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  • SuperbritSuperbrit  570Members Posts: 570
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    Rory McIlroy says the European Tour is a stepping stone to playing on the PGA Tour

    https://www.bbc.co.u...reland/46736873



    Another twist in the story. He's not wrong but a lot of people will take the hump hearing this said out loud.




    Well he's probably not wrong for the top 25 players in the world, for the rest its not just a stepping stone.



    I used to be such a big Rory fan, but some of the garbage that comes out of his mouth is starting to irritate me, he can do whatever he wants in his career, he has earned that right, but don't be bad mouthing something that has helped him throughout his career up to now, there is just no real need



    All he needed to say was "im spending a year mainly focused on the PGA tour, so i can concentrate on the majors etc etc blah blah"
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    Rory McIlroy says the European Tour is a stepping stone to playing on the PGA Tour

    https://www.bbc.co.u...reland/46736873



    Another twist in the story. He's not wrong but a lot of people will take the hump hearing this said out loud.




    Story of 9 out of every 10 things Rory has said over the years which have ruffled feathers in the peanut gallery.
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  • duffer987duffer987 I'm oot. Canadian in California 9417Members Posts: 9,417
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    jmck wrote:



    Rory McIlroy says the European Tour is a stepping stone to playing on the PGA Tour

    https://www.bbc.co.u...reland/46736873



    Another twist in the story. He's not wrong but a lot of people will take the hump hearing this said out loud.




    Story of 9 out of every 10 things Rory has said over the years which have ruffled feathers in the peanut gallery.


    Agreed. I like him more after each interview TBH. It's no different than a footballer moving from a bottom half club to one in the top 6.

    He's simply talking off the cuff and not worrying about his "team/sponsors" like corporate Jordan or distracted by the hum of an AC unit like DJ.

    You have to be pretty precious about the Euro Tour to take any offense.
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  • jmckjmck  4473Members Posts: 4,473
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    Superbrit wrote:



    Rory McIlroy says the European Tour is a stepping stone to playing on the PGA Tour

    https://www.bbc.co.u...reland/46736873



    Another twist in the story. He's not wrong but a lot of people will take the hump hearing this said out loud.




    Well he's probably not wrong for the top 25 players in the world, for the rest its not just a stepping stone.



    I used to be such a big Rory fan, but some of the garbage that comes out of his mouth is starting to irritate me, he can do whatever he wants in his career, he has earned that right, but don't be bad mouthing something that has helped him throughout his career up to now, there is just no real need



    All he needed to say was "im spending a year mainly focused on the PGA tour, so i can concentrate on the majors etc etc blah blah"




    Disagree. If you're, say, #26 through #100 on the Euro tour you're trying to move up into the top 25 so you get more invites to WGC and US PGA tour stuff. Same as the Web.com tour in the US. I doubt that many pros below #25 on the Euro tour are content with where they are and not trying to move up. Or look at US pros who go and play the Euro tour full time. They are absolutely using it as a stepping stone--Koepka and Uihlein come to mind.
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  • kcsfkcsf Santa Fe, NM 1173Members Posts: 1,173
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    I think people have developed an allergy to hearing the truth.



    Every tour IS a stepping stone to the PGA as the PGA is the top level in mens golf. It's just that simple folks. Now if you get all excited because Rory was the one to say it, oh well, that's on you. It would be no less the truth coming from Tiger, Jack, or Molinari.
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  • tigerstewtigerstew Englandgolfer1985  306Members Posts: 306
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    Superbrit wrote:



    Rory McIlroy says the European Tour is a stepping stone to playing on the PGA Tour

    [url="https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/northern-ireland/46736873"]https://www.bbc.co.u...reland/46736873[/url]



    Another twist in the story. He's not wrong but a lot of people will take the hump hearing this said out loud.




    Well he's probably not wrong for the top 25 players in the world, for the rest its not just a stepping stone.



    I used to be such a big Rory fan, but some of the garbage that comes out of his mouth is starting to irritate me, he can do whatever he wants in his career, he has earned that right, but don't be bad mouthing something that has helped him throughout his career up to now, there is just no real need



    All he needed to say was "im spending a year mainly focused on the PGA tour, so i can concentrate on the majors etc etc blah blah"




    I’m guessing your one of the people who wants free speech banned.



    He’s right in everything he says, end of. Get on with it and stop moaning.
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  • tigerstewtigerstew Englandgolfer1985  306Members Posts: 306
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    duffer987 wrote:

    jmck wrote:



    Rory McIlroy says the European Tour is a stepping stone to playing on the PGA Tour

    [url="https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/northern-ireland/46736873"]https://www.bbc.co.u...reland/46736873[/url]



    Another twist in the story. He's not wrong but a lot of people will take the hump hearing this said out loud.




    Story of 9 out of every 10 things Rory has said over the years which have ruffled feathers in the peanut gallery.


    Agreed. I like him more after each interview TBH. It's no different than a footballer moving from a bottom half club to one in the top 6.

    He's simply talking off the cuff and not worrying about his "team/sponsors" like corporate Jordan or distracted by the hum of an AC unit like DJ.

    You have to be pretty precious about the Euro Tour to take any offense.




    Talking about Paul mcginley who was never good enough to play on the us tour??? 🤐🤐🤐🤐
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  • SuperbritSuperbrit  570Members Posts: 570
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    kcsf wrote:


    I think people have developed an allergy to hearing the truth.



    Every tour IS a stepping stone to the PGA as the PGA is the top level in mens golf. It's just that simple folks. Now if you get all excited because Rory was the one to say it, oh well, that's on you. It would be no less the truth coming from Tiger, Jack, or Molinari.




    I dont think anyone has said its not the truth, for him it was a stepping stone, and is for a lot of players, but he doesn't need say it in an interview, its called a lack of respect, if i spoke the truth about everything at my workplace i'd get the sack
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  • SuperbritSuperbrit  570Members Posts: 570
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    tigerstew wrote:

    Superbrit wrote:



    Rory McIlroy says the European Tour is a stepping stone to playing on the PGA Tour

    https://www.bbc.co.u...reland/46736873



    Another twist in the story. He's not wrong but a lot of people will take the hump hearing this said out loud.




    Well he's probably not wrong for the top 25 players in the world, for the rest its not just a stepping stone.



    I used to be such a big Rory fan, but some of the garbage that comes out of his mouth is starting to irritate me, he can do whatever he wants in his career, he has earned that right, but don't be bad mouthing something that has helped him throughout his career up to now, there is just no real need



    All he needed to say was "im spending a year mainly focused on the PGA tour, so i can concentrate on the majors etc etc blah blah"




    I'm guessing your one of the people who wants free speech banned.



    He's right in everything he says, end of. Get on with it and stop moaning.




    No i just like to show a little respect, especially to people who have helped in my life
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  • jmckjmck  4473Members Posts: 4,473
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    Superbrit wrote:

    kcsf wrote:


    I think people have developed an allergy to hearing the truth.



    Every tour IS a stepping stone to the PGA as the PGA is the top level in mens golf. It's just that simple folks. Now if you get all excited because Rory was the one to say it, oh well, that's on you. It would be no less the truth coming from Tiger, Jack, or Molinari.




    I dont think anyone has said its not the truth, for him it was a stepping stone, and is for a lot of players, but he doesn't need say it in an interview, its called a lack of respect, if i spoke the truth about everything at my workplace i'd get the sack




    You know Rory is self-employed, right?
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  • SuperbritSuperbrit  570Members Posts: 570
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    jmck wrote:

    Superbrit wrote:

    kcsf wrote:


    I think people have developed an allergy to hearing the truth.



    Every tour IS a stepping stone to the PGA as the PGA is the top level in mens golf. It's just that simple folks. Now if you get all excited because Rory was the one to say it, oh well, that's on you. It would be no less the truth coming from Tiger, Jack, or Molinari.




    I don't think anyone has said its not the truth, for him it was a stepping stone, and is for a lot of players, but he doesn't need say it in an interview, its called a lack of respect, if i spoke the truth about everything at my workplace i'd get the sack




    You know Rory is self-employed, right?




    And?? so self employed people can say whatever they want where ever they work or whatever they do in life?
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  • jmckjmck  4473Members Posts: 4,473
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    Superbrit wrote:

    jmck wrote:

    Superbrit wrote:

    kcsf wrote:


    I think people have developed an allergy to hearing the truth.



    Every tour IS a stepping stone to the PGA as the PGA is the top level in mens golf. It's just that simple folks. Now if you get all excited because Rory was the one to say it, oh well, that's on you. It would be no less the truth coming from Tiger, Jack, or Molinari.




    I don't think anyone has said its not the truth, for him it was a stepping stone, and is for a lot of players, but he doesn't need say it in an interview, its called a lack of respect, if i spoke the truth about everything at my workplace i'd get the sack




    You know Rory is self-employed, right?




    And?? so self employed people can say whatever they want where ever they work or whatever they do in life?




    Point is you biting your tongue in your office is not applicable to what Rory says to the press. There is no job for him to get sacked from just because he said something you personally find lacking.
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  • SuperbritSuperbrit  570Members Posts: 570
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    jmck wrote:

    Superbrit wrote:

    jmck wrote:

    Superbrit wrote:

    kcsf wrote:


    I think people have developed an allergy to hearing the truth.



    Every tour IS a stepping stone to the PGA as the PGA is the top level in mens golf. It's just that simple folks. Now if you get all excited because Rory was the one to say it, oh well, that's on you. It would be no less the truth coming from Tiger, Jack, or Molinari.




    I don't think anyone has said its not the truth, for him it was a stepping stone, and is for a lot of players, but he doesn't need say it in an interview, its called a lack of respect, if i spoke the truth about everything at my workplace i'd get the sack




    You know Rory is self-employed, right?




    And?? so self employed people can say whatever they want where ever they work or whatever they do in life?




    Point is you biting your tongue in your office is not applicable to what Rory says to the press. There is no job for him to get sacked from just because he said something you personally find lacking.




    And all i'm saying is Rory should show a little more respect to an organisation that would have helped him over the years that's all
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  • bscinstnctbscinstnct  27714Members Posts: 27,714
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    "My life's here. I have an American wife. I live in America," said McIlroy.



    "Honestly, I enjoy it here more. The way of life is easier. The weather. The convenience," he added.







    Lol, how can he play for the Euros in the RC? Isn't it a sham to do that? I think you need to have gained US citizenship before you're 18 to be on the US team. It would be great to change that rule and poach Rory over.
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  • jmckjmck  4473Members Posts: 4,473
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    bscinstnct wrote:


    "My life's here. I have an American wife. I live in America," said McIlroy.



    "Honestly, I enjoy it here more. The way of life is easier. The weather. The convenience," he added.







    Lol, how can he play for the Euros in the RC? Isn't it a sham to do that? I think you need to have gained US citizenship before you're 18 to be on the US team. It would be great to change that rule and poach Rory over.




    You better sit down. I'm afraid I have some bad news about the Sabbitini version of Rory.
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  • duffer987duffer987 I'm oot. Canadian in California 9417Members Posts: 9,417
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    Superbrit wrote:

    kcsf wrote:


    I think people have developed an allergy to hearing the truth.



    Every tour IS a stepping stone to the PGA as the PGA is the top level in mens golf. It's just that simple folks. Now if you get all excited because Rory was the one to say it, oh well, that's on you. It would be no less the truth coming from Tiger, Jack, or Molinari.




    I dont think anyone has said its not the truth, for him it was a stepping stone, and is for a lot of players, but he doesn't need say it in an interview, its called a lack of respect, if i spoke the truth about everything at my workplace i'd get the sack


    Sounds like you need a new job.

    And a pro athlete isn't Joe Bloggs working in an office. It's bad enough when people compare their golf games to tour players, but comparing professions? Not even close.

    Rory stepped up to be the host of the Irish Open for a few years, amongst other things he's done to play on the Euro Tour, when it certainly would have been a **** sight easier to just play the PGA tour full time.

    There's no disrespect here.
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  • Matt JMatt J  8735Members Posts: 8,735
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    Rory is such a jerk for saying something we all know?



    Europe Tour should motivate to fix it, not complain that he said it.



    They could easily steal some big names during the fall Australia swing and around the Open Championship. They should angle to make Aus the 5th major and surround the Open with events with more prize money. They could pick another weak spot on the PGA schedule and host a Bermuda event.



    Or, be happy being AAA.
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  • Birdie MacBirdie Mac  656Members Posts: 656
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    I think the idea that SuperBrit was trying to get across is that it's not necessary to step on toes in all cases. If you go out to eat with a group, one of which is the guy that helped you along in your golf career, and his wife is there and looking frumpy, do you mention it? Probably not. If so, I'd love to be there to watch the fallout.



    Perhaps this is an opportunity for the ET to speak up and set the record straight from their point of view.
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  • nichhonichho  2021Members Posts: 2,021
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    Can't believe all the fuss about McIlroy. This is the guy the PGA Tour should be encouraging to join.



    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/golf/38629200
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    European Tour can't fix it because Fed Ex is putting $15m into their cup and no sponsor in the world exists that will put more money into another golf Tour.



    Rory doesn't even have to play in any continent but Europe. If he wants to skip Dubai fine but surely he can play in Ireland, Scotland and England at least in front of his own fans. Can't complain when he hears USA when he's in the final round if he wants to only play in America.



    Rory doesn't really seem to have loyalty to anything except the dollar. The "I've done my time" bit is irritating, like he was doing the European Tour a favour by playing. He only played 4 tournaments a year anyway, he makes it sound like he was travelling from Kenya to India week to week.
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  • JonnyKrasnodarJonnyKrasnodar  1874Members Posts: 1,874
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    He's come out and said it now so good luck to him. He's limited his chances of winning regularly and as others have said he's only interested in two things: 1) Himself 2) Money



    What he said about the ET is disrespectful to the Tour and those grinding on it week in week out. Good thing is we won't have to listen to the Sky commentary team bigging him up every other week.



    Hope it works out for him.



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  • MattyO1984MattyO1984  5555Members Posts: 5,555
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    I don't think anything that Rory said was wrong but that he said it was.



    Honestly, there was absolutely no need for someone in his position to say that kind of thing.
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  • bscinstnctbscinstnct  27714Members Posts: 27,714
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    MattyO1984 wrote:


    I don't think anything that Rory said was wrong but that he said it was.



    Honestly, there was absolutely no need for someone in his position to say that kind of thing.




    And this,



    "I've done my time. I've done everything I feel like I need to do to say OK, I'm going to make my own decisions and do what I want."



    Sound like Billy Batts after he got out of jail,



    I did my **** time



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  • KillerPenguinKillerPenguin  590Members Posts: 590
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    Dave230 wrote:


    The "I've done my time" bit is irritating, like he was doing the European Tour a favour by playing.


    Dave, the problem is that he HAS been doing the European Tour a big favor for close to a decade now. Some of the Irish sports press have characterized his efforts with the Irish Open as saving it from going under, and, despite the ET's best efforts, some tournaments are finding it harder than ever to find sponsorships. The Tour needs all the help it can get.



    https://www.bbc.com/sport/golf/45867596



    Also, I enjoy having mild golf controversies to talk about. So many people complain about robotic personalities on Tour, and Rory certainly isn't that. It's refreshing to have a straw to stir golf's drink (to steal phrase from Reggie Jackson).
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  • nichhonichho  2021Members Posts: 2,021
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    bscinstnct wrote:

    MattyO1984 wrote:


    I don't think anything that Rory said was wrong but that he said it was.



    Honestly, there was absolutely no need for someone in his position to say that kind of thing.




    And this,



    "I've done my time. I've done everything I feel like I need to do to say OK, I'm going to make my own decisions and do what I want."



    Sound like Billy Batts after he got out of jail,



    I did my **** time



    goodfellas.jpg?format=2500w




    And we all know what happened to Billy............Rory needs to watch his back.
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    Rors in another “tells it how it is” shocker.



    It’s refreshing to hear someone who is always honest, and is prepared to give his opinions. No doubt the likes of McGinley & Mrs Doubtfire will be outraged, but he’s not wrong in anything he said.
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    Go where they pay you more, pretty easy to understand 😏 I would do the same.
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  • widow-makerwidow-maker  1665Members Posts: 1,665
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    He's right. He's tried to combine both Tours and it's worked against him. He came out and said he was going to concentrate on the PGA Tour through August and then see how to work in some Euro events. Caught some flak for it. Now he's just putting it out there that he doesn't care what others think. He wants to win Majors and he wants to make his mark on his career. He's come to the conclusion that he can best accomplish his goals by concentrating on one Tour. He's doing it for himself because nothing he's done for others seems to carry any weight going forward. I like his honesty. I like his chances. Instead of being wishy washy, it looks to me like he's getting himself together for a run of serious golf where he finally puts everything he has into it. Tiger always did Tiger. Didn't care what others were doing. Played the schedule that got him ready for the Majors. Rory needs to do Rory.
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  • cdnglfcdnglf  3504Members Posts: 3,504
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    Remember when Rory gave up PGA Tour membership and skipped the Players?
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    JonnyW wrote:
    Maybe it's as simple as he has...and this is pure speculation...a pregnant wife.



    He doesn't want to tell the world as it's early days but he knows for the next 8 months he wants to stay near home...as a relatively newly wed couple this would make sense, well as much as all the other theories anyway!




    Hmmmmmm
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