Rory switching to X7’s

[Zigzog]

Missed cut coming up, his first for ages - fair to say this has not worked out for him. 

[J13]

He is trying the X7's because of the new TP5X.  That info is straight Wade on the tour van.

[alecfeltman]

I like the x7 move. Soften the shots, flight the ball, easier to control. 
 

The missed cut was all swing... Not that I know anything about swing mechanics. I probably know the least. 
 

 

[MPAndreassi]

21 hours ago, mizuno player said:

Maybe he is prepping for firm fast greens for a tournament in April? 

 

I find it interesting if he only switched because of the ball. Why wouldn't he just keep using the old ball?  Or maybe the new ball is better with his driver? 

 

 

 

There must be something worthwhile in the new balls aerodynamics that make it worth switching for. The testing out there on YouTube shows the 5x spins a bit more than last year, while the 5 stayed about the same. He may be looking to go to the firmer ball for driver performance while swapping the shafts and keeping spin closer to the 5.

[PureStrikes54]

Not sure if he was testing a lot beforehand but would think he needs a good amount of range time to be proficient with this shaft change on a PGA tour setup. Even though the profiles are similar on paper the project x 7.0 literally has almost no kick feeling to it and is right "with you" like rebar the entire swing. The X7 has much more of a "laggy" feeling where the clubhead feels just a tiny bit behind the shaft you get with Dynamic Gold. Also going to take some more time to figure out his gapping numbers as the setup is going to behave differently in different winds and conditions  you see on the course. Riv with the small landing area, crazy firm, and undulating greens is just such a tough setup to put these in play on. 

[Fort Worth Pro]

In 4+ years since switching to TM he only has 5 worldwide wins and no majors. Given how well he drives it, how about we look into the TM irons, wedges, and ball being inferior to what he was playing before. 

[Golfrnut]

14 minutes ago, Fort Worth Pro said:

In 4+ years since switching to TM he only has 5 worldwide wins and no majors. Given how well he drives it, how about we look into the TM irons, wedges, and ball being inferior to what he was playing before. 

 

You think he has enough star power to pull a Tiger and have a different ball deal?  I would imagine BS would provide him a ball if he could do it.

[Pomps]

15 minutes ago, Golfrnut said:

 

You think he has enough star power to pull a Tiger and have a different ball deal?  I would imagine BS would provide him a ball if he could do it.

It is crazy to think what it could be with that swing, driving prowess and already proven ability to get it done on the biggest stage. Is it the TM clubs? The ball? Changes physically? Marriages/family? Did it come too easy initially and he got complacent? It’s not like he hasn’t played great golf at points and he has consistently stayed in the top rankings, but what could it be? The last 6 years from 26 to almost 32 should have been his absolute prime. I’m a big Rory fan but really can’t put my finger on it.

[Fort Worth Pro]

18 minutes ago, Golfrnut said:

 

You think he has enough star power to pull a Tiger and have a different ball deal?  I would imagine BS would provide him a ball if he could do it.

No. Probably not. Rzn platinum was such a good ball too. IMO the Bridgestone XS is almost as good. TM ain’t in same ballpark (Fowler hasn’t busted an egg since he switched either) With that said, I think for rory it’s more irons and wedges. He oughta have TM pick up the phone and call MT. Not like it hasn’t happened before. 

[Golfrnut]

4 minutes ago, Fort Worth Pro said:

No. Probably not. Rzn platinum was such a good ball too. IMO the Bridgestone XS is almost as good. TM ain’t in same ballpark (Fowler hasn’t busted an egg since he switched either) With that said, I think for rory it’s more irons and wedges. He oughta have TM pick up the phone and call MT. Not like it hasn’t happened before. 

You would almost think they would already prototype just about anything he wanted, no?  He’s had ‘proto’ stuff for ages. Could TM be standing in the way of that or he just hasn’t asked for the right things yet?  From the nosebleed seats, it sounds like he’s trying to band-aid a ball that just doesn’t work for him as well. Switching from X to standard last year, now switching iron shafts to dial in numbers...seems like a difficult way to go about it. 

[Golfrnut]

11 minutes ago, Pomps said:

It is crazy to think what it could be with that swing, driving prowess and already proven ability to get it done on the biggest stage. Is it the TM clubs? The ball? Changes physically? Marriages/family? Did it come too easy initially and he got complacent? It’s not like he hasn’t played great golf at points and he has consistently stayed in the top rankings, but what could it be? The last 6 years from 26 to almost 32 should have been his absolute prime. I’m a big Rory fan but really can’t put my finger on it.

Significant others...been complicating the game for centuries. 
 

*That’s a joke everyone...no need to freak out. 

[GolfTurkey]

1 hour ago, Fort Worth Pro said:

In 4+ years since switching to TM he only has 5 worldwide wins and no majors. Given how well he drives it, how about we look into the TM irons, wedges, and ball being inferior to what he was playing before. 

Interesting, DJ, Morikawa and Wolff seem to have done ok with TM but We don’t have comparison points for the young guys.

 

I’m surprised that guys with as much money as Rory would limit themselves to one manufacturer. It doesn’t necessarily have to be inferior, simply not as good a fit as one of the others e.g. what are the odds that TP5X or TP5 are the best fit for Rory out of the dozens of balls on the market?

[Fort Worth Pro]

6 minutes ago, GolfTurkey said:

Interesting, DJ, Morikawa and Wolff seem to have done ok with TM but We don’t have comparison points for the young guys.

 

I’m surprised that guys with as much money as Rory would limit themselves to one manufacturer. It doesn’t necessarily have to be inferior, simply not as good a fit as one of the others e.g. what are the odds that TP5X or TP5 are the best fit for Rory out of the dozens of balls on the market?

For good players it’s not always even a matter of “not as good” or best fit. If it’s different than what you were successful with even if it’s technically better it can make a player worse because it induces uncertainty and then they start trying to recreate the things they saw before and then they start making unconscious adjustments to technique. Brilliance of tiger is he always insisted that whenever he tests equipment it better do exactly what he expects it to do given the swing he made. He is making no adjustments for equipment particularly launch, and spin on irons and wedges. 

[Fort Worth Pro]

24 minutes ago, Golfrnut said:

You would almost think they would already prototype just about anything he wanted, no?  He’s had ‘proto’ stuff for ages. Could TM be standing in the way of that or he just hasn’t asked for the right things yet?  From the nosebleed seats, it sounds like he’s trying to band-aid a ball that just doesn’t work for him as well. Switching from X to standard last year, now switching iron shafts to dial in numbers...seems like a difficult way to go about it. 

He has always been a good team player and very agreeable. In reality he probably needs to be more demanding. Pull out a set from 2014 and play with them and see what’s different. 

[MPAndreassi]

30 minutes ago, Golfrnut said:

Significant others...been complicating the game for centuries. 
 

*That’s a joke everyone...no need to freak out. 

It’s funnier because it’s true, in most cases 

[Sef]

In my fitting last weekend the X7 and PX 7.0 were two of the shafts the fitter pulled. I’ve played the X7 before but was curious about the PX 7.0. The PX spun significantly less. It felt okay, had a decent kick, but was harsh on misses.

The X7 felt smooth and the numbers were similar to my X100’s with the exception that I could swing hard without snapping it left. The X7 was by far the best shaft in the drawer for me and I’m looking forward to getting them back in play, but it would be a huge change if I were coming from the PX like Rory is.

[Kylekoz17]

9 hours ago, Fort Worth Pro said:

He has always been a good team player and very agreeable. In reality he probably needs to be more demanding. Pull out a set from 2014 and play with them and see what’s different. 

Agreed.  I also don’t think he’s doing himself any favors trying to hit cuts all the time.  Much more success when it was predominantly draws.  He misses so many greens with wedges it makes no sense

[bigeasy]

Man with that talent should be able to win with any brand.

[youngwaldo]

10 hours ago, Sef said:

In my fitting last weekend the X7 and PX 7.0 were two of the shafts the fitter pulled. I’ve played the X7 before but was curious about the PX 7.0. The PX spun significantly less. It felt okay, had a decent kick, but was harsh on misses.

The X7 felt smooth and the numbers were similar to my X100’s with the exception that I could swing hard without snapping it left. The X7 was by far the best shaft in the drawer for me and I’m looking forward to getting them back in play, but it would be a huge change if I were coming from the PX like Rory is.

Where did you get your fitting that has a X7 as one of their shafts?

 

Wk

[jah7838]

12 hours ago, Fort Worth Pro said:

No. Probably not. Rzn platinum was such a good ball too. IMO the Bridgestone XS is almost as good. TM ain’t in same ballpark (Fowler hasn’t busted an egg since he switched either) With that said, I think for rory it’s more irons and wedges. He oughta have TM pick up the phone and call MT. Not like it hasn’t happened before. 

Rickie won the Phoenix Open in 2019 after switching to the TP5x. He’s been doing a lot more with his swing since then, so his issues probably aren’t all because of the golf ball. 

[Fort Worth Pro]

54 minutes ago, jah7838 said:

Rickie won the Phoenix Open in 2019 after switching to the TP5x. He’s been doing a lot more with his swing since then, so his issues probably aren’t all because of the golf ball. 

That was in the first month of the 2019 season. Adjustments to technique wouldn’t have started from equipment change yet. I know he has made some swing changes but you’ll never convince me some of it didn’t stem from adjusting to higher launch and lower spin from his ball and then changing shafts that came from that. 

[Sef]

1 hour ago, youngwaldo said:

Where did you get your fitting that has a X7 as one of their shafts?

 

Wk

PGA Superstore. You have to do the paid “Tour Van Experience” fitting, it’s not available as a shaft option for their regular on the floor fits. Upside if you order clubs the fitting cost is applied so essentially it’s still free if you’re able to make a choice and place your order.

[drbonesvt]

On 2/19/2021 at 10:34 PM, Fort Worth Pro said:

No. Probably not. Rzn platinum was such a good ball too. IMO the Bridgestone XS is almost as good. TM ain’t in same ballpark (Fowler hasn’t busted an egg since he switched either) With that said, I think for rory it’s more irons and wedges. He oughta have TM pick up the phone and call MT. Not like it hasn’t happened before. 

Dj and Rahm use the TMAG ball, no issues

 

haven’t looked at the stats, unquantified measure from the peripheral his putting sux 

 

followed by his 120 yd wedge game 

[drbonesvt]

22 hours ago, youngwaldo said:

Where did you get your fitting that has a X7 as one of their shafts?

 

Wk

 

I love my x7’s in both r9 tp B stamps txxxx and mb712

 

great in the wedges believe it or not - x100’s on steroids IMOP , with phenomenal feel , had c taper X 130 also, BUT the x7s aren’t simply a heavier x100

 

Major draw back for me x7 while had an amazing  sixth gear vs an x1 , they want to be hammered all the time.  Lastly 3-4 iron depending on the day where demanding clubs with those shafts in them.  Can’t say enough about them  In the wedges 

 

settled on x100 hard steeped 1 x time , nippon tour 125 x wedges 

Edited February 21, 2021 by drbonesvt

[CW13]

On 2/20/2021 at 10:09 AM, bigeasy said:

Man with that talent should be able to win with any brand.

Agreed for the most part. And it’s not like his irons/wedges are directly off the shelf either. But let’s say it is the equipment, this is the bed Rory made. He could have went as Brooks did and played whatever he wanted to focus on the best to win with but he chose the payday (rightfully so in every respect) to join TM. 

[Fort Worth Pro]

3 hours ago, drbonesvt said:

Dj and Rahm use the TMAG ball, no issues

 

haven’t looked at the stats, unquantified measure from the peripheral his putting sux 

 

followed by his 120 yd wedge game 

He has always struggled with the putter. Some years less than others. Other than 2019 his ball striking stats have been worse every year since switching. I think it’s a combo of ball change, wedge change, iron change, and as someone above said, trying to hit too many cuts. 

[drbonesvt]

6 minutes ago, Fort Worth Pro said:

He has always struggled with the putter. Some years less than others. Other than 2019 his ball striking stats have been worse every year since switching. I think it’s a combo of ball change, wedge change, iron change, and as someone above said, trying to hit too many cuts. 

I didn’t know about the shot shape change 

[MK7Golf21]

I still remember Rory blanketing pins in the 710mb irons

[Fort Worth Pro]

17 minutes ago, drbonesvt said:

I didn’t know about the shot shape change 

Mostly still draws it. Tries to play more fades than at his best. Not surprisingly tends to pull them. 

[tsecor]

On 2/18/2021 at 3:40 PM, ProjectX said:

True Temper owns both brands, so I'm sure they could care less which one he plays. 

it was a joke....