Tour Titleist TSR2, TSR3 & TSR4 driver & TSR2, TSR2+ & TSR3 3 wood - 2022 Travelers

[toddyc]

1 minute ago, PEI_Golfer said:

It's like adding R to a car to make you think it's cool, while looking pretty well exactly like the previous model...  No blasphemy, I like Titleist, but this is a huge 'ho hum' release...

Or like adding an X to the end of an old name to make it seem cool?

[btyh]

These last few comments are like a non curable disease. Just keeps growing...

[Canthelion]

51 minutes ago, btyh said:

These last few comments are like a non curable disease. Just keeps growing...

I don't know why I'm even surprised to see it here any more. 

[Wooderson]

Am I the only one who thinks the TSi2 was more bulbous in the heel of the driver? Would love to see a comparison pic of the TSi2 and TSr2 in the playing position. 

[izzi]

Any ballpark idea on when they are going to start fitting these. Scheduling a trip to CA but want to make sure Titleist will be fitting these.  Thanks in advance

[rodinho]

4 hours ago, izzi said:

Any ballpark idea on when they are going to start fitting these. Scheduling a trip to CA but want to make sure Titleist will be fitting these.  Thanks in advance

They've been on Tour two and a half days. No matter what anyone is saying on here (even the guy who claimed to be getting fitted this week 🙈), no one knows anything about them yet. It's all speculation. No one knows when they'll be fitting them as yet, but going on past releases, expect September time. 

[Goosen]

12 minutes ago, rodinho said:

They've been on Tour two and a half days. No matter what anyone is saying on here (even the guy who claimed to be getting fitted this week 🙈), no one knows anything about them yet. It's all speculation. No one knows when they'll be fitting them as yet, but going on past releases, expect September time. 

That's not true. This tour seeding and validation process is just a marketing trick.

 

Personally, I do not know much, nor have I tried to find out anything. But I know Project X Hzrdus black 4th generation will be in the line up, but it doesn't come as a shock to anybody.

[rodinho]

18 minutes ago, Goosen said:

That's not true. This tour seeding and validation process is just a marketing trick.

 

Personally, I do not know much, nor have I tried to find out anything. But I know Project X Hzrdus black 4th generation will be in the line up, but it doesn't come as a shock to anybody.

What's not true?

[Valtiel]

8 hours ago, PEI_Golfer said:

No blasphemy, I like Titleist, but this is a huge 'ho hum' release...

The problem is in order to say that with any credibility you would have to know things that you can't yet, and speculate about things you probably shouldn't. Most of what goes into metal wood performance is invisible e.g. we can't always see the ways in which weight has been moved which makes most of the difference. For example if the TSr3 is higher MOI and lower CG than the TSi3 then you won't know it just by looking at it but it will show up in head to head testing. I'd also argue (again) that the changes to the 4 are a big deal and create a whole new option within the lineup that wasn't there before. So you can say "ho hum" all you want, but you're just as guilty as the "homers thinking newer is better" if you think you can make that call based on photos alone. 

[Valtiel]

11 minutes ago, PEI_Golfer said:

Interesting take given how little changes generation to generation, and has been that way for more than a decade now...  Now if comparing to a 15+ yr old driver, sure, but this isn't going to be earth shattering.  it isn't going to be rocketballzier...

I'm not claiming every iteration is groundbreaking, I am saying that your evaluation is based on incomplete data and superficial observations. I would like to see you show (from a spec standpoint) what driver from say 2015 you'd consider to be comparable to something current. 

Edited June 25, 2022 by Valtiel

[Goosen]

36 minutes ago, rodinho said:

What's not true?

 

1 hour ago, rodinho said:

No matter what anyone is saying on here, no one knows anything about them yet. It's all speculation. No one knows when they'll be fitting them as yet... 

Edited June 25, 2022 by Goosen

[toddyc]

21 minutes ago, Valtiel said:

I'm not claiming every iteration is groundbreaking, I am saying that your evaluation is based on incomplete data and superficial observations. I would like to see you show (from a spec standpoint) what driver from say 2015 you'd consider to be comparable to something current. 

Don’t engage. You’re wasting your valuable time and energy 

[SBH9458]

53 minutes ago, Valtiel said:

I'm not claiming every iteration is groundbreaking, I am saying that your evaluation is based on incomplete data and superficial observations. I would like to see you show (from a spec standpoint) what driver from say 2015 you'd consider to be comparable to something current. 

Right on. 

[Carolina Golfer 2]

13 hours ago, PEI_Golfer said:

I'm not sure I could be any less interested in a Titleist release.  Other than homers thinking newer is better, the TSi2/3 are already excellent clubs.  Glad I just picked up a Cobra LTDx driver for what will be less than half of what these retail for.

People need to realize Titleist didn’t release this launch only for people who have TSi 

 

I know it’s hard to believe from reading this site.  But there are millions of golfers out there who might actually be playing a driver that is ——gasp——5 to 10 years old and are looking to upgrade.
 

[underwater]

I don't know if CHIII is bagging one of the new Titleist drivers at the Travellers but he just hit drive on #2 and it sounded like a carbon driver.  I wonder if they now have a new crown, albeit painted black?

 

Anyway CHIII murdered it and almost drove the green.

[SwooshLT]

31 minutes ago, underwater said:

I don't know if CHIII is bagging one of the new Titleist drivers at the Travellers but he just hit drive on #2 and it sounded like a carbon driver.  I wonder if they now have a new crown, albeit painted black?

 

Anyway CHIII murdered it and almost drove the green.

 

So for you this has better sound? Go on....

[Wonderboy]

Since Titleist is on a two year cycle for drivers there could potentially be some advancement in that time frame that would move the needle a little.  If you are putting out drivers once a year then that would be a pretty difficult task IMO.  

[SwooshLT]

TSR2 = Cobra F9 Speedback? 

 

[Kball10]

6 hours ago, PEI_Golfer said:

Interesting take given how little changes generation to generation, and has been that way for more than a decade now...  Now if comparing to a 15+ yr old driver, sure, but this isn't going to be earth shattering.  it isn't going to be rocketballzier...  Also, the irony of telling someone not to speculate, really...

 

The only thing that you said that was meaningful was that the changes to the 4 were/are needed.  If not, they might as well go back to the moto style as it's sales numbers will be, ho hum...

What is interesting is what is the purpose of you posting in this thread?   As you have indicated changes from generation to generations are not monumental for any manufacturer - that doesn’t mean people can’t be excited about a new release or that individuals with their own swing tendencies may not find benefits from something new.

[rodinho]

8 hours ago, Goosen said:

 

No official word from Titleist regarding anything to do with the new lineup. Therefore, everything said is all hearsay. I'm not saying there's an issue with that, but it's a fact. Nothing will be confirmed until the embargo lifts. 

Edited June 26, 2022 by rodinho
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[Goosen]

1 hour ago, rodinho said:

No official word from Titleist regarding anything to do with the new lineup. Therefore, everything said is all hearsay. I'm not saying there's an issue with that, but it's a fact. Nothing will be confirmed until the embargo lifts. 

With that logic, you should not be in this thread. Keep refreshing Titleist.com for your news. 😉

[rodinho]

5 minutes ago, Goosen said:

With that logic, you should not be in this thread. Keep refreshing Titleist.com for your news. 😉

It's okay, I've got a pretty reliable source 😘

[joeburger]

Need a new driver soon, gonna be hard to wait for these to come out!!

[underwater]

13 hours ago, SwooshLT said:

 

So for you this has better sound? Go on....

 

I made no inference one way or another.  My post asked if the new drivers could be carbon crowned.

 

..and implied that the new drivers seem good, regardless.

[btyh]

5 minutes ago, underwater said:

 

I made no inference one way or another.  My post asked if the new drivers could be carbon crowned.

 

..and implied that the new drivers seem good, regardless.

Sorry, you won't see carbon on titleist any time soon. Proven that you can get basically the same weight distribution with titanium that you do with carbon after gluing and painting etc. 

[underwater]

4 minutes ago, btyh said:

Sorry, you won't see carbon on titleist any time soon. Proven that you can get basically the same weight distribution with titanium that you do with carbon after gluing and painting etc. 

 

Yeah, I agree - but in the other thread, "Whats coming in the next Titleist Driver?" there was carbon talk.

 

Later I examined the photos pretty closely and the crown and body seem to roll smoothly and look nearly identical to the previous generation in that aspect - typify on carbon crown you can see transitional waves and such.  It's why companies like Callaway and TM choose design elements to mask this such as matte paint, transparent paint fading to black to show the carbon weave, etc...

 

Titleist gloss black would show a material transition like a sore thumb.

 

I came away convinced it's an all Ti body.

 

 

Edited June 26, 2022 by underwater

[SwooshLT]

25 minutes ago, underwater said:

 

I made no inference one way or another.  My post asked if the new drivers could be carbon crowned.

 

..and implied that the new drivers seem good, regardless.

 

My bad but you heard the strike and it sounded less metallic to you.....I ran with it assuming you liked it.....again my bad

[cw1209]

13 hours ago, SwooshLT said:

TSR2 = Cobra F9 Speedback? 

 

 

At this point everyone is copying the Cobra "speedback" design. The TM "inertia generator" that debuted in the SIM and the Cally "Tungsten speed cartridge" in the Rogue ST are the same thing. The TSi2 was not a great looking driver. TSR2 could be a really nice step forward. 

[btyh]

Looking at the advancements in the tsr2 and tsr4, it will be a fun fitting to have all three tested up against my tsi3 or tsr3. If any of the R series proves better than my tsi3 I won't be biased based on looks because they all look great address. 

[TheMoneyShot]

Can’t wait for the TSR4 vs my TSi4.  It’s going ti be a fun shootout!!!