Jimmy Walker admits to regularly breaking rule of golf on Twitter

[BlackDiamondPar5]

Did anybody post these yet?

 

https://ftw.usatoday...eo-golf-channel

 

Balls on the green should be marked when other people are chipping - Period.

 

What about pitching? How about 40 yards off? 100? Where does it stop? 185? Doesn't really protect the field that much unless every ball is marked on the green on all approaches.

 

This is obviously why it’s hard to legislate.

 

I realize you can’t write the rule this way, but I would say anything not “in regulation” should have everything marked on the green.

Yeah and slow things down even more... Just what the game needs.

[sailfishchris]

What are the odds somebody at Shinnecock tells Walker he should mark his ball this week?

 

[raynorfan1]

What are the odds somebody at Shinnecock tells Walker he should mark his ball this week?

 

I’m hoping for a DQ the first time he doesn’t, with his tweet used as evidence of an “agreement”.

[TMoakley1547]

Ive always been a big fan of Jimmy, but to come out and say this was beyond dumb. Its one thing to be ignorant and not know that its a rules infraction, but then to make it worse by saying he picks and chooses who he does and doesnt mark for, based on if he likes the player or not, I cant even wrap my head around it.

[Konklifer]

Jimmy looks like a d-bag. And his wife getting involved only makes it worse.

 

This thread going on seven pages should be a violation.

[davep043]

Ive always been a big fan of Jimmy, but to come out and say this was beyond dumb. Its one thing to be ignorant and not know that its a rules infraction, but then to make it worse by saying he picks and chooses who he does and doesnt mark for, based on if he likes the player or not, I cant even wrap my head around it.

I don't give him any credit for smarts, but he's honest. I guarantee that most of the guys pick and choose who they "help" this way. I think getting the whole deal in the open, in the words of a player instead of a golf writer, may actually push players to do things right. It'll be interesting to see if the USGA walking officials are instructed to monitor play this week, and require balls to be marked when they're in a position to help another player. I wouldn't expect the officials for regular PGA events to do that, the tour wouldn't want to embarrass themselves that way, but the USGA just might.

[bladehunter]

He said, from his social media account...

 

Sports fan site account.

[BNGL]

Ive always been a big fan of Jimmy, but to come out and say this was beyond dumb. Its one thing to be ignorant and not know that its a rules infraction, but then to make it worse by saying he picks and chooses who he does and doesnt mark for, based on if he likes the player or not, I cant even wrap my head around it.

 

That’s the way it works. WD’s work the same way too. For example say I’m playing the US Open. I roll my ankle getting out of my courtesy Cadillac on Tuesday. I play and get treatment after, doesn’t feel great. Wednesday not much better. I check the alternates and see that my best friend Nick, is first alternate. Suddenly my ankle hurts a ton more, I’ll WD so my friend can get a start. However if it’s my rival, Joe, he can shove it. I’ll tee off on one then WD. Just so he doesn’t get a start. Rather extreme example but it happens.

[bladehunter]

Just saw his interview on this and think he mirrors what I said earlier. That he is just telling us how it is On tour. He said “ I’ll just say , do you want me to put a mark on that “? And he moves accordingly. I say the same if a person is pitching and ready to go. Purely to not jump in the way. Immelmann just said he did the same.

[Socrates]

Jimmy looks like a d-bag. And his wife getting involved only makes it worse.

 

This thread going on seven pages should be a violation.

Only 7? I predict 20+

[BNGL]

Just saw his interview on this and think he mirrors what I said earlier. That he is just telling us how it is On tour. He said Ill just say , do you want me to put a mark on that ? And he moves accordingly. I say the same if a person is pitching and ready to go. Purely to not jump in the way. Immelmann just said he did the same.

 

I think that’s true at every level of competitive golf. I know I e done it, and will probably continue to do it.

 

Want a spot on that?

 

Nah I’m good.

 

 

[marmooskapaul]

My buddies stand a better chance of hitting my ball if it's 20' from the hole ...as opposed to 20" .

[Jasonic]

Did anybody post these yet?

 

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/10/golf-rules-tony-finau-justin-thomas-usga-video-golf-channel

 

Balls on the green should be marked when other people are chipping - Period.

 

 

Do they paint a line around every green to dictate the “must mark” zone?

 

Not needed if you’re a smart person who can think for themselves. Pretty obvious if you’ve golfed more than once.

[BiggErn]

Did anybody post these yet?

 

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/10/golf-rules-tony-finau-justin-thomas-usga-video-golf-channel

 

Balls on the green should be marked when other people are chipping - Period.

 

 

Do they paint a line around every green to dictate the must mark zone?

 

Not needed if youre a smart person who can think for themselves. Pretty obvious if youve golfed more than once.

 

 

Lol what? Your response is as vague as the issue at hand. Your attempt at insult doesn’t bother me either btw.

[lowheel]

I cant believe this counted... should have been DQed right away!!!!

 

[BiggErn]

I cant believe this counted... should have been DQed right away!!!!

 

 

 

Obviously should’ve been marked! A smart person that had golfed more than once would know that!

[Always_rough]

I cant believe this counted... should have been DQed right away!!!!

 

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Obviously should’ve been marked! A smart person that had golfed more than once would know that!

 

Alright I understand this is sarcasm, or at least I hope, but to clarify for anyone who might see this otherwise, shots like this aren't what people in this thread are complaining about.

 

What we're talking about is, if around the green you have time to mark before your partner chips, ESPECIALLY in instances where if they were to hit your ball it would benefit them, then you SHOULD mark to protect the field. Anywhere from 10 yards out is ridiculous to ask to mark.

[lowheel]

I cant believe this counted... should have been DQed right away!!!!

 

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Obviously should’ve been marked! A smart person that had golfed more than once would know that!

 

Alright I understand this is sarcasm, or at least I hope, but to clarify for anyone who might see this otherwise, shots like this aren't what people in this thread are complaining about.

 

What we're talking about is, if around the green you have time to mark before your partner chips, ESPECIALLY in instances where if they were to hit your ball it would benefit them, then you SHOULD mark to protect the field. Anywhere from 10 yards out is ridiculous to ask to mark.

 

[Dicka]

Speeds up play...that's funny. Given the way so many of these blokes dick around on the green, leaving the ball would make about 0.01% difference to the pace of play.

[Deceptively Short]

As to when to mark or not, it is quite simple, just imagine it’s matchplay. If I think my ball in matchplay is potentially going to help my opponent then I am marking it, if not I won’t, unless of course he asks me to.

Sure eggs are eggs if there is any chance at all of my ball hindering my opponent in matchplay or fellow competitor in strokeplay he is going to ask me to mark it - slowing play doesn’t seem to be any issue then.

[North Texas]

My main question is where is the line to always mark balls on the green and where not to? Its not a solid line but a blur.

 

Both players in greenside bunkers or chipping from within 10-20' - Definitely mark

 

Approach shot from 150yrds out? Well if one guy is close a back stopping situation could arise but no one is going to mark when both players are out that far..... There is no clear line.

 

It has been mentioned more than once in this thread what the "line" is for when you should mark your ball. But a lot of people on here have seemed to miss it.

[BlackDiamondPar5]

My buddies stand a better chance of hitting my ball if it's 20' from the hole ...as opposed to 20" .

This is the best and most honestly humble post in the thread!

[Rangeballz]

My recently departed father gave me a great piece of advice that I will now pass on to Mr. Walker......

 

"Son, sometimes it's best just to STFU."

[imakaveli]

Ive always been a big fan of Jimmy, but to come out and say this was beyond dumb. Its one thing to be ignorant and not know that its a rules infraction, but then to make it worse by saying he picks and chooses who he does and doesnt mark for, based on if he likes the player or not, I cant even wrap my head around it.

 

That’s the way it works. WD’s work the same way too. For example say I’m playing the US Open. I roll my ankle getting out of my courtesy Cadillac on Tuesday. I play and get treatment after, doesn’t feel great. Wednesday not much better. I check the alternates and see that my best friend Nick, is first alternate. Suddenly my ankle hurts a ton more, I’ll WD so my friend can get a start. However if it’s my rival, Joe, he can shove it. I’ll tee off on one then WD. Just so he doesn’t get a start. Rather extreme example but it happens.

 

But you are not breaking any rules there, you are just behaving like a db

[canonlbp430]

Anybody know how the rule works if you say you're going to mark your ball and playing partner says "no leave it" and then you say, "No, I will mark" and then he hits before you get there or worse yet he hits as you're doing it and you have moved your ball while his is in motion? Thinking specifically for a match play situation.

[raynorfan1]

Anybody know how the rule works if you say you're going to mark your ball and playing partner says "no leave it" and then you say, "No, I will mark" and then he hits before you get there or worse yet he hits as you're doing it and you have moved your ball while his is in motion? Thinking specifically for a match play situation.

 

No penalty on anybody.

[Stuart_G]

Anybody know how the rule works if you say you're going to mark your ball and playing partner says "no leave it" and then you say, "No, I will mark" and then he hits before you get there or worse yet he hits as you're doing it and you have moved your ball while his is in motion? Thinking specifically for a match play situation.

 

Sorry - wait a second. Do you really mean your partner? or your opponent?

 

in stroke play it would be a DQ - see dec 3-4/1.

 

In match play, it would likely be a loss of hole penalty - if someone chooses to make a claim in a timely manner.

[canonlbp430]

Anybody know how the rule works if you say you're going to mark your ball and playing partner says "no leave it" and then you say, "No, I will mark" and then he hits before you get there or worse yet he hits as you're doing it and you have moved your ball while his is in motion? Thinking specifically for a match play situation.

 

First of all, I think you mean fellow competitor, not partner - why wouldn't you want to help out your partner ;-)

 

But failure to comply with a rule is generally a DQ offense:

 

3-4/1

 

Competitor Not Given Opportunity to Lift Ball Assisting Fellow-Competitor

 

Q.In stroke play, A's ball lies near the hole in a position to assist B, whose ball lies off the putting green. A states his intention to lift his ball under Rule 22-1. B mistakenly believes that A does not have the right to lift his ball and plays before A has an opportunity to lift his ball. What is the ruling?

 

A.B is disqualified under Rule 3-4 as he intentionally denied A's right to lift his ball. It is irrelevant that B did so in ignorance of the Rules.

 

Thanks good to know....

[Stuart_G]

Anybody know how the rule works if you say you're going to mark your ball and playing partner says "no leave it" and then you say, "No, I will mark" and then he hits before you get there or worse yet he hits as you're doing it and you have moved your ball while his is in motion? Thinking specifically for a match play situation.

 

First of all, I think you mean fellow competitor, not partner - why wouldn't you want to help out your partner ;-)

 

But failure to comply with a rule is generally a DQ offense:

 

3-4/1

 

Competitor Not Given Opportunity to Lift Ball Assisting Fellow-Competitor

 

Q.In stroke play, A's ball lies near the hole in a position to assist B, whose ball lies off the putting green. A states his intention to lift his ball under Rule 22-1. B mistakenly believes that A does not have the right to lift his ball and plays before A has an opportunity to lift his ball. What is the ruling?

 

A.B is disqualified under Rule 3-4 as he intentionally denied A's right to lift his ball. It is irrelevant that B did so in ignorance of the Rules.

 

Thanks good to know....

 

Just realize - I edited my post, I missed your specific reference to match play. That decision is only for stroke play (there is no equivalent to rule 3-4 in match play).

[davep043]

Anybody know how the rule works if you say you're going to mark your ball and playing partner says "no leave it" and then you say, "No, I will mark" and then he hits before you get there or worse yet he hits as you're doing it and you have moved your ball while his is in motion? Thinking specifically for a match play situation.

 

First of all, I think you mean fellow competitor, not partner - why wouldn't you want to help out your partner ;-)

 

But failure to comply with a rule is generally a DQ offense:

 

3-4/1

 

Competitor Not Given Opportunity to Lift Ball Assisting Fellow-Competitor

 

Q.In stroke play, A's ball lies near the hole in a position to assist B, whose ball lies off the putting green. A states his intention to lift his ball under Rule 22-1. B mistakenly believes that A does not have the right to lift his ball and plays before A has an opportunity to lift his ball. What is the ruling?

 

A.B is disqualified under Rule 3-4 as he intentionally denied A's right to lift his ball. It is irrelevant that B did so in ignorance of the Rules.

 

Thanks good to know....

 

Just realize - I edited my post, I missed your specific reference to match play. That decision is only for stroke play (there is no equivalent to rule 3-4 in match play).

I'd suggest that Decision 2/3 would apply for Match Play, in that the player denied his opponent's right to lift his ball. Its not the same exact situation, but there's still an intentional denial of a player's right.

2/3

 

Refusal to Comply with Rule in Match Play

 

Q.In a match, A requests B to lift B's ball that is on A's line of play. B refuses to do so. What is the ruling?

A.In equity (Rule 1-4), B loses the hole for failing to comply with A's request to lift his ball under Rule 22-2.