best numbers with Ping stuff. Sim, Ts(i)3, Cally Sub Zero, Cobra will all have CG a little more forward, less spin, less forgiving. Obviously looks, sound and feel will play a role too. Not a fan of turbulators.

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I’m too low spin with low spin heads which is why I love these designs I guess

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Ping G400 Max 10.5* Fubuki K 60x

Ping G400 5w 16.5* Blueboard 73x Ping G400 7w 19.5* Diamana B 80s

Callaway Apex 4h 23* Fubuki 82x Callaway Apex 5h 26* Mitsu KK 90s

Mizuno 919T 6 - PW UST Mamiya Recoil Prototype 95 f4
Vokey SM2 50*, SM2 TVD 56*M & 59*M, 64* Recoil Proto 95 f4

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Went G410 3 and 5.  Easier to launch and sounded better.   Went to SIM Max 3 and 5 wood - much improved for me.  Better sound, feel, easier to flight, forgiving and long.  SIM Max are keepers. 

 
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  • Taylormade SIM Max 3w and 5w; AD XC 5S; 43” and 42”; D2
  • Titleist 818 H1 3H-21; Tensei CK Pro Blue 70S; 40”; D2 (alternates with 4i)
  • Mizuno MP 20 MMC 4-PW; KBS C-Taper Lite R; +1/4 (+1/2 @ grip end); D3-4
  • Titleist Vokey SM8 50F (bent 49) w KBS C-Taper Lite R PW; 54S and 58S w Modus 105 Wedge; all +1/2"; D4.5-5.5
  • Trying Cleveland CBX2 48 w KBS C-Taper Lite R PW; and CBX2 54 (bent 53) and CBX Full-Face 58 w PX 5.0
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I would vote for sticking what works. The 400 series is SO good.

 

I had a 400 Max.  It was the best driver I ever owned. I also had a 5-wood.  I sold them this spring after hitting the Cobra Speedzone Extreme.  But I regretted it a month later.  I had sold my 400 Max to a WRXer who had regretted selling his.  But he said he couldn't find the magic again and sold it back to me. It was the same for me. I swear it was like she was holding a grudge for splitting up.

 

I'm hitting the G410 LST now.  I love the feel and the ball flight.  I like it, but not quite as much as the G400 Max.

 

 

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Cleveland CBX Full Face 58*
Cleveland Frontline Elevado
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G400 max with the right shaft is near impossible combo to beat for straight + distance = total driving

 

I played the LST head for too long in my opinion


Ping G400 Max 10.5* Fubuki K 60x

Ping G400 5w 16.5* Blueboard 73x Ping G400 7w 19.5* Diamana B 80s

Callaway Apex 4h 23* Fubuki 82x Callaway Apex 5h 26* Mitsu KK 90s

Mizuno 919T 6 - PW UST Mamiya Recoil Prototype 95 f4
Vokey SM2 50*, SM2 TVD 56*M & 59*M, 64* Recoil Proto 95 f4

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59 minutes ago, cardoustie said:

G400 max with the right shaft is near impossible combo to beat for straight + distance = total driving

 

I played the LST head for too long in my opinion

 

Agreed for me. Fit into the g400max hzrdus yellow combo and all it does is find fairways way out there. Can't imagine switching out anytime soon.

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