Ever Meet Someone Who Has "It"?

Sean2Sean2 #TheWRX (Callaway Trip)Members Posts: 30,826 ✭✭
We all know golf is a difficult game, but for those few the game isn't THAT hard.



I play regularly with a young man of 22. This is his third hear of playing and he is down to a 3.4. He has never had a lesson. His ball speed is in the mid-180s, he can hit a true stinger (4-iron goes about 240 +/-).



His numbers are the same as the longest hitters on Tour. He doesn't look like he is swinging hard, his predominant shot shape is a gentle draw, and he has a decent short game.



He has that unquantifiable "it" factor. For example, a very short 265 hard par 4, very narrow opening to the green surrounded by hazards, and he hits a towering 3 hybrid landing 10 fee from the hole and makes the putt.



He works full-time, can't practice all that much, but whatever it is, he has got "it". And, "it" is a lot of fun watching him play this game. :-)



I hope you all get to enjoy the same experience.
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  • ClintDaggerClintDagger Posts: 566 ✭✭
    My best friend growing up had “it”. Never took a lesson in his life. At like 12 years old he decided he wanted to be good at golf and decided to mimic Fred Couples’ swing. Low and behold his swing was a carbon copy of Couples. He could hit the ball a mile and had an amazing short game to boot. We played with a tour player for a few holes in the mid 90s when my friend was 15 and he was blowing it past the guy and this guy was by no means a short hitter. My friend was just a natural. At every sport actually. His only issue was he was an introvert to the Nth degree. And because of that I’m convinced he tanked whenever he was contending for a big title. At the time I thought he was a choke artist, but looking back I actually think it was something else. He turned down offers to golf powerhouses to play at a tiny private Christian college. Then he quietly gave up the game after college. Had he been an Uber competitive guy there’s no doubt in my mind he was Tour material.
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  • disco111disco111 Members Posts: 953 ✭✭
    I had "IT",..........but the wife took it away. Now all I have is Oh **** - carry, carry, common carry........Oh S**t......
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  • vaca22vaca22 Commander In Beef Members Posts: 665 ✭✭
    I'm not friends per se with this kid, but we had mutual friends. They would tell me that he has "it". Like, pick up a controller and smoke you in any video game, even if he never played it before. Like, play "horse" and make the most ridiculous baskets.



    The same applied to him in golf. I played with him once, he said it was about his 6th or 7th time playing, and he LOOKED like he had been playing for years. He also hit the ball like he had been playing for years.



    I don't think he could tell you what the capital of Wisconsin was, or how many actually make a "dozen", but...man...the other stuff...
  • golfgirlrobingolfgirlrobin Members Posts: 2,281 ✭✭
    We’ve got an assistant pro who’s only 22-23 and is the best player I’ve ever seen. Sound off the club face is just pure, amazing short game and he can putt. He’s only about 5’6” and can’t weigh more than 140 pounds, but just crushes it. You’ll see him on the range hitting different shots and people just stop to watch. Definitely has “It”.



    A bunch of us tried to talk to him about backing him so that he could go give professional golf a real shot but he had no interest. Wants to be a club pro and loves teaching.



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  • cardoustiecardoustie haha, we don't play for 5's Members Posts: 11,604 ✭✭
    Golf is full of guys that have "it" but will never sniff the tour.



    I've played with a lot of them
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  • WalterWalter Belgian Golfer Members Posts: 698 ClubWRX
    Already played with a lot of crazy talented golfers wou you can say have " iT" and most of them Are great people as

    Well. But than there is the difference with the real big boys / professionals 🙂 Its not a bad thing Or critic but an observatin .

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  • MadGolfer76MadGolfer76 Admiration is the state furthest from understanding. Members Posts: 19,841 ✭✭
    Sean2 wrote:


    We all know golf is a difficult game, but for those few the game isn't THAT hard.



    I play regularly with a young man of 22. This is his third hear of playing and he is down to a 3.4. He has never had a lesson. His ball speed is in the mid-180s, he can hit a true stinger (4-iron goes about 240 +/-).



    His numbers are the same as the longest hitters on Tour. He doesn't look like he is swinging hard, his predominant shot shape is a gentle draw, and he has a decent short game.



    He has that unquantifiable "it" factor. For example, a very short 265 hard par 4, very narrow opening to the green surrounded by hazards, and he hits a towering 3 hybrid landing 10 fee from the hole and makes the putt.



    He works full-time, can't practice all that much, but whatever it is, he has got "it". And, "it" is a lot of fun watching him play this game. :-)



    I hope you all get to enjoy the same experience.




    I can't quite make the connection between "having it" and "using 3 hybrid."



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  • JagpilotohioJagpilotohio 45+ inch drivers are evil. Columbus, OHMembers Posts: 7,154 ✭✭
    edited Jul 19, 2018 #10
    When I was at the San Diego Golf Academy in the early 90’s (Golf academy of America now), there was a kid named Brian like that. I’ll leave out his last name.



    He was a hard core surfer and skateboarder and smoked a tremendous amount of Pot. Picture Sean Spicoli from “Fast times at Ridgemont High”. Insane natural ability. He only went to the school because his parents had agreed to pay for school and an apartment as long as he made grades. He had no interest in becoming a Club Pro. He just wanted to surf and smoke dope and live for free off his parents.



    Thing was....he was REALLY good. Stupidly good. 5’ 8” and 160 pounds and 300+ with the driver ( HUGE in the 90’s), and a spectacular short game. Zero practice or giving a **** and he went out in our weekly tournaments high as a kite and shot mid 60’s routinely. Could put up a 65 from the tips with a bong in one hand. Incredible.



    No idea what happened to him. I graduated before him. It always seemed quite sad that he just didn’t give a **** with all that talent. Who knows what would have happened if he actually cared.
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  • ChadwickogChadwickog Members Posts: 288 ✭✭
    Guy from my 'home course' has 'it'. Currently plays on the web.com, I haven't played with him as yet but have seem him tee off/played a few holes in the group behind him before. Our home course is pretty short and he drives a bunch of the greens.
  • Bonneville85308Bonneville85308 Members Posts: 1,627 ✭✭
    I definitely don't have "it."
  • MountainGoatMountainGoat Mid-MarylandMembers Posts: 1,582 ✭✭
    I've got something, but not "it".
  • duffer987duffer987 Don't feed the Choo. Canadian in CaliforniaMembers Posts: 8,961 ✭✭
    edited Jul 17, 2018 #14
    If he had 'it' he'd be lower than a 3.4.

    I'm sure he's a lovely chap, good fun to play with, and a solid stick, but there is a big 'ol world of golf out there, full of guys young and not so young, that do that sort of thing.



    TBH as long as someone is cool and knows how to get around a course, I haven't been too bothered whether they were posting in the 60s or the 100s.
  • GhostwedgeGhostwedge Posts: 653 ✭✭
    First time i experienced " it " was watching a HS kid with an original Callaway Warbird driver (steel shaft) hit a 360 yd tee shot and a 220 yd 5 iron to 4 feet behind the hole and tap it in with the 5 iron. Was on a 4-man scramble team, they used almost every one of his shots, probably shot -6 on his own ball.

    Oh and he borrowed the driver from a barrel in the pro shop and used a rental set of irons. His sister dropped him off at the course and drove away with his clubs still in the trunk. About DJ size and left handed. Super nice kid.
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    Yes, so I married her.
  • ebrasmus21ebrasmus21 Serial Shanker Members Posts: 5,177 ✭✭
    Guy I play golf with sometimes was a pretty elite junior. Used to play against Rickie and Lovemark and those guys. Got a scholarship to a big Pac 10 school but partied too much and flamed out. Immense waste of talent.



    Doesn't practice or play often these days but if he shoots par it was a bad day.
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  • Sean2Sean2 #TheWRX (Callaway Trip) Members Posts: 30,826 ✭✭

    Sean2 wrote:


    We all know golf is a difficult game, but for those few the game isn't THAT hard.



    I play regularly with a young man of 22. This is his third hear of playing and he is down to a 3.4. He has never had a lesson. His ball speed is in the mid-180s, he can hit a true stinger (4-iron goes about 240 +/-).



    His numbers are the same as the longest hitters on Tour. He doesn't look like he is swinging hard, his predominant shot shape is a gentle draw, and he has a decent short game.



    He has that unquantifiable "it" factor. For example, a very short 265 hard par 4, very narrow opening to the green surrounded by hazards, and he hits a towering 3 hybrid landing 10 fee from the hole and makes the putt.



    He works full-time, can't practice all that much, but whatever it is, he has got "it". And, "it" is a lot of fun watching him play this game. :-)



    I hope you all get to enjoy the same experience.




    I can't quite make the connection between "having it" and "using 3 hybrid."



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    He will be soon replacing it with a driving iron he recently demoed. lol
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  • Sean2Sean2 #TheWRX (Callaway Trip) Members Posts: 30,826 ✭✭
    duffer987 wrote:


    If he had 'it' he'd be lower than a 3.4.

    I'm sure he's a lovely chap, good fun to play with, and a solid stick, but there is a big 'ol world of golf out there, full of guys young and not so young, that do that sort of thing.



    TBH as long as someone is cool and knows how to get around a course, I haven't been too bothered whether they were posting in the 60s or the 100s.




    I am sure there are, but I play 200+ rounds a year and it's something I rarely see.
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  • gatorMDgatorMD Hacker-in-Chief ClubWRX Posts: 4,568 ClubWRX
    ive got it, if by it u mean a rash in the groin region from walking 18 without my gold bond
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  • BNGLBNGL Members Posts: 1,557 ✭✭
    Played with far more who think they have it, and don’t.



    At my club in Florida I was hitting balls one evening, and a college (D1 ACC) kid starts hitting right behind me. A member walks over to say hello, and I overhear the young man say, “I think I might leave after my freshmen year to try and play.” And the response was, “oh really? Well let me give you a word of advice son if you can’t hit it better than the super...stay in school.” Not that quality ball strike means anything, but if there’s a noticeable difference. (Side note that was enlightening to me, the brutal honesty, it was refreshing to hear instead of the everyone gets a trophy mentality. I asked about it later on with the member, and he said that’s how he made his money. He’d invest in the asset if he believed in it and saw a positive ceiling). It was kind of funny to me, like I still got it! Haha
  • BB28403BB28403 Members Posts: 3,079 ✭✭
    edited Jul 18, 2018 #22
    Sean2 wrote:
    We all know golf is a difficult game, but for those few the game isn't THAT hard.



    I play regularly with a young man of 22. This is his third hear of playing and he is down to a 3.4. He has never had a lesson. His ball speed is in the mid-180s, he can hit a true stinger (4-iron goes about 240 +/-).



    His numbers are the same as the longest hitters on Tour. He doesn't look like he is swinging hard, his predominant shot shape is a gentle draw, and he has a decent short game.



    He has that unquantifiable "it" factor. For example, a very short 265 hard par 4, very narrow opening to the green surrounded by hazards, and he hits a towering 3 hybrid landing 10 fee from the hole and makes the putt.



    He works full-time, can't practice all that much, but whatever it is, he has got "it". And, "it" is a lot of fun watching him play this game. :-)



    I hope you all get to enjoy the same experience.




    22 year old Lee Trevino made a time machine and met you for golf?! Dang that is cool.



    I kid of course. Wow that guy sounds good .
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  • RobERobE Posts: 169

    Sean2 wrote:


    We all know golf is a difficult game, but for those few the game isn't THAT hard.



    I play regularly with a young man of 22. This is his third hear of playing and he is down to a 3.4. He has never had a lesson. His ball speed is in the mid-180s, he can hit a true stinger (4-iron goes about 240 +/-).



    His numbers are the same as the longest hitters on Tour. He doesn't look like he is swinging hard, his predominant shot shape is a gentle draw, and he has a decent short game.



    He has that unquantifiable "it" factor. For example, a very short 265 hard par 4, very narrow opening to the green surrounded by hazards, and he hits a towering 3 hybrid landing 10 fee from the hole and makes the putt.



    He works full-time, can't practice all that much, but whatever it is, he has got "it". And, "it" is a lot of fun watching him play this game. :-)



    I hope you all get to enjoy the same experience.




    I can't quite make the connection between "having it" and "using 3 hybrid."



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    I can't quite make the connection between "not having it" and "using MP-4s" while talking smack about hybrids. image/cheesy.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':cheesy:' />
  • MountainGoatMountainGoat Mid-MarylandMembers Posts: 1,582 ✭✭
    Sean2 wrote:




    I play regularly with a young man of 22. This is his third hear of playing and he is down to a 3.4. He has never had a lesson. His ball speed is in the mid-180s, he can hit a true stinger (4-iron goes about 240 +/-).






    If that kid follows my experience, he could get some lessons with a certified PGA teaching pro, practice day and night and get that 3.4 up to a 10 in no time.
  • playar32playar32 Posts: 272 ✭✭
    "It" needs to be defined.



    Do you mean "It" as in, physically has the talent; +300 yd drives, putt the lights out; or "It", as in they can make the tour.



    Part of having "It" is the physical talent, but also being able to mentally handle situations. Can you get around the course when you game isn't 100%; can you deal with the travel and everyone bugging you for time at every stop, yet you have to go shoot 65.



    For example, take a guy like Lebron. It's his combination of physical talent (which is huge), but also his mental ability, and his foresight to take care of his body.
  • scooterboy59scooterboy59 Posts: 977 ✭✭
    I think if you have" It", your playing on tour. I played with a lot of great players that hit the ball well enough but are missing " It " .If you have "it" I think you would find a way to get out there. I only have played with two guys that I thought had tour level talent and no intrest in persuing it. Both could do things that were amazing. One loves to play but had a great family business (big money) to take over and could play when he wanted . He told me he just don't think he would enjoy all the travel and playing tournament golf all the time. The other just has other things he likes to do better.
  • rwc356rwc356 Chicago, IllinoisPosts: 301 ✭✭
    Played High School golf in Texas. Playing in a tournament one year in Austin and had some kid named Kite in my group. Not sure how you define "it" but it was clear he had it and I didn't!
    Just an older guy with 7 or 8 clubs and a MacKenzie Walker bag
  • sheppy335sheppy335 TMAG Junkie Members Posts: 6,341 ✭✭
    I had it once, made glad they made medicine to get ride of IT. Nothing was as bad as IT was, plus anyone who found out about it stay a couple feet away.





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  • Sean2Sean2 #TheWRX (Callaway Trip) Members Posts: 30,826 ✭✭
    playar32 wrote:


    "It" needs to be defined.



    Do you mean "It" as in, physically has the talent; +300 yd drives, putt the lights out; or "It", as in they can make the tour.



    Part of having "It" is the physical talent, but also being able to mentally handle situations. Can you get around the course when you game isn't 100%; can you deal with the travel and everyone bugging you for time at every stop, yet you have to go shoot 65.



    For example, take a guy like Lebron. It's his combination of physical talent (which is huge), but also his mental ability, and his foresight to take care of his body.




    I don't know. Right now he is simply a recreational golfer. Again, this is only his third year. He hasn't talked about turning pro or anything like that. He works full time, practices very little due to time constraints, and plays great golf when he does play. He doesn't have an arrogant bone in his body. Just a very nice young man who seems to have a talent for this game.
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  • ShipwreckShipwreck Members Posts: 3,695 ✭✭
    I might be wrong but I’m thinking he’s referring to that raw natural golf talent that we all talk about but hardly ever see. I’ve seen it a couple of times and, like you said, it’s quite a sight to see. Effortless power. Finesse. Touch. Almost as if they have command of the ball. A couple local brothers I know have it (the older one played a bit on the PGA tour in the 90s, then the Asian tour after an injury, younger of the two tried some mini tour stuff but never made it big) and are the two best golfers I’ve ever seen. Golf excellence is a thing of beauty.
  • Sean2Sean2 #TheWRX (Callaway Trip) Members Posts: 30,826 ✭✭
    Shipwreck wrote:


    I might be wrong but I'm thinking he's referring to that raw natural golf talent that we all talk about but hardly ever see. I've seen it a couple of times and, like you said, it's quite a sight to see. Effortless power. Finesse. Touch. Almost as if they have command of the ball. A couple local brothers I know have it (the older one played a bit on the PGA tour in the 90s, then the Asian tour after an injury, younger of the two tried some mini tour stuff but never made it big) and are the two best golfers I've ever seen. Golf excellence is a thing of beauty.




    Exactly Shipwreck. image/hi.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':hi:' />
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