Callaway 2022 Colors

[tbone18]

7 minutes ago, TheMoneyShot said:

Cally staying under the TM price point of $579, smart!

yes it is.  Plus I have heard the Rogue ST is to have some sort of cup face this year, but don't know if that is 100% true.

[NHenson815]

For the past couple years, I’ve had the impression (perhaps falsely) that Callaway is deliberately choosing secondary color schemes in the stock woods to encourage people to order from the custom shop.  I think men (in general) tend to gravitate towards primary colors, but I’m certainly not an expert on the impact of color on marketing.  

Orange/green on black are not ugly enough to dissuade someone from buying a Callaway driver if that person prefers Callaway woods (as I do), but the “just ok” aesthetics might get someone to spend the extra money to get a nicer color scheme from the custom shop.  I didn’t order from the custom shop this year, because the color selections were only for tiny markings on the club and not enough to justify paying more/waiting for it.

 

With that being said, I’m glad Callaway is going with a primary color in yellow/gold this year.  It looks much better than orange or green.

 

 

 

 

[third-times-a-charm]

6 hours ago, NHenson815 said:

For the past couple years, I’ve had the impression (perhaps falsely) that Callaway is deliberately choosing secondary color schemes in the stock woods to encourage people to order from the custom shop.  I think men (in general) tend to gravitate towards primary colors, but I’m certainly not an expert on the impact of color on marketing.  

Orange/green on black are not ugly enough to dissuade someone from buying a Callaway driver if that person prefers Callaway woods (as I do), but the “just ok” aesthetics might get someone to spend the extra money to get a nicer color scheme from the custom shop.  I didn’t order from the custom shop this year, because the color selections were only for tiny markings on the club and not enough to justify paying more/waiting for it.

 

With that being said, I’m glad Callaway is going with a primary color in yellow/gold this year.  It looks much better than orange or green.

 

 

 

 

 

Callaway has me on the hook due to CPO regardless of their color schemes. CPO is probably one of THE BEST business decisions by any OEM and it cannot be understated how much of a net positive it is for Callaway as a whole. The sales and their no questions asked trade-ins usually make for the best deals on the internet on clubs.

[Planet90]

Does all this mean a new Rogue range for 2022 with Epic Max and Speed discontinued?

[KParks]

2 hours ago, Planet90 said:

Does all this mean a new Rogue range for 2022 with Epic Max and Speed discontinued?

 

Yes. Callaway is on a year cycle (like TM) so the new 2022 Rogue will become the top of the line.

 

I believe Callaway usually keeps making some of the prior model as well (so each model is effectively in production for two years) with a price reduction but who knows if the supply chain issues may cause that Epic Max/Speed availability to be more limited (or if they will be available for custom orders or only for stock). Others surely know more about Callaways historical practices in that regard. 

[tbone18]

16 minutes ago, KParks said:

 

Yes. Callaway is on a year cycle (like TM) so the new 2022 Rogue will become the top of the line.

 

I believe Callaway usually keeps making some of the prior model as well (so each model is effectively in production for two years) with a price reduction but who knows if the supply chain issues may cause that Epic Max/Speed availability to be more limited (or if they will be available for custom orders or only for stock). Others surely know more about Callaways historical practices in that regard. 

Epic will continue through '22 but the price should drop around early spring.  Rogue ST officially is the replacement for MAVRIK.

[third-times-a-charm]

2 hours ago, KParks said:

 

Yes. Callaway is on a year cycle (like TM) so the new 2022 Rogue will become the top of the line.

 

I believe Callaway usually keeps making some of the prior model as well (so each model is effectively in production for two years) with a price reduction but who knows if the supply chain issues may cause that Epic Max/Speed availability to be more limited (or if they will be available for custom orders or only for stock). Others surely know more about Callaways historical practices in that regard. 

 

Wrong. Callaway is on a 2 year cycle and has 2 revolving lines that overlap by 1 year each.

 

One year they do the 'players' stuff like Apex/Epic and one year they do 'game improvement' stuff like Maverik/Rogue and Big Bertha.

Edited November 23, 2021 by third-times-a-charm

[KParks]

2 hours ago, third-times-a-charm said:

 

Wrong. Callaway is on a 2 year cycle and has 2 revolving lines that overlap by 1 year each.

 

One year they do the 'players' stuff like Apex/Epic and one year they do 'game improvement' stuff like Maverik/Rogue and Big Bertha.

 

I'll disagree with that. The Big Bertha line is a "GI" line separated from the main lines, but I don't think I'd call the Rogue/Mav/Rogue lines a "GI" line. It has historically been a line with less customization (i.e. hasn't usually had as many moveable weight options), but that doesn't make it a GI line. They produce each line for 2 years, but there is also always a current model year line (premium price) and a last year's model line (cheaper).

 

For example, I fully expect most of the Callaway tour staff to have a Rogue driver from the new line in play in 2022.**

 

I could have been clearer that the 2021 Epic's aren't being "discontinued", but they also won't be the current "top" driver from Callaway either. Callaway will definitely have some story about why the Rogue is better. 

 

(**Yes, many of the Callaway staff aren't playing retail heads, but that is true regardless of if it is an "Epic" year or a "Rogue" year). 

Edited November 23, 2021 by KParks

[third-times-a-charm]

2 minutes ago, KParks said:

 

I'll disagree with that. The Big Bertha line is a "GI" line separated from the main lines, but I don't think I'd call the Rogue/Mav/Rogue lines a "GI" line. It has historically been a line with less customization (i.e. hasn't usually had as many moveable weight options), but that doesn't make it a GI line. They produce each line for 2 years, but there is also always a current model year line (premium price) and a last year's model line (cheaper).

 

For example, I fully expect most of the Callaway tour staff to have a Rogue driver from the new line in play in 2022.**

 

I could have been clearer that the 2021 Epic's aren't being "discontinued", but they also won't be the current "top" driver from Callaway either. Callaway will definitely have some story about why the Rogue is better. 

 

(**Yes, many of the Callaway staff aren't playing retail heads, but that is true regardless of if it is an "Epic" year or a "Rogue" year). 

 

I know. I called it GI but I didnt know what else to call it as its like 80% GI stuff and 20% players stuff.

[KParks]

8 minutes ago, third-times-a-charm said:

 

I know. I called it GI but I didnt know what else to call it as its like 80% GI stuff and 20% players stuff.

 

Totally fair! 

 

In my mind I just think of it as a new driver line each year with more GI-ish heads (usually the "Max") and more Players-ish heads (std and LS/sub zero choices).

 

But then you do have the fact that the extra customization has (at least for the last few years) come in the odd years with less customization in the even years and... yeah... intentionally confusing for no good reason. 

 

Perhaps we can all just agree for purposes of responding to the original question that (1) there will be new Callaway Rogue drivers in 2022, (2) Callaway will keep making the 2021 Epics but the price on them will go down!

Edited November 23, 2021 by KParks

[mtnbiker5]

[TheMoneyShot]

3 minutes ago, mtnbiker5 said:

Thanks for the pics, it looks good!

[jmorrow020]

25 minutes ago, TheMoneyShot said:

Thanks for the pics, it looks good!

 

I really hope those backweights are more commercially available to people. The round weights are easy to come by, but the backweights are usually tougher. Kinda like the SIM2 weights. they are out there, but not easily accessible, and certainly not from Taylormade themselves

[noodle3872]

Funny how the TM driver topic is buzzing with speculation while people beg for leaked pics. At the same time, here are pics of a couple of the Rogue ST models and everything is chill. 
 

As a Epic Speed Triple Diamond user, I’d like to see the Triple Diamond version however good things come to those that wait. 

[TheMoneyShot]

1 hour ago, noodle3872 said:

Funny how the TM driver topic is buzzing with speculation while people beg for leaked pics. At the same time, here are pics of a couple of the Rogue ST models and everything is chill. 
 

As a Epic Speed Triple Diamond user, I’d like to see the Triple Diamond version however good things come to those that wait. 

I’m kind of surprised the pics were not taken down as of yet. 

[agood3putt]

Anyone know if the new fairways will be adjustable? 

[noodle3872]

Just now, agood3putt said:

Anyone know if the new fairways will be adjustable? 

Not heard that detail but if Mavrik and Epic Speed lines tell us anything they will be bonded hosels. 

[Jim53]

Very curious about the new iron line, hope they have a pro line that looks good.

[Red4282]

I know alot of hype behind the tm driver, but if it turns out to just be hype, and not any better, i will consider this years callaway offering. Think it looks fantastic.

[noodle3872]

57 minutes ago, Red4282 said:

I know alot of hype behind the tm driver, but if it turns out to just be hype, and not any better, i will consider this years callaway offering. Think it looks fantastic.

I think a number of members are hanging their hats on the TM driver being the driver Jonathan Wall posted about 5 yard difference over the 9 strike locations in robot testing.  It could be any of the 2022 offerings. 

[mogc60]

On 11/29/2021 at 6:49 PM, Red4282 said:

I know alot of hype behind the tm driver, but if it turns out to just be hype, and not any better, i will consider this years callaway offering. Think it looks fantastic.

Just talked with a few of the guys at my local shop. They said they saw the Rogue last week and that it looks really really good. They all were pretty hyped to hit it. The rep only brought the heads in but their feedback was great. 

[radiman]

On 11/24/2021 at 9:51 PM, noodle3872 said:

Funny how the TM driver topic is buzzing with speculation while people beg for leaked pics. At the same time, here are pics of a couple of the Rogue ST models and everything is chill. 
 

As a Epic Speed Triple Diamond user, I’d like to see the Triple Diamond version however good things come to those that wait. 

I am so pumped that the triple diamond will be part of the retail line rather than playing the waiting game to see if they release it or not. 

[keyser]

On 11/30/2021 at 2:49 AM, noodle3872 said:

I think a number of members are hanging their hats on the TM driver being the driver Jonathan Wall posted about 5 yard difference over the 9 strike locations in robot testing.  It could be any of the 2022 offerings. 

Where did JW post that? 

[noodle3872]

Just now, keyser said:

Where did JW post that? 

Twitter a few weeks ago. He didn’t say which driver but everyone seems to think it’s TM. 

[osh9]

On 11/29/2021 at 1:58 PM, agood3putt said:

Anyone know if the new fairways will be adjustable? 

From the heads that I’ve seen, they were all bonded heads. Saw all 3 of the heads that are coming out this week.

[noodle3872]

22 minutes ago, osh9 said:

From the heads that I’ve seen, they were all bonded heads. Saw all 3 of the heads that are coming out this week.

What do you mean out this week? Rogue ST release is early January 2022. 

[osh9]

9 minutes ago, noodle3872 said:

What do you mean out this week? Rogue ST release is early January 2022. 

I mean I saw the heads this week. Not that the heads are coming this week.

[DonOmar]

11 hours ago, osh9 said:

I mean I saw the heads this week. Not that the heads are coming this week.

I assume they don’t have a sliding weight in the back where the Orange/gold is? 

[noodle3872]

4 hours ago, DonOmar said:

I assume they don’t have a sliding weight in the back where the Orange/gold is? 

Doesn’t look like there’s a sliding rear weight. The TD pic show the rear weight. Looks like it may be a dual weight situation where one weight could be heavier than the other to create a shot shape bias.  However this is just a guess. 

Edited December 5, 2021 by noodle3872

[AzSuperHack76]

On 11/24/2021 at 7:26 AM, TheMoneyShot said:

Thanks for the pics, it looks good!

Here are some clearer pics that were posted on someone’s IG.