Saw some new Callaway Woods last night (The Epic Thread)

[J13]

If this goes down the GolfWRX community deserves two things from our own "The Match"

 

We need Rob or Zach to live blog the Match

 

We need Greg on location to do full WITB's

 

Can those two requests happen as well

 

[QuickFeet]

My popcorn is out for this one. In my experience so far, no Callaway driver, or 3 wood has lived up to the insane hype on here and I don't see nearly as much Callaway product in play as I would expect with how much attention they get on internet forums. I lost interest in overly hyped Callaway products after a group of 10-15 handicaps were on here going on and on about how they could tell a huge difference in 200 rpms in spin that the Gravity Core could influence and would go nuts if anyone posted contrary to them. Hoping this one is different, and more interested to see how it stacks up against the new M1/M2.

 

Well.. :tongue:

 

I'm not quite seeing the connection between someone's handicap and their ability to see or feel a difference in a golf club. Are you saying you have to be a certain handicap before what you feel when you hit a golf ball becomes legitimate?

 

Rpm's aside, I used to play the 815 DBD and there was definitely a difference in feel between the gravity core settings. Or at least I thought there was...I'll get back to you after I double check where my index is currently.

 

I'll generally agree with Pure on his point of view. I think most golfers can see a difference in clubs; length, loft, head shape, top line, etc. (physical stuff); and maybe feel some differences; SW, overall weight, and shaft flex. But I think you have to be an elite player (simply due to the consistency of their swing) to see and feel performance differences between different setups and then to be able to accurately say that change A and B in the club influence X and Y performance. Higher index golfers just aren't consistent enough to do this.

 

Take the Callaway driver with the gravity core. I never hit it so I'm not sure if there is a difference in feel/sound when the core is in the up/down position. If you took 5 identical heads and builds (head loft/lie indicators removed, no shaft graphics) with the only difference being the position of the gravity core and did a blind test with 50 players (index of scratch to 15) there would be a handful that could accurately pick which heads had the gravity core up/down due to launch/spin of the shots. You would get a lot of comments about the clubs......different length, SW, overall weight, shaft flex, head loft, etc. which are guesses based on feel and sound.

 

You can help the test pool by telling them that the clubs are identical other than the position of the gravity core. Now the testers have a 50/50 chance to guess its position as this helps them shift their focus to ball flight.

 

If you used only one club and asked your test pool to hit 10 good shots with the core in the up and down positions (testers don't know position) and indicate launch angle and spin for each shot; very difficult to be accurate. Most may be able to indicate that one set of 10 shots launched higher/lower than the other or one set of 10 was higher/lower spin than the other. However, most golfers can't tell the difference between 2500-2700 versus 3000-3200 or 9.5^o versus 10.75^o launch angle.

 

Blind testing for the low and scratch players is very difficult, especially if they don't know what is being tested. As handicap index increases it becomes more difficult to deliver the club to the ball consistently. It's just really hard to judge performance of a driver, ball, shaft, wedge, etc. with variation from swing to swing.

[Brizam]

You and Ari, vs. Me and J13 and we give 2 and 3 shots? I'm in name the place and we're playing for an Audemars. Use your Wheels Up account and get out here.

 

Ari - 3 mph average is back into believable-land. :tongue: :drag: :drinks:

 

Ari... Lets book it. Tai... you will have to play with that blue driver you had in the finals of the 16 shootout. I will play my current gamer of this new Epic. I get 4 shots and Ari gets more.

 

Put the Audemars in escrow before we tee it up. Make it a real one to.

 

:air_kiss:

 

It's on the way now I'll use any clubs you want Nike drivers, Scratch irons.. won't matter. You get 3, Ari gets 4. :butcher:

 

I'm taking a M2 8.5 so you will get the head to head you're looking for.

[TMBob]

Could not find either head in the USGA Conformng List....so do they wait till the item is released before adding it?

[J13]

Next week I believe they get released on tour so you will see them on the USGA conforming list then but we already have pics of the sole and the sub zero is not much different then the current in terms of the sole. It has the weights in the same place. My hope is WRX gets tour pics to see the crown and face

[Pure745]

Could not find either head in the USGA Conformng List....so do they wait till the item is released before adding it?

 

Heard 12/1 is the date it hits the list and tour. Hearsay though, but sounds like that's the date.

[gregh729]

It'll be interesting to see the differences the big hitters get vs. what the mere mortals get.

[disk]

I keep coming in here and expecting something new each time but keep getting nothing but what looks like a bad game of telephone, the hype train is off the tracks and currently barreling through a small town. We don't have much time left before pros have these in the bag and I can't freaking wait, and can't say I have ever been this excited about a WRX trip I'm not involved with. Wether the hype is true or not I'll just be happy to finally see some results and if the EPIC really is as good as it sounds it's going to be huge for the slow swing speed guys like my Dad, 8 mph is the difference between a 200 yard drive and 215, pretty big gains for someone like him.

[hayzooos]

All this hype is not unsimilar to the Xhot Pro 3 wood hype at the time of Callawrx 1!!!

 

Which I still have in the bag to this day, but I'm thinking it'll be time for a new 3 wood next year.

 

You and Ari, vs. Me and J13 and we give 2 and 3 shots? I'm in name the place and we're playing for an Audemars. Use your Wheels Up account and get out here.

 

Ari - 3 mph average is back into believable-land. :tongue: :drag: :drinks:

 

Ari... Lets book it. Tai... you will have to play with that blue driver you had in the finals of the 16 shootout. I will play my current gamer of this new Epic. I get 4 shots and Ari gets more.

 

Put the Audemars in escrow before we tee it up. Make it a real one to.

 

:air_kiss:

 

I call dibs on being scorekeeper, and knudsen should come along for the slap stick comedic commentary and beard.

[Farrow]

My popcorn is out for this one. In my experience so far, no Callaway driver, or 3 wood has lived up to the insane hype on here and I don't see nearly as much Callaway product in play as I would expect with how much attention they get on internet forums. I lost interest in overly hyped Callaway products after a group of 10-15 handicaps were on here going on and on about how they could tell a huge difference in 200 rpms in spin that the Gravity Core could influence and would go nuts if anyone posted contrary to them. Hoping this one is different, and more interested to see how it stacks up against the new M1/M2.

 

Well.. :tongue:

 

I'm not quite seeing the connection between someone's handicap and their ability to see or feel a difference in a golf club. Are you saying you have to be a certain handicap before what you feel when you hit a golf ball becomes legitimate?

 

Rpm's aside, I used to play the 815 DBD and there was definitely a difference in feel between the gravity core settings. Or at least I thought there was...I'll get back to you after I double check where my index is currently.

 

I'll generally agree with Pure on his point of view. I think most golfers can see a difference in clubs; length, loft, head shape, top line, etc. (physical stuff); and maybe feel some differences; SW, overall weight, and shaft flex. But I think you have to be an elite player (simply due to the consistency of their swing) to see and feel performance differences between different setups and then to be able to accurately say that change A and B in the club influence X and Y performance. Higher index golfers just aren't consistent enough to do this.

 

Take the Callaway driver with the gravity core. I never hit it so I'm not sure if there is a difference in feel/sound when the core is in the up/down position. If you took 5 identical heads and builds (head loft/lie indicators removed, no shaft graphics) with the only difference being the position of the gravity core and did a blind test with 50 players (index of scratch to 15) there would be a handful that could accurately pick which heads had the gravity core up/down due to launch/spin of the shots. You would get a lot of comments about the clubs......different length, SW, overall weight, shaft flex, head loft, etc. which are guesses based on feel and sound.

 

You can help the test pool by telling them that the clubs are identical other than the position of the gravity core. Now the testers have a 50/50 chance to guess its position as this helps them shift their focus to ball flight.

 

If you used only one club and asked your test pool to hit 10 good shots with the core in the up and down positions (testers don't know position) and indicate launch angle and spin for each shot; very difficult to be accurate. Most may be able to indicate that one set of 10 shots launched higher/lower than the other or one set of 10 was higher/lower spin than the other. However, most golfers can't tell the difference between 2500-2700 versus 3000-3200 or 9.5^o versus 10.75^o launch angle.

 

Blind testing for the low and scratch players is very difficult, especially if they don't know what is being tested. As handicap index increases it becomes more difficult to deliver the club to the ball consistently. It's just really hard to judge performance of a driver, ball, shaft, wedge, etc. with variation from swing to swing.

 

I'm not talking about asking a 20 handicap to blindly hit shots with core up vs down and have them guess which was which. Even if they can't accurately say which setting was which, they most certainly have the ability to notice there was in fact a difference in feel. However I think there are some elitists on here who will disagree with me.

 

My overall point is that we should give the guys going on the trip the benefit of the doubt that if they aren't a scratch golfer their opinions and feedback are still worth something to us. Hopefully we don't have the same bullies showing up as last time driving them away from this great forum just because of their handicap.

[Gary Gutful]

So, today I discovered a whole bunch of things. I learnt what wheels up is and I also found out how many shots old mate is going to give the other guy at some thing that they appear to be planning.

 

Learnt sweet 'eff all about the new Callaway driver though...

[wobgon]

My popcorn is out for this one. In my experience so far, no Callaway driver, or 3 wood has lived up to the insane hype on here and I don't see nearly as much Callaway product in play as I would expect with how much attention they get on internet forums. I lost interest in overly hyped Callaway products after a group of 10-15 handicaps were on here going on and on about how they could tell a huge difference in 200 rpms in spin that the Gravity Core could influence and would go nuts if anyone posted contrary to them. Hoping this one is different, and more interested to see how it stacks up against the new M1/M2.

 

Well.. :tongue:

 

I'm not quite seeing the connection between someone's handicap and their ability to see or feel a difference in a golf club. Are you saying you have to be a certain handicap before what you feel when you hit a golf ball becomes legitimate?

 

Rpm's aside, I used to play the 815 DBD and there was definitely a difference in feel between the gravity core settings. Or at least I thought there was...I'll get back to you after I double check where my index is currently.

 

I'll generally agree with Pure on his point of view. I think most golfers can see a difference in clubs; length, loft, head shape, top line, etc. (physical stuff); and maybe feel some differences; SW, overall weight, and shaft flex. But I think you have to be an elite player (simply due to the consistency of their swing) to see and feel performance differences between different setups and then to be able to accurately say that change A and B in the club influence X and Y performance. Higher index golfers just aren't consistent enough to do this.

 

Take the Callaway driver with the gravity core. I never hit it so I'm not sure if there is a difference in feel/sound when the core is in the up/down position. If you took 5 identical heads and builds (head loft/lie indicators removed, no shaft graphics) with the only difference being the position of the gravity core and did a blind test with 50 players (index of scratch to 15) there would be a handful that could accurately pick which heads had the gravity core up/down due to launch/spin of the shots. You would get a lot of comments about the clubs......different length, SW, overall weight, shaft flex, head loft, etc. which are guesses based on feel and sound.

 

You can help the test pool by telling them that the clubs are identical other than the position of the gravity core. Now the testers have a 50/50 chance to guess its position as this helps them shift their focus to ball flight.

 

If you used only one club and asked your test pool to hit 10 good shots with the core in the up and down positions (testers don't know position) and indicate launch angle and spin for each shot; very difficult to be accurate. Most may be able to indicate that one set of 10 shots launched higher/lower than the other or one set of 10 was higher/lower spin than the other. However, most golfers can't tell the difference between 2500-2700 versus 3000-3200 or 9.5^o versus 10.75^o launch angle.

 

Blind testing for the low and scratch players is very difficult, especially if they don't know what is being tested. As handicap index increases it becomes more difficult to deliver the club to the ball consistently. It's just really hard to judge performance of a driver, ball, shaft, wedge, etc. with variation from swing to swing.

 

I'm not talking about asking a 20 handicap to blindly hit shots with core up vs down and have them guess which was which. Even if they can't accurately say which setting was which, they most certainly have the ability to notice there was in fact a difference in feel. However I think there are some elitists on here who will disagree with me.

 

My overall point is that we should give the guys going on the trip the benefit of the doubt that if they aren't a scratch golfer their opinions and feedback are still worth something to us. Hopefully we don't have the same bullies showing up as last time driving them away from this great forum just because of their handicap.

How often do we see someone coming back from one of these trips and saying......I did not like the OEM's equipment?

[Farrow]

My popcorn is out for this one. In my experience so far, no Callaway driver, or 3 wood has lived up to the insane hype on here and I don't see nearly as much Callaway product in play as I would expect with how much attention they get on internet forums. I lost interest in overly hyped Callaway products after a group of 10-15 handicaps were on here going on and on about how they could tell a huge difference in 200 rpms in spin that the Gravity Core could influence and would go nuts if anyone posted contrary to them. Hoping this one is different, and more interested to see how it stacks up against the new M1/M2.

 

Well.. :tongue:

 

I'm not quite seeing the connection between someone's handicap and their ability to see or feel a difference in a golf club. Are you saying you have to be a certain handicap before what you feel when you hit a golf ball becomes legitimate?

 

Rpm's aside, I used to play the 815 DBD and there was definitely a difference in feel between the gravity core settings. Or at least I thought there was...I'll get back to you after I double check where my index is currently.

 

I'll generally agree with Pure on his point of view. I think most golfers can see a difference in clubs; length, loft, head shape, top line, etc. (physical stuff); and maybe feel some differences; SW, overall weight, and shaft flex. But I think you have to be an elite player (simply due to the consistency of their swing) to see and feel performance differences between different setups and then to be able to accurately say that change A and B in the club influence X and Y performance. Higher index golfers just aren't consistent enough to do this.

 

Take the Callaway driver with the gravity core. I never hit it so I'm not sure if there is a difference in feel/sound when the core is in the up/down position. If you took 5 identical heads and builds (head loft/lie indicators removed, no shaft graphics) with the only difference being the position of the gravity core and did a blind test with 50 players (index of scratch to 15) there would be a handful that could accurately pick which heads had the gravity core up/down due to launch/spin of the shots. You would get a lot of comments about the clubs......different length, SW, overall weight, shaft flex, head loft, etc. which are guesses based on feel and sound.

 

You can help the test pool by telling them that the clubs are identical other than the position of the gravity core. Now the testers have a 50/50 chance to guess its position as this helps them shift their focus to ball flight.

 

If you used only one club and asked your test pool to hit 10 good shots with the core in the up and down positions (testers don't know position) and indicate launch angle and spin for each shot; very difficult to be accurate. Most may be able to indicate that one set of 10 shots launched higher/lower than the other or one set of 10 was higher/lower spin than the other. However, most golfers can't tell the difference between 2500-2700 versus 3000-3200 or 9.5^o versus 10.75^o launch angle.

 

Blind testing for the low and scratch players is very difficult, especially if they don't know what is being tested. As handicap index increases it becomes more difficult to deliver the club to the ball consistently. It's just really hard to judge performance of a driver, ball, shaft, wedge, etc. with variation from swing to swing.

 

I'm not talking about asking a 20 handicap to blindly hit shots with core up vs down and have them guess which was which. Even if they can't accurately say which setting was which, they most certainly have the ability to notice there was in fact a difference in feel. However I think there are some elitists on here who will disagree with me.

 

My overall point is that we should give the guys going on the trip the benefit of the doubt that if they aren't a scratch golfer their opinions and feedback are still worth something to us. Hopefully we don't have the same bullies showing up as last time driving them away from this great forum just because of their handicap.

How often do we see someone coming back from one of these trips and saying......I did not like the OEM's equipment?

 

That's pretty much what I'm saying too. Obviously there's going to be a lot of gushing over which ever OEM sponsored the trip, but just because someone is outwardly grateful to the entity which enabled their experience doesn't illegitimize the experience itself. I would expect that some of these guys become fans of a company they might not been big fans of in the past, others may not.

[Destroyer]

i say we make the guys playing the match all hit the new callaway driver.

[Pure745]

My popcorn is out for this one. In my experience so far, no Callaway driver, or 3 wood has lived up to the insane hype on here and I don't see nearly as much Callaway product in play as I would expect with how much attention they get on internet forums. I lost interest in overly hyped Callaway products after a group of 10-15 handicaps were on here going on and on about how they could tell a huge difference in 200 rpms in spin that the Gravity Core could influence and would go nuts if anyone posted contrary to them. Hoping this one is different, and more interested to see how it stacks up against the new M1/M2.

 

Well.. :tongue:

 

I'm not quite seeing the connection between someone's handicap and their ability to see or feel a difference in a golf club. Are you saying you have to be a certain handicap before what you feel when you hit a golf ball becomes legitimate?

 

Rpm's aside, I used to play the 815 DBD and there was definitely a difference in feel between the gravity core settings. Or at least I thought there was...I'll get back to you after I double check where my index is currently.

 

I'll generally agree with Pure on his point of view. I think most golfers can see a difference in clubs; length, loft, head shape, top line, etc. (physical stuff); and maybe feel some differences; SW, overall weight, and shaft flex. But I think you have to be an elite player (simply due to the consistency of their swing) to see and feel performance differences between different setups and then to be able to accurately say that change A and B in the club influence X and Y performance. Higher index golfers just aren't consistent enough to do this.

 

Take the Callaway driver with the gravity core. I never hit it so I'm not sure if there is a difference in feel/sound when the core is in the up/down position. If you took 5 identical heads and builds (head loft/lie indicators removed, no shaft graphics) with the only difference being the position of the gravity core and did a blind test with 50 players (index of scratch to 15) there would be a handful that could accurately pick which heads had the gravity core up/down due to launch/spin of the shots. You would get a lot of comments about the clubs......different length, SW, overall weight, shaft flex, head loft, etc. which are guesses based on feel and sound.

 

You can help the test pool by telling them that the clubs are identical other than the position of the gravity core. Now the testers have a 50/50 chance to guess its position as this helps them shift their focus to ball flight.

 

If you used only one club and asked your test pool to hit 10 good shots with the core in the up and down positions (testers don't know position) and indicate launch angle and spin for each shot; very difficult to be accurate. Most may be able to indicate that one set of 10 shots launched higher/lower than the other or one set of 10 was higher/lower spin than the other. However, most golfers can't tell the difference between 2500-2700 versus 3000-3200 or 9.5^o versus 10.75^o launch angle.

 

Blind testing for the low and scratch players is very difficult, especially if they don't know what is being tested. As handicap index increases it becomes more difficult to deliver the club to the ball consistently. It's just really hard to judge performance of a driver, ball, shaft, wedge, etc. with variation from swing to swing.

 

I'm not talking about asking a 20 handicap to blindly hit shots with core up vs down and have them guess which was which. Even if they can't accurately say which setting was which, they most certainly have the ability to notice there was in fact a difference in feel. However I think there are some elitists on here who will disagree with me.

 

My overall point is that we should give the guys going on the trip the benefit of the doubt that if they aren't a scratch golfer their opinions and feedback are still worth something to us. Hopefully we don't have the same bullies showing up as last time driving them away from this great forum just because of their handicap.

How often do we see someone coming back from one of these trips and saying......I did not like the OEM's equipment?

 

I did it the first Nike trip - but it was the Covert line, pretty easy not to like :)

[Tcann32]

My popcorn is out for this one. In my experience so far, no Callaway driver, or 3 wood has lived up to the insane hype on here and I don't see nearly as much Callaway product in play as I would expect with how much attention they get on internet forums. I lost interest in overly hyped Callaway products after a group of 10-15 handicaps were on here going on and on about how they could tell a huge difference in 200 rpms in spin that the Gravity Core could influence and would go nuts if anyone posted contrary to them. Hoping this one is different, and more interested to see how it stacks up against the new M1/M2.

 

Well.. :tongue:

 

I'm not quite seeing the connection between someone's handicap and their ability to see or feel a difference in a golf club. Are you saying you have to be a certain handicap before what you feel when you hit a golf ball becomes legitimate?

 

Rpm's aside, I used to play the 815 DBD and there was definitely a difference in feel between the gravity core settings. Or at least I thought there was...I'll get back to you after I double check where my index is currently.

 

I'll generally agree with Pure on his point of view. I think most golfers can see a difference in clubs; length, loft, head shape, top line, etc. (physical stuff); and maybe feel some differences; SW, overall weight, and shaft flex. But I think you have to be an elite player (simply due to the consistency of their swing) to see and feel performance differences between different setups and then to be able to accurately say that change A and B in the club influence X and Y performance. Higher index golfers just aren't consistent enough to do this.

 

Take the Callaway driver with the gravity core. I never hit it so I'm not sure if there is a difference in feel/sound when the core is in the up/down position. If you took 5 identical heads and builds (head loft/lie indicators removed, no shaft graphics) with the only difference being the position of the gravity core and did a blind test with 50 players (index of scratch to 15) there would be a handful that could accurately pick which heads had the gravity core up/down due to launch/spin of the shots. You would get a lot of comments about the clubs......different length, SW, overall weight, shaft flex, head loft, etc. which are guesses based on feel and sound.

 

You can help the test pool by telling them that the clubs are identical other than the position of the gravity core. Now the testers have a 50/50 chance to guess its position as this helps them shift their focus to ball flight.

 

If you used only one club and asked your test pool to hit 10 good shots with the core in the up and down positions (testers don't know position) and indicate launch angle and spin for each shot; very difficult to be accurate. Most may be able to indicate that one set of 10 shots launched higher/lower than the other or one set of 10 was higher/lower spin than the other. However, most golfers can't tell the difference between 2500-2700 versus 3000-3200 or 9.5^o versus 10.75^o launch angle.

 

Blind testing for the low and scratch players is very difficult, especially if they don't know what is being tested. As handicap index increases it becomes more difficult to deliver the club to the ball consistently. It's just really hard to judge performance of a driver, ball, shaft, wedge, etc. with variation from swing to swing.

 

The gravity core in the 816 DBD is extremely noticeable between it's different positions, IMO.

 

As far as everything else, you're probably right. The hidden factor though, is confidence. I'm doubting that I'm the only one to experience a reasonably large gain in performance from one club to another based on very little change, outside of the fact that SOMETHING is just right with it.

[kyle75]

I mentioned a week ago how great this thread has been and I didn't think it could get better, but it has. We have a possible match between Pure & Easyyy and the reintroduction of the Callawy gravity core truthers.

[ZAP]

Someone needs to retitle this the EPIC thread. It will be true in several meanings.

[The Chicken Connoisseur]

Just hit this. Lost 10 mph of ball speed compared to my Cobra. But it was 10 mph faster than Titleist

[mackepa]

I have always liked Callaway product but I think the point of the trip isn't to gush over the new product and praise Callaway up and down. I'm going to do my absolute best and giving an honest review and post the facts and keep opinions at a minimum.

 

I think it's been fairly evident that I'm excited to go but I'm skeptical about the gains that some have claimed. I'm not saying that it isn't possible for someone to see gains of 7-8mph in ballspeed but I could pretty much guarantee that not everyone will see those gains. This driver really sounds like it has potential to change the way companies design drivers but until I personally see results in my own game I will sit tight on praising it.

 

Disclaimer: I said I'm a Callaway fan but I would argue with anyone that the M2 is probably driver of the year for 2016.

[JonnyKrasnodar]

M2 is driver of the last few years. It's literally a game changer and the fact 8/10 pros are using it is testament to that.

 

Callaway going with names Fusion and Epic...reminds me of chocolate bars of the late 80's to early 90's...just not attracting me at all.

[Pure745]

I have always liked Callaway product but I think the point of the trip isn't to gush over the new product and praise Callaway up and down. I'm going to do my absolute best and giving an honest review and post the facts and keep opinions at a minimum.

 

I think it's been fairly evident that I'm excited to go but I'm skeptical about the gains that some have claimed. I'm not saying that it isn't possible for someone to see gains of 7-8mph in ballspeed but I could pretty much guarantee that not everyone will see those gains. This driver really sounds like it has potential to change the way companies design drivers but until I personally see results in my own game I will sit tight on praising it.

 

Disclaimer: I said I'm a Callaway fan but I would argue with anyone that the M2 is probably driver of the year for 2016.

 

My apologies for derailing this thread with banter with Easyyy (I'm pretty sure it's his fault anyways) :tongue: The Callaway trip doesn't even need to be brought up in this thread, I'm sure there is another lengthy thread full of greatness to come and I don't want my previous perceptions of Callaway and a specific Callaway trip to cloud my enjoyment of your upcoming trip. I'm glad to see a few guys picked for this trip and I'm sure your experiences will be amazing.

 

That said, I'm putting zero expectations or weight on any of your reviews (no offense), nothing personal, just I've learned that expecting too much from these trips or hosted events and then seeing what is actually written or brought back is not fair for those in attendance or me as a reader. Some of my observations from previous trips have severely skewed my perception of Callaway and guys picked on previous trips and a few already getting their feelings hurt from my opinions and not know context of why they are what they are. No big deal, I've taken my fair share of lumps on here too, so I know the feeling :)

 

Anyways, I've added the only credible input I have many pages back and I'm sure around 12/1 we'll have all seen it and probably hit by then so I'm going to sit tight till then unless anymore information actually surfaces. My apologies again for taking this off track last page :drinks:

[Peanut191]

Just hit this. Lost 10 mph of ball speed compared to my Cobra. But it was 10 mph faster than Titleist

 

Well, if that's the case, you should try hitting the center of the face more often :)

[bruinsPATSirish]

Well my M1 cracked today, guess someone better scoop me an Epic while they're in Carlsbad!

[I.AM.PACO]

.reminds me of chocolate bars of the late 80's to early 90's

 

 

[prorobo]

Well my M1 cracked today, guess someone better scoop me an Epic while they're in Carlsbad!

 

Did it crack on the face or the infamous crown toe location bulge?

[JonnyKrasnodar]

.reminds me of chocolate bars of the late 80's to early 90's

 

 

...

[bruinsPATSirish]

Well my M1 cracked today, guess someone better scoop me an Epic while they're in Carlsbad!

 

Did it crack on the face or the infamous crown toe location bulge?

 

Mine is actually neither, there is a fracture towards the actual toe. Looks odd, could have been there for a little while but I just noticed it this afternoon while playing

[wobgon]

M2 is driver of the last few years. It's literally a game changer and the fact 8/10 pros are using it is testament to that.

 

Callaway going with names Fusion and Epic...reminds me of chocolate bars of the late 80's to early 90's...just not attracting me at all.

Did I read what you said correctly.......8 of 10 pro's are using it? By the way, i think the M1 is great. I don't care for the M2 at all.

[Cwing]

M2 is driver of the last few years. It's literally a game changer and the fact 8/10 pros are using it is testament to that.

 

Callaway going with names Fusion and Epic...reminds me of chocolate bars of the late 80's to early 90's...just not attracting me at all.

Did I read what you said correctly.......8 of 10 pro's are using it? By the way, i think the M1 is great. I don't care for the M2 at all.

 

Source of that info?