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I'm seeing quite a few M4s at our course but even more Rogues. Callaway gets a bump at our course due to the AP being a staffer for them.

Ping G400 max
Ping G410 5 wood
Ping G410 7 & 9 woods 

Titleist T350 irons
54* & 58* Sub70 JB Wedges
PXG Operator H w/ BGT stability tour shaft or  SIK FLO C with LAGP shaft

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Seems 'Twist Face' just doesn't cut it...TM's needs a 'new' driver gimmick... :taunt:

 

 

[b]What's in Bobcat's Bag? (Showing more than 14 clubs due to options)[/b]

Driver: TM 2015 9.5* SLDR-C - 45.5" Miyazaki Kusala Black 61s (tipped 1/2")
Fairway: TM Tour-iussue V-Steel 15* 3W - 43.25" Fujikura 757 Speeder Stiff
Hybrid Fairway: TM Rescue Fairway 15* '3-Strong'- 42.75" Fujikura VP-90 Stiff
Hybrids: TM Rescue-Mid TP's 19*(3H) & 22*(4H) - Fujikura Vista Pro 90 Stiff
Driving Irons: TM TP UDI's 16* (#1) & 20* (#3) - KBS C-Taper Lite 110 Stiff Shafts
Irons: TM 2015 SLDR Irons (5-8i only) - KBS C-Taper Lite 110 Stiff Flex Steel
Hybrid Wedges: Cleveland 2011 Niblicks - 42*PW /49*DW / 56*SW - Stock Steel
Wedge: 2011 Cleveland CG-16 Black Pearl 58*/8* (SW/LW) - Stock Steel Shaft
Putter: Bettinardi BBX-81 Blade - 35" Bettinardi Stock Steel Putter Shaft
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Loving my M3

USGA Index: ~0

[b]WITB[/b]:
Ping G410 LST 9 degree - Tour AD IZ 6x
Ping G410 LST - Fujikura Pro TourSpec 73 
Kasco K2K 33 - Fujikura Pro TourSpec 73 
Callaway RazrX Tour 4h - Tour 95 shaft
Ping i200 5-UW (2 flat) - Nippon Modus 105X
Taylormade HiToe 54 (bent to 55 & 2 flat)
Taylormade HiToe 64 (Bent to 62 & 2 flat)
Palmer AP30R putter (circa 1960s)
Taylormade TP5X Ball

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I haven't seen any M3s or M4s, but I can't think of anyone I play with that has to have the most up to date model. The biggest local golf retailer always has really good prices on the previous generation models (or the one before that) so we're all conditioned to play a generation or two old.

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Something about the M4 that just allows me to game it over the Rogue or the ST Mizzy. They all go about the same distance for me and with all the shaft offerings allow to fine tune them all with in hundreds of rpms in terms of spin. I just think the M4 allows me to rip and release with any fear of the lefts...of course its probably more marketing than physical...in the end my body and mind believe in it so I m riding it

 

PXG GEN6 0311 10.5*DRIVER/FUJI RED VELOCORE 6S/GP TW WHT

PXG GEN5 0311XF 17*FAIRWAY/FUJI MOTORE X F3 7S/GP TW WHT

PXG GEN3 0311XP 3 IRON/TT ELEVATE TOUR S/WINN DT WRAP

PXG GEN3 0311P 4-PW/TT ELEVATE TOUR S/WINN DT WRAP

PXG GEN4 0311P GW/TT ELEVATE TOUR S/WINN DT WRAP

PXG SD II WEDGES/56/13&62/10/TT ELEVATE TOUR S/GP TW BLK

MACHINE M2A 1018RAW CS PUTTER/ACCRA I-STEEL/SS FLAT 1.0

 

 

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Personally, I still get my best numbers with my '16 M1. That's why I didn't change. This cycle did not have anything for me.

 

I see plenty of both M3 and M4. We get a lot of tourists playing rounds this time of year, so it is not just a local thing. I see a lot of Callaway as well. The golf shop in Gulf Shores could be the largest Callaway dealer on the Gulf.

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Haven't seen a single M3/M4 driver/fw/hybrid in the wild yet. I remember seeing M2's all over the place when they were new.

WITB:
Driver: Ping G400 Max 9* Matrix 8M3
3 Wood: TM 16 M2 13* Diamana Thump 75
4-7 Wood: Cobra F6 Baffler 19* PX Evenflow
4 Iron: TM RSI TP UDI Aldila Rip'd VS Proto
5-PW: Bridgestone J15DF KBS C-Taper
50,56,60: Callaway MD3, Vokey TVD, Mizuno T7
Putter: Method 003, Bettinardi Queen B7

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Something about the M4 that just allows me to game it over the Rogue or the ST Mizzy. They all go about the same distance for me and with all the shaft offerings allow to fine tune them all with in hundreds of rpms in terms of spin. I just think the M4 allows me to rip and release with any fear of the lefts...of course its probably more marketing than physical...in the end my body and mind believe in it so I m riding it

 

I find there is usually a physical or aesthetic component that leads to that. Head shape, face angle, colors/graphics etc, there is always something subtle in there that can instill confidence in some people and mess with others.

Titleist TSi3 9* Tensei AV White 65TX 2.0 // Taylormade SIM 10.5* Ventus TR Blue 6TX
Taylormade Stealth+ 16* Ventus Black 8x // Taylormade SIM Ti V2 16.5* Ventus TR Blue 7X
Callaway Apex UW 19* Ventus Black 8x // Srixon ZX Utility MKII 19* Nippon GOST Prototype Hybrid 10
Callaway X-Forged Single♦️  22* Nippon GOST Hybrid Tour X 
Bridgestone 
J15 CB 4i-7i 23*- 34* Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
Bridgestone J40 CB 8i-PW 38*- 46* Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
Vokey SM9 50* Raw F-Grind Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0

Taylormade Milled Grind Raw 54* Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
Vokey SM6 58* Oil Can Low Bounce K-Grind Brunswick Precision Rifle FCM 7.0
Scotty Cameron Newport Tour Red Dot // Taylormade Spider X Navy Slant

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Very rarely on the public tracks I play does anyone have a driver bought within the past 3 yrs. heck maybe even 5yrs.

 

Every now and then I see a newer Ping but by far I still see a ton of R11’s and RBZ drivers.

Ping G430 Max 10.5 Tensei Orange AV Raw 55 Reg

Ping G430 SFT 5w 19* Alta Black Reg

Ping G430 SFT 7w 23* Alta Black Reg

Tour Edge Xrail 5h 26* Graphite Design G-Series Reg

Ping G425 6-UW Alta Slate Reg

Ping Glide 4.0 56* WS Nippon Z-115

Cleveland CBX Full Face 2 60* DG Spinner

Cleveland Smart Sole C 4.0 

Ping 2023 Anser D

Handicap: 8.2

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Too expensive and not better than prior models is an equation for low sales. They'll sell quite nicely in the used bins later this year and next.

Ping G425 Max 9* Venus Red TR 5 Stiff

Ping G425 Max 7 wood Rogue 130MSI 80

Ping G425 Max 9 wood Ventus Blus 7S

Ping G710 4-PW KBS Tour

Ping S159 50 54 58

Ping Anser 2

 

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Closed face high toe hitter here. When on, my Fusion and Epic hit high/longer towering draws (for me). When off, my Fusion/epic hooked and killed my game. The 2018 M4 ended all that. I have a hard time turning this thing over but that straight ball to fade keeps the ball in play. The occasional heel hit turns out just fine but that opened face toe hit can be bad. Thankfully, I don’t do that very often.

 

For me, Twist Face works as advertised.

Callaway Epic MAX 10.5*
Callaway Mavrik MAX 15*
Taylor Made M4 19* & 22* hybrids
PING G410 5-U w/DG 105s 
Cleveland RTX 54* & 58*
Odyssey Stroke Lab Big Seven Toe Up vs MEZZ1 vs Seemore
Precision Pro Nx7 Pro, Garmin S60 (watch)


https://forums.golfwrx.com/discussion/1580770/recaps-the-taylormade-twistfaceexperience-7-golfwrx-members-visit-the-kingdom-for-an-exclusive-m3/p1

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Imo anyone who hasn't tried an m3/m4 hasn't read thought the fitting experience thread on here about them. Die to this thread I tried them out and purches an m3 woth tensei pro white.

 

Twist face may not be for everyone but since putting the m3 in my bag every errant shot has ended up closer to the fairway than expected.

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