Reed Unhappy with Jordan and Jim in Interview

[Golfer4Life]

I can’t wait for the next chapter, The President’s Cup. Same cast of characters with juicer storylines.

[Sixcat]

I've never bought into Ryder Cup / President's Cup comparisons. The countries that make up the International President's Cup teams are far less engaged in the "team" process than the US. Most of those countries have no natural ties to one another. It's awkward and feels forced. The International team has won exactly once and tied once in President's Cup history.

 

I believe a compelling argument could be made that having a US President's Cup team hurts the US Ryder Cup team. Most US players don't like the team concept as it is. Forcing them to do it every year could lead to some complacency and lack of team chemistry. Given the lack of competitiveness of the President's Cup, it could foster a false sense of security as well. I don't know for sure but I think it's an interesting concept.

[Jack Pearsall]

Lots of mendacity in this thread.

1) Reed did not ruin the US RC team or its chances...the Euros kicked their asses in the last two days. Stomped them. Reed played better than any US player of the last day.

He was utterly terrible with Tiger. 85 sounds about right.

2) as a team, you cant be losing holes to mere pars. How many holes did that happen on? A lot.

3) this Ryder Cup was over b4 it started for the US because the personnel was not a good fit for the course or its setup. US team is a bunch of long bombers who can overcome wayward drives because of their distance and the nature of the tour rough, but not in Paris. Super narrow fairways, water on most holes and killer rough and shifting wind. Of US golfers, Actually thought Webb Simpson would do okay given the course, his game seemed most amenable to Paris Nationale. There ya go.

 

However, the whole throwing each other under the bus is...entertaining, no? More entertaining than their play was...

[the bishop]

Lots of mendacity in this thread.

1) Reed did not ruin the US RC team or its chances...the Euros kicked their asses in the last two days. Stomped them. Reed played better than any US player of the last day.

He was utterly terrible with Tiger. 85 sounds about right.

2) as a team, you cant be losing holes to mere pars. How many holes did that happen on? A lot.

3) this Ryder Cup was over b4 it started for the US because the personnel was not a good fit for the course or its setup. US team is a bunch of long bombers who can overcome wayward drives because of their distance and the nature of the tour rough, but not in Paris. Super narrow fairways, water on most holes and killer rough and shifting wind. Of US golfers, Actually thought Webb Simpson would do okay given the course, his game seemed most amenable to Paris Nationale. There ya go.

 

However, the whole throwing each other under the bus is...entertaining, no? More entertaining than their play was...

Alright Pearsall, first no more switching between first and third person in your posts like you've been doing lately. Yer killin' me! And while Reed played well in singles not sure I agree he played the best. Finau was in beast mode and Webb quietly had arguably the best RC of anyone on the American side from a consistency standpoint and also played great in singles.

[Choclab]

Undoubtedly if Captain Jim had paired Reed with Spieth, then Patrick wouldn't have hit all of those wayward tee shots nor drowned more golf balls than I did the last time I played Man O' War.

 

There is no doubt that the Reed-Spieth pairing was successful in the past. There is no guarantee that result would have been repeated in this competition, however, especially considering the things that have occurred between the two in the recent past.

Exactly. I can't believe anyone is siding with Reed on this.

 

Too bad we didn't have a strong captain to deal with this As the Ryder Cup Turns nonsense, but I guess if that had happened, the little daisies would have complained about their feelings getting hurt. Just ask Tom Watson.

[bluetees1999]

I've never bought into Ryder Cup / President's Cup comparisons. The countries that make up the International President's Cup teams are far less engaged in the "team" process than the US. Most of those countries have no natural ties to one another. It's awkward and feels forced. The International team has won exactly once and tied once in President's Cup history.

 

I believe a compelling argument could be made that having a US President's Cup team hurts the US Ryder Cup team. Most US players don't like the team concept as it is. Forcing them to do it every year could lead to some complacency and lack of team chemistry. Given the lack of competitiveness of the President's Cup, it could foster a false sense of security as well. I don't know for sure but I think it's an interesting concept.

Just asking. What makes you think this?

[Sixcat]

I've never bought into Ryder Cup / President's Cup comparisons. The countries that make up the International President's Cup teams are far less engaged in the "team" process than the US. Most of those countries have no natural ties to one another. It's awkward and feels forced. The International team has won exactly once and tied once in President's Cup history.

 

I believe a compelling argument could be made that having a US President's Cup team hurts the US Ryder Cup team. Most US players don't like the team concept as it is. Forcing them to do it every year could lead to some complacency and lack of team chemistry. Given the lack of competitiveness of the President's Cup, it could foster a false sense of security as well. I don't know for sure but I think it's an interesting concept.

Just asking. What makes you think this?

 

All I need to see are the post Ryder Cup interviews to come to the conclusion the Europeans are a much more cohesive team than the US. When asked about sealing the winning point for Europe, Francesco Molinari said "I was hoping Sergio was going to do it because he was going to be the European guy with the most points, which is an incredible achievement."

 

This whole thread (and several others) is centered around the US "team" pointing fingers.

[duffer987]

All I need to see are the post Ryder Cup interviews to come to the conclusion the Europeans are a much more cohesive team than the US. When asked about sealing the winning point for Europe, Francesco Molinari said "I was hoping Sergio was going to do it because he was going to be the European guy with the most points, which is an incredible achievement."

 

This whole thread (and several others) is centered around the US "team" pointing fingers.

Francesco be Francescoing :)

 

Yes, so because I was caught in the rocks I had to chew my arm off. Then once I wriggled free I was able to pry it free using my good arm.

That is when the mountain lion attacked, but fortunately I was able to use the detached arm to fight the mountain lion off, eventually kill it, and use it for food all that week.

Then I used the mountain lion whiskers and teeth to sew my detached arm back in place.

But really if it wasn't for the helicopter crew that found me after 10 days and taking me to the hospital I would be dead. They deserve all the credit.

I look forward to defending my Quicken Loans and Open Championship victories in 2019.

[Sixcat]

All I need to see are the post Ryder Cup interviews to come to the conclusion the Europeans are a much more cohesive team than the US. When asked about sealing the winning point for Europe, Francesco Molinari said "I was hoping Sergio was going to do it because he was going to be the European guy with the most points, which is an incredible achievement."

 

This whole thread (and several others) is centered around the US "team" pointing fingers.

Francesco be Francescoing :)

 

Yes, so because I was caught in the rocks I had to chew my arm off. Then once I wriggled free I was able to pry it free using my good arm.

That is when the mountain lion attacked, but fortunately I was able to use the detached arm to fight the mountain lion off, eventually kill it, and use it for food all that week.

Then I used the mountain lion whiskers and teeth to sew my detached arm back in place.

But really if it wasn't for the helicopter crew that found me after 10 days and taking me to the hospital I would be dead. They deserve all the credit.

I look forward to defending my Quicken Loans and Open Championship victories in 2019.

 

The Europeans genuinely care for one another. They play as much or more for the other guys on the team as they do themselves.

 

Your story is exactly what we hear from the US Ryder Cup members, a lot of "I's" "my's" and "me's."

[duffer987]

All I need to see are the post Ryder Cup interviews to come to the conclusion the Europeans are a much more cohesive team than the US. When asked about sealing the winning point for Europe, Francesco Molinari said "I was hoping Sergio was going to do it because he was going to be the European guy with the most points, which is an incredible achievement."

 

This whole thread (and several others) is centered around the US "team" pointing fingers.

Francesco be Francescoing :)

 

Yes, so because I was caught in the rocks I had to chew my arm off. Then once I wriggled free I was able to pry it free using my good arm.

That is when the mountain lion attacked, but fortunately I was able to use the detached arm to fight the mountain lion off, eventually kill it, and use it for food all that week.

Then I used the mountain lion whiskers and teeth to sew my detached arm back in place.

But really if it wasn't for the helicopter crew that found me after 10 days and taking me to the hospital I would be dead. They deserve all the credit.

I look forward to defending my Quicken Loans and Open Championship victories in 2019.

 

The Europeans genuinely care for one another. They play as much or more for the other guys on the team as they do themselves.

 

Your story is exactly what we hear from the US Ryder Cup members, a lot of "I's" "my's" and "me's."

Help me out here folks. It was pretty clear right?

Six you completely missed my joke.

Francesco is so chill and willing to share the accolades with his mates, that was the point of my satirical anecdote.

[Sixcat]

All I need to see are the post Ryder Cup interviews to come to the conclusion the Europeans are a much more cohesive team than the US. When asked about sealing the winning point for Europe, Francesco Molinari said "I was hoping Sergio was going to do it because he was going to be the European guy with the most points, which is an incredible achievement."

 

This whole thread (and several others) is centered around the US "team" pointing fingers.

Francesco be Francescoing :)

 

Yes, so because I was caught in the rocks I had to chew my arm off. Then once I wriggled free I was able to pry it free using my good arm.

That is when the mountain lion attacked, but fortunately I was able to use the detached arm to fight the mountain lion off, eventually kill it, and use it for food all that week.

Then I used the mountain lion whiskers and teeth to sew my detached arm back in place.

But really if it wasn't for the helicopter crew that found me after 10 days and taking me to the hospital I would be dead. They deserve all the credit.

I look forward to defending my Quicken Loans and Open Championship victories in 2019.

 

The Europeans genuinely care for one another. They play as much or more for the other guys on the team as they do themselves.

 

Your story is exactly what we hear from the US Ryder Cup members, a lot of "I's" "my's" and "me's."

Help me out here folks. It was pretty clear right?

Six you completely missed my joke.

Francesco is so chill and willing to share the accolades with his mates, that was the point of my satirical anecdote.

 

I got your joke. I used your own story (maybe not so well) to further exemplify the US mindset.

[Railroading13]

Reed played horribly... no excuses, he has nobody to blame but himself for those 7 water balls Saturday

[Texas1]

Reed basically shot his waist size on Friday / Saturday:)

[OrangeGravy]

Reed is the Hope Solo of golf

Didn't you mean Han Solo?

 

Pretty sure he meant Hope Solo.

 

Let's "Hope" not or there's gonna be a P Reed balloon knot shot on the interewebs anytime now.

[OrangeGravy]

Finally,

 

TW aint the source of the drama.

 

Lol,

 

TW gonna clean up on these punks next year ; )

 

Is that Maryanne?

[playa]

I have worked in a team environment my whole life, and I've come across plenty of a-hats that nobody wants to work with, but sometimes that's the hand you are dealt and as a professional you do your best to get the job done. Guys who want to be cliquey with the boss to get to pick and choose who they work with are generally insecure about their own abilities and need to be part of the in group to cover their inadequacies.

Not saying Spieth is that guy here cause I'm not privy to team selections, but if Spieth refused to play with Reed and forced Furyks hand, it says more about Spieth not being a team player than Reed.

[North Texas]

I have worked in a team environment my whole life, and I've come across plenty of a-hats that nobody wants to work with, but sometimes that's the hand you are dealt and as a professional you do your best to get the job done. Guys who want to be cliquey with the boss to get to pick and choose who they work with are generally insecure about their own abilities and need to be part of the in group to cover their inadequacies.

Not saying Spieth is that guy here cause I'm not privy to team selections, but if Spieth refused to play with Reed and forced Furyks hand, it says more about Spieth not being a team player than Reed.

 

There has been absolutely nothing reported that indicated that Spieth refused to play with Reed and forced Furyk's hand. And you probably already know that.

[StlEER]

I've never bought into Ryder Cup / President's Cup comparisons. The countries that make up the International President's Cup teams are far less engaged in the "team" process than the US. Most of those countries have no natural ties to one another. It's awkward and feels forced. The International team has won exactly once and tied once in President's Cup history.

 

I believe a compelling argument could be made that having a US President's Cup team hurts the US Ryder Cup team. Most US players don't like the team concept as it is. Forcing them to do it every year could lead to some complacency and lack of team chemistry. Given the lack of competitiveness of the President's Cup, it could foster a false sense of security as well. I don't know for sure but I think it's an interesting concept.

I’d like to see the US “B” team play the Prez Cup. Don’t make the Ryder Cup well you are now eligible for selection for the Prez.

 

Will never happen as it would be demeaning to the other squad especially when the US would win.

[00steven]

Reeds a ***** that’s all there is to it.

 

 

[Tim Schoch]

This is America in the media today, boys and girls. Everyone is a villain or they are a victim. It just isn’t a story until the trash hits the fan and someone is ruined. It is soap opera on steroids, imposing characterizations that are from freakin Jupiter. Sure, we are babies in how we are handling our embarrassing defeat, so plan better next time, prepare better, show up as a team, get over your celebrity and sink a putt! Being a team member does not mean someone else will carry your apathetic play. Sink your freakin putt! Who cares who your partner is, kick his a**, shame him into stepping up. No one will give you the Cup, earn it. Stop posturing and whining. And if you are sick or can’t play, sit the hell down. That is how a team works.

[duffer987]

I've never bought into Ryder Cup / President's Cup comparisons. The countries that make up the International President's Cup teams are far less engaged in the "team" process than the US. Most of those countries have no natural ties to one another. It's awkward and feels forced. The International team has won exactly once and tied once in President's Cup history.

 

I believe a compelling argument could be made that having a US President's Cup team hurts the US Ryder Cup team. Most US players don't like the team concept as it is. Forcing them to do it every year could lead to some complacency and lack of team chemistry. Given the lack of competitiveness of the President's Cup, it could foster a false sense of security as well. I don't know for sure but I think it's an interesting concept.

I'd like to see the US "B" team play the Prez Cup. Don't make the Ryder Cup well you are now eligible for selection for the Prez.

 

Will never happen as it would be demeaning to the other squad especially when the US would win.

They should absolutely do that. Don't a lot of basketball countries do that for that non-Olympic tournament?

[bladehunter]

Reeds a ***** that's all there is to it. Anyone who doesn't talk to their own parents isn't stable.

 

 

not to defend Reed on this,

 

But i havent talked to mine in a couple years... I can assure you your comment only lets me know you have good people as parents... There is another side to that coin .

[00steven]

Reeds a ***** that's all there is to it. Anyone who doesn't talk to their own parents isn't stable.

 

 

not to defend Reed on this,

 

But i havent talked to mine in a couple years... I can assure you your comment only lets me know you have good people as parents... There is another side to that coin .

 

Perhaps so and forgive my flippant approach. Reed does run me the wrong way however and I was even happy to see him win Augusta.

[bscinstnct]

Reeds a ***** that’s all there is to it.

 

Have you ever *really* talked to your parents?

 

[bladehunter]

Reeds a ***** that's all there is to it. Anyone who doesn't talk to their own parents isn't stable.

 

 

not to defend Reed on this,

 

But i havent talked to mine in a couple years... I can assure you your comment only lets me know you have good people as parents... There is another side to that coin .

 

Perhaps so and forgive my flippant approach. Reed does run me the wrong way however and I was even happy to see him win Augusta.

 

no worries buddy.. really is a sad fact , one i dont share often...Be thankful for what you have .. everyone doesnt have that.

[bladehunter]

Reeds a ***** that's all there is to it.

 

Have you ever *really* talked to your parents?

 

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Killer avatar pic Bud..... where do you keep finding those things !!

[8602081]

So much drama.. it's sad that everyone is blaming each other...

[playa]

I have worked in a team environment my whole life, and I've come across plenty of a-hats that nobody wants to work with, but sometimes that's the hand you are dealt and as a professional you do your best to get the job done. Guys who want to be cliquey with the boss to get to pick and choose who they work with are generally insecure about their own abilities and need to be part of the in group to cover their inadequacies.

Not saying Spieth is that guy here cause I'm not privy to team selections, but if Spieth refused to play with Reed and forced Furyks hand, it says more about Spieth not being a team player than Reed.

 

There has been absolutely nothing reported that indicated that Spieth refused to play with Reed and forced Furyk's hand. And you probably already know that.

I think my post pretty plainly states I did not know that, I which is why I worded it that way. Spieth seems like a decent guy and I hope it was purely Furyks decision.

[YMark]

Reeds a ***** that's all there is to it. Anyone who doesn't talk to their own parents isn't stable.

 

 

not to defend Reed on this,

 

But i havent talked to mine in a couple years... I can assure you your comment only lets me know you have good people as parents... There is another side to that coin .

 

Perhaps so and forgive my flippant approach. Reed does run me the wrong way however and I was even happy to see him win Augusta.

 

no worries buddy.. really is a sad fact , one i dont share often...Be thankful for what you have .. everyone doesnt have that.

 

Sometimes it's the kids, sometimes it's the parents. Either way it is a sad and unfortunate situation that I hope all families can resolve.

[Ghost of Snead]

Lots of mendacity in this thread.

1) Reed did not ruin the US RC team or its chances...the Euros kicked their asses in the last two days. Stomped them. Reed played better than any US player of the last day.

 

Uh no ... see Finau over Fleetwood and Webb Simpson who took out Justin Rose.