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[Raving Shanker]

My first post: Great win for Haru out there. She first came to my notice winning the 2016 Australian Open where i thought her swing was the best in the field at that time. She putted terribly until R4 where she landed a few bombs, even though they were dodgy and a bit lucky. But that gave her the confidence to win. Today she absorbed the mind games and turned them back on Cristie. During one episode of Kerr antics I saw her smugly grinning - a look that said she had all the time in the world to win. Kerr could do what she wanted.

 

I've really only been following LPGA closely since January 2016 and I am a bit taken aback by the anti-Kerr sentiment. But seeing that play-off today - well I am beginning to understand it!

[egr2teup]

I was certainly pulling for Kerr but got very agitated by her pace of play. As Judy Rankin noted, I think it hurt Kerr in the long run.

 

With that said, Nomura's second on the 6th playoff hole was a phenomenal shot. She deserved to win after that beauty.

[deadsolid...shank]

Kerr is unbearably slow. No doubt about it.

 

But Nomura was plenty slow also.

 

When Kerr was getting ready to play her third shot on 18 in regulation almost looked like she was trying to delay it until she could see what Nomura finished with on 17. She walked up to the green and back to her ball several times.

 

I ended up giving up on watching. They were both too slow for my attention span.

[Mick Douglas]

Maybe 10,000 of us here on WRX should email the LPGA every week asking to do something re the pace of play, they'll soon get sick of reading all the emails. There officials obviously have the balls to do what they did to Lexi why are they not pushing Kerr and others to hurry up, it's not only hurting there product on TV and for the paying spectators at the course but teaching the youngsters and those starting the game that it's ok to take 3 minutes to pick a club, stuff around, wait for the wind to die down, have a drink. discuss yardage and then hit.....

[North Butte]

I was certainly pulling for Kerr but got very agitated by her pace of play. As Judy Rankin noted, I think it hurt Kerr in the long run.

 

Yes but it will hurt the unfortunates playing with her more.

 

Slow play is a race to the bottom. it's always less stressful being the slowest player in the group because the others just have to put up with it. If you get used to being the slowest player on the entire Tour then everyone else has to accommodate their game to yours.

[new2g0lf]

Another thing I don't like about Kerr is that she doesn't even wait for a player to putt out. Once she's holed out, she walks immediately to the next tee box.

 

I too don't like when the players I like play with Kerr. Ariya was paired with her for two days. Can't tell if it shook Inbee though as she's so stoic.

 

One more thing that irks me too is that the post round interview they love to bring up Kerr's wine.

Kerr is a bulldog out there, she is all business, much like Tiger was during his years of dominance. Kerr plays like she's the only one there and doesn't allow her playing partners to impact anything she does.

 

I am not a big fan of Kerr's but I do appreciate how she approaches competition versus some of the other girls on Tour who act like they are just playing a casual round with friends.

[Argonne69]

I'm curious if Cristie would have as much success as she's had if there was a 40 second shot clock. I highly doubt it. I don't care if they were playing in a hurricane, a twosome should not take 5+ hours to complete a round. That's a complete joke.

[Seamus_McDuff]

Kerr is slow, but not the slowest.

 

When she's in contention she's even slower.

 

When the conditions are bad she's even slower.

 

 

There aren't many people who wouldn't play slower in that type of wind.

[Seamus_McDuff]

Another thing I don't like about Kerr is that she doesn't even wait for a player to putt out. Once she's holed out, she walks immediately to the next tee box.

 

I have no problem with that. If she knows her group is falling behind because of her and she has the honor, why not?

[DavePelz4]

I was certainly pulling for Kerr but got very agitated by her pace of play. As Judy Rankin noted, I think it hurt Kerr in the long run.

 

Yes but it will hurt the unfortunates playing with her more.

 

Slow play is a race to the bottom. it's always less stressful being the slowest player in the group because the others just have to put up with it. If you get used to being the slowest player on the entire Tour then everyone else has to accommodate their game to yours.

 

Pace on the LPGA is generally much better than the PGA. The course set up yesterday, including the lack of some drop zones led to some funky situations that slowed things down. IBP hit the ball over the green on the peninsula hoel and went to the other side some 80 yards away.

 

Regarding Kerr and trying to game through slow play, absolutely.

[Outlier]

Kerr is slow, but not the slowest.

 

When she's in contention she's even slower.

 

When the conditions are bad she's even slower.

 

 

There aren't many people who wouldn't play slower in that type of wind.

 

 

 

I beg to differ...who is slower? and I strongly believe she is not only slow, but often times intentionally plays cheap, bush league, classless little games. Like leaving her manhole cover sized marker obviously in her competitors line and abruptly walking away...and then giving a slight stink eye when asked to move it 2x putter heads.

 

Not sure I have disliked a tour golfer male or female more.....

[legitimategolf]

Cristie Kerr is probably my least favorite person in golf but I watched the whole playoff. Not a Nomura fan either but I wanted to see if she could beat Kerr. So in that sense Kerr is one of the more compelling players to watch. She is a true heel though, one of only a few in golf--those whom people will root against. Not sure how much the game really needs that. Oh well, the game gets what it gets. Still think it's a little sad that she is basically the standard bearer for American women's golf lately.

[Argonne69]

Cristie Kerr is probably my least favorite person in golf but I watched the whole playoff. Not a Nomura fan either but I wanted to see if she could beat Kerr. So in that sense Kerr is one of the more compelling players to watch. She is a true heel though, one of only a few in golf--those whom people will root against. Not sure how much the game really needs that. Oh well, the game gets what it gets. Still think it's a little sad that she is basically the standard bearer for American women's golf lately.

 

Again, if she wasn't allowed the leeway of taking 2 to 3 minutes on a shot, would she still be the American standard bearer? I'm voting 'No'.

[elwhippy]

I like her as a player but even allowing for the wind last night's playoff was purgatory.

[pmcuk]

 

I strongly believe she is not only slow, but often times intentionally plays cheap, bush league, classless little games. Like leaving her manhole cover sized marker obviously in her competitors line and abruptly walking away...and then giving a slight stink eye when asked to move it 2x putter heads.

 

Not sure I have disliked a tour golfer male or female more.....

 

 

Good thing is that Kerr has only had 5 wins on the LPGA tour since 2010. The rest of the time she gets beat however loudly she screams at her ball.

 

Given her age she should fade out progressively and take her place in golf oblivion. I just hope the oblivion doesn't extend to becoming a commentator.....

[Mick Douglas]

 

 

Has someone had a word in her ear from the LPGA.

[Lord Helmet]

I like Kerr. Always have. Did not see the tourney yesterday.

[LuvToGolfGuy]

Never ceases to amaze me the post round interview questions of ladies who don't speak English all that well. Stop asking them questions they obviously won't understand or know how to put a decent response together in English.

 

Is it really that hard to figure out?

I agree. The interviewers need to be more considerate of girls who are just learning English. Speak slowly and concisely - it's not that difficult. Drives me crazy. What also drove me crazy was Golf Channel's blatant dismissal of the LPGA by showing meaningless Zurich coverage curing Haru and Cristie's playoff.

 

Yep. I usually don't even watch the post round interviews no matter who won (because I hate them), but I just happened to still have the Golf Channel on and saw it. I've obviously seen it before, but again, it never ceases to half amaze me in how they interview the Asian ladies. It's teeth grinding stuff to me.

 

And I agree w/ your feelings about what the golf channel did in covering both events but you knew it was going to happen. It's not really fair, but as I said as it was going on yesterday, the Golf Channel's hands were kind of tied. They basically HAD to show both and pay as much attention to both as they could. It wasn't ideal by any means.

[North Texas]

Another thing I don't like about Kerr is that she doesn't even wait for a player to putt out. Once she's holed out, she walks immediately to the next tee box.

 

I have no problem with that. If she knows her group is falling behind because of her and she has the honor, why not?

 

She goes to the next tee box and doesn't wait for other players to finish putting out for the same reason she deliberately slows plays other players.

[95124hacker]

Watched the replay on GC that they broadcasted in the middle of the night. It was 2 hours long. Not knowing the finish, I was wondering why the replay started in the middle of the 1st playoff hole. Now I know why. That 6-hole playoff was intense. Glad it came down to a birdie winning it vs a bogey losing it.

 

I was rooting for Nomura because Christie's deliberate slow play / gamesmanship was ridiculous.

 

Now if the playoff was 18, then 17... it probably wouldn't have gone past the 2nd extra hole!

[Roadking2003]

Another thing I don't like about Kerr is that she doesn't even wait for a player to putt out. Once she's holed out, she walks immediately to the next tee box.

 

I have no problem with that. If she knows her group is falling behind because of her and she has the honor, why not?

 

USGA:

 

On the Putting Green

 

On the putting green, players should not stand on another player's line of putt or, when he is making a stroke, cast a shadow over his line of putt.

 

Players should remain on or close to the putting green until all other players in the group have holed out.

[youraway2]

I like Kerr. Always have. Did not see the tourney yesterday.

So why comment?

[Lord Helmet]

I like Kerr. Always have. Did not see the tourney yesterday.

So why comment?

 

I'm not allowed to say I'm a fan of hers ?

[North Butte]

I like Kerr. Always have. Did not see the tourney yesterday.

So why comment?

 

I'm not allowed to say I'm a fan of hers ?

 

I'll allow it.

[North Texas]

Another thing I don't like about Kerr is that she doesn't even wait for a player to putt out. Once she's holed out, she walks immediately to the next tee box.

 

I have no problem with that. If she knows her group is falling behind because of her and she has the honor, why not?

 

USGA:

 

On the Putting Green

 

 

On the putting green, players should not stand on another player's line of putt or, when he is making a stroke, cast a shadow over his line of putt.

 

Players should remain on or close to the putting green until all other players in the group have holed out.

 

Bottom line, it simply poor etiquette to go to the next tee box while other players are still putting.

[DavePelz4]

Another thing I don't like about Kerr is that she doesn't even wait for a player to putt out. Once she's holed out, she walks immediately to the next tee box.

 

I have no problem with that. If she knows her group is falling behind because of her and she has the honor, why not?

 

USGA:

 

On the Putting Green

 

 

On the putting green, players should not stand on another player's line of putt or, when he is making a stroke, cast a shadow over his line of putt.

 

Players should remain on or close to the putting green until all other players in the group have holed out.

 

Bottom line, it simply poor etiquette to go to the next tee box while other players are still putting.

 

How about if you need to pee?

[Hawkeye77]

Maybe 10,000 of us here on WRX should email the LPGA every week asking to do something re the pace of play, they'll soon get sick of reading all the emails. There officials obviously have the balls to do what they did to Lexi why are they not pushing Kerr and others to hurry up, it's not only hurting there product on TV and for the paying spectators at the course but teaching the youngsters and those starting the game that it's ok to take 3 minutes to pick a club, stuff around, wait for the wind to die down, have a drink. discuss yardage and then hit.....

 

Good point, if Lexi had been a lot quicker with her mismark she may have gotten away with it! Couldn't resist that.

 

LPGA does a way better job than most with pace of play (at least it seems so to me). Wind was an issue yesterday and nobody was getting on a clock in a two person playoff (my opinion).

 

 

[Shilgy]

Another thing I don't like about Kerr is that she doesn't even wait for a player to putt out. Once she's holed out, she walks immediately to the next tee box.

 

I have no problem with that. If she knows her group is falling behind because of her and she has the honor, why not?

 

USGA:

 

On the Putting Green

 

 

On the putting green, players should not stand on another player's line of putt or, when he is making a stroke, cast a shadow over his line of putt.

 

Players should remain on or close to the putting green until all other players in the group have holed out.

 

Bottom line, it simply poor etiquette to go to the next tee box while other players are still putting.

 

How about if you need to pee?

Then it would be even more rude to go to the next tee box. Especially if used as a pee box.

[Hawkeye77]

Another thing I don't like about Kerr is that she doesn't even wait for a player to putt out. Once she's holed out, she walks immediately to the next tee box.

 

I too don't like when the players I like play with Kerr. Ariya was paired with her for two days. Can't tell if it shook Inbee though as she's so stoic.

 

One more thing that irks me too is that the post round interview they love to bring up Kerr's wine.

 

And another thing . . . ;-)

[PZero]

I like Kerr. Always have. Did not see the tourney yesterday.

So why comment?

 

I'm not allowed to say I'm a fan of hers ?

 

It's a 2 stroke penalty.