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I still have the G400 driver, 3wd and 5wd in the bag. I have played them for a while now but its time to move on. I did get fit for the driver a year and a half ago, but tue shaft they put me in hit it high and draw, but in the right rough or sometimes behind a big piece of furniture. I sold the shaft and messed with a few others. Being the heavier heads I firmly believe they require a cb shaft...anything other than that feels like a sledge hammer.

 

3wd and 5wd are surprisingly louder than the driver. I hate the sound, performance is pretty good. Best sounding fairway I've has is the 906f4 with VS Proto 80, just heavenly and seriously contemplating putting it back in the bag.

 

The SIM intrigues me, especially the sound. I have always had a soft spot for titleist.

 

What have people replaced these with when they moved on?

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The G400 drivers are tough to beat, so unless it reall isn't working then I wouldnt worry about changing it.  I played the G400 3w and it was stupid easy to hit, I loved it for that reason, but I tried a Titleist 917f 16.5* and man, it sounds better and it longer by at least 10 yards....  Loved the g400 but like the performance of the Titleist.

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G410’s. I could have kept the 400 driver but the 3w was quite possibly the worst club I’ve ever hit. 410 is leaps and bounds better. 

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1 hour ago, Nixhex524 said:

The G400 drivers are tough to beat, so unless it reall isn't working then I wouldnt worry about changing it.  I played the G400 3w and it was stupid easy to hit, I loved it for that reason, but I tried a Titleist 917f 16.5* and man, it sounds better and it longer by at least 10 yards....  Loved the g400 but like the performance of the Titleist.

 

Yeah but the g400 is what....3 years old?  A golf ho can't own something that old. 

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SIM driver - longer and more workable due to less spin and more ballspeed (G400 is in travel bag)

ST190 -> M5 3w (SIM Ti or PXG Gen 2 soon) - couldn't get the G400 fwy's to compete

PXG hybrid - loved the 19* G400 hybrid but needed less distance.  22* G400 wasn't neutral weighting so found my first PXG and it's surprisingly good.  (G400 is in travel bag)

 

If you need forgiveness as a priority, I would look at Ping's 410 fwy/hybrid and 425 Driver.  They keep making such great clubs!

 

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16 minutes ago, aussieb said:

SIM driver - longer and more workable due to less spin and more ballspeed (G400 is in travel bag)

ST190 -> M5 3w (SIM Ti or PXG Gen 2 soon) - couldn't get the G400 fwy'sto compete

PXG hybrid - loved the 19* G400 hybrid but needed less distance.  22* G400 wasn't neutral weighting so found my first PXG and it's surprisingly good.  (G400 is in travel bag)

 

If you need forgiveness as a priority, I would look at Ping's 410 fwy/hybrid and 425 Driver.  They keep making such great clubs!

 

I would agree the SIM is probably longer but less spin would actually make it less workable. Curvature is the result of spin. 

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If you fit properly into your current G400's, you're not going to gain anything by changing.  Yes, there could be a psychological benefit with new clubs, but not performance.  I like to change stuff now and then for the sake of change, not performance.  As they say, "your mileage may vary".

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G425 Max.

 

You've waited 3 years.  Another few months won't kill you.

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...and that is the question for the driver in particular. I was fitted at a very reputable business, and in the fitting it seemed great but out on the course after some time the shaft/club wanted to draw too much.

 

The fairways are another story, I HATE the sound. Performance wise they are very acceptable and with very good ball flight and consistency, but my god the sound. LOL

 

If anything I would keep the driver and toss in a hzrdus yellow 6.5...but the fairways have to go on feel/sound alone. Yes. Im fickle. 😎

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48 minutes ago, Sea-Hawks said:

You mean wait for the new stuff to come out?

I was holding out for the 410 Max which got COVID-19 into 2021.  I’ve seen the 425 Max and it’s worth the wait. 

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3 hours ago, drvrwdge said:

I would agree the SIM is probably longer but less spin would actually make it less workable. Curvature is the result of spin. 


Curvature is a result of axis tilt, not "spin" specifically. The less spin a ball has, the less axis tilt is necessary to make it curve, hence lower spin drivers being technically more "workable". That is a double edged sword though, because "workable" and "unstable" are often used interchangeably there depending on the player and what their goal is. This is why the low spin bomber setup is always a tradeoff, because if low spin was also the straightest then there would be no reason to play anything else, which we know is not the case. 

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8 hours ago, CaymanS said:

If you fit properly into your current G400's, you're not going to gain anything by changing.  Yes, there could be a psychological benefit with new clubs, but not performance.  I like to change stuff now and then for the sake of change, not performance.  As they say, "your mileage may vary".

So true. After trying a half dozen new drivers over the last two years (including the G410's), put a G400 LST back in my bag. Maybe could hit something like a SIM slightly farther, but it doesn't help when one misses fairways badly. The G400 line just works, and works well.

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It's really hard for me to think about changing any of my G400 woods. I don't care about sound when the ball goes where I want it. I am 68 years old and hit it past all my playing partners ( not only longer but much straighter ). Will I check out the 425? Of course but it will have to be a lot better than my 400 max for me to switch.

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I tried to replace them, three of them came back in the bag .. and are not leaving until the 425’s come out of the desert

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Ping G400 7w 19.5* Ventus Red 6x

Ping G425 4h 22* Fuji TourSpec 8.2s

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Never cared for the FW's ( stock shafts not for me), but the the G400 Driver is still in the bag. Rotate shafts on occasion. Best driver I've ever had, as far as forgiveness goes. I'm sure it's not the longest, but my misses are still in play. I'll look at the G425 when it hits, or maybe a 410 when the prices come down later, but I was fitted by Ping into the G400/HZRDUS Yellow combo and was able to hit the G410 just before release the same day, and it wasn't any better for me.

I'm either a Callaway or Titleist fan when it comes to FW's.

I did move from Cally Apex to Ping G410 Hybrids, though.

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Played the G400 LST and G400 5 wood. Both were ok, both spun too much. I think its pretty much consensus that G400 fairways were high spin for many. All of Ping's products have a rear CG design. Ping philosophy is forgiveness first which works for a vast majority of golfers. I have a flat to negative angle of attack with driver and fairways and have never had my best numbers with Ping stuff. Sim, Ts(i)3, Cally Sub Zero, Cobra will all have CG a little more forward, less spin, less forgiving. Obviously looks, sound and feel will play a role too. Not a fan of turbulators.

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I’m too low spin with low spin heads which is why I love these designs I guess

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Went G410 3 and 5.  Easier to launch and sounded better.   Went to SIM Max 3 and 5 wood - much improved for me.  Better sound, feel, easier to flight, forgiving and long.  SIM Max are keepers. 

 
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I would vote for sticking what works. The 400 series is SO good.

 

I had a 400 Max.  It was the best driver I ever owned. I also had a 5-wood.  I sold them this spring after hitting the Cobra Speedzone Extreme.  But I regretted it a month later.  I had sold my 400 Max to a WRXer who had regretted selling his.  But he said he couldn't find the magic again and sold it back to me. It was the same for me. I swear it was like she was holding a grudge for splitting up.

 

I'm hitting the G410 LST now.  I love the feel and the ball flight.  I like it, but not quite as much as the G400 Max.

 

 

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G400 max with the right shaft is near impossible combo to beat for straight + distance = total driving

 

I played the LST head for too long in my opinion

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59 minutes ago, cardoustie said:

G400 max with the right shaft is near impossible combo to beat for straight + distance = total driving

 

I played the LST head for too long in my opinion

 

Agreed for me. Fit into the g400max hzrdus yellow combo and all it does is find fairways way out there. Can't imagine switching out anytime soon.

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