Scratch versus Top-20 in the World Pro

[PureStrikes54]

Obee is baiting everyone into these the top 20 pro "destroys him" responses. This isn't your normal one trick poney "club scratch", this is a dude with a heavily tournament tested game that travels. I think the match goes down to the last hole and is very even.

[bscinstnct]

Cmon Obee, spill the beans!

[swizbeatz]

Obee is baiting everyone into these the top 20 pro "destroys him" responses. This isn't your normal one trick poney "club scratch", this is a dude with a heavily tournament tested game that travels. I think the match goes down to the last hole and is very even.

 

The only thing that gets me is the length, obee isn't very long if I remember correctly. He could definitely win this one but I put his win rate at ~20% tops. Like my earlier post, staying within 6 at this type of course is basically saying you would have a chance to play the weekend at a PGA event

[J13]

Been thinking about this and now that I have an Epic in the bag I only need 1 shot a side. Me vs DJ with 1 a side who's with me? :D lol Anyone who's played with professional players knows how good they really are. It's not really close unless your giving a lot of shots.

[PureStrikes54]

Obee is baiting everyone into these the top 20 pro "destroys him" responses. This isn't your normal one trick poney "club scratch", this is a dude with a heavily tournament tested game that travels. I think the match goes down to the last hole and is very even.

 

The only thing that gets me is the length, obee isn't very long if I remember correctly. He could definitely win this one but I put his win rate at ~20% tops. Like my earlier post, staying within 6 at this type of course is basically saying you would have a chance to play the weekend at a PGA event

 

I agree on the length part. I just don't see Obee getting involved in a bet he thinks he has little to no chance in. Strokes in match play are also much more meaningful than medal.

[BIG STU]

Can we not get a week, without a thread about the Scratch player who thinks he's hot stuff and the proverbial PGA Tour player who's going to clean his clock, 90% of the time?

 

 

It's been re-hashed over and over and over again.

 

Virtually every PGA Tour Player has the potential to shoot 59-64 on the toughest courses in the world, every time he tees it up.

 

The typical Scratch Player's POTENTIAL is that he can shoot the Course Rating on a given day.

 

That's more than 1/2 stroke/hole guys.

I actually agree with you on principal. There are many factors including mainly who the players are and the course slope rating etc. Would like to see what odds are being offered. Of course I am a gambler so objectively I would have weigh things before making a comittment either way or the other. But it is fun reading this afternoon when it is raining and cold here

[Hawkeye77]

Can we not get a week, without a thread about the Scratch player who thinks he's hot stuff and the proverbial PGA Tour player who's going to clean his clock, 90% of the time?

 

 

It's been re-hashed over and over and over again.

 

Virtually every PGA Tour Player has the potential to shoot 59-64 on the toughest courses in the world, every time he tees it up.

 

The typical Scratch Player's POTENTIAL is that he can shoot the Course Rating on a given day.

 

That's more than 1/2 stroke/hole guys.

 

And in other news, water is still wet.

 

You have missed the point of this thread and your post is an insult to someone who has posted up several insightful and real experiences.

 

No gimmee on this one - triple bogey post.

[Christosterone]

I would bet my entire retirement the following:

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1) The 2017 US junior amateur champion could wax every single golfwrx member giving 3 shots a side…

2) The 2017 US amateur champion would win giving them 6 shots a side…

3) Someone who is top 20 in the world could beat a scratch wrxer giving them 9 shots aside...

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None of these matches would be close.

 

-Chris

[BIG STU]

Obee is baiting everyone into these the top 20 pro "destroys him" responses. This isn't your normal one trick poney "club scratch", this is a dude with a heavily tournament tested game that travels. I think the match goes down to the last hole and is very even.

Oh yeah I see right through it-- He is getting odds for some match he has planned already--- Yep it takes a hustler to know a hustler

[BIG STU]

I would bet my entire retirement the following:

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1) The 2017 US junior amateur champion could wax every single golfwrx member giving 3 shots a side…

2) The 2017 US amateur champion would win giving them 6 shots a side…

3) Someone who is top 20 in the world could beat a scratch wrxer giving them 9 shots aside...

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None of these matches would be close.

 

-Chris

LOL talk about a stone lock bet!!! I will take half of your action on that!

[DavePelz4]

Been thinking about this and now that I have an Epic in the bag I only need 1 shot a side. Me vs DJ with 1 a side who's with me? :D lol Anyone who's played with professional players knows how good they really are. It's not really close unless your giving a lot of shots.

 

Are you talking DJ Tanner from Full House?

 

[DavePelz4]

Can we not get a week, without a thread about the Scratch player who thinks he's hot stuff and the proverbial PGA Tour player who's going to clean his clock, 90% of the time?

 

 

It's been re-hashed over and over and over again.

 

Virtually every PGA Tour Player has the potential to shoot 59-64 on the toughest courses in the world, every time he tees it up.

 

The typical Scratch Player's POTENTIAL is that he can shoot the Course Rating on a given day.

 

That's more than 1/2 stroke/hole guys.

 

And in other news, water is still wet.

 

You have missed the point of this thread and your post is an insult to someone who has posted up several insightful and real experiences.

 

No gimmee on this one - triple bogey post.

 

Well said Hawk. Obee has a great track record and the details in the stories always increase the likelihood of him having a fighting chance.

[PureStrikes54]

I would bet my entire retirement the following:

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1) The 2017 US junior amateur champion could wax every single golfwrx member giving 3 shots a side…

2) The 2017 US amateur champion would win giving them 6 shots a side…

3) Someone who is top 20 in the world could beat a scratch wrxer giving them 9 shots aside...

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None of these matches would be close.

 

-Chris

LOL talk about a stone lock bet!!! I will take half of your action on that!

 

Your retirement is going to consist of a bread line and section 8 housing. US Am champ giving 6 a side???? US junior giving 3 a side??? ?????

 

Matt Hansen, Monte, Fireblade, Pat Burke, Bowdo (current PGA tour cardholder), Isaac, Robert Damron, and many many others.

[golfer07840]

 

 

 

Virtually every PGA Tour Player has the potential to shoot 59-64 on the toughest courses in the world, every time he tees it up.

 

The typical Scratch Player's POTENTIAL is that he can shoot the Course Rating on a given day.

 

That's more than 1/2 stroke/hole guys.

 

Wasn't there an article 2 or 3 weeks ago here on Golfwrx comparing the​ difference between a scratch player and a TOUR Pro? If I recall correctly, the difference is frighteningly large.

 

[KYMAR]

Should I practice with blades?

[MtlJeff]

Always bet on black.

 

Can we get the story already? I think that mark dude nailed the answer on page 1 for the question in its generic sense

[PowderedToastMan]

I would bet my entire retirement the following:

---------------------------

1) The 2017 US junior amateur champion could wax every single golfwrx member giving 3 shots a side…

2) The 2017 US amateur champion would win giving them 6 shots a side…

3) Someone who is top 20 in the world could beat a scratch wrxer giving them 9 shots aside...

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None of these matches would be close.

 

-Chris

Let's draw up the paper work and make this bet happen. I could use the money.

[Hawkeye77]

I assume Obee is golfing and we won't get the story until tonight, but darn it, I could use it right now. This picture does not do justice to how quickly the snow has been accumulating!

[kg92lefty]

Scratch isn't even good. People need to realize that. On said course (7200, 75.7, 146) an average 0 shoots 76-81 most days. Big deal.

[BMC]

Does the Top 20 Pro get.....

 

A caddie

Pristine Pro V range balls for warm-up

A complimentary rental car

Free breakfast buffet

His own yardages

Spectators finding his wayward 310 yard drives

Does he walk?

 

 

If the answer is no to all of the above, I've got a "buck" on the AM.

[Hawkeye77]

Scratch isn't even good. People need to realize that. On said course (7200, 75.7, 146) an average 0 shoots 76-80 most days. Big deal.

 

What? Scratch is an elite level in the game of golf, no debate about it.

 

Inside top 2% of all golfers who maintain handicaps. Since most don't that statistic greatly understates the significance of how good a scratch golfer is.

 

You need to realize that! ;-)

[2putttom]

Cmon Obee, spill the beans!

c'mon Ob's while were young :taunt:

[Shilgy]

Scratch isn't even good. People need to realize that. On said course (7200, 75.7, 146) an average 0 shoots 76-80 most days. Big deal.

 

What? Scratch is an elite level in the game of golf, no debate about it.

 

Inside top 2% of all golfers who maintain handicaps. Since most don't that statistic greatly understates the significance of how good a scratch golfer is.

 

You need to realize that! ;-)

Scratch would average about 78.7 on that course. Compared to tour golf scratch is no good at all.

[BrianL99]

Cmon Obee, spill the beans!

c'mon Ob's while were young :taunt:

 

Please don't.

 

Is there anyway I can block an entire thread from showing up on my feed?

 

If I read one more of the OP's "stroke by stroke, see how good I am" stories, I'll need extensive therapy ... worse than I already need.

[Shilgy]

If I got 3 a side on a 7200yd course I'd take on Pga tour player with the expectation that I'd win if I played well. Not saying I would gamble my house on it but I would put some cash up. If I shoot say -2 they would have to shoot 63 to beat me. That's not easy regardless of who you are.

What are the odds of a scratch shooting 5.7 strokes under the course rating? Never mind I looked it up. About 600-1. Maybe a bit higher. So sure, the scratch has a chance. :)

[mizuno player]

Well, anything can happen. That's why they play game. It's not played on paper. Enough cliches??

 

The scratch no doubt has to play near flawless. It would be nice if you could decide where the strokes fell.

 

Impossible? No. But odds aren't high. Can't wait to hear the story.

[WidespreadPanic]

The #1,600-something player in the world has a chance right now to win a PGA tourney. And we're talking top 20 in this thread? Give me a break.

[BrianL99]

I would bet my entire retirement the following:

---------------------------

1) The 2017 US junior amateur champion could wax every single golfwrx member giving 3 shots a side…

2) The 2017 US amateur champion would win giving them 6 shots a side…

 

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None of these matches would be close.

 

-Chris

 

 

I hope you have an alternative plan for retirement?

 

You must be new on the site and not have a clue who some of the posters are.

[Cool Hand Luke]

Tour pro wins 99/100 times.... so I'm saying there's a chance ?

[DavePelz4]

Cmon Obee, spill the beans!

c'mon Ob's while were young :taunt:

 

Please don't.

 

Is there anyway I can block an entire thread from showing up on my feed?

 

If I read one more of the OP's "stroke by stroke, see how good I am" stories, I'll need extensive therapy ... worse than I already need.

 

Perhaps if OB was a member at 2 semi private clubs you'd think differently.