It just me or are a lot of pros switching to Nippon Iron Shafts?

[jcg132]

I am in the market for new irons, could you guys recommend a Modus iron shaft for me?

 

My driver SS tops out at 100mph, i hit my 7 iron 150-160. I get parallel to the ground in my backswing but have an early release. Sweeper/picker.

 

Thinking of going Modus 120 R flex or 105 S flex.

 

Any help appreciated - thanks!

 

Would love to hear Mark's thoughts since he seems to be the resident expert!

[Dent]

So I've been doing some more thinking on my shafts. And these are the measurements I was given for my 120xs when I bought them. What is the Tip to first step measurement telling me?

 

5 iron - 37 inches from tip to butt. 15 inches from tip to first step.

6 iron - 36.5 inches from tip to butt. 14.5 inches from tip to first step.

7 iron - 36 inches from tip to butt. 14 inches from tip to first step.

8 iron - 35.5 inches from tip to butt. 13.5 inches from tip to first step.

9 iron - 35 inches from tip to butt. 13 inches from tip to first step.

PW - 34.5 inches from tip to butt. 12.5 inches from tip to first step.

[uW0tM8]

For anyone (possibly Mark):

I've been testing shafts and have narrowed it down to PX 6.5 and Modus 105x. Mizzy shaft optimizer results (96 - 4,3,4,5) put me in PX 6.5 as my #1 result, w/ Modus 105x at #8. However, just from hitting them yesterday, I like the Modus better. Can anyone foresee me having issues playing either of those shafts based on my speed? And if I go with Modus 105, what should I put in my wedges? I hit both on trackman and my launch characteristics were as follows:

 

Modus 105 - Launch 15.8-17.1, Spin 5400-6300, dispersion was immaculate. Out of 30 balls (pretty old balls sadly, thus the big change in numbers) probably mis-hit 4 of them.

 

Px - Launch 14-15.3*, spin 4900-6000, dispersion was pretty solid, but tended to feel a bit outta sync with these. Missed a couple left, a couple right.

[Yanki01]

can't remember my numbers with the S300 but the 105x i did launch it a little higher and spun more hitting a 6i. my 6i SS was 89. side note, on long irons i had a hard time getting the right flight i wanted with the S300 - the 105x feel so damn smooth it's so nice to see. my miss hits were not as bad on the 105x as they were on the S300. my natural fade was tighter with the 105x as sometimes the S300 would just turn into a slice.

 

i have SM6 52, 56 & 60 and on all 3 i went with the 8i DGX100 shaft. never got to try any modus shaft in my wedges because i had made the decision on the 8i X100 shaft before getting the modus and went with it. really like it so don't think i'll be changing it.

[markheardjr]

I am in the market for new irons, could you guys recommend a Modus iron shaft for me?

 

My driver SS tops out at 100mph, i hit my 7 iron 150-160. I get parallel to the ground in my backswing but have an early release. Sweeper/picker.

 

Thinking of going Modus 120 R flex or 105 S flex.

 

Any help appreciated - thanks!

 

Would love to hear Mark's thoughts since he seems to be the resident expert!

I'd also suggest 120S if you're looking for a lower flight and don't suffer from too low spin. 105S possibly if you are ok with a slightly higher flight than 120, need to keep spin in check.

[markheardjr]

For anyone (possibly Mark):

I've been testing shafts and have narrowed it down to PX 6.5 and Modus 105x. Mizzy shaft optimizer results (96 - 4,3,4,5) put me in PX 6.5 as my #1 result, w/ Modus 105x at #8. However, just from hitting them yesterday, I like the Modus better. Can anyone foresee me having issues playing either of those shafts based on my speed? And if I go with Modus 105, what should I put in my wedges? I hit both on trackman and my launch characteristics were as follows:

 

Modus 105 - Launch 15.8-17.1, Spin 5400-6300, dispersion was immaculate. Out of 30 balls (pretty old balls sadly, thus the big change in numbers) probably mis-hit 4 of them.

 

Px - Launch 14-15.3*, spin 4900-6000, dispersion was pretty solid, but tended to feel a bit outta sync with these. Missed a couple left, a couple right.

PX 6.5 might be a little too much for you and the spin seems a tad low. Could also be swinging harder and trying to force the shaft to work for you. 105X is smooth and feels like it is doing all the work so you concentrate on a nice smooth swing.

 

For wedges I usually like to go a touch heavier, could try the Modus Wedge 115 or 125 and if they spin or launch too much could drop in the original WV wedge in a 105 or 115. Also a fan of the Tour125 iron shaft in wedges, so could check out like a 105S or X maybe in a wedge. Similar profile to 105 so will feel familiar in the set IMO.

[jcg132]

I am in the market for new irons, could you guys recommend a Modus iron shaft for me?

 

My driver SS tops out at 100mph, i hit my 7 iron 150-160. I get parallel to the ground in my backswing but have an early release. Sweeper/picker.

 

Thinking of going Modus 120 R flex or 105 S flex.

 

Any help appreciated - thanks!

 

Would love to hear Mark's thoughts since he seems to be the resident expert!

I'd also suggest 120S if you're looking for a lower flight and don't suffer from too low spin. 105S possibly if you are ok with a slightly higher flight than 120, need to keep spin in check.

 

I'm definitely a higher spin player. 120S seems like the ticket! Thanks for the advice

[uW0tM8]

For anyone (possibly Mark):

I've been testing shafts and have narrowed it down to PX 6.5 and Modus 105x. Mizzy shaft optimizer results (96 - 4,3,4,5) put me in PX 6.5 as my #1 result, w/ Modus 105x at #8. However, just from hitting them yesterday, I like the Modus better. Can anyone foresee me having issues playing either of those shafts based on my speed? And if I go with Modus 105, what should I put in my wedges? I hit both on trackman and my launch characteristics were as follows:

 

Modus 105 - Launch 15.8-17.1, Spin 5400-6300, dispersion was immaculate. Out of 30 balls (pretty old balls sadly, thus the big change in numbers) probably mis-hit 4 of them.

 

Px - Launch 14-15.3*, spin 4900-6000, dispersion was pretty solid, but tended to feel a bit outta sync with these. Missed a couple left, a couple right.

PX 6.5 might be a little too much for you and the spin seems a tad low. Could also be swinging harder and trying to force the shaft to work for you. 105X is smooth and feels like it is doing all the work so you concentrate on a nice smooth swing.

 

For wedges I usually like to go a touch heavier, could try the Modus Wedge 115 or 125 and if they spin or launch too much could drop in the original WV wedge in a 105 or 115. Also a fan of the Tour125 iron shaft in wedges, so could check out like a 105S or X maybe in a wedge. Similar profile to 105 so will feel familiar in the set IMO.

I gotcha! I don't really feel like I have to force the PX, but they definitely don't feel as easy to swing as the Modus. My only real concern is that with the Modus, my 6i speed went up to 98 on trackman, and even though I still never had anything spin too much, 17* launch is pretty high for a 6i. Im also used to playing X100 in my wedges, and I take full swings at them when needed, so I'm leaning more towards maybe the 120x or 125x in my wedges. Would there be a discernible difference in flight with either shaft? From what I've read I believe the 120 is lower launching

[Coheed]

Hi Mark,

Wondering if you could help me picking the proper shaft. I was leaning towards the Modus 3 Tour 125X SSx1.

 

Currently playing Project X 6.5 SSx1 in my MP59s and played CTaper S+ previous.

I loved the CTapers. Performance and flight were exactly what I wanted but tips bent to on me numerous times.

Hate Project X feel and all around just ok performance.

 

6i is 200y club with aggressive transition and early release. High ball hitter with high spin.

 

Let me know what you think and thanks in advance.

Coheed

[Dent]

So I've been doing some more thinking on my shafts. And these are the measurements I was given for my 120xs when I bought them. What is the Tip to first step measurement telling me?

 

5 iron - 37 inches from tip to butt. 15 inches from tip to first step.

6 iron - 36.5 inches from tip to butt. 14.5 inches from tip to first step.

7 iron - 36 inches from tip to butt. 14 inches from tip to first step.

8 iron - 35.5 inches from tip to butt. 13.5 inches from tip to first step.

9 iron - 35 inches from tip to butt. 13 inches from tip to first step.

PW - 34.5 inches from tip to butt. 12.5 inches from tip to first step.

 

Anyone? Would like to know what I'm getting into before I put these in..

 

Perhaps this doesn't tell me anything?

[3step]

So I've been doing some more thinking on my shafts. And these are the measurements I was given for my 120xs when I bought them. What is the Tip to first step measurement telling me?

 

5 iron - 37 inches from tip to butt. 15 inches from tip to first step.

6 iron - 36.5 inches from tip to butt. 14.5 inches from tip to first step.

7 iron - 36 inches from tip to butt. 14 inches from tip to first step.

8 iron - 35.5 inches from tip to butt. 13.5 inches from tip to first step.

9 iron - 35 inches from tip to butt. 13 inches from tip to first step.

PW - 34.5 inches from tip to butt. 12.5 inches from tip to first step.

 

Anyone? Would like to know what I'm getting into before I put these in..

 

Perhaps this doesn't tell me anything?

 

Your set of shafts has been trimmed, and if they are labeled, X flex, then this set has been trimmed from the butt end. The traditional X flex TOUR120 wedge shaft has a tip to first step measurement of 12 1/2", and then 1/2" increments moving to the 9, 8, 7, etc. Thus,the tip to first step measurements are consistent with a traditional TOUR120 X flex set. Make sense?

 

3step

[markheardjr]

Hi Mark,

Wondering if you could help me picking the proper shaft. I was leaning towards the Modus 3 Tour 125X SSx1.

 

Currently playing Project X 6.5 SSx1 in my MP59s and played CTaper S+ previous.

I loved the CTapers. Performance and flight were exactly what I wanted but tips bent to on me numerous times.

Hate Project X feel and all around just ok performance.

 

6i is 200y club with aggressive transition and early release. High ball hitter with high spin.

 

Let me know what you think and thanks in advance.

Coheed

125X, not soft stepped. But also would like to see you try 120X hardstepped.

[Coheed]

Hi Mark,

Wondering if you could help me picking the proper shaft. I was leaning towards the Modus 3 Tour 125X SSx1.

 

Currently playing Project X 6.5 SSx1 in my MP59s and played CTaper S+ previous.

I loved the CTapers. Performance and flight were exactly what I wanted but tips bent to on me numerous times.

Hate Project X feel and all around just ok performance.

 

6i is 200y club with aggressive transition and early release. High ball hitter with high spin.

 

Let me know what you think and thanks in advance.

Coheed

125X, not soft stepped. But also would like to see you try 120X hardstepped.

 

Great info, I really appreciate you taking the time to reply.

I was thinking 120 TX straight in.

Thank you,

Coheed

[markheardjr]

Hi Mark,

Wondering if you could help me picking the proper shaft. I was leaning towards the Modus 3 Tour 125X SSx1.

 

Currently playing Project X 6.5 SSx1 in my MP59s and played CTaper S+ previous.

I loved the CTapers. Performance and flight were exactly what I wanted but tips bent to on me numerous times.

Hate Project X feel and all around just ok performance.

 

6i is 200y club with aggressive transition and early release. High ball hitter with high spin.

 

Let me know what you think and thanks in advance.

Coheed

125X, not soft stepped. But also would like to see you try 120X hardstepped.

 

Great info, I really appreciate you taking the time to reply.

I was thinking 120 TX straight in.

Thank you,

Coheed

If you said CTaperX then maybe 120TX. I actually typed 120TX softstepped but then deleted it. If you played CTaperS+ hardxstepped I'd say 120TX softstepped but you said 120 S+ which makes me think 120X hardstepped is probably enough shaft. You just have to get passed how soft it feels due to the super soft butt section. Also 6.5 soft-stepped to me is closer to a 120X hardstepped than 120TX softstepped. 6.5 straight in or even hardstepped would be more like a 120TX. 7.0 may 120TX. But 120 is a softer feeling profile but overall it is quite stiff.

[Coheed]

Hi Mark,

Wondering if you could help me picking the proper shaft. I was leaning towards the Modus 3 Tour 125X SSx1.

 

Currently playing Project X 6.5 SSx1 in my MP59s and played CTaper S+ previous.

I loved the CTapers. Performance and flight were exactly what I wanted but tips bent to on me numerous times.

Hate Project X feel and all around just ok performance.

 

6i is 200y club with aggressive transition and early release. High ball hitter with high spin.

 

Let me know what you think and thanks in advance.

Coheed

125X, not soft stepped. But also would like to see you try 120X hardstepped.

 

Great info, I really appreciate you taking the time to reply.

I was thinking 120 TX straight in.

Thank you,

Coheed

If you said CTaperX then maybe 120TX. I actually typed 120TX softstepped but then deleted it. If you played CTaperS+ hardxstepped I'd say 120TX softstepped but you said 120 S+ which makes me think 120X hardstepped is probably enough shaft. You just have to get passed how soft it feels due to the super soft butt section. Also 6.5 soft-stepped to me is closer to a 120X hardstepped than 120TX softstepped. 6.5 straight in or even hardstepped would be more like a 120TX. 7.0 may 120TX. But 120 is a softer feeling profile but overall it is quite stiff.

Understood...this is exactly the guidance I was looking for. I don't have any shops that carry demos to try so this helps a ton.

So for weight 125x straight in. Otherwise 120x hsx1.

Thanks again!

[SwooshLT]

Probably answered but will the 105 slot between c taper and kbs tour in performance as it does with 120/130 modus?

[markheardjr]

Probably answered but will the 105 slot between c taper and kbs tour in performance as it does with 120/130 modus?

105 is in between CTaper Lite and KBS Tour IMO. 125 is closer to KBS Tour meets DG but I suppose could be where CTaper 130 meets KBS Tour but would be more KBS tour than CTaper. In my experience, KBS Tour was mid/high launch and mid/high spin. Tour125 is more Mid-launch and mid spin.

[Warrick]

As someone who was in C-Taper 130X, but probably should have been in 125 S+, I have found the Tour125 S a fantastic transition away from C-Taper.

[SwooshLT]

Probably answered but will the 105 slot between c taper and kbs tour in performance as it does with 120/130 modus?

105 is in between CTaper Lite and KBS Tour IMO. 125 is closer to KBS Tour meets DG but I suppose could be where CTaper 130 meets KBS Tour but would be more KBS tour than CTaper. In my experience, KBS Tour was mid/high launch and mid/high spin. Tour125 is more Mid-launch and mid spin.

 

Thanks for responding.....Older guy but still enjoy stiffer tip action....ctaper regular 1/2" over currently in one set and kbs tour STD length regular flex in another with thoughts of modus 105 regular 1/4" over going into my RSI tp heads....Played 120 stiff soft stepped 3 yrs ago but falling in speed...Also tried set of pings with set stiff which were a shade too demanding.... Actually they weren't bad. That's a product made by Nippon,correct?

[Hot Rod 71]

As someone who was in C-Taper 130X, but probably should have been in 125 S+, I have found the Tour125 S a fantastic transition away from C-Taper.

 

Do you find the Modus 125 Stiff is comparable to the C-Taper 125 S+ in terms of flex?

 

Have you tried the Modus 125X of 125X soft stepped?

 

I can play the C-Taper in S+, but I like the feel of the Stiff straight in a little better.

[hwwong]

Seems this thread has turned into an online fitting session.

 

So...If i'm in KBS Tour 130x, I'm guessing Modus 3 130x as well? What differences will I see?

[Warrick]

As someone who was in C-Taper 130X, but probably should have been in 125 S+, I have found the Tour125 S a fantastic transition away from C-Taper.

 

Do you find the Modus 125 Stiff is comparable to the C-Taper 125 S+ in terms of flex?

 

Have you tried the Modus 125X of 125X soft stepped?

 

I can play the C-Taper in S+, but I like the feel of the Stiff straight in a little better.

 

125 was the first Nippon I ever tried, loved it right away. The C-Taper seems a bit more rigid through the length of the shaft, but I can absolutely get after the Modus.

 

The 125 would seem perfect for someone coming from c-taper s, or s+, IMO. I had 0 pain in my elbows/forearms/wrists after 54 holes last weekend.

[jcg132]

I am in the market for new irons, could you guys recommend a Modus iron shaft for me?

 

My driver SS tops out at 100mph, i hit my 7 iron 150-160. I get parallel to the ground in my backswing but have an early release. Sweeper/picker.

 

Thinking of going Modus 120 R flex or 105 S flex.

 

Any help appreciated - thanks!

 

Would love to hear Mark's thoughts since he seems to be the resident expert!

I'd also suggest 120S if you're looking for a lower flight and don't suffer from too low spin. 105S possibly if you are ok with a slightly higher flight than 120, need to keep spin in check.

 

I'm definitely a higher spin player. 120S seems like the ticket! Thanks for the advice

 

Well I just ordered a Vokey PW with the 120S for testing. If all goes well I will blindly order my new irons with the 120S because, well, that's what we do here on WRX! Thanks again for the help.

[DNice26]

I have yet to play golf with the Modus 130 stiff but have now had multiple range sessions. My thoughts: I really like them in the long irons, but as the clubs get shorter, they get a bit too loose feeling through the hitting zone. I'm thinking that perhaps having the, hard stepped would have worked out better for my swing. They are sort of an odd duck of a shaft. They swing sort of heavy and stout, yet through the hitting zone I can feel the softer tip through impact. I love the smooth and deep impact you get from them when swung with the right tempo. I'm hoping to play my first round with them tomorrow. So far I do like them and I'm hopeful they will unseat my tried and true CTaper S+ shafts. We'll see....

[Morry]

I have yet to play golf with the Modus 130 stiff but have now had multiple range sessions. My thoughts: I really like them in the long irons, but as the clubs get shorter, they get a bit too loose feeling through the hitting zone. I'm thinking that perhaps having the, hard stepped would have worked out better for my swing. They are sort of an odd duck of a shaft. They swing sort of heavy and stout, yet through the hitting zone I can feel the softer tip through impact. I love the smooth and deep impact you get from them when swung with the right tempo. I'm hoping to play my first round with them tomorrow. So far I do like them and I'm hopeful they will unseat my tried and true CTaper S+ shafts. We'll see....

Very interested in how you find them

I have the 130s as well - find them incredible in the longer irons ...more indifferent to other shafts in the shorter irons

overall, incredible smoothness and nuclear impact when released properly

put 125tx wedge shafts in the sw and lw as well

[DNice26]

I have yet to play golf with the Modus 130 stiff but have now had multiple range sessions. My thoughts: I really like them in the long irons, but as the clubs get shorter, they get a bit too loose feeling through the hitting zone. I'm thinking that perhaps having the, hard stepped would have worked out better for my swing. They are sort of an odd duck of a shaft. They swing sort of heavy and stout, yet through the hitting zone I can feel the softer tip through impact. I love the smooth and deep impact you get from them when swung with the right tempo. I'm hoping to play my first round with them tomorrow. So far I do like them and I'm hopeful they will unseat my tried and true CTaper S+ shafts. We'll see....

Very interested in how you find them

I have the 130s as well - find them incredible in the longer irons ...more indifferent to other shafts in the shorter irons

overall, incredible smoothness and nuclear impact when released properly

put 125tx wedge shafts in the sw and lw as well

Just hit balls at the range. Really hoping these shafts perform on the course, as the range sessions are really nice. Ball flight holds well in cross winds too. I was supposed to get the 130S in my new Miura wedges, but I was too impatient and went with PX 6.0s. Excited to play tomorrow... will chime back in with thoughts.

[360_CS]

I have yet to play golf with the Modus 130 stiff but have now had multiple range sessions. My thoughts: I really like them in the long irons, but as the clubs get shorter, they get a bit too loose feeling through the hitting zone. I'm thinking that perhaps having the, hard stepped would have worked out better for my swing. They are sort of an odd duck of a shaft. They swing sort of heavy and stout, yet through the hitting zone I can feel the softer tip through impact. I love the smooth and deep impact you get from them when swung with the right tempo. I'm hoping to play my first round with them tomorrow. So far I do like them and I'm hopeful they will unseat my tried and true CTaper S+ shafts. We'll see....

Very interested in how you find them

I have the 130s as well - find them incredible in the longer irons ...more indifferent to other shafts in the shorter irons

overall, incredible smoothness and nuclear impact when released properly

put 125tx wedge shafts in the sw and lw as well

 

Yep. I have never hit my longer irons better. I have picked up a bit of distance as well. I was a bit afraid of how the long irons would perform since I only demoed a 7 iron. I might give those wedge shafts a go.

[Hot Rod 71]

As someone who was in C-Taper 130X, but probably should have been in 125 S+, I have found the Tour125 S a fantastic transition away from C-Taper.

 

Do you find the Modus 125 Stiff is comparable to the C-Taper 125 S+ in terms of flex?

 

Have you tried the Modus 125X of 125X soft stepped?

 

I can play the C-Taper in S+, but I like the feel of the Stiff straight in a little better.

 

125 was the first Nippon I ever tried, loved it right away. The C-Taper seems a bit more rigid through the length of the shaft, but I can absolutely get after the Modus.

 

The 125 would seem perfect for someone coming from c-taper s, or s+, IMO. I had 0 pain in my elbows/forearms/wrists after 54 holes last weekend.

 

Just so I am clear on this, you are talking about the 125 Stiff flex?

 

I've been playing X or Xss so long I'm tentative about going back to Stiff. The C-Tapers are a different story, however. The Stiff plays like an Xss.

[drvrwdge]

Had my first round with the 105x's today and they are the shaft for me. No more looking around. I had a few rounds with the Tour V's and actually thought I'd stay with them but after hitting the Nippons I could tell right away they were the ones.

[Eddie]

Hey Mark and Co.,

 

Ive been playing the modus 120s since launch because I love the feel of the shaft. The soft butt stiff tip section has always worked for my driver so when these came out, this was ideal.

 

Ive recently switched to a higher spinning iron head from what I used to play and am now wondering if going up a flex might help keep spin down.

 

Last numbers with a 33deg 7 iron

 

120 bs on stock swing 117 on 3/4

19deg launch

5800 spin

170 carry

 

I know some will say 5800 is too low, but this was off of a mat (which produces lower spin numbers than on grass) but my home club is quite windy and 75% off the approach shots are into the wind so I prefer having to have my equipment to be a touch lower spinning than "ideal."

 

would a ss 120x help manage spin or a moot point?