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He said the same thing in several interviews at the start of the year and he believes the biggest problem is the 40 second rule is never enforced apart from that time at Augusta.

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Bruce is dead right here. But. What does irk me is that if several other guys said the same it would be deemed “ whining because he didn’t play well today “.

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> @Roadking2003 said:

> > @OldTomMorris said:

> > He said the same thing in several interviews at the start of the year and he believes the biggest problem is the 40 second rule is never enforced apart from that time at Augusta.

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> The 40-second rule is only enforced when a group is behind. How far behind was Koepka's group?

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No idea if they were ever on the clock but he was talking in general terms about the slow play issue. He also talked about it after DeChambeau came under fire for his slow play on the ET in the Middle East at the start of this season.

 

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As a fast player myself I can relate to getting annoyed and thrown off one's game if paired or stuck behind someone that's slow. The lack of self awareness and/or lack of caring some (slow) people exhibit is astounding sometimes.

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Such a subjective subject. Lol.

 

There are just as many speedy players who are too fast as players that are too slow. I have one in my regular group. He will implode at once if we wait for even one shot. I mean throw an even par round away and quit . And he’s 59 years old. And a good player. I played 9 with him once alone. And I’ve never in my life had a guy run to his ball and whack it like he did. He’d start the cart before I got sat down etc. sucked all the fun out of it. What’s the use in rushing to just wait ? And I’m a guy who will pull the trigger inside 30 seconds of my turn coming up 99.99999% of every shot. Maybe even to my detriment on the greens.

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I think Koepka is right on with his comment. Its about being ready to play when its your turn. And, that applies at every level of the game. Also, I don't think Koepka's comment has anything to do with what he shot today. JB is so slow he is painful to watch on TV. I can only imagine having to play with the guy.

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Watching Golf is nothing more than entertainment. Watching Holmes is not entertaining, it’s actually annoying. They should penalize him till he changes his ways or is off the tour. His Behavior is actually selfish.

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I don't know JB but can't stand watching him play. But as long as the PGA doesn't enforce time rules it's their fault..

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Holmes lost me forever after Riviera. I will likely never root for him again. He is brutally slow and it is unfair for others to have to play with, or behind, him. If fast players can’t force others to play ridiculously fast to throw them off their game, then slow players should not be allowed to have an advantage by playing slower than a snail.

 

And, if I remember correctly, the issue of him Holmes not starting any part of his routine until it is his turn came up after his win at Riviera and he stated that, yes, that is true and it is intentional. He also said his mental coach told him to do it that way.

 

His mental coach should be reprimanded by the medical board . . . if he’s even certified.

 

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That makes sense because when I watched him he didn't seem slow to me. But I see now where the problem is. I read once where Nicklaus had a similar problem when he first came on tour. He said he was trying to be respectful and not disturb his partners. That's why he wouldn't start anything until it was his turn. So one day Jack got called on that by some head of the tour and he adjusted. Maybe that's all JB needs?

 

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> @Lagavulin62 said:

> That makes sense because when I watched him he didn't seem slow to me. But I see now where the problem is. I read once where Nicklaus had a similar problem when he first came on tour. He said he was trying to be respectful and not disturb his partners. That's why he wouldn't start anything until it was his turn. So one day Jack got called on that by some head of the tour and he adjusted. Maybe that's all JB needs?

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Holmes has been on tour for 15 years. No way he doesn’t know proper procedure and etiquette. He just thinks it helps him play better so he doesn’t care how/if it effects other players.

 

However, I’m not opposed to the Head of the PGA Tour ringing him up and telling him one-on-one to pick up the pace...

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> > @bladehunter said:

> > Bruce is dead right here. But. What does irk me is that if several other guys said the same it would be deemed “ whining because he didn’t play well today “.

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> John's slow play isn't a real secret and he is hated around here specifically because of that.

 

Oh I know that. And even agree. But. I know that given the circumstances , If say Rahm or Sergio said “ I could have won today if JB wasn’t holding up the world “ this place would have imploded on him. “ whiner “ this and that . Brooks said pretty much the same just now in so many words and is being heralded for it. It’s cool. I just notice the double standard.

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If Holmes is such a problem, why dont his fellow playing partners talk to him before the round and ask if they can play ready golf while he decides what he wants to do when he hits shots from the fairway? There's nothing that prohibits doing that, and it's not match play. Just ask on the first tee - "Hey JB, as long as my shot doesnt infringe on yours, do you mind if I go first on all shots from the fairway, even if you are away?" Kills two birds with one stone....allows JB to play at his pace, and his competitor to play at theirs. Perhaps a more ready-golf type of concept would benefit all players and help shave a few minutes off rounds, of slow play is truly thought of as a problem on tour (I dont think it is, but some disagree).

 

Not saying Brooks is necessarily wrong about JB, but he would be faster than just about any player on Tour. Stuff like this can be handled in a different way as opposed to always calling out others in the media.

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We all know slow play exists. JB was not on anyone's clock. Koepka it's getting old. If you are thrown off by slow play, learn to deal with it or you are not a champion golfer.

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