Pure745's 2014 Shootout - Update 6/15/14

[Pure745]

Quick update, currently in the bag:

 

SLDR 460 Tour Head - 10.5 set on LOWER with Aldila Rogue 70X

SLDR 15 set one click above LOWER with Aldila ATX Green 75TX

 

A few things that I have noticed is how straight the 460/Rogue is, it's not the lowest spinning/launching combo I have hit, but it is really straight. It's definitely not short, my good swings are rewarded, but dispersion is really tight. The shaft feels awesome, really smooth, and very stable.. it feels better to me than the 661. The 661 is smooth, but you can feel it load more than with the Rogue. Another thing I noticed was that the TXX 460 is a lighter head, which I am finding to have an effect on shafts and performance.

 

I weighed the heads w/o adapters because of this:

 

CT 2.0 = 200g

SLDR 430 (OTR) = 200g

SLDR 460 (TXX) = 194g

 

 

The 460/Rogue setup is so dependable that I am having trouble doing any tinkering with this combo because it is very dependable, my home course has OB on every hole, and can be very punishing on bad tee shots, but rewarding on good ones. Still waiting on the Oban's to arrive and get built, then off to the Trackman. If I were to rank this now, my favorite setup is the 460/Rogue, and tied for 2nd would be 460/BB6x, 430/BB6x, and CT.20/661 :)

[BidenTP]

Quick update, currently in the bag:

 

SLDR 460 Tour Head - 10.5 set on LOWER with Aldila Rogue 70X

SLDR 15 set one click above LOWER with Aldila ATX Green 75TX

 

A few things that I have noticed is how straight the 460/Rogue is, it's not the lowest spinning/launching combo I have hit, but it is really straight. It's definitely not short, my good swings are rewarded, but dispersion is really tight. The shaft feels awesome, really smooth, and very stable.. it feels better to me than the 661. The 661 is smooth, but you can feel it load more than with the Rogue. Another thing I noticed was that the TXX 460 is a lighter head, which I am finding to have an effect on shafts and performance.

 

I weighed the heads w/o adapters because of this:

 

CT 2.0 = 200g

SLDR 430 (OTR) = 200g

SLDR 460 (TXX) = 194g

 

 

The 460/Rogue setup is so dependable that I am having trouble doing any tinkering with this combo because it is very dependable, my home course has OB on every hole, and can be very punishing on bad tee shots, but rewarding on good ones. Still waiting on the Oban's to arrive and get built, then off to the Trackman. If I were to rank this now, my favorite setup is the 460/Rogue, and tied for 2nd would be 460/BB6x, 430/BB6x, and CT.20/661 :)

 

How do you like the atx green 75tx?

 

I'm looking at going with the 85tx in the SLDR 3 wood. I'm also trying to get my hands on a atx blue 95h to put into a SLDR 3 rescue but no luck so far.

 

Also, do you like the 661 over the 757?

[Pure745]

[quote name='bidenn' timestamp='1394986444' post='8882807']
How do you like the atx green 75tx?

I'm looking at going with the 85tx in the SLDR 3 wood. I'm also trying to get my hands on a atx blue 95h to put into a SLDR 3 rescue but no luck so far.

Also, do you like the 661 over the 757?
[/quote]

I like the ATX Green more than I thought I would. It definitely feels good, dispersion is surprisingly good and I have found it to be lower in spin than I thought it would be for me. I have the 105TX in my SLDR 21˚ and really love that club, compared to the 9.8 TS, the 105TX has much better feel and flight is really good.

I have only hit the 661 in the driver and 757 in the 3 wood.. so I can't really comment in comparing them in the driver.

[scratchswinger]

How is the flight of the 105 vs 9.8 in the hybrid?

[BidenTP]

[quote name='Pure745' timestamp='1394990349' post='8883249']
[quote name='bidenn' timestamp='1394986444' post='8882807']
How do you like the atx green 75tx?

I'm looking at going with the 85tx in the SLDR 3 wood. I'm also trying to get my hands on a atx blue 95h to put into a SLDR 3 rescue but no luck so far.

Also, do you like the 661 over the 757?
[/quote]

I like the ATX Green more than I thought I would. It definitely feels good, dispersion is surprisingly good and I have found it to be lower in spin than I thought it would be for me. I have the 105TX in my SLDR 21˚ and really love that club, compared to the 9.8 TS, the 105TX has much better feel and flight is really good.

I have only hit the 661 in the driver and 757 in the 3 wood.. so I can't really comment in comparing them in the driver.
[/quote]

Ill have to take a look into the 105tx since i cant find the 95tx anywhere. I think what I am going to end up going with is the 757 in the Jetspeed and the green 75tx 3 wood.

[Pure745]

[quote name='scratchswinger' timestamp='1394998914' post='8884153']
How is the flight of the 105 vs 9.8 in the hybrid?
[/quote]

Initial launch and apex are a touch higher. 105 is much smoother and feels better, spin is pretty low on both, surprisingly low with the 105 with how good it feels.

[gambit]

Quick update, currently in the bag:

 

SLDR 460 Tour Head - 10.5 set on LOWER with Aldila Rogue 70X

SLDR 15 set one click above LOWER with Aldila ATX Green 75TX

 

A few things that I have noticed is how straight the 460/Rogue is, it's not the lowest spinning/launching combo I have hit, but it is really straight. It's definitely not short, my good swings are rewarded, but dispersion is really tight. The shaft feels awesome, really smooth, and very stable.. it feels better to me than the 661. The 661 is smooth, but you can feel it load more than with the Rogue. Another thing I noticed was that the TXX 460 is a lighter head, which I am finding to have an effect on shafts and performance.

 

I weighed the heads w/o adapters because of this:

 

CT 2.0 = 200g

SLDR 430 (OTR) = 200g

SLDR 460 (TXX) = 194g

 

 

The 460/Rogue setup is so dependable that I am having trouble doing any tinkering with this combo because it is very dependable, my home course has OB on every hole, and can be very punishing on bad tee shots, but rewarding on good ones. Still waiting on the Oban's to arrive and get built, then off to the Trackman. If I were to rank this now, my favorite setup is the 460/Rogue, and tied for 2nd would be 460/BB6x, 430/BB6x, and CT.20/661 :)

 

The weights of the heads are very interesting, primarily because of the feedback that the CT 2.0 is so heavy coming in at D8. Does the 430 come in at a D7-8 also? Also interesting to see that the 430 was heavier than the 460 tour.

 

Pure - did you find the head weights cause the shafts to play just a little softer to flex?

[Pure745]

[quote name='gambit' timestamp='1395094012' post='8892765']
The weights of the heads are very interesting, primarily because of the feedback that the CT 2.0 is so heavy coming in at D8. Does the 430 come in at a D7-8 also? Also interesting to see that the 430 was heavier than the 460 tour.

Pure - did you find the head weights cause the shafts to play just a little softer to flex?
[/quote]

I'm not sure the weights of the SLDR and Covert adapters, but the 430 is definitely heavy, just not sure it's as heavy as the Covert. The weights of the head definitely changes the way the shafts play and is why the 661/757 had to be tipped. I knew most of the difference between the tour issue SLDR heads were the fact that they were lighter, but never thought much of it till recently when trying different OTR heads with the same shafts. I definitely prefer the lighter head, or I should say, the lighter head is a more familiar feeling with my swing.

[gambit]

[quote name='Pure745' timestamp='1395106519' post='8894275']
[quote name='gambit' timestamp='1395094012' post='8892765']
The weights of the heads are very interesting, primarily because of the feedback that the CT 2.0 is so heavy coming in at D8. Does the 430 come in at a D7-8 also? Also interesting to see that the 430 was heavier than the 460 tour.

Pure - did you find the head weights cause the shafts to play just a little softer to flex?
[/quote]

I'm not sure the weights of the SLDR and Covert adapters, but the 430 is definitely heavy, just not sure it's as heavy as the Covert. The weights of the head definitely changes the way the shafts play and is why the 661/757 had to be tipped. I knew most of the difference between the tour issue SLDR heads were the fact that they were lighter, but never thought much of it till recently when trying different OTR heads with the same shafts. I definitely prefer the lighter head, or I should say, the lighter head is a more familiar feeling with my swing.
[/quote]

Thanks for the info. Great stuff as usual.

[potuna]

661 inbound for 460 sldr.

[sbjinx]

[quote name='Pure745' timestamp='1395106519' post='8894275']
[quote name='gambit' timestamp='1395094012' post='8892765']
The weights of the heads are very interesting, primarily because of the feedback that the CT 2.0 is so heavy coming in at D8. Does the 430 come in at a D7-8 also? Also interesting to see that the 430 was heavier than the 460 tour.

Pure - did you find the head weights cause the shafts to play just a little softer to flex?
[/quote]

I'm not sure the weights of the SLDR and Covert adapters, but the 430 is definitely heavy, just not sure it's as heavy as the Covert. The weights of the head definitely changes the way the shafts play and is why the 661/757 had to be tipped. I knew most of the difference between the tour issue SLDR heads were the fact that they were lighter, but never thought much of it till recently when trying different OTR heads with the same shafts. I definitely prefer the lighter head, or I should say, the lighter head is a more familiar feeling with my swing.
[/quote]

Thanks for the update and looking forward to reading the full review. Is the i25 still in the mix? I played 9 the other day with the i25 and the first thing I noticed is how much lighter the club felt compared to the CT or SLDR. To confirm my hunch I went to the range with my old 909 D2 and I was swinging the club a lot better compared to the heavier CT. For me I think I try and overpower the heavier head whereas I'm making a better swing with the lighter club. I wish TM would release the different weights for the SLDR. Would love to try the SLDR again with a lighter feel.

[Hookasaurus Rex]

[quote name='sbjinx' timestamp='1395160955' post='8897573']
[quote name='Pure745' timestamp='1395106519' post='8894275']
[quote name='gambit' timestamp='1395094012' post='8892765']
The weights of the heads are very interesting, primarily because of the feedback that the CT 2.0 is so heavy coming in at D8. Does the 430 come in at a D7-8 also? Also interesting to see that the 430 was heavier than the 460 tour.

Pure - did you find the head weights cause the shafts to play just a little softer to flex?
[/quote]

I'm not sure the weights of the SLDR and Covert adapters, but the 430 is definitely heavy, just not sure it's as heavy as the Covert. The weights of the head definitely changes the way the shafts play and is why the 661/757 had to be tipped. I knew most of the difference between the tour issue SLDR heads were the fact that they were lighter, but never thought much of it till recently when trying different OTR heads with the same shafts. I definitely prefer the lighter head, or I should say, the lighter head is a more familiar feeling with my swing.
[/quote]

Thanks for the update and looking forward to reading the full review. Is the i25 still in the mix? I played 9 the other day with the i25 and the first thing I noticed is how much lighter the club felt compared to the CT or SLDR. To confirm my hunch I went to the range with my old 909 D2 and I was swinging the club a lot better compared to the heavier CT. For me I think I try and overpower the heavier head whereas I'm making a better swing with the lighter club. I wish TM would release the different weights for the SLDR. Would love to try the SLDR again with a lighter feel.
[/quote]

How did you like the i25? I'm in the midst of trying to decide between thei25 and SLDR. About the same length of the tee? When you say lighter, do you mean SW or total weight? Thanks...

[sbjinx]

[quote name='Hookasaurus Rex' timestamp='1395171824' post='8898963']
[quote name='sbjinx' timestamp='1395160955' post='8897573']
[quote name='Pure745' timestamp='1395106519' post='8894275']
[quote name='gambit' timestamp='1395094012' post='8892765']
The weights of the heads are very interesting, primarily because of the feedback that the CT 2.0 is so heavy coming in at D8. Does the 430 come in at a D7-8 also? Also interesting to see that the 430 was heavier than the 460 tour.

Pure - did you find the head weights cause the shafts to play just a little softer to flex?
[/quote]

I'm not sure the weights of the SLDR and Covert adapters, but the 430 is definitely heavy, just not sure it's as heavy as the Covert. The weights of the head definitely changes the way the shafts play and is why the 661/757 had to be tipped. I knew most of the difference between the tour issue SLDR heads were the fact that they were lighter, but never thought much of it till recently when trying different OTR heads with the same shafts. I definitely prefer the lighter head, or I should say, the lighter head is a more familiar feeling with my swing.
[/quote]

Thanks for the update and looking forward to reading the full review. Is the i25 still in the mix? I played 9 the other day with the i25 and the first thing I noticed is how much lighter the club felt compared to the CT or SLDR. To confirm my hunch I went to the range with my old 909 D2 and I was swinging the club a lot better compared to the heavier CT. For me I think I try and overpower the heavier head whereas I'm making a better swing with the lighter club. I wish TM would release the different weights for the SLDR. Would love to try the SLDR again with a lighter feel.
[/quote]

How did you like the i25? I'm in the midst of trying to decide between thei25 and SLDR. About the same length of the tee? When you say lighter, do you mean SW or total weight? Thanks...
[/quote]

[color=#222222]I only had the i25 for 9 holes but I didnt think the distance was any noticeably different.[/color] There is a long/wide-open par 4 which I use to measure on-course distance/accuracy and I was within my normal second shot range (140-150). With the SLDR and CT 2.0 I've been within a PW distance but on average I'm usually around where I ended up with the i25 (give or take).

when I say lighter, its SW. I've never measued the actual weight of the clubs but in my hand, the i25 feels lighter compared to the SLR or CT.

[gambit]

[quote name='sbjinx' timestamp='1395174883' post='8899301']
[quote name='Hookasaurus Rex' timestamp='1395171824' post='8898963']
[quote name='sbjinx' timestamp='1395160955' post='8897573']
[quote name='Pure745' timestamp='1395106519' post='8894275']
[quote name='gambit' timestamp='1395094012' post='8892765']
The weights of the heads are very interesting, primarily because of the feedback that the CT 2.0 is so heavy coming in at D8. Does the 430 come in at a D7-8 also? Also interesting to see that the 430 was heavier than the 460 tour.

Pure - did you find the head weights cause the shafts to play just a little softer to flex?
[/quote]

I'm not sure the weights of the SLDR and Covert adapters, but the 430 is definitely heavy, just not sure it's as heavy as the Covert. The weights of the head definitely changes the way the shafts play and is why the 661/757 had to be tipped. I knew most of the difference between the tour issue SLDR heads were the fact that they were lighter, but never thought much of it till recently when trying different OTR heads with the same shafts. I definitely prefer the lighter head, or I should say, the lighter head is a more familiar feeling with my swing.
[/quote]

Thanks for the update and looking forward to reading the full review. Is the i25 still in the mix? I played 9 the other day with the i25 and the first thing I noticed is how much lighter the club felt compared to the CT or SLDR. To confirm my hunch I went to the range with my old 909 D2 and I was swinging the club a lot better compared to the heavier CT. For me I think I try and overpower the heavier head whereas I'm making a better swing with the lighter club. I wish TM would release the different weights for the SLDR. Would love to try the SLDR again with a lighter feel.
[/quote]

How did you like the i25? I'm in the midst of trying to decide between thei25 and SLDR. About the same length of the tee? When you say lighter, do you mean SW or total weight? Thanks...
[/quote]

[color=#222222]I only had the i25 for 9 holes but I didnt think the distance was any noticeably different.[/color] There is a long/wide-open par 4 which I use to measure on-course distance/accuracy and I was within my normal second shot range (140-150). With the SLDR and CT 2.0 I've been within a PW distance but on average I'm usually around where I ended up with the i25 (give or take).

when I say lighter, its SW. I've never measued the actual weight of the clubs but in my hand, the i25 feels lighter compared to the SLR or CT.
[/quote]

What shafts were you playing in each of the heads and was the SLDR a 430 or 460? I'm going to play the CT 2.0 with a Speeder 6.3 TS this week and just picked up an i25 that I will be putting an AD DI in.

[hayzooos]

[quote name='sbjinx' timestamp='1395174883' post='8899301']
[quote name='Hookasaurus Rex' timestamp='1395171824' post='8898963']
[quote name='sbjinx' timestamp='1395160955' post='8897573']
[quote name='Pure745' timestamp='1395106519' post='8894275']
[quote name='gambit' timestamp='1395094012' post='8892765']
The weights of the heads are very interesting, primarily because of the feedback that the CT 2.0 is so heavy coming in at D8. Does the 430 come in at a D7-8 also? Also interesting to see that the 430 was heavier than the 460 tour.

Pure - did you find the head weights cause the shafts to play just a little softer to flex?
[/quote]

I'm not sure the weights of the SLDR and Covert adapters, but the 430 is definitely heavy, just not sure it's as heavy as the Covert. The weights of the head definitely changes the way the shafts play and is why the 661/757 had to be tipped. I knew most of the difference between the tour issue SLDR heads were the fact that they were lighter, but never thought much of it till recently when trying different OTR heads with the same shafts. I definitely prefer the lighter head, or I should say, the lighter head is a more familiar feeling with my swing.
[/quote]

Thanks for the update and looking forward to reading the full review. Is the i25 still in the mix? I played 9 the other day with the i25 and the first thing I noticed is how much lighter the club felt compared to the CT or SLDR. To confirm my hunch I went to the range with my old 909 D2 and I was swinging the club a lot better compared to the heavier CT. For me I think I try and overpower the heavier head whereas I'm making a better swing with the lighter club. I wish TM would release the different weights for the SLDR. Would love to try the SLDR again with a lighter feel.
[/quote]

How did you like the i25? I'm in the midst of trying to decide between thei25 and SLDR. About the same length of the tee? When you say lighter, do you mean SW or total weight? Thanks...
[/quote]

I only had the i25 for 9 holes but I didnt think the distance was any noticeably different. There is a long/wide-open par 4 which I use to measure on-course distance/accuracy and I was within my normal second shot range (140-150). With the SLDR and CT 2.0 I've been within a PW distance but on average I'm usually around where I ended up with the i25 (give or take).

when I say lighter, its SW. I've never measued the actual weight of the clubs but in my hand, the i25 feels lighter compared to the [b]SLR or CT[/b].
[/quote]

Not surprising as I believe both the CT 2.0 and the SLDR tip the swingweight scale quite heavy stock. Somewhere north of D5/6 from what I remember. That i25 is probably D2, at most, unless you had it lengthened.

[sbjinx]

I had the stock PWR 75 tour stiff in the i25, TP 6.3 in the 460 SLDR, KK and 661 Speeder in the CT. The longest drive for me was with the 430 SLDR with the stock shaft. I mean when I caught one good, it was a lot longer than any other driver I've tried. It was also most inconsistent driver for me and I gave up on it after a few rounds.

[MizunoJunky]

Hey Pure745, what's your opinion between the RFX and new Covert Tour 2.0?

[Pure745]

[quote name='sbjinx' timestamp='1395160955' post='8897573']
Thanks for the update and looking forward to reading the full review. Is the i25 still in the mix? I played 9 the other day with the i25 and the first thing I noticed is how much lighter the club felt compared to the CT or SLDR. To confirm my hunch I went to the range with my old 909 D2 and I was swinging the club a lot better compared to the heavier CT. For me I think I try and overpower the heavier head whereas I'm making a better swing with the lighter club. I wish TM would release the different weights for the SLDR. Would love to try the SLDR again with a lighter feel.
[/quote]

I haven't bought the i25 yet, and don't plan to until I hit the Trackman and test one with a proper shaft. If it outperforms other drivers I'll be hitting, I will buy one and set it up and take it on the course. I just don't see that happening, Ping products just have not done it for me in the past but willing to give the i25 a shot. If Hayzoos is right, and the i25 is only at D2, I'm not sure I'm going to like such a light head. I like a heavier head because I usually play my driver around 44.5-45" depending, but some of the SLDR heads I have seen have just been really heavy, too heavy to swing! The lighter weight of the TD stamped SLDR is really a big difference maker for me, paired with the Rogue, it has been one of the best drivers I have used. My bad/horrible shots are remarkably straight and long.. like to the point where people tell you "good shot" you feel bad about how bad you just hit it

[quote name='MizunoJunky' timestamp='1395179645' post='8899817']
Hey Pure745, what's your opinion between the RFX and new Covert Tour 2.0?
[/quote]

Covert Tour 2.0. RFX is nice, can probably found for dirt cheap right now.. but I found it to be overly fade biased and the construction to be very cheap looking and feeling. Performance is good on both, I think the CT2.0 will be higher launching, more forgiving, and more neutral biased.. plus the FlexLoft gives a lot of adjustment options. The upside of the RFX is that it has a great classic shape, sounds good, and has black paint on top.

[MizunoJunky]

[quote name='Pure745' timestamp='1395290722' post='8909307']
[quote name='sbjinx' timestamp='1395160955' post='8897573']
Thanks for the update and looking forward to reading the full review. Is the i25 still in the mix? I played 9 the other day with the i25 and the first thing I noticed is how much lighter the club felt compared to the CT or SLDR. To confirm my hunch I went to the range with my old 909 D2 and I was swinging the club a lot better compared to the heavier CT. For me I think I try and overpower the heavier head whereas I'm making a better swing with the lighter club. I wish TM would release the different weights for the SLDR. Would love to try the SLDR again with a lighter feel.
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I haven't bought the i25 yet, and don't plan to until I hit the Trackman and test one with a proper shaft. If it outperforms other drivers I'll be hitting, I will buy one and set it up and take it on the course. I just don't see that happening, Ping products just have not done it for me in the past but willing to give the i25 a shot. If Hayzoos is right, and the i25 is only at D2, I'm not sure I'm going to like such a light head. I like a heavier head because I usually play my driver around 44.5-45" depending, but some of the SLDR heads I have seen have just been really heavy, too heavy to swing! The lighter weight of the TD stamped SLDR is really a big difference maker for me, paired with the Rogue, it has been one of the best drivers I have used. My bad/horrible shots are remarkably straight and long.. like to the point where people tell you "good shot" you feel bad about how bad you just hit it

[quote name='MizunoJunky' timestamp='1395179645' post='8899817']
Hey Pure745, what's your opinion between the RFX and new Covert Tour 2.0?
[/quote]

Covert Tour 2.0. RFX is nice, can probably found for dirt cheap right now.. but I found it to be overly fade biased and the construction to be very cheap looking and feeling. Performance is good on both, I think the CT2.0 will be higher launching, more forgiving, and more neutral biased.. plus the FlexLoft gives a lot of adjustment options. The upside of the RFX is that it has a great classic shape, sounds good, and has black paint on top.
[/quote]

Thanks Pure745!

[Deuce78]

Pure I saw earlier your 430 head weight was 200g. what is the swingweight and playing length of your 430? I am getting a 430 and can choose the head weight so this will help me guage my desired swingweight. Thanks.

[Pure745]

[quote name='Deuce78' timestamp='1395682541' post='8939753']
Pure I saw earlier your 430 head weight was 200g. what is the swingweight and playing length of your 430? I am getting a 430 and can choose the head weight so this will help me guage my desired swingweight. Thanks.
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I want to say it was around D4ish. Would have to weight it again to be certain. The head is 200g w/o the adapter, so keep that in mind. You can definitely feel a difference in feel and shaft flex with the heavier head, at that point it's personal preference as to which you prefer.

[Pure716]

[quote name='Pure745' timestamp='1395683823' post='8939959']
[quote name='Deuce78' timestamp='1395682541' post='8939753']
Pure I saw earlier your 430 head weight was 200g. what is the swingweight and playing length of your 430? I am getting a 430 and can choose the head weight so this will help me guage my desired swingweight. Thanks.
[/quote]

I want to say it was around D4ish. Would have to weight it again to be certain. The head is 200g w/o the adapter, so keep that in mind. You can definitely feel a difference in feel and shaft flex with the heavier head, at that point it's personal preference as to which you prefer.
[/quote]

This interests me. I don't recall what you play your clubs at length-wise, but do you keep it consistent with your driver? For example, I play my irons and wedges at +1/2", the SLDR is 45.5" which is longer than today's standard 45" driver. If you were me, would you play the driver at 45.5 being that I play my other clubs an extra half an inch, or still cut it down to 45?

[Pure745]

[quote name='FSUbulldog' timestamp='1395691832' post='8941001']
[quote name='Pure745' timestamp='1395683823' post='8939959']
[quote name='Deuce78' timestamp='1395682541' post='8939753']
Pure I saw earlier your 430 head weight was 200g. what is the swingweight and playing length of your 430? I am getting a 430 and can choose the head weight so this will help me guage my desired swingweight. Thanks.
[/quote]

I want to say it was around D4ish. Would have to weight it again to be certain. The head is 200g w/o the adapter, so keep that in mind. You can definitely feel a difference in feel and shaft flex with the heavier head, at that point it's personal preference as to which you prefer.
[/quote]

This interests me. I don't recall what you play your clubs at length-wise, but do you keep it consistent with your driver? For example, I play my irons and wedges at +1/2", the SLDR is 45.5" which is longer than today's standard 45" driver. If you were me, would you play the driver at 45.5 being that I play my other clubs an extra half an inch, or still cut it down to 45?
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Play everything 44.5-45" in the driver and 42.5-43" in the 3 wood. I play my irons all - 1/2" or traditional Mizuno specs on L/L/L. I would say it would depend on what swing weight you like and how playable the driver is when you lengthen it. I saw some consistently higher ball speeds with a 45.5" driver on the Trackman, but I prefer the shorter driver to keep it straighter. All up to you on the extra 1/2", if you're tall, I might keep it 45.5 just watch the shaft stiffness.

[Pure716]

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[quote name='FSUbulldog' timestamp='1395691832' post='8941001']
[quote name='Pure745' timestamp='1395683823' post='8939959']
[quote name='Deuce78' timestamp='1395682541' post='8939753']
Pure I saw earlier your 430 head weight was 200g. what is the swingweight and playing length of your 430? I am getting a 430 and can choose the head weight so this will help me guage my desired swingweight. Thanks.
[/quote]

I want to say it was around D4ish. Would have to weight it again to be certain. The head is 200g w/o the adapter, so keep that in mind. You can definitely feel a difference in feel and shaft flex with the heavier head, at that point it's personal preference as to which you prefer.
[/quote]

This interests me. I don't recall what you play your clubs at length-wise, but do you keep it consistent with your driver? For example, I play my irons and wedges at +1/2", the SLDR is 45.5" which is longer than today's standard 45" driver. If you were me, would you play the driver at 45.5 being that I play my other clubs an extra half an inch, or still cut it down to 45?
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Play everything 44.5-45" in the driver and 42.5-43" in the 3 wood. I play my irons all - 1/2" or traditional Mizuno specs on L/L/L. I would say it would depend on what swing weight you like and how playable the driver is when you lengthen it. I saw some consistently higher ball speeds with a 45.5" driver on the Trackman, but I prefer the shorter driver to keep it straighter. All up to you on the extra 1/2", if you're tall, I might keep it 45.5 just watch the shaft stiffness.
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Thanks! I ordered the Tour Spec 6.2 uncut, so I can pick when it arrives. I will probably start at 45.5" since I was hitting it well. Also, it's much easier to shorten half an inch then raise.

[Pure745]

Sorry this thread is taking so long to roll out.. have had a few big matches at my club and our club team has advanced to the quarterfinals for Team Play. I also have a stroke play event this weekend, plus a Team Play match. Needless to say, I have been working on scoring and tinkering with clubs has taken a back seat. The SLDR 460 tour issue head w/ Rogue is so good, I don't see anything coming close.

There was a Callaway demo day at my club today, so I did finally hit the BBA with a better shaft (Tour Spec 6.2x), it definitely did this head more justice than the stock ZT. Unfortunately, there was no power to supply the Trackman so I didn't get numbers, but it was pretty long and more forgiving than the 430, but still not better than my 460. I really wish the Trackman worked, I would have had some solid #'s to post. I did find an Authorized TM fitting center near me that uses and outdoor Flightscope, which might be the place I end up doing this shootout. I will just have to source some clubs since this won't have a fitting cart for Callaway or Ping.

[GC70]

Congratulations keep up the solid play. You play more then the tour players.

Next year the tour?

[bjno1300]

Thanks for the great thread pure. Was wondering if you have been able to hit the big Bertha fairways and if so could you compare it to the 913fd , rfe , sldr and stage 2? I have RFE now in driver and 3w but have been eyeing a 913fd Thanks again always enjoy your info.

[stage1350]

Going with the 460 SLDR instead of the 430? Spin? Forgiveness? or both?

[Pure745]

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Going with the 460 SLDR instead of the 430? Spin? Forgiveness? or both?
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Mainly forgiveness. It has been one of the straightest setups I have hit, while still giving me the distance I like to see when I hit one solid. The problem I had with the 913 D3 was that although it was really straight, on good shots, it wasn't very long. I think you will like the 430, it's really long and low launching and spinning, I just think the 460 is the better head for me. When my swing is on, the 430 is unreal, but when it's a little off, it's way more punishing than the 460.

[QMany]

When are the big matches?