It just me or are a lot of pros switching to Nippon Iron Shafts?

[jj9000]

Does anyone know if it is possible to soft step a 120S shaft for a wedge? Or would you need to move to an 8 iron shaft because the wedge and 9 iron shaft are the same like DG. Thanks.

 

The wedge shaft is a raw 37" shaft and the 9 is a 37.5" shaft. They are not the same.

 

Thanks - has anyone had success soft stepping the same shaft as their irons in wedges to play a bit softer?

 

I find it interesting that you're bagging an Oban Devotion 04-06 as well as the Modus 120 Stiffs.

 

Profiles are designed for opposite swings.

 

Oban Devo = Quick and Aggressive Transition

Modus 120 = Seems to work best with smooth Transitions

 

Not criticizing...just find it interesting....b/c I have a quick/aggressive transition and I couldn't get the 120s to work (multiple times).

 

Couldn't get through a large bucket without clanking several off the hosel.

[jcg132]

Does anyone know if it is possible to soft step a 120S shaft for a wedge? Or would you need to move to an 8 iron shaft because the wedge and 9 iron shaft are the same like DG. Thanks.

 

The wedge shaft is a raw 37" shaft and the 9 is a 37.5" shaft. They are not the same.

 

Thanks - has anyone had success soft stepping the same shaft as their irons in wedges to play a bit softer?

 

I find it interesting that you're bagging an Oban Devotion 04-06 as well as the Modus 120 Stiffs.

 

Profiles are designed for opposite swings.

 

Oban Devo = Quick and Aggressive Transition

Modus 120 = Seems to work best with smooth Transitions

 

Not criticizing...just find it interesting....b/c I have a quick/aggressive transition and I couldn't get the 120s to work (multiple times).

 

Couldn't get through a large bucket without clanking several off the hosel.

 

I was fit into the Devo with my driver, and self-fit into the Modus in the irons. Both seem to be working well for me.

 

My swing averages slighlty above or below 100 mph, parallel at the top, I would say a moderate transition, and early-mid release. Definitely do not have a ton of lag in my swing.

 

I do like to "go after it" a bit more off the tee and generally never try and over-swing my irons, so that may have something to do with it as well. And I also tend to be higher spin off the tee so need to keep the spin down as well. Previous driver shaft was a HZRDUS Black 65 6.0 so compared to that, the Devotion is actually "smoother".

[markheardjr]

Does anyone know if it is possible to soft step a 120S shaft for a wedge? Or would you need to move to an 8 iron shaft because the wedge and 9 iron shaft are the same like DG. Thanks.

 

The wedge shaft is a raw 37" shaft and the 9 is a 37.5" shaft. They are not the same.

 

Thanks - has anyone had success soft stepping the same shaft as their irons in wedges to play a bit softer?

 

I find it interesting that you're bagging an Oban Devotion 04-06 as well as the Modus 120 Stiffs.

 

Profiles are designed for opposite swings.

 

Oban Devo = Quick and Aggressive Transition

Modus 120 = Seems to work best with smooth Transitions

 

Not criticizing...just find it interesting....b/c I have a quick/aggressive transition and I couldn't get the 120s to work (multiple times).

 

Couldn't get through a large bucket without clanking several off the hosel.

 

I was fit into the Devo with my driver, and self-fit into the Modus in the irons. Both seem to be working well for me.

 

My swing averages slighlty above or below 100 mph, parallel at the top, I would say a moderate transition, and early-mid release. Definitely do not have a ton of lag in my swing.

 

I do like to "go after it" a bit more off the tee and generally never try and over-swing my irons, so that may have something to do with it as well. And I also tend to be higher spin off the tee so need to keep the spin down as well. Previous driver shaft was a HZRDUS Black 65 6.0 so compared to that, the Devotion is actually "smoother".

 

IMO the Devotion is a bit more of a white-board ish type shaft. It has a softer feeling butt section and stiffer tip which gives you a bit of a lower launch and mid-low spin and feels just a touch heavier weighted in the tip like the 120 is. I could see that pairing working well together. I used the Devotion 65 05 for a while, still have 2 of them I think, but it just never clicked 100% with the feel. Similar to my experience with 120, never got the feeling down with the release.

[MMB1500]

Partly due to this thread, I recently had a set of 105 S put into my irons. I had them MOI matched. I must say they are very, very nice. These are super smooth and I get a nice mid ball flight. I've picked up around 5 yards distance versus the KBS C-Taper Lite as well, probably due to the lighter weight of the shafts. They don't have the boardy feel of the KBS either.

[Wardonation]

So had another set of PXG's built and wondering how I can tell if they SSx1 my 120x's? Any help would be greatly appreciated? Thank you...

[jj9000]

So had another set of PXG's built and wondering how I can tell if they SSx1 my 120x's? Any help would be greatly appreciated? Thank you...

 

Rip the grip off of the 5 iron.

 

If you see a 39.5, the 5 iron has been soft-stepped.

 

If you see a 39, the 5 iron is straight in.

[Morry]

Here you go Hurricane. I have been following your 105 vs 120 inquiries, and am thinking similar (105 vs 125 vs 120). Good luck with the search!

 

post#2939

 

Modus / Rifle / DG / KBS

120 R / 105 R ssx1 / 125 R ssx1 / 4.0-4.5 / R200 / KBS Tour R

120 S ssx1 / 105R / 125 R / 4.5-5.0 / R300 / C-Taper Lite R

130 R / 120 S / 125 R hsx1 / 105R hsx1 / 105S ssx1 / 125 S ssx1 / 5.0-5.4 / S200 SSx1 / C-Taper Lite R HSx1, Tour V R

120 S hsx1 / 105 S / 125 S / 5.5 / S200 / S400 ssx1 & S300 ssx1 / C-Taper R, C-Taper Lite S SSX1, KBS Tour S

120 X /105 S hsx1 / 125 S hsx1 / 125 X ssx1 / 6.0-6.4 / S300 & S400 / S200 hsx1 / C-taper S+ / KBS Tour X

130 S / 105 X /125 X / 6.3-6.8 / S400 hsx1, X100, X200 ssx1 / Tour V S hsx1

120 TX / 105 X hsx1 / 125 X hsx1 / 6.5-7.0 / X100 hsx1, X200 / C-Taper X

130 X SSx1 / 7.0-7.1 / DG Tour X7 ssx1 / Tour V 120&125 X

130 X / 7.2+ / X300, DG Tour X7 / C-Taper 130 X

 

 

ssx1 = Soft Step 1 time hsx1 = Hard Step 1 time.

Looking for where the PXi family fits on this chart

desperately....thank you

PXi 6.0 specifically

debating 105 s or x vs. 130 s or x

love the PXi 6.0 and wondering where it would fit vs those 4 options

Much appreciated

[Morry]

Some more insight i was wondering about

 

what are your views on Stepping in terms of it throwing balance point off or causing 'issues'

 

i had a set ssx2 and a fitter was telling me "no surprise those were not working well"

 

thanks

[markheardjr]

Here you go Hurricane. I have been following your 105 vs 120 inquiries, and am thinking similar (105 vs 125 vs 120). Good luck with the search!

 

post#2939

 

Modus / Rifle / DG / KBS

120 R / 105 R ssx1 / 125 R ssx1 / 4.0-4.5 / R200 / KBS Tour R

120 S ssx1 / 105R / 125 R / 4.5-5.0 / R300 / C-Taper Lite R

130 R / 120 S / 125 R hsx1 / 105R hsx1 / 105S ssx1 / 125 S ssx1 / 5.0-5.4 / S200 SSx1 / C-Taper Lite R HSx1, Tour V R

120 S hsx1 / 105 S / 125 S / 5.5 / S200 / S400 ssx1 & S300 ssx1 / C-Taper R, C-Taper Lite S SSX1, KBS Tour S

120 X /105 S hsx1 / 125 S hsx1 / 125 X ssx1 / 6.0-6.4 / S300 & S400 / S200 hsx1 / C-taper S+ / KBS Tour X

130 S / 105 X /125 X / 6.3-6.8 / S400 hsx1, X100, X200 ssx1 / Tour V S hsx1

120 TX / 105 X hsx1 / 125 X hsx1 / 6.5-7.0 / X100 hsx1, X200 / C-Taper X

130 X SSx1 / 7.0-7.1 / DG Tour X7 ssx1 / Tour V 120&125 X

130 X / 7.2+ / X300, DG Tour X7 / C-Taper 130 X

 

 

ssx1 = Soft Step 1 time hsx1 = Hard Step 1 time.

Looking for where the PXi family fits on this chart

desperately....thank you

PXi 6.0 specifically

debating 105 s or x vs. 130 s or x

love the PXi 6.0 and wondering where it would fit vs those 4 options

Much appreciated

 

Pxi to me was like a harsher 105. It's too light to compare to 130 imo, it's closer to 105. Pxi had a harsh brittle boards feel. I have the 6.5 in some Razr MB irons out in my garage. Just don't care for feel or balance. 6.5 might be a hair stiffer than 105X. 6.0 is lind of in between imo. Not sure if you'd want to try 105x ssx1 for 6.0 or 105s hsx1. What weight are you going for? That might help decide 105s vs 105x.

[Morry]

Here you go Hurricane. I have been following your 105 vs 120 inquiries, and am thinking similar (105 vs 125 vs 120). Good luck with the search!

 

post#2939

 

Modus / Rifle / DG / KBS

120 R / 105 R ssx1 / 125 R ssx1 / 4.0-4.5 / R200 / KBS Tour R

120 S ssx1 / 105R / 125 R / 4.5-5.0 / R300 / C-Taper Lite R

130 R / 120 S / 125 R hsx1 / 105R hsx1 / 105S ssx1 / 125 S ssx1 / 5.0-5.4 / S200 SSx1 / C-Taper Lite R HSx1, Tour V R

120 S hsx1 / 105 S / 125 S / 5.5 / S200 / S400 ssx1 & S300 ssx1 / C-Taper R, C-Taper Lite S SSX1, KBS Tour S

120 X /105 S hsx1 / 125 S hsx1 / 125 X ssx1 / 6.0-6.4 / S300 & S400 / S200 hsx1 / C-taper S+ / KBS Tour X

130 S / 105 X /125 X / 6.3-6.8 / S400 hsx1, X100, X200 ssx1 / Tour V S hsx1

120 TX / 105 X hsx1 / 125 X hsx1 / 6.5-7.0 / X100 hsx1, X200 / C-Taper X

130 X SSx1 / 7.0-7.1 / DG Tour X7 ssx1 / Tour V 120&125 X

130 X / 7.2+ / X300, DG Tour X7 / C-Taper 130 X

 

 

ssx1 = Soft Step 1 time hsx1 = Hard Step 1 time.

Looking for where the PXi family fits on this chart

desperately....thank you

PXi 6.0 specifically

debating 105 s or x vs. 130 s or x

love the PXi 6.0 and wondering where it would fit vs those 4 options

Much appreciated

 

Pxi to me was like a harsher 105. It's too light to compare to 130 imo, it's closer to 105. Pxi had a harsh brittle boards feel. I have the 6.5 in some Razr MB irons out in my garage. Just don't care for feel or balance. 6.5 might be a hair stiffer than 105X. 6.0 is lind of in between imo. Not sure if you'd want to try 105x ssx1 for 6.0 or 105s hsx1. What weight are you going for? That might help decide 105s vs 105x.

thank you

thinking 105-115g is a good range

really it is the "feel" and proper flex I am most worried about

if I do like the pxi6.0, I was thinking the 105s might be the better choice than the 105x

I prefer not to hs or ss them if possible - I find It alters the balance points a little and I have mixed history with success stepping

any thoughts on that ?

 

the other thought is to forget the light weight and go 130r - do you think that flex would be ok?

 

98-102 ss on driver, late release, low launch/spin swing

 

thank you!

[Morry]

Another question

Hardly anyone mentions or speaks to the 130 Reg shaft - always the S or the X, never the R

100 speed on driver, mid 80's on 6 iron, late release, low launch swing

not keen on soft stepping

would the 130 reg work for me?

 

thanks

[Darth_Blader]

Anyone looking for 125x ssx1 let me know...I have an extra set for sale.

 

I finally moved from x100s to 125x. The 125 is one smooth shaft!

[markheardjr]

Another question

Hardly anyone mentions or speaks to the 130 Reg shaft - always the S or the X, never the R

100 speed on driver, mid 80's on 6 iron, late release, low launch swing

not keen on soft stepping

would the 130 reg work for me?

 

thanks

Generally people that want Regular flex aren't looking at the 130g weight range. Also the shaft is fairly stout so the Reg flex is more like an S. IMO. S and X fill a huge void for people with a heavier shaft that has a mid-high launch flight but also lower spin. It is smoother than PX but achieves similar results.

[markheardjr]

Here you go Hurricane. I have been following your 105 vs 120 inquiries, and am thinking similar (105 vs 125 vs 120). Good luck with the search!

 

post#2939

 

Modus / Rifle / DG / KBS

120 R / 105 R ssx1 / 125 R ssx1 / 4.0-4.5 / R200 / KBS Tour R

120 S ssx1 / 105R / 125 R / 4.5-5.0 / R300 / C-Taper Lite R

130 R / 120 S / 125 R hsx1 / 105R hsx1 / 105S ssx1 / 125 S ssx1 / 5.0-5.4 / S200 SSx1 / C-Taper Lite R HSx1, Tour V R

120 S hsx1 / 105 S / 125 S / 5.5 / S200 / S400 ssx1 & S300 ssx1 / C-Taper R, C-Taper Lite S SSX1, KBS Tour S

120 X /105 S hsx1 / 125 S hsx1 / 125 X ssx1 / 6.0-6.4 / S300 & S400 / S200 hsx1 / C-taper S+ / KBS Tour X

130 S / 105 X /125 X / 6.3-6.8 / S400 hsx1, X100, X200 ssx1 / Tour V S hsx1

120 TX / 105 X hsx1 / 125 X hsx1 / 6.5-7.0 / X100 hsx1, X200 / C-Taper X

130 X SSx1 / 7.0-7.1 / DG Tour X7 ssx1 / Tour V 120&125 X

130 X / 7.2+ / X300, DG Tour X7 / C-Taper 130 X

 

 

ssx1 = Soft Step 1 time hsx1 = Hard Step 1 time.

Looking for where the PXi family fits on this chart

desperately....thank you

PXi 6.0 specifically

debating 105 s or x vs. 130 s or x

love the PXi 6.0 and wondering where it would fit vs those 4 options

Much appreciated

 

Pxi to me was like a harsher 105. It's too light to compare to 130 imo, it's closer to 105. Pxi had a harsh brittle boards feel. I have the 6.5 in some Razr MB irons out in my garage. Just don't care for feel or balance. 6.5 might be a hair stiffer than 105X. 6.0 is lind of in between imo. Not sure if you'd want to try 105x ssx1 for 6.0 or 105s hsx1. What weight are you going for? That might help decide 105s vs 105x.

thank you

thinking 105-115g is a good range

really it is the "feel" and proper flex I am most worried about

if I do like the pxi6.0, I was thinking the 105s might be the better choice than the 105x

I prefer not to hs or ss them if possible - I find It alters the balance points a little and I have mixed history with success stepping

any thoughts on that ?

 

the other thought is to forget the light weight and go 130r - do you think that flex would be ok?

 

98-102 ss on driver, late release, low launch/spin swing

 

thank you!

I don't really think hard/soft stepping once is really going to scew with the balance point enough to be a big issue. I do believe hardstepping will create a lower flight and more spin and softstepping is a bit higher flight with less spin but that is how I personally see my performance changed.

 

105S straight in would be my suggestion for a 6.0PXi player. 105S might be a tad softer but if you are looking at Nippon you are probably looking for softer/smoother. PXi is just too stiff for its light weight to me. Similar to the Aldila RIP iron shaft in my experience. For that stiff of a flex, I tend to want some more weight since I am a lag player and I need that weight resistance to load the stiffer shaft. Xflex that is very lightweight I tend to just over rotate and pull them left all day. I don't get that resistance I am wanting to feel.

This was my issue with 105. I had to majorly slow down to make it work for me. I was used to the 125/130 and even heavier/stiffer proto's so the 105 I just couldn't get the timing/feeling down. I also did not care for PXi at all either. Also too light and too stiff. I can deal with heavier and softer, like an S400 or SPB Stiff, but can't go lighter/stiffer. YMMV

[dmeeksDC]

Just shows you how different players can be. I am currently an 8 handicap, quick transition and tend to go over the top if I am out of sequence, and I love the Nippon 120 S (hsx1) and find it has helped me smooth out my swing because I feel like I'm able to feel the clubhead with the longer, weightier stiff-tip design.

 

Tried the 130s in a set of Apex Pros, all I did was hit floaty shots. Did not like the 105. I am best in that 110 gram and up range, usually 115-120.

 

Came from PX 5.5 and C Taper Lite X (ssX1) and have these Nippons in MP18 heads. In four rounds I can say they are deadly accurate. Just missed an ace last weekend. Numerous shots tracking the flag. I don't consider my swing particularly smooth, it is more that my best swings have a sequence that is not "rushed," and that delivers smoother power. I feel smooth when I put a nice swing on the ball. For me there is a fine line between quick and out of sequence. I won't ever have a slow tempo, I just want it all on time.

 

Coming in, the Modus 120 is not the shaft I would have picked for myself, but it turns out it is a nice match. Getting excellent distance and bite. I find long irons easy to elevate too. I think it actually lets you get away with an early release and stays stable. I know I will put some poor swings on the ball, but I did not find that moved impact all over the place. The 130 seemed to demand a late release; easier said than done for me. Sergio can do that!

 

 

[Brooks_Cupcake]

Anyone looking for a mint set (1 round) of 765 with Modus 130x, some of the irons haven't even been hit. Just don't work well with my swing vs the 130s

 

PM me

Standard LLL

 

[Morry]

Here you go Hurricane. I have been following your 105 vs 120 inquiries, and am thinking similar (105 vs 125 vs 120). Good luck with the search!

 

post#2939

 

Modus / Rifle / DG / KBS

120 R / 105 R ssx1 / 125 R ssx1 / 4.0-4.5 / R200 / KBS Tour R

120 S ssx1 / 105R / 125 R / 4.5-5.0 / R300 / C-Taper Lite R

130 R / 120 S / 125 R hsx1 / 105R hsx1 / 105S ssx1 / 125 S ssx1 / 5.0-5.4 / S200 SSx1 / C-Taper Lite R HSx1, Tour V R

120 S hsx1 / 105 S / 125 S / 5.5 / S200 / S400 ssx1 & S300 ssx1 / C-Taper R, C-Taper Lite S SSX1, KBS Tour S

120 X /105 S hsx1 / 125 S hsx1 / 125 X ssx1 / 6.0-6.4 / S300 & S400 / S200 hsx1 / C-taper S+ / KBS Tour X

130 S / 105 X /125 X / 6.3-6.8 / S400 hsx1, X100, X200 ssx1 / Tour V S hsx1

120 TX / 105 X hsx1 / 125 X hsx1 / 6.5-7.0 / X100 hsx1, X200 / C-Taper X

130 X SSx1 / 7.0-7.1 / DG Tour X7 ssx1 / Tour V 120&125 X

130 X / 7.2+ / X300, DG Tour X7 / C-Taper 130 X

 

 

ssx1 = Soft Step 1 time hsx1 = Hard Step 1 time.

Looking for where the PXi family fits on this chart

desperately....thank you

PXi 6.0 specifically

debating 105 s or x vs. 130 s or x

love the PXi 6.0 and wondering where it would fit vs those 4 options

Much appreciated

 

Pxi to me was like a harsher 105. It's too light to compare to 130 imo, it's closer to 105. Pxi had a harsh brittle boards feel. I have the 6.5 in some Razr MB irons out in my garage. Just don't care for feel or balance. 6.5 might be a hair stiffer than 105X. 6.0 is lind of in between imo. Not sure if you'd want to try 105x ssx1 for 6.0 or 105s hsx1. What weight are you going for? That might help decide 105s vs 105x.

thank you

thinking 105-115g is a good range

really it is the "feel" and proper flex I am most worried about

if I do like the pxi6.0, I was thinking the 105s might be the better choice than the 105x

I prefer not to hs or ss them if possible - I find It alters the balance points a little and I have mixed history with success stepping

any thoughts on that ?

 

the other thought is to forget the light weight and go 130r - do you think that flex would be ok?

 

98-102 ss on driver, late release, low launch/spin swing

 

thank you!

I don't really think hard/soft stepping once is really going to scew with the balance point enough to be a big issue. I do believe hardstepping will create a lower flight and more spin and softstepping is a bit higher flight with less spin but that is how I personally see my performance changed.

 

105S straight in would be my suggestion for a 6.0PXi player. 105S might be a tad softer but if you are looking at Nippon you are probably looking for softer/smoother. PXi is just too stiff for its light weight to me. Similar to the Aldila RIP iron shaft in my experience. For that stiff of a flex, I tend to want some more weight since I am a lag player and I need that weight resistance to load the stiffer shaft. Xflex that is very lightweight I tend to just over rotate and pull them left all day. I don't get that resistance I am wanting to feel.

This was my issue with 105. I had to majorly slow down to make it work for me. I was used to the 125/130 and even heavier/stiffer proto's so the 105 I just couldn't get the timing/feeling down. I also did not care for PXi at all either. Also too light and too stiff. I can deal with heavier and softer, like an S400 or SPB Stiff, but can't go lighter/stiffer. YMMV

my Mizuno optimizer numbers were 4,2,2,5

do you think the low kick and mid release suggest the 105 rather than the 130?

thanks

[KirkNo-yes]

Ok so need some help guys. Here we go

 

I have played two different shafts in the last 10 years. For the most part I have played the Project X 6.0 Flighted Shafts. I briefly tried the DG X Seven ssx2 and they were the closest thing to replicating the PX flighted shaft. I did that to find a replacement for the PX 6.0 flighted shafts because they don't make them anymore and frankly I am tired of running around on ebay buying what I thought was PX flighted shafts only to find out they were fakes. So here I am trying to find a set of shafts for my 718's. My faces on the 716s are pretty worn out and post US Mid Am I am going to transition to those heads. I tried normal PX 6.0s and they are not leaving thru the same window. They are leaving too high which consequently has them going up and left as well. I like the 6.0's because they are super smooth and I don't have to "jump" on anything to hit it the proper distance and I can flight them down pretty easily.

 

I have hit the Modus 120's in X and they are really really nice but feel maybe a half flex stiffer to me. I "think" I had a set of Mizuno Yoro Custom irons with Modus 125's in X and if I remember right those were great. I worked them really well and they had a crazy good dispersion. I go the irons in a trade and I didn't keep them. I can't remember what shafts they were but I KNOW they were a Modus shaft in X. I REALLY like them. Theoretically would it be easier for me to transition to the 125's over the 120's? I don't want anything that is going to spin too much. I have thought about trying to soft step the 120's in X to see how those feel but don't have much knowledge in soft stepping Modus shafts. I know True Temper says trying to hard or soft step the PX shafts don't do anything because the tip length is the same and they are close to flex between the two. I generally like the profile of a PX flighted shaft ( stiff butt and stiffish mid section with tip being able to work it some. I really appreciate all the help. Wish there was a chart that had a comparable type analysis saying DG X100+ 130s+ or S400 = 125 S etc. etc. HELP!!

 

I want to find a shaft that is still made so I can be comfortable in the fact that If something happens to my clubs I can replace them with a shaft that is still available.

[jj9000]

Kirk...Demo the 130 Stiff.

 

Everything you just described would lean towards 130 Stiff.

 

Mark may tweak this...but generally speaking:

 

120 Series

 

Butt Middle Tip

---------------------------------------------->

Soft Medium Extra Stiff

 

 

130 Series

 

Butt Middle Tip

---------------------------------------------->

Stiff Extra Stiff Soft

[KirkNo-yes]

Awesome! thanks!

[Morry]

Kirk...Demo the 130 Stiff.

 

Everything you just described would lean towards 130 Stiff.

 

Mark may tweak this...but generally speaking:

 

120 Series

 

Butt Middle Tip

---------------------------------------------->

Soft Medium Extra Stiff

 

 

130 Series

 

Butt Middle Tip

---------------------------------------------->

Stiff Extra Stiff Soft

how would you do the same with the 105 series JJ9000?

would really appreciate

[markheardjr]

Kirk...Demo the 130 Stiff.

 

Everything you just described would lean towards 130 Stiff.

 

Mark may tweak this...but generally speaking:

 

120 Series

 

Butt Middle Tip

---------------------------------------------->

Soft Medium Extra Stiff

 

 

130 Series

 

Butt Middle Tip

---------------------------------------------->

Stiff Extra Stiff Soft

how would you do the same with the 105 series JJ9000?

would really appreciate

 

Stiff Soft Stiff is the general idea or 105, same for 125. But I think 105 is softer so maybe 105 is more Firm Soft Firm (If Firm is softer than Stiff.)

[Morry]

TY Mark

Much appreciated

[JerryTBall]

As I pointed out several times on here I’ve got a set of Callaway apex with the 130 stiff and I have the ping I blade with the 105 stiff I recently went out for a new golf fitting for Mizuno MP 18 MMC. I love the feel of both sets of irons with those shafts I mean I don’t think you could find a smoother shaft than the Nippon, I like the nice height ball flight but lately a lot of my partners are thinking that excess height is hurting my game so when I went to this fitter and this is the second person I’ve heard this from so this is not me saying this but I’m just telling you what I was told, so please don’t come down on me for saying this I’m married to a Japanese woman so I love Japanese products but I was told and yes I see the guys on tour hitting the same shaft I have, but what these guys were saying is the Nippon shaft is targeted or developed more for the Asian player who doesn’t muscle it as hard as we do, so I was told the shaft in both my clubs were not for me, so after testing 7 different shafts, ended up being put in a dynamic gold x100 soft stepped one time and I have to tell you with the sensorcores in the shaft it really felt good and my hands and the clubhead we’re actually meeting the ball at the same time, the Nippon although they felt really nice they kind of stay behind me a little bit I don’t know what you call it stuck or whatever but apparently my tempo and my hand speed are just not right for that shaft so we’ll see the clubs are on order. Just a sidenote I ordered the Nippon shafts myself without ever testing them, going off the reviews so I was not fitted for them but they have played well but they’re just too light for me is what I’m told.

[Morry]

As I pointed out several times on here I've got a set of Callaway apex with the 130 stiff and I have the ping I blade with the 105 stiff I recently went out for a new golf fitting for Mizuno MP 18 MMC. I love the feel of both sets of irons with those shafts I mean I don't think you could find a smoother shaft than the Nippon, I like the nice height ball flight but lately a lot of my partners are thinking that excess height is hurting my game so when I went to this fitter and this is the second person I've heard this from so this is not me saying this but I'm just telling you what I was told, so please don't come down on me for saying this I'm married to a Japanese woman so I love Japanese products but I was told and yes I see the guys on tour hitting the same shaft I have, but what these guys were saying is the Nippon shaft is targeted or developed more for the Asian player who doesn't muscle it as hard as we do, so I was told the shaft in both my clubs were not for me, so after testing 7 different shafts, ended up being put in a dynamic gold x100 soft stepped one time and I have to tell you with the sensorcores in the shaft it really felt good and my hands and the clubhead we're actually meeting the ball at the same time, the Nippon although they felt really nice they kind of stay behind me a little bit I don't know what you call it stuck or whatever but apparently my tempo and my hand speed are just not right for that shaft so we'll see the clubs are on order. Just a sidenote I ordered the Nippon shafts myself without ever testing them, going off the reviews so I was not fitted for them but they have played well but they're just too light for me is what I'm told.

what is your hand speed and clubhead speed - say on a 6 iron - or whatever club the fitter was measuring

was your speed extra fast or extra slow?

isn't that usually used for weight of shaft more than anything?

thanks

[DRRicks]

The idiot in me got away from the 120...I'm now running back!

[Oknows]

Those of you playing 130s, what are you playing in your driver? Did you look for a similar profile, or just happens to be what works for you?

[JerryTBall]

As I pointed out several times on here I've got a set of Callaway apex with the 130 stiff and I have the ping I blade with the 105 stiff I recently went out for a new golf fitting for Mizuno MP 18 MMC. I love the feel of both sets of irons with those shafts I mean I don't think you could find a smoother shaft than the Nippon, I like the nice height ball flight but lately a lot of my partners are thinking that excess height is hurting my game so when I went to this fitter and this is the second person I've heard this from so this is not me saying this but I'm just telling you what I was told, so please don't come down on me for saying this I'm married to a Japanese woman so I love Japanese products but I was told and yes I see the guys on tour hitting the same shaft I have, but what these guys were saying is the Nippon shaft is targeted or developed more for the Asian player who doesn't muscle it as hard as we do, so I was told the shaft in both my clubs were not for me, so after testing 7 different shafts, ended up being put in a dynamic gold x100 soft stepped one time and I have to tell you with the sensorcores in the shaft it really felt good and my hands and the clubhead we're actually meeting the ball at the same time, the Nippon although they felt really nice they kind of stay behind me a little bit I don't know what you call it stuck or whatever but apparently my tempo and my hand speed are just not right for that shaft so we'll see the clubs are on order. Just a sidenote I ordered the Nippon shafts myself without ever testing them, going off the reviews so I was not fitted for them but they have played well but they're just too light for me is what I'm told.

what is your hand speed and clubhead speed - say on a 6 iron - or whatever club the fitter was measuring

was your speed extra fast or extra slow?

isn't that usually used for weight of shaft more than anything?

thanks

 

It was running between 80 and 85 depending how I was taking a cut at the ball, it’s not quite a back in the 1980s Nick Price swing but I take it back and through quickly

[JerryTBall]

Those of you playing 130s, what are you playing in your driver? Did you look for a similar profile, or just happens to be what works for you?

 

I’ve got the ping G 400 and I’m playing the stock counterbalanced stiff shaft I believe it’s right around 55 or 60 g shaft but I’m going to try the UST silver 76 grams to see if it’ll help with dispersion . There was a fellow senior golfer out there with me today all regular shafts or whatever he runs and he asked if he could hit my Callaway apex with those 130s in it and I said sure and he come back and he said I want to buy those off of you if you go to trade them in because he said he’s never felt a shaft that nice and he’s a senior, he was surprised how much further he hit them compared to his he never thought he could hit a stiff shaft I told him I’ve always read if in doubt go with the stiffer or heavier shaft instead of starting out with lightweight

[Mr. Grumpy]

I am new to the Nippon 105x shaft, and just getting used to the lighter weight over the PX 6.0, but man is it smooth shaft. I don't agree on the "muscle swing" thing. I would say different swing.. They make a variety of Modus to fit many swing types..