Your 7 iron distance and shaft

[commoditybroker]

MP-20

34*

165-168 carry

s300

[Ri_Redneck]

15 hours ago, Double Dodger said:

Srixon 765. KBS CTaper 130x. Flat and no one wind 180 yards. 
 

As a side note, I’m 63 and have noticed no loss of yardage with my iron play but my driver and 3 fairway have lost about 25 yards over the last 4-5 years. Any of you other “old” guys follow this pattern? Seems the irons should be tapering off distance wise with the woods but I’m sure they are not long to follow.....

165y Mizuno MP5 34°, Aldila RIP Tour 115 R (actually a firm S for those familiar with this shaft). I'm 58 and considered old by rapscallions who don't know me. I actually hit my irons longer now than I did in my earlier days. Woods are about the same. I touch 110 CHS with the driver.

 

BT

[mcounci2]

MP18 MMC, Tensei White AV AM2 X, soft stepped 1x, 160yds.

[SchneakyShort]

S55, 32, 180, PX6.0 Flighted

[LukeDonaldsTiger]

6 hours ago, EDT501 said:

37.5* loft, 168 carry, KBS Tour 130x

What irons are you playing? 
I’m on mobile, can’t see your signature if it’s in that. 

[phizzy30]

185 yard carry.  MMT 125 TX.

[LukeDonaldsTiger]

Amazed by the numbers here. Happy there’s at least a few guys with equally pedestrian length as mine:

 

New Level 902 Forged

34 deg. 7i
153-158 y (140-145 m) carry, no roll

DG 120 X100

 

I love these shafts, they feel great. I wonder if anyone thinks X Stiff is wrong with my numbers, but I feel very comfortable and can feel the shaft load. I fight EE and the inevitable flip at impact to get to the ball.
 

High ballflight, loads of spin. S300 go too high and have more lateral dispersion for me. 

Don’t like the PX feel. 

 

[Krt22]

33* ZX7, 175 carry, Modus 120x

[EDT501]

42 minutes ago, LukeDonaldsTiger said:

What irons are you playing? 
I’m on mobile, can’t see your signature if it’s in that. 

Mizuno MP68s bent weak (my PW sits at 50*). I like having a little bit of extra bounce on the Mizuno soles and the reduced offset suits my eye. 

Edited April 1, 2021 by EDT501

[Pepperturbo]

35 minutes ago, LukeDonaldsTiger said:

Amazed by the numbers here. Happy there’s at least a few guys with equally pedestrian length as mine:

 

New Level 902 Forged

34 deg. 7i
153-158 y (140-145 m) carry, no roll

DG 120 X100

 

I love these shafts, they feel great. I wonder if anyone thinks X Stiff is wrong with my numbers, but I feel very comfortable and can feel the shaft load. I fight EE and the inevitable flip at impact to get to the ball.
 

High ballflight, loads of spin. S300 go too high and have more lateral dispersion for me. 

Don’t like the PX feel. 

 

As long as you have ball and distance control and YOU like the result, it doesn't matter what anyone thinks.  Those numbers have nothing to do with the flex, either. 

 

I could play other shafts, and stronger lofted more forgiving irons and realize greater distance.  But golf is NOT about distance it's about one's ability to golf his ball and score.

[mizunotpz]

This couldve been a very good posts for people wondering what shafts might suit them or what they would be looking at in a fitting, but people just have to present numbers that are inline with what the longest on tour presents.

Im like 145 meters carry with my 7 iron, i210, PX LZ 5.5.

[Krt22]

1 minute ago, mizunotpz said:

This couldve been a very good posts for people wondering what shafts might suit them or what they would be looking at in a fitting, but people just have to present numbers that are inline with what the longest on tour presents.

Im like 145 meters carry with my 7 iron, i210, PX LZ 5.5.

Not at all,  many people can hit with tour like length, that is far different than tour like consistency

 

I have a flightscope, my numbers are what they are. 

[mizunotpz]

4 minutes ago, Krt22 said:

Not at all,  many people can hit with tour like length, that is far different than tour like consistency

 

I have a flightscope, my numbers are what they are. 

I know that. I can hit it that far also, downwind. But if you look at general numbers from amateurs from Trackman you get more representative numbers. More true numbers. Its fine that people use this to brag, but its a pity cause it couldve been a very useful post for people who might not know as much about shafts.

[Krt22]

Just now, mizunotpz said:

I know that. I can hit it that far also, downwind. But if you look at general numbers from amateurs from Trackman you get more representative numbers. More true numbers. Its fine that people use this to brag, but its a pity cause it couldve been a very useful post for people who might not know as much about shafts.

This is a golf specific discussion board, you are going to see more high level players on here than your average swath of the golfing population. No need to try to discredit the entire thread and throw out baseless accusations just because some folks hit it farther than you. 

[mizunotpz]

1 minute ago, Krt22 said:

This is a golf specific discussion board, you are going to see more high level players on here than your average swath of the golfing population. No need to try to discredit the entire thread and throw out baseless accusations just because some folks hit it farther than you. 

I play with a lot of players during a season and a lot of the younger guys tells me they hit this and that on an LM and with their new driver they can hit it 300+ and on the course I notice very quickly they dont, and the biggest reason for that is they dont strike it very well. Theyre not much longer than me and they very often comes up short, never long. And yes, there are a few that can hit their 7 iron really long, but most of them who can dont, why, cause they want control and prefer to hit 80-90% shots. Real golf is different than perfect conditions on an LM, you need to get out there and play. I mean buying a Launch Monitor says a lot about whats important for you, and thats not real golf.

[Krt22]

1 minute ago, mizunotpz said:

I play with a lot of players during a season and a lot of the younger guys tells me they hit this and that on an LM and with their new driver they can hit it 300+ and on the course I notice very quickly they dont, and the biggest reason for that is they dont strike it very well. Theyre not much longer than me and they very often comes up short, never long. And yes, there are a few that can hit their 7 iron really long, but most of them who can dont, why, cause they want control and prefer to hit 80-90% shots. Real golf is different than perfect conditions on an LM, you need to get out there and play. I mean buying a Launch Monitor says a lot about whats important for you, and thats not real golf.

lol get real man, simply owning a LM does not tell some internet stranger anything about me or my game. Every player on tour has a LM, are you saying golf isn't important to them? A LM is just a tool, I play 2-3 times a week with very good players and they hit it as exactly as far as they think they do (as do I on well struck shots). One of the keys to being good at golf is knowing exactly how far you hit your clubs, launch monitors help with that dramatically.  I certainly didn't spend the money on the unit just so I could brag about it on the internet, give me a break.  

[mizunotpz]

5 minutes ago, Krt22 said:

lol get real man, simply owning a LM does not tell some internet stranger anything about me or my game. Every player on tour has a LM, are you saying golf isn't important to them? A LM is just a tool, I play 2-3 times a week with very good players and they hit it as exactly as far as they think they do (as do I on well struck shots). One of the keys to being good at golf is knowing exactly how far you hit your clubs, launch monitors help with that dramatically.  I certainly didn't spend the money on the unit just so I could brag about it on the internet, give me a break.  

Youre not a tour player! And having an LM wont make you one, it will only turn your focus onto the wrong things. Just watched a TXG video. A good channel, but sometimes they are really splitting hairs. Ian got over excited over getting half a degree extra height with a hybrid. How many extra birdies do you think that extra half degree will give him, out on the course, in real golf?

[EaglesGolf99]

7 Iron

34° Loft

185 Carry

Accra iSeries iCWT 105 Prototype X

 

[Krt22]

22 minutes ago, mizunotpz said:

Youre not a tour player! And having an LM wont make you one, it will only turn your focus onto the wrong things. Just watched a TXG video. A good channel, but sometimes they are really splitting hairs. Ian got over excited over getting half a degree extra height with a hybrid. How many extra birdies do you think that extra half degree will give him, out on the course, in real golf?

Your bruised ego is making you sound like a crazy person, how can you draw any conclusions about me or my game simply by the fact I own a LM?  And yes, 1-2 degrees of loft is important. Want to know why? Because when I hit my 7i and it carries exactly pin high but rolls out an extra 20+ feet, that is an issue, even more so on firm greens. I purposely bent my irons weak (sacrificing total distance) to get more height and spin , the LM just helps you find that window faster. For every club but driver you want the ball to land and stop in a reliable fashion. So yes, it absolutely can lead to better scoring since roll out varies from day to day and knowing your carry numbers is key.

[phizzy30]

8 minutes ago, Krt22 said:

Your bruised ego is making you sound like a crazy person, how can you draw any conclusions about me or my game simply by the fact I own a LM?  And yes, 1-2 degrees of loft is important. Want to know why? Because when I hit my 7i and it carries exactly pin high but rolls out an extra 20+ feet, that is an issue, even more so on firm greens. I purposely bent my irons weak (sacrificing total distance) to get more height and spin , the LM just helps you find that window faster. For every club but driver you want the ball to land and stop in a reliable fashion. So yes, it absolutely can lead to better scoring since roll out varies from day to day and knowing your carry numbers is key.

Absolutely agree.  I stand by my statement that I have posted before that loft then spin are the most important factors in proximity to hole with irons and the distance with driver  You can manipulate these numbers with different shafts and balls but it is very limited.  Loft is numero uno. 

Edited April 1, 2021 by phizzy30

[mizunotpz]

10 minutes ago, Krt22 said:

Your bruised ego is making you sound like a crazy person, how can you draw any conclusions about me or my game simply by the fact I own a LM?  And yes, 1-2 degrees of loft is important. Want to know why? Because when I hit my 7i and it carries exactly pin high but rolls out an extra 20+ feet, that is an issue, even more so on firm greens. I purposely bent my irons weak (sacrificing total distance) to get more height and spin , the LM just helps you find that window faster. For every club but driver you want the ball to land and stop in a reliable fashion. So yes, it absolutely can lead to better scoring since roll out varies from day to day and knowing your carry numbers is key.

I was talking about half a degree of launch. Ive heard the arguments you are making so many times. Yes, of course 2 degrees of loft will make a difference when it comes to knowing your numbers, but that wasnt something I disputed. But a good strike is even more important (especially outdoors on grass not on a matt with an LM beside you). So I would advice you to practise more on your swing mechanics (positioned based instruction) and instead of spending 20 hours a week on forums like this discussing what shaft you should use in your new driver, use 10 of those hours to practise your putting. That will deffo lower your score. Good Luck with that buddy!! 🙂

[TwistedSister]

Z765  32*  carry 150-55  with Recoil 660SC Regular hard stepped. 

[ChipNRun]

7i + 34* | distance ~ 140 yds. | Shaft KBS Tour 90 R-flex (parallel tip)

 

I put 3 grams lead tap on underside of shaft, at balance point just below grip; 4.5 grams on 8i, and 6 grams on 9i. This helps me get better drop and compression on shots, counterbalancing problem of parallel tip iron shafts get lighter as they get shorter. 

[Krt22]

3 minutes ago, mizunotpz said:

I was talking about half a degree of launch. Ive heard the arguments you are making so many times. Yes, of course 2 degrees of loft will make a difference when it comes to knowing your numbers, but that wasnt something I disputed. But a good strike is even more important (especially outdoors on grass not on a matt with an LM beside you). So I would advice you to practise more on your swing mechanics (positioned based instruction) and instead of spending 20 hours a week on forums like this discussing what shaft you should use in your new driver, use 10 of those hours to practise your putting. That will deffo lower your score. Good Luck with that buddy!! 🙂

Can you share any other unsolicited advice that has nothing to do with how far other's hit their 7 iron? 

[Krt22]

18 minutes ago, phizzy30 said:

Absolutely agree.  I stand by my statement that I have posted before that loft then spin are the most important factors in proximity to hole with irons and the distance with driver  You can manipulate these numbers with different shafts and balls but it is very limited.  Loft is numero uno. 

I have a loft lie machine in the garage as well. I wonder what that tells internet strangers about my practice routine. 

[mizunotpz]

1 minute ago, Krt22 said:

I have a loft lie machine in the garage as well. I wonder what that tells internet strangers about my practice routine. 

haha it tells me that youre obsessed with equipment instead of focusing on swing mechanics and your short game. And the fact that you talk about stopping powers on greens tells me you mostly play Launch Monitor golf were the green is always flat and you can switch to firm greens haha. On the courses I play I have to worry about greens that actually has some elevation to take into consideration.

[TwistedSister]

1 minute ago, Krt22 said:

I have a loft lie machine in the garage as well. I wonder what that tells internet strangers about my practice routine. 

Don't know about your practice routine  But it tells me i need to find out where you live. As much I have been tinkering my clubmaker has paid for his machine from my wallet!!😉🤣

[mizunotpz]

5 minutes ago, dhacker56 said:

Don't know about your practice routine  But it tells me i need to find out where you live. As much I have been tinkering my clubmaker has paid for his machine from my wallet!!😉🤣

And how much better at golf has all that tinkering made you? 🙂 Sorry, just had to ask.

[TwistedSister]

Look at my index,  Actually now it is 3.4   BTW I am nearly ready for Medicare!

[Gator5]

MP4 with DG120 stiff. As far as I need to get it close depending on conditions.

Edited April 2, 2021 by Gator5