How good will Matthew Wolff be?

[jdl]

[GolfChannel]

First of many, one of the best tournament Sundays I have seen in a few weeks. I wanted him to win, but the prospect of a 5-8 person playoff tugged at the chaos my dark heart loves. First of many for him and Morikawa.

[Mcgeeno]

I have a sneaking suspicion that Hovland/Wolff/Morikawa are gonna be absolute monsters...Dare I say the next big three.

 

They are all so solid tee to green. Tournament tested, talented and the stage doesnt seem to big.

 

I like where the future is headed on the PGA tour.

[lopey986]

> @Mcgeeno said:

> I have a sneaking suspicion that Hovland/Wolff/Morikawa are gonna be absolute monsters...Dare I say the next big three.

>

> They are all so solid tee to green. Tournament tested, talented and the stage doesnt seem to big.

>

> I like where the future is headed on the PGA tour.

 

i don't think we're ever going to get a "big three" or a single golfer who goes on a tear like Tiger because the talent pool just keeps getting deeper and deeper. And i'm looking forward to watching it continue to grow.

[golfandfishing]

I think the chances of a “Big 3” are way better than a single dominant player. I can see a few players pull away and win 5 majors and 15 tour events over the next 20 years. I don’t see a single player like Woods/Nicklaus happening again though. That type of personality is simply forbidden in our world now.

[agood3putt]

If Wolff can get his chipping down. Which is his downfall according to him, with the way he putts and his length off the tee....man he is going to be so fun to watch down the stretch. Having the mental aptitude that he has from winning in college is going to be huge for him in the pro's

[2putttom]

> @chiva said:

> > @MountainGoat said:

> > > @MountainGoat said:

> > > He’ll be a good draw on the web.com tour.

> >

> > Apparently I’m a moron.

>

> I’m glad you were wrong. This kid is exciting to watch. ?

>

>

 

he was a blizzard @ NCAA championships.

[Golfjack]

> @OutBackHack said:

> > @kekoa said:

> > > @Golfjack said:

> > > > @bladehunter said:

> > > > > @pinhigh27 said:

> > > > > > @bladehunter said:

> > > > > > > @pinhigh27 said:

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> > > > > > > > > @"Darth Putter" said:

> > > > > > > > > > @bladehunter said:

> > > > > > > > > > > @pinhigh27 said:

> > > > > > > > > > > > @golfandfishing said:

> > > > > > > > > > > > I think if Wolff didn’t have his wonky move he wouldn’t be nearly as “popular”, it’s his version of wearing all orange basically. It makes him popular, but that doesn’t make him great. His college career was fine, but he didn’t beat any veteran players at amateur events like the US Am, Sunnehana, Western Am, etc. I’ll say he’s a Ryan Moore type career with 6-8ish wins by the time he retires lavishly.

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> > > > > > > > > > > Fine? He won the most events in one year in Oklahoma state history. That's hilarious. He had one of the best years of college golf in history.

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> > > > > > > > > > How many US am s , junior ams , and or individual ncaa titles has he got?

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> > > > > > > > > > 1 individual title. It’s odd for a world beater to not at least have a junior am etc

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> > > > > > > > > I did the research for another thread last year.

> > > > > > > > > Since Tiger Woods (who won both), the records in the pros for the US Amateur Champions like Hovland and the NCAA Champions like Wolff are nearly identical.

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> > > > > > > > I don’t doubt that , especially since a lot of ncaa champs probably overlap and also win USga AM events etc.

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> > > > > > > > I just don’t think that the argument that he’s the best of this year’s crop holds water , because of an ncaa championship. Time will tell for sure.

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> > > > > > > Who has made that argument?

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> > > > > > Well. You said he wasn’t last. So I guess i assumed you meant first. So he’s mid pack ?

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> > > > > so not last means first? okie doke.

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> > > > > it's funny you say what has wolff won. what have the other two besides hovland won?

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> > > > I think it’s easy to assume that if you thought that the notion that he was last was so crazy to say , that you thought him the top pick. But assumptions often are incorrect for sure. So if you think he’s #2 behind Hovland. Then I agree completely.

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> > > > But yes. According to Reece Bobby “ if you’re not first , you’re last “.

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> > > Don't count out Morikawa though, he's already won more than a million dollars on tour through 3 tournaments.

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> > Not to get sidetracked, but are you sure about this? I see that he has only made about $215,000 in earnings thus far.

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> He's probably sure about it, but he's also wrong.

 

LOL yeah I don't know what happened must have misread something. Though he has now a T2 at 3M so he's up to 778k now. Still short of what I said lol. :#

[Golfjack]

> @powerpushfade said:

> > @mjen43 said:

> > > @powerpushfade said:

> > > Good to see Gankas I’d stealing the a-swing from Leadbetter.

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> > A swing came out in 2015. You think Wolff has only been playing golf for 4 years?

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> My point was everybody was ripping Leadbetter about it. Now everyone will be looking into it.

>

 

Wolff's swing is not the A swing. Try comparing what Lydia Ko was doing (and that ruined her form) and what Wolff does. A huge difference in how the left wrist looks. A swing has it cupped big time, and Wolff's is more flat. Downswing A swing left wrist is still cupped (while also shallowing) while Gankas has Wolff shallow it a lot more and left wrist is in flexion. Just my opinion, maybe somebody who knows swings better can analyze it more. Also GG footwork is also very different from what Leadbetter teaches.

[ALIF]

> @Golfjack said:

> > @powerpushfade said:

> > > @mjen43 said:

> > > > @powerpushfade said:

> > > > Good to see Gankas I’d stealing the a-swing from Leadbetter.

> > >

> > > A swing came out in 2015. You think Wolff has only been playing golf for 4 years?

> > >

> > My point was everybody was ripping Leadbetter about it. Now everyone will be looking into it.

> >

>

> Wolff's swing is not the A swing. Try comparing what Lydia Ko was doing (and that ruined her form) and what Wolff does. A huge difference in how the left wrist looks. A swing has it cupped big time, and Wolff's is more flat. Downswing A swing left wrist is still cupped (while also shallowing) while Gankas has Wolff shallow it a lot more and left wrist is in flexion. Just my opinion, maybe somebody who knows swings better can analyze it more. Also GG footwork is also very different from what Leadbetter teaches.

 

You are correct!

 

 

[GolfChannel]

Blessing in disguise he didn’t auto qualify for the Open, or literally makes zero sense just like FedEx Cup points and other PGA Tour nonsense like rookie of the year...

[scores]

I said I think Matt and George would be winners on tour but I did not think it would happen this fast !!!wow some excitement coming with all these great young players!

[golfheaven69]

Players look invisible and then not so much. Think Spieth. Time will tell.

[scores]

Golfheaven69 yes , I somewhat agree but I think This kid wolf looks really hungry like a wolf!!

[ctsgolf]

> @MountainGoat said:

> He’ll be a good draw on the web.com tour.

 

This didn't really age well.

[MountainGoat]

> @ctsgolf said:

> > @MountainGoat said:

> > He’ll be a good draw on the web.com tour.

>

> This didn't really age well.

Read above. I’ve already admitted to it. (#208)

 

 

[DON SVO]

> @MountainGoat said:

> > @ctsgolf said:

> > > @MountainGoat said:

> > > He’ll be a good draw on the web.com tour.

> >

> > This didn't really age well.

> Read above. I’ve already admitted to it. (#208)

>

>

 

Eh, he just said in another thread that he's not a big reader, don't hold it against him.

[BeerPerHole]

This kid is something else. I dig the wild swing. After the unique flailing it transitions into pure gold at the top. He IS very good already. How will he hold up over time? Who knows? Looks pretty promising to me...

[jjr]

I'll take Nate Lashley over this kid in a heartbeat!

[GolfChannel]

> @jjr said:

> I'll take Nate Lashley over this kid in a heartbeat!

 

Who? and I mean that half jokingly...

[lopey986]

> @jjr said:

> I'll take Nate Lashley over this kid in a heartbeat!

 

Nate is 36 years old lmao.

[Man_O_War]

if he changes his swing..... >:)

[Golfjack]

Well he followed his win with a made cut. I'm still impressed. Easy for a 20 year old to slack off a little after a win. Even more impressive is Colin Morikawa who secured his card for next season. These kids don't have it easy, with only a partial season to gain points.

[pinhigh27]

> @Golfjack said:

> Well he followed his win with a made cut. I'm still impressed. Easy for a 20 year old to slack off a little after a win. Even more impressive is Colin Morikawa who secured his card for next season. These kids don't have it easy, with only a partial season to gain points.

 

Even more impressive?

[GolfChannel]

Looking like Hovland will have to go to KFC finals to get his card. Insane he gets zero points for his performances at Augusta, Bayhill, and the US Open.

[GoGoErky]

> @GolfChannel said:

> Looking like Hovland will have to go to KFC finals to get his card. Insane he gets zero points for his performances at Augusta, Bayhill, and the US Open.

 

Can’t earn points if you aren’t a pro. Iirc he was a junior this year so he still had a chance of going back to school. How do you award points to an am that may not turn pro

[John K.]

Can't believe Wolff didn't qualify for The Open....

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/british-open-2019-why-matthew-wolff-is-not-in-the-field-at-royal-portrush-and-no-it-doesnt-seem-fair

[kekoa]

> @"John K." said:

> Can't believe Wolff didn't qualify for The Open....

> https://www.golfdigest.com/story/british-open-2019-why-matthew-wolff-is-not-in-the-field-at-royal-portrush-and-no-it-doesnt-seem-fair

 

BS if you ask me. I guess no way to get special exemptions into majors right? I think he would do well there.

[Darth Putter]

> @"John K." said:

> Can't believe Wolff didn't qualify for The Open....

> https://www.golfdigest.com/story/british-open-2019-why-matthew-wolff-is-not-in-the-field-at-royal-portrush-and-no-it-doesnt-seem-fair

 

He picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue, I mean win a golf tournament.

 

The 3M was big enough of an event that he will be in Memphis for the WGC next week.

[snizzle]

> @GoGoErky said:

> > @GolfChannel said:

> > Looking like Hovland will have to go to KFC finals to get his card. Insane he gets zero points for his performances at Augusta, Bayhill, and the US Open.

>

> Can’t earn points if you aren’t a pro. Iirc he was a junior this year so he still had a chance of going back to school. How do you award points to an am that may not turn pro

 

I think they could keep track of *potential* points similar to how they track non member points? It would require a little more bookkeeping by the tour though.

Hovland is playing so well I don't think it should be a major hurdle to get his card thru the KF Finals if he has to go that route. Wouldn't be surprised if he gets a top 3 at the Wyndham Championship to earn his card that way too..