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  • AutomaticTwoDownAutomaticTwoDown Two down after two, time to get to work Members  467WRX Points: 112Handicap: 5Posts: 467 Greens
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    Please update the title.

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  • Big BenBig Ben Members  9353WRX Points: 520Handicap: 5Posts: 9,353 Titanium Tees
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    So if I compile this thread sounds like the 410 and Max are very close?

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    Irons: 19' Cobra CB's
    Drivers: Titleist TS3 & Cobra F9
    Fairway: Titleist 917F2
    Hybrid: A-Grind
    2 iron: Ping Rapture
    Wedges: Ping Gorge 2.0 Stealth's
    Putter: Evnroll 9.1
    Balls: ProV1
  • Kale_mKale_m Members  2441WRX Points: 508Posts: 2,441 Platinum Tees
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    On -, @Big Ben said:

    So if I compile this thread sounds like the 410 and Max are very close?

    410 lower spin, launch and sits way more square then the max.

    410 way better

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    Taylormade Sim 9* (9.75*) Accra tour Z RPG 472 m5+
    Titleist TS3 15* Evenflow White T1100 75g 6.0
    Ping g410 3hy at 20* with tensei white 90tx 
    Titleist 4-6 718 CB 7-PW 718 MB PX LZ 6.5
    Callaway md4 52/56/ 60
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  • OknowsOknows Members  1274WRX Points: 116Posts: 1,274 Platinum Tees
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    410 definitely spins less.

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    Titleist TS3 w/ Fujikura Speeder Evolution 757 TS
    Taylormade M6 15 w/ Proforce V2 8F5
    Ping G 18* w/ Tour 80
    Taylormade M6 4H w/ KBS Hybrid
    Mizuno MP 18 MMC 5-PW w/ Project X 6.0
    Mizuno S18 50* w/ Project X 6.0
    Cleveland CBX 2.0 54* w/ DG TI s400
    Cleveland RTX 4 xlow 58* w/ DG TI s400
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  • awtryau89awtryau89 Hoschton, GAMembers, ClubWRX  1529WRX Points: 309Posts: 1,529 ClubWRX
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    Yep to both previous comments. I found the 410+ to launch lower and spin comparably to my G400 LST so a decent amount less than the Max. During my G400 Max experiment last year, I couldn't get the Max to spin anywhere close to my LST. Some of my playing partners use the Max and their swing needs the spin and it is a rocket. All depends on if it fits.

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    On -, @AutomaticTwoDown said:

    Please update the title.

    Haha, good call

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  • Big BenBig Ben Members  9353WRX Points: 520Handicap: 5Posts: 9,353 Titanium Tees
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    I think the 410 is my next driver purchase.

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    Irons: 19' Cobra CB's
    Drivers: Titleist TS3 & Cobra F9
    Fairway: Titleist 917F2
    Hybrid: A-Grind
    2 iron: Ping Rapture
    Wedges: Ping Gorge 2.0 Stealth's
    Putter: Evnroll 9.1
    Balls: ProV1
  • OknowsOknows Members  1274WRX Points: 116Posts: 1,274 Platinum Tees
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    Absolutely loved the Max and will by another at some point, however, the 410 has a few things that have given it the edge in my opinion.
    1. Flat lie angle has helped me start the ball on line or to the right.
    2. Adjustability. My swing isn’t the same every time I go out. The weight works.
    3. Spin. Definitely lower spin. I’ve hit a couple of dead ducks (my swing issue) with the 410 and that never happened with the Max. That sounds bad, but it reassures me that the spin is down which cost me some yardage with the Max. I feel like I can go after the 410 and it will give me a nice mid launch with low spin that just gets up and goes.

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    Titleist TS3 w/ Fujikura Speeder Evolution 757 TS
    Taylormade M6 15 w/ Proforce V2 8F5
    Ping G 18* w/ Tour 80
    Taylormade M6 4H w/ KBS Hybrid
    Mizuno MP 18 MMC 5-PW w/ Project X 6.0
    Mizuno S18 50* w/ Project X 6.0
    Cleveland CBX 2.0 54* w/ DG TI s400
    Cleveland RTX 4 xlow 58* w/ DG TI s400
    SC Circa 62 #3
  • rainkingjrrainkingjr Members  2777WRX Points: 240Posts: 2,777 Titanium Tees
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    I have no reason why other than I am a club junkie, but I got rid of my G400 Max 10.5 with the Tour 65 shaft. I played it both stiff and X stiff always set in the Big -. By far the most accurate driver I ever owned. I am a serious low spin player with the driver and the Max gave me numbers in the 2200 range on a consistent basis. I just ordered a G410 plus with an Evenflow Black 75 stiff shaft. We'll see how it compares, but I just can't get the performance of the Max out of my mind. The 410 has huge shoes to fill.

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  • OLD_BONESOLD_BONES Chico, CAClubWRX  1820WRX Points: 41Handicap: HIGHPosts: 1,820 Platinum Tees
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    As a high capper I didn’t like the 410 and went back to the 400 Max.

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  • woods991woods991 believelandClubWRX  2588WRX Points: 187Handicap: 11Posts: 2,588 Titanium Tees
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    I am a 9 handicap and went back to the Max a couple weeks ago and loving life again. The 410 just didn't work for me as well. I swear I am not switching back anytime soon. FYI Tour AD TP in this head is insane.

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    Signature of Solon CC
    TM Sim Max w/Tour Ad TP 6
    Taylormade SIM Ti 15 tour ad iz 6
    Titleist 913 518 Diamana Thump 60
    Mizuno Jpx 919 Hot Metal Nippon Modus3 Pro 105 4-pw 
    Taylormade MG2 50,54 Modus3 Tour
    Honma tw-w4 Modus3 tour 120 60
    Sik Flo C 33.75 w/BGT Stability Tour 
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  • ericftericft Members  637WRX Points: 103Posts: 637 Golden Tee
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    I loved my 10.5 max with tensei pro white 60 TX. baby fades all day long...as expected as a wrxer, sold it to try the 2016 M2, M4 as I loved the 2016 M2 HL...long story, ended up going back to a 10.5 max but I hit it too high but since the shaft is low spin it goes a long way...really nothing to complain about, very accurate. I then got a 410 plus and some hits were longer but sometimes left sometimes right...not as forgiving. In the search for a lower flight I got a 9 deg head 400 max as well..I played a few holes yesterday but still seemed to go high..took the 8.5 400 LST head ( turned to big minus) from proshop and plugged in my 60 TX Pro white and hit some crazy numbers on my GC2 indoors last night...Way longer than anything ever...will see how it holds up on course later today. I always tell people it is not distance but hitting fairways that matters but look at me....can't even follow my own advice..

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  • typhoonoidtyphoonoid Members  949WRX Points: 123Posts: 949 Golden Tee
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    wait for 410 MAX!

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    Ping G 3W Fujikura Pro 63s
    Ping G25 3H, 4H
    Mizuno JPX 919 Hot Metal Pro 5-GW KBS C-Taper Lite S
    Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth 56* ES
    Taylormade Hi-Toe 60*
    Odyssey Toulon Las Vegas H3 Stability Shaft
    Srixon Z-Star Yellow
    Ping DLX Cart Bag

  • howellhandmadehowellhandmade Members  865WRX Points: 264Posts: 865 Golden Tee
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    Something about the way the max releases. I dabbled with a Mizuno S190 which was longer but there were too many swings that felt good but the ball went somewhere unexpected. With the max the feel lines up with the direction much better, and it’s not THAT much shorter.

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  • rainkingjrrainkingjr Members  2777WRX Points: 240Posts: 2,777 Titanium Tees
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    On -, @howellhandmade said:

    Something about the way the max releases. I dabbled with a Mizuno S190 which was longer but there were too many swings that felt good but the ball went somewhere unexpected. With the max the feel lines up with the direction much better, and it’s not THAT much shorter.

    I also tried the ST190. Long when centered, but I am much longer with the Max. It just boils down to being able to swing more freely with the Max. I hit the most consistent baby fades with the Max and can really go after it. With the ST190 I was prone to some extreme low hooks.

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  • mosesgolfmosesgolf Members  7052WRX Points: 325Posts: 7,052 Titanium Tees
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    G400 Max is the absolute best driver I have ever hit. It's the most accurate and most forgiving. I swing away on every hole regardless of how tight it is. This driver inspires confidence of accuracy combined with great length. Mine has the Aldila 125 MSI 70 x and with this combo I'm not having any high spin issues. Get this head put in a low spinning shaft and swing away.

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    Ping G410 Plus 9* Tensei Orange 60 X
    Ping G410 16.5 Tensei Orange 70 X
    Ping G410 19 Tensei X
    Ping G410 22 Tour 85 Stiff
    Ping i200 5-AW KBS Tour 120 Stiff
    Ping Glide Forged 56
    Ping Glide Forged 60
    Ping UG-LE Putter
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  • rainkingjrrainkingjr Members  2777WRX Points: 240Posts: 2,777 Titanium Tees
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    Tried a 410 plus for one day and immediately back to the G400 Max.

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    I am a 9 handicap and went back to the Max a couple weeks ago and loving life again. The 410 just didn't work for me as well. I swear I am not switching back anytime soon.

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    Signature of Solon CC
    TM Sim Max w/Tour Ad TP 6
    Taylormade SIM Ti 15 tour ad iz 6
    Titleist 913 518 Diamana Thump 60
    Mizuno Jpx 919 Hot Metal Nippon Modus3 Pro 105 4-pw 
    Taylormade MG2 50,54 Modus3 Tour
    Honma tw-w4 Modus3 tour 120 60
    Sik Flo C 33.75 w/BGT Stability Tour 
  • animalgolfsanimalgolfs Members  2144WRX Points: 163Handicap: 2.3Posts: 2,144 Platinum Tees
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    Max is the best since the original black Tisi for me

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  • MysteryVMysteryV Members  559WRX Points: 154Posts: 559 Golden Tee
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    The Max is amazing.
    I didn't get along with the 410, so obviously it's a worse club :wink:
    In truth though, I think Ping would have sold more 410s (I can almost guarantee at least one more :smile: ) had they kept the same adapter. Is there any benefit whatsoever to changing the tip? It's not like people order additional shafts through Ping directly. It's not like they make a ton off selling adapters. I haven't looked at them closely, so perhaps there's additional adjustability? I really can't figure out why they would change. All I can think is that maybe the tooling was getting worn after a few years of production?

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    Driver: Taylormade SIM Max w/ Ventus Blue "New Year's" edition
    3 Wood / 5 Wood / 4H: Epic 3+ w/ GD AD-DI
    Irons: Miura CB-1008 w/ Oban CT-115
    Wedges: Miura Y Grind 51, Miura K Grind 56,60 w/ Modus Wedge
    Putter: Byron Morgan DH-89 GSS
  • mixxedbagmixxedbag Members  487WRX Points: 37Posts: 487 Greens
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    ^ they completely changed the adjustability....they have three separate flat options now.

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    Titleist TS3 9.5 Fujikura Ventus Blue 6S
    Titleist TS3 15 /Aldila Rogue Silver 70S
    Titleist TS2 19 /Project X Evenflow White 90 6.0
    Titleist T100 4-PW/True Temper AMT Tour White S300
    Titleist Vokey SM7 50F, 54M, 60M 
    Evnroll 1.2 34"
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