Mizuno MP-22

[cyr67]

On 10/18/2021 at 3:18 PM, oz dee cee said:

So when the Mizuno designer says the 223 is smaller than the MMC, what part does he mean? 

I hv no idea. The week before I had the ‘20 MMC’s in my hands with the 223. The 223 is huge, comparatively. The ‘20 MMC is closer to the T100.

[drbonesvt]

Pw smaller than Texas ????

 

feel of the mizzy’s vastly superior than the titleist’s I’ve had , but can’t ever get over why they make the the scoring irons clunkers 

 

the 681 as if they bring those to market 😳

[TLUBulldogGolf]

1 hour ago, drbonesvt said:

Pw smaller than Texas ????

 

feel of the mizzy’s vastly superior than the titleist’s I’ve had , but can’t ever get over why they make the the scoring irons clunkers 

 

the 681 as if they bring those to market 😳

 

They are a lot better than they used to be. I still went with a T-20 PW. 

[river11]

On 10/18/2021 at 5:44 PM, iNeedMoreGolf said:

In my mind i allways want the newest clubs to look great to me 1st and then if they perform great then great if not then thats a no go even if it looks perfect. I cannot play ugly clubs i just cant. I need to feel great about my clubs look. Its a look great feel great thing. I feel this offering doesnt look as good as the mp20 or jpx 21. I highly doubt they preform any better either... even if they did probably not by much. So thats my thoughts on it.

Yep and its not like you're gonna pick a horrible iron if you prioritize looks. Most irons are great, and look great. I bet the script might be a deal breaker for a decent amount of people actually. I personally dont mind the script, but I do think the 223 looks a lot worse than the MMC from 18 and 20. I liked the look of the MP 18 MMC the most. It looked the most like "this is a blade but we hot swapped tech into it"

Edited October 20, 2021 by river11

[Str8Putt]

On 10/18/2021 at 7:44 PM, iNeedMoreGolf said:

In my mind i allways want the newest clubs to look great to me 1st and then if they perform great then great if not then thats a no go even if it looks perfect. I cannot play ugly clubs i just cant. I need to feel great about my clubs look. Its a look great feel great thing. I feel this offering doesnt look as good as the mp20 or jpx 21. I highly doubt they preform any better either... even if they did probably not by much. So thats my thoughts on it.

 

I get what you're saying. Golf is a mental game and if you don't like something you're just not going to convince yourself that the club will perform. 

The script on the Miz 221 doesn't really bother me too much but I think it would be better if placed some where other than the toe. If Titleist had brought out those AS or JT blades that's been posted this year. I'd probably be picking those up instead of the Mizuno.

There's nothing like a nice classic clean looking blade. 

 

 

 

[iNeedMoreGolf]

2 hours ago, Str8Putt said:

 

I get what you're saying. Golf is a mental game and if you don't like something you're just not going to convince yourself that the club will perform. 

The script on the Miz 221 doesn't really bother me too much but I think it would be better if placed some where other than the toe. If Titleist had brought out those AS or JT blades that's been posted this year. I'd probably be picking those up instead of the Mizuno.

There's nothing like a nice classic clean looking blade. 

 

 

 

Yeah those jt titliest are too nice.

 

 

 

13 hours ago, river11 said:

Yep and its not like you're gonna pick a horrible iron if you prioritize looks. Most irons are great, and look great. I bet the script might be a deal breaker for a decent amount of people actually. I personally dont mind the script, but I do think the 223 looks a lot worse than the MMC from 18 and 20. I liked the look of the MP 18 MMC the most. It looked the most like "this is a blade but we hot swapped tech into it"

This is true mostly everything is at least decent...its basically just on looks and feel. The 18 and 20 mmc were miles ahead on looks vs these 223. Kinda odd but cant make beautys every year i guess lol 🤷

[Sourpuss]

On 10/17/2021 at 12:12 PM, JourdanM said:

Listen towards the end 

i can appreciate not releasing  a product if its not in stock. 

[CW13]

Am I the only one who thinks the script would look 10x better if the running bird mizuno logo was also black? 

[Trippels]

20 minutes ago, CW13 said:

Am I the only one who thinks the script would look 10x better if the running bird mizuno logo was also black? 

You are

[JourdanM]

I see a fli-hi 4 and 5-G 223 in my future

[Str8Putt]

2 hours ago, CW13 said:

Am I the only one who thinks the script would look 10x better if the running bird mizuno logo was also black? 

That would be an easy fix for a person...

Should've left the running bird on the muscle of the 221, move the script to the rear of the blade and put the 221 on the hosel 

[Trippels]

I wish they'd come out and say a blade is a blade, there's not much more to do, it's perfect now.

Stamp the running bird on the back, no text anywhere, keep making the same club 'till the end of days.

[SwingMan]

Too much ado about a logo and script ... seems so shallow. 🙃

[FOOTJOY16]

47 pages... I'm just ready to see them, hit them, then buy them.

[Trippels]

I wish my down swing was as shallow as I am.

[Str8Putt]

4 minutes ago, Trippels said:

I wish they'd come out and say a blade is a blade, there's not much more to do, it's perfect now.

Stamp the running bird on the back, no text anywhere, keep making the same club 'till the end of days.

LOL

Kinda like most Titleist blades.

Just has their name on the muscle back and model on the hosel...

Pure clean sexy

But agreed not much you can do with a blade other than using new material 

 

[cw1209]

31 minutes ago, Str8Putt said:

LOL

Kinda like most Titleist blades.

Just has their name on the muscle back and model on the hosel...

Pure clean sexy

But agreed not much you can do with a blade other than using new material 

 

 

That's what people are getting hung up about. There are few irons that have as much cachet as a Mizuno blade. There was never any need for script. Running bird stamp on the back and model on the hosel. You know its forged from the finest steel in all the land, no need to tell everyone on the hosel. At first I though people getting upset about the "Mizuno Pro" script was dumb, but I started to think "what if GMC put General Motors Company script on the back of their trucks?". Companies aim for brand recognition. Once you have it you can start dropping script. Look no further than Nike, McDonalds, or Starbucks. They don't need to tell you the name of the product anymore. Less is more. 

 

Anyway....hope this means my MP 20's will be collector items. The last "MP" irons ever made 😂

Edited October 20, 2021 by cw1209

[Str8Putt]

5 minutes ago, cw1209 said:

 

That's what people are getting hung up about. There are few irons that have as much cachet as a Mizuno blade. There was never any need for script. Running bird stamp on the back and model on the hosel. You know its forged from the finest steel in all the land, no need to tell everyone on the hosel. At first I though people getting upset about the "Mizuno Pro" script was dumb, but I started to think "what if GMC put General Motors Company script on the back of their trucks?". Companies aim for brand recognition. Once you have it you can start dropping script. Look no further than Nike, McDonalds, or Starbucks. They don't need to tell you the name of the product anymore. Less is more. 

I agree. I still plan to get the 221's maybe combo with 223 

but if they had went for a clean design like you said ie Titleist....man those would've looked sick

[PlayInTheRain]

26 minutes ago, cw1209 said:

 

... but I started to think "what if GMC put General Motors Company script on the back of their trucks?"....

 

Kinda like Ford back in the what? 1930s?

 

But seriously, I like the script on the 22x line of clubs. I just wish I had bought a set of MP20 MMCs last year (waited about a week too long and custom orders were closed) and didn't have to deal with the 223 design -- it seems to be trying to be both a classic Mizuno iron _and_ appeal to the supre-game-improvement crowd that likes all the 'go-fasters' that I would rather do without.

 

Actually considering a set of sub 70 blended cavity and blades at this point. Or a set of Miura CB-301s, though those would easily break the bank.

[SwingMan]

1 hour ago, Trippels said:

I wish my down swing was as shallow as I am.

Fortunately, you can repair both... reflect ... and shame, shame, come to mind.😅

[oz dee cee]

6 hours ago, iNeedMoreGolf said:

Yeah those jt titliest are too nice.

 

 

 

This is true mostly everything is at least decent...its basically just on looks and feel. The 18 and 20 mmc were miles ahead on looks vs these 223. Kinda odd but cant make beautys every year i guess lol 🤷

It’s all eye of the beholder stuff really. I rate the 223’s way about the 18/20 mmc’s. Cleaner and classier to my eye. 
 

I'm also a fan of the Mizuno pro label on all.

 

go figure hey

Edited October 20, 2021 by oz dee cee
Auto correct killing my life

[river11]

2 hours ago, Trippels said:

I wish they'd come out and say a blade is a blade, there's not much more to do, it's perfect now.

Stamp the running bird on the back, no text anywhere, keep making the same club 'till the end of days.

I mean.. haven't they? Aside from the copper plating, which came from old irons anyway. Feels like every reviewer, or even Chris when he talks to reviewers, all but say a blades a blade. He'll openly say the changes are subtle. Thats code for "if you're loaded, go ahead buy the latest and flex" and if you're budget conscious, dont bother

I have a set of MP32 that I've had for over 13 years lol.The 18s and 20s I've tried feel about the same. I'm not convinced blades have changed much after CAD became commonplace.

If I go with the 221s itll be because they look good and I want brand new clubs. But if I dont like the way they look I'm going to try to find MP5's or MP18s because I dont like the look of the MP20s and they might as well be the same club to most people

Edited October 20, 2021 by river11

[Str8Putt]

The script doesn't bother me now as much as it did at first but still think they should have gone for a cleaner classic look

I did these two MP221 real quick and IMO both look much nicer

 

Edited October 21, 2021 by Str8Putt

[TiScape]

Of all the irons that have been released, I’ve never seen a reaction like this to the cosmetics of a logo or writing. It’s crazy. Ping i59 thread on page 53 I think. I haven’t read a single post there about the placement or the font of the ‘i59’, ‘FORGED’ or ‘Ping’. 😂 

[NRJyzr]

30 minutes ago, Str8Putt said:

The script doesn't bother me now as much as it did at first but still think they should have gone for a cleaner classic look

I did these two MP221 real quick and IMO both look much nicer

 

 

Mizuno Pro *is* the classic look.   🙂

 

    

[TiScape]

9 minutes ago, NRJyzr said:

 

Mizuno Pro *is* the classic look.   🙂

 

    

These images are gonna trigger a lot of people! 🤣

[Bdck]

1 hour ago, Str8Putt said:

The script doesn't bother me now as much as it did at first but still think they should have gone for a cleaner classic look

I did these two MP221 real quick and IMO both look much nicer

 

Strip the paint fill on the Mizuno pro and add a copper fill to the running bird and you have something cooking my guy

[TiScape]

17 minutes ago, Bdck said:

Strip the paint fill on the Mizuno pro and add a copper fill to the running bird and you have something cooking my guy

This reminded me. I’m not sure they still offer it (I don’t think they do) but you use to be able to choose from several different iron finishes and paint fill colors. 
 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.golfmagic.com/news/equipment-news/mizuno-offers-custom-finishes-on-all-mp-iron-models/18682%3famp

[iNeedMoreGolf]

2 hours ago, Str8Putt said:

The script doesn't bother me now as much as it did at first but still think they should have gone for a cleaner classic look

I did these two MP221 real quick and IMO both look much nicer

 

Thats just soooo better then what they did. Thats a shame. I dont even mind the one in the heel but the no script one is best of course. Why the toe though geez? If u and i can figure out why cant the actual company?

[Str8Putt]

11 hours ago, TiScape said:

Of all the irons that have been released, I’ve never seen a reaction like this to the cosmetics of a logo or writing. It’s crazy. Ping i59 thread on page 53 I think. I haven’t read a single post there about the placement or the font of the ‘i59’, ‘FORGED’ or ‘Ping’. 😂 

That's because we all agree those Ping i59  cost too much and are ugly🤣

All jokes aside I won't buy any iron that has those screw or holes in the club head. It's a mental hangup for me, don't like it so I won't even consider an iron that has them

 

But to the i59 thread and nothing being said about the font placement. The Forged is to the rear and although the i59 is on the toe area it flows and the face still doesn't look busy. 

I'd think the fact that other clubs aren't getting talked about in this manner may something.

Either way. I guess at least from a Marketing stand point they're getting talked about for sure 😁

 

Edited October 21, 2021 by Str8Putt