SIM driver guys - talk about it

[bogeypro]

Another fantastic day with the sim. I swapped my hzrdus black smoke 70g 6.5 for an atmos blue ts 6x. Fantastic combo!!

I think the smoke is a hair longer, i suspect lower spin. The atmos feels better later in the round. Smoother overall feel.

[HappyGilmore22]

Bought a SIM when first released with a Ventus Black and it was just so short on distance. Shaft was totally wrong for me and I wish I could try it with my current Diamana DF. Still didn't like the blue color and felt the face was too shallow for my liking though. Will definitely do some testing between the new Titleist driver this fall and see what TM comes out with next. M5 was a bust for me as I still prefer the older M1 as the best TM driver for me.

[Guest]

Unbelievably good. SIM Max won out by just a hair, but both were noticeably better across the board from anything else. TS2 was a distant second and the only other driver that felt remotely close.

[Oqvist]

I have a feeling I would like the ts2 more with that titanium feel :)

Anyway sim max do work quite well. The problem I have now is the ability to shot shape. The old constant fades/slices was mentally taxing but probably safer. Now I can produce draws and going for it more but thats risky and my aiming need to be redone. Or I go back to the old. Dont grip down and the ability to go for it or produce draws is gone.

Anyway hit my first 250 metre drive today so its working :)

 

[QuigleyDU]

I am still a big fan of this driver, and feel I have it really dialed.

[edryer3]

Played today and noticed a rattle in my Sim Max driver head. No epoxy issues with the shaft and the driver head is not hot melted or anything. The weight screw was not loose by much just adjusted a little after my round since I didn’t have that wrench with me. Weird thing is it would rattle a bit for a few holes and than it would stop and I could not replicate it. Anyone else have that issue? I know it’s under warranty but I can’t duplicate It so TM won’t honor unless they can rattle it themselves. Hopefully it was just the back weight needing a little tightening but did not think it would be that loud when I shook the club head. Everyone in the group heard it rattle!

[Valtiel]

This is a classic problem. While you may not have added any hotmelt, there is normally something (rattle stop, rat glue etc) put in there to catch errant pieces of either epoxy residue from crowns and something that sneaks in through a screw hole. The rattle is stopping because it is being temporarily caught by the glue in the head, but the piece might be big enough that it is occasionally breaking loose again. If it comes loose again, you'll want to remove the back weight and see if you can shake it out the screw hole there. You can also gently heat up the bottom of the head to soften the glue in hopes that the piece of debris gets absorbed into the glue further. This might be a little riskier with multi material head construction though, so i'd go with the former.

[edryer3]

Ok thanks so it’s glue most likely and not a broken metal piece in the driver head? Performance wise it wasn’t a problem just annoying. But if it’s a metal piece would that affect performance? I’ll try taking the weight off in the back and see if the piece falls out hopefully. If I can’t get it out and it more consistently rattling hopefully TM will replace it.

[Valtiel]

It is most likely a small piece of excess epoxy from the seam between the carbon crown and the metal head. Extremely unlikely that it is a piece of metal, unless it is something like a little burr left over from machining. Nothing detrimental either way, just annoying as you've found.

[Oknows]

Same issue. Sounded more like the rattle from the screw when the shaft is out, so I tightened the back weight and that seems to have done the trick.

[bogeypro]

I had that sound... I tightened that back weight and it stopped.

[edryer3]

Awesome thanks for replies! I’m glad that was the fix!!

[Guest]

Well I ended up buying a SIM, now just to wait for it to get here.

I went with it over the Mavrik because I fade on my misses and I think I'll have better adjustability to counter that with the SIM than the Mavrik. Hopefully I'm right!

[third-times-a-charm]

If your miss is a fade the SIM is the worst driver this year. It's a fade/cut machine and guys have had to loft up and do other fixes to counter it. Theres a large thread in the tech forum.

[Tree Levino]

Hate to say it but the Sim is drastically more fade bias than the Mavrik. I would suggest going upright from the start as the Sim is like 4 degrees flatter than Mav out of the box. As someone who’s miss is a push fade, the Sim is only remotely usable with weight in heel and on upright setting. Even at that I don’t get along with it.

[Brooks_Cupcake]

While I know there is a thread that details as such, I think the combo of how shafts play in the head is more prevalent than the head being fade biased itself.

I actually play my 10.5 one click lower with the sliding weight toward the fade side, and with my Atmos Black 7x untipped at 44.5” I’ve hit maybe 10 fades unintentionally all year. The rest have been a draw

[bogeypro]

Link to this huge thread? I couldn't find it.

I've actually owned both the 9 and 10.5 Sim heads and haven't found them to be any more fade bias than ts3 or mavrik sub zero. Yes, slight fade bias, but not huuuge like some say. That's the way most players drivers are now days. There's always the d type...

[jah7838]

I've had my SIM 10.5* for a couple of weeks now. I ordered it with the stock Diamana Stiff shaft and an extra 10g weight. I was coming from the M3 9.5* (Hot melted to 205g) that I've used with a few different shafts. The shaft I've been using for most of the summer has been the Rogue Silver 60s (original one) at 45". It was a pretty good combination for me, but a bit spinny. I tried the SIM with the Rogue Silver for a few rounds and my good shots were definitely longer than the M3, but it wasn't as consistent. I tried it at the standard loft setting and 1 click lower, with one weight closer to the heel and the other slightly towards the toe from center, and was more consistent at 10.5*.

I decided to try the stock Diamana after cutting it down to play at 45" on the range one click lower this weekend, and the SIM was a completely different driver for me. Ball just wanted to stay straight to a slight cut for me. Launch was higher and lower spinning than my SIM as well. Yesterday was my first round with the Diamana on a familiar course, and I was doing much better off the tee than I normally do on that course in terms of accuracy. I don't know the last time I played a stock shaft that came with a driver or wood, but it looks like this Diamana will be in the SIM for a while.

[Guest]

Thanks for the advice everyone, I'll see what I can do to adjust if I start seeing that. The Sub Zero and SIM played similarly when I was fitted, including fading as a lefty, but I think I can adjust the SIM more to compensate, where the Mavrik doesn't have as much to help IMO.

[third-times-a-charm]

https://forums.golfwrx.com/discussion/1815605/sim-drivers-can-only-hit-cuts-and-cant-close-the-face#latest

[bogeypro]

Thank you!

[getitdaily]

In that thread there are some responses that talk about how tour guys are setting up their drivers....heavy weight in back, loft down, upright lie, lighter weight upfront.

I ordered a 21g weight for the back. I have two 4g weights for the front (only using 1 at the moment). I'm going to do some testing soon to see what happens.

Current setup - standard back weight, 10g in heel, 4g in center, upright lie, std loft

"Tour type" setup - 21g back weight, 4g in heel, 4g somewhere else. Not sure where loft will be. Will likely stay in upright lie.

Results in a couple of weeks.

[Mcgeeno]

If I never see a ball go right (I'm a lefty) again I'm a happy camper.

 

I have the SIM 10.5 cranked completely open and in the fade setting. I know many make it come across like a negative but its the complete opposite for me.

 

This club has essentially eliminated one side of the course as far as a miss goes.

 

 

[SwooshLT]

THIS! I have Atmos Red tour spec 6R and hit comfortable draws or intentional cuts but mostly just straight.....only have a month under my belt ; 10.5* ......will try 9* for giggles

[Malc]

Interesting to see what you say about the tour guys, i've not heard that one. Strangely though, i bought an 8 degree head on it's own and put a shaft in that was 3/8ths of an inch shorter. I put it up against my gamer, an 8.5 SZ triple diamond, which i found to be a brilliant driver, and the Sim had it by 6yds average. Thinking it felt a bit light i brought the swingweight up a bit by adding another 3g's upfront. Now it just doesnt feel the same club and i'm sure the distance has gone back. Now wondering if i should have gone with more backweight.

[getitdaily]

I'm interested to see what happens. I don't really have a reason to tinker. My current setup is phenomenal.

But the idea of higher moi, higher dynamic loft, and dame spin window intrigues me.

[jmccaff]

Slice / fade machine for me. I need to find the right shaft combo or I'm getting rid of it. Love the look and feel of it though.

[Malc]

Just been dabbling in the garage. Swapped front weight back to normal, set it a bit on the fade side, slapped just over an inch of lead tape stuck over the back weight. Set the loft down another click so it's now 8 minus 2 clicks, std lie angle. Hope my dodgy elbow feels a bit better to blast a few at lunch time tomorrow.

[getitdaily]

You fight a hard draw?

[Oqvist]

Tried gripping down? That allows me to draw or even hook it if I am not smooth. I have to absolutely kill myself to get around a 45,75" shaft. Fun but it dont help in finding the center nor being smooth enough.