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In recent years, TM and several other brands has tended to go 'overboard' in the creation of 'visible technology'. The main reason for this is so they have something to build a marketing campaign around!

 

Whether such 'new visible tech' actually works or not is far less important than the marketing campaign surrounding that visible technology. The goal of the marketing campaign is to convince the buyer that it their latest 'gimmick' does work!

 

TM knows 'the consumer 'wants to believe' in some kind of 'techno-magic', and therefore is quite 'susceptible' to most any kind of campaign claim TM chooses to make.

 

However, the fact remains that COR/CT has been maxed out for quite some time now, so any claimed 'breakthrough' related to distance gains is a tougher sell these days. Still, TM does need to come up with 'something' that at least gives 'the appearance of a breakthrough' each and every year!

 

It was very interesting that last year TM actually emphasized accuracy over distance with 'Twist Face', and it's associated ad campaign, but TM still knows that what sells their drivers is a 'promise of more distance', whether or not TM can actually deliver it, so don't be surprised if they go back to that kind of campaign for the 2019 models.

 

The good news is that at least you don't hear TM claiming "15 more yards" with each new model now!. Despite the 'gullibility' of the consumer, TM finally understands they can't get away such ridiculous and extreme distance claims anymore!

 

It's easy to get carried away with the prospect of new toys, especially at this time of the year, but when shopping for a driver it is best to keep these specific goals in mind.

 

To maximize your (average) driving distance, find a clubhead that delivers the trajectory and spin rate you want, along with the degree of forgiveness you need. After that, focus on getting the best shaft fitting for your particular swing!

 

You measure the success of any driver purchase 2-ways:

 

1 - Did it increase your driving distance average?

 

2- Did it increase your percentage of fairways hit?

 

 

:golfer:

 

 

Nice post and for these reasons the M3 will more than likely stay in the fold as it certainly increased my distance without decreasing my accuracy....gonna be tough for the 2019 offerings to measure up so to speak....nice thing is I got back to my sub 45" length driver

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These, especially the M5 looks like a Wal-Mart special.

 

A HUUUUGE step back from the 2016 M2 (The best driver TM has released since the Superfast TP and arguably the best driver they've ever released... Competing with the R7 425 TP).

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I'm guessing they'll be the longer and straighter than the last models..

 

This is incredibly clever and criminally under-liked.

 

Also, anyone else think its weird that none of these pictures (that I've seen at least) have pictures of the fancy face screws?

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Stock choice on shaft

Atmos Black / Orange

Hzrdus Smoke

Tensei Orange (non pro)

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M4 Hybrid 19* / KBS Prototype
P-770 / Project X LZ 6.0
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Has anyone that has handled these seen what stock shafts are available? I’m getting back into golf and did a fitting at Club Champion recently. I just can’t see paying the crazy upcharge when I can get a comparable shaft straight from taylormade.

 

Expect the usual suspects. Project X, Aldila, etc. I’m thinking tensei would be there too.

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Atmos Black / Orange

Hzrdus Smoke

Tensei Orange (non pro)

 

Smoke is a great shaft. I wish they would’ve made it in a 80g option though to play in FWs

 

Is the atmos orange CB like the tensei orange?

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Shaft: Aldila Rogue 130 White 70 TX (at 45" and tipped 1")

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I'm guessing they'll be the longer and straighter than the last models..

 

This is incredibly clever and criminally under-liked.

 

Also, anyone else think its weird that none of these pictures (that I've seen at least) have pictures of the fancy face screws?

 

Here ya go!

 

 

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I'm guessing they'll be the longer and straighter than the last models..

 

This is incredibly clever and criminally under-liked.

 

Also, anyone else think its weird that none of these pictures (that I've seen at least) have pictures of the fancy face screws?

 

Here ya go!

 

 

 

Yeah, those ones. I’m talking about the “spy shots”. None of those seem to show the tech that TM is clearly going to push as the next big thing. Seems... odd.

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3 Titleist U500
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Vokey 52F, 56S, and 60T
Scotty Special Select Newport 2

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I'm guessing they'll be the longer and straighter than the last models..

 

This is incredibly clever and criminally under-liked.

 

Also, anyone else think its weird that none of these pictures (that I've seen at least) have pictures of the fancy face screws?

 

Here ya go!

 

 

 

Yeah, those ones. I’m talking about the “spy shots”. None of those seem to show the tech that TM is clearly going to push as the next big thing. Seems... odd.

 

Oh come on you know all of this is planned out lol

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They look ok, but havnt seen any gains in at least 3 prolly more like 5 yrs and $500 is just way too much to have something different

 

If any the mizuno looks best so far

 

prolly??? What word is that?

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In recent years, TM and several other brands has tended to go 'overboard' in the creation of 'visible technology'. The main reason for this is because it provides the company with something to build a marketing campaign around!

 

Whether such 'new visible tech' actually works or not is far less important than the marketing campaign surrounding that visible technology. The goal of the marketing campaign is to convince the buyer that it their latest 'gimmick' does work!

 

TM knows 'the consumer 'wants to believe' in some kind of 'techno-magic', and therefore is quite 'susceptible' to most any kind of campaign claim TM chooses to make.

 

However, the fact remains that COR/CT has been maxed out for quite some time now, so any claimed 'breakthrough' related to distance gains is a tougher sell these days. Still, TM does need to come up with 'something' that at least gives 'the appearance of a breakthrough' each and every year!

 

It was very interesting that last year TM actually emphasized accuracy over distance with the M3/M4 'Twist Face', and associated ad campaign, but TM still knows that what sells their drivers is the 'promise of more distance', whether or not the company can actually deliver it. Don't be surprised whena they go back to that kind of campaign theme for their new 2019 models.

 

The good news is that at least you don't hear TM claiming 15 more yards with each new model now!. Despite the 'gullibility' of the consumer, TM finally does understand they can no longer get away such ridiculous and extreme distance claims anymore!

 

It's easy to get carried away with the prospect of new toys, especially at this time of the year, but when shopping for a driver you need to have some specific goals in mind:

 

To maximize your (average) driving distance, find a clubhead that delivers the trajectory and spin rate you want, along with the degree of forgiveness that you need. After that, focus on getting the best shaft for your particular swing via a shaft fitting!

 

The measure of success for any driver purchase is based on these (2) questions"

 

1 - Did it increase your driving distance AVERAGE?

 

2- Did it increase your percentage of fairways hit?

 

 

:golfer:

totally get it and have fir long time....

 

Your a company who's limits have been strangleholded so what do you do.....you still have to sell product and the one element people want you cant give to them......so you have to improvise and turn it into another direction but fact remains unless you can thin that face out rest is smoke....

 

SLDR is still longest club I've ever hit but doesnt fit cuz of super low spin so rest of shots were junk for me.....

 

It has to be really hard for these guys to keep trying to come up with different things to sell public all the while increasing price

 

Cant remember last time I bought a new driver at full price.....probably RBZ

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They look ok, but havnt seen any gains in at least 3 prolly more like 5 yrs and $500 is just way too much to have something different

 

If any the mizuno looks best so far

 

prolly??? What word is that?

 

prol·ly /ˈprälē/

 

adverb INFORMAL

adverb: prolly

 

probably.

"you prolly know this already"

 

Origin

Probably

->

Prolly

1940s

 

1940s: representing an informal pronunciation of probably.

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Prolly = learned something new today!

 

So understand the potential stock offerings and tm’s standard tipping policy of 1 inch. I’m wondering if a stock hzrdus smoke 6.0 off the rack might just be good enough and play like a 6.5. Same for the tensei orange.

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Prolly = learned something new today!

 

So understand the potential stock offerings and tm’s standard tipping policy of 1 inch. I’m wondering if a stock hzrdus smoke 6.0 off the rack might just be good enough and play like a 6.5. Same for the tensei orange.

 

1" of tipping will not cause the shaft to play like the next flex up, closed to 1/3rd of a flex approximately. Even 2" would still not get there, so i'd go for a 6.5 if you're looking for X-flex. If you're in between you'll want to test both if you can. Their policy of 1" tipping seems to only be on upcharge shafts though based on what has been documented, very strange and not well understood.

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Good to know re: stock vs up charge . So the PO is an up charge option. And it is a rather light 70 gram option vs 60 grams ( I think there is only 6 grams between them on the TX). Is this why everyone I see playing a PO is in the 70 option? I’m a 110 ish SS so don’t want to overdo it if I order the PO from TM. Maybe the 60TX is a better bet? I am using a 125MSI TX right now.

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Callaway OG Apex UW 21.0 MCA MMT 80X

Mizuno JPX 923 HMP 4 Iron Nippon Modus Pro 120X

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I'm guessing they'll be the longer and straighter than the last models..

 

This is incredibly clever and criminally under-liked.

 

Also, anyone else think its weird that none of these pictures (that I've seen at least) have pictures of the fancy face screws?

 

Here ya go!

 

 

from what i've heard, the face was to hot. so they added the screws to fill the back of it with foam

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Here ya go!

 

 

from what i've heard, the face was to hot. so they added the screws to fill the back of it with foam

So I’d need to use acetone or something to dissolve the foam and flush it out to get that hot driver I want?

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Prolly last 2 swings then cave if you take the foam out.

 

 

 

Prolly want a cracker ?

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They look ok, but havnt seen any gains in at least 3 prolly more like 5 yrs and $500 is just way too much to have something different

 

If any the mizuno looks best so far

 

prolly??? What word is that?

 

prol·ly /ˈprälē/

 

adverb INFORMAL

adverb: prolly

 

probably.

"you prolly know this already"

 

Origin

Probably

->

Prolly

1940s

 

1940s: representing an informal pronunciation of probably.

 

Ahh... Thank you.

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They look ok, but havnt seen any gains in at least 3 prolly more like 5 yrs and $500 is just way too much to have something different

 

If any the mizuno looks best so far

 

Distance jumped for me in 2017 with the Callaway Fusion and Epic. I don’t know if I gained any distance but I certainly didn’t loss any and gained tighter dispersion with M4.

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Good to know re: stock vs up charge . So the PO is an up charge option. And it is a rather light 70 gram option vs 60 grams ( I think there is only 6 grams between them on the TX). Is this why everyone I see playing a PO is in the 70 option? I’m a 110 ish SS so don’t want to overdo it if I order the PO from TM. Maybe the 60TX is a better bet? I am using a 125MSI TX right now.

 

FWIW I swing 109-113 and play a 70TX pro orange. I wouldn't want a lighter one, as with the counterbalance this one already feels pretty light.

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Good to know re: stock vs up charge . So the PO is an up charge option. And it is a rather light 70 gram option vs 60 grams ( I think there is only 6 grams between them on the TX). Is this why everyone I see playing a PO is in the 70 option? I’m a 110 ish SS so don’t want to overdo it if I order the PO from TM. Maybe the 60TX is a better bet? I am using a 125MSI TX right now.

 

FWIW I swing 109-113 and play a 70TX pro orange. I wouldn't want a lighter one, as with the counterbalance this one already feels pretty light.

 

Off topic, but did you add any weight to the head to balance it out?

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Good to know re: stock vs up charge . So the PO is an up charge option. And it is a rather light 70 gram option vs 60 grams ( I think there is only 6 grams between them on the TX). Is this why everyone I see playing a PO is in the 70 option? I’m a 110 ish SS so don’t want to overdo it if I order the PO from TM. Maybe the 60TX is a better bet? I am using a 125MSI TX right now.

 

FWIW I swing 109-113 and play a 70TX pro orange. I wouldn't want a lighter one, as with the counterbalance this one already feels pretty light.

 

What have you played prior to the pro orange?

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