Do you think Tiger will win another Major?

[mosesgolf]

He still has one maybe two left in the tank heck why not 3.

[Titleist_PT23]

No, but it's 51/49 for me. There are plenty of players with his current profile that win 0 or win 2+ in a five year span. At this stage though he needs a lot to go right for 4 rounds.

 

Tiger was right there at the Open and PGA last year. Similar to Phil at the 2014 PGA and 2016 Open. But any screw-ups and/or another guy is hot and their games just aren't good enough anymore to win it like that.

 

Hope for Tiger and Phil in the final pairing at Pebble Beach this summer. #15 or the Career Slam - golf courses would be empty on Sunday.

[Shilgy]

> @youdamantiger said:

> This is not the most pressing question in my mind. Instead it's how many more years he can go winless in the majors before fans come to the realization that it's not going to happen?

>

> He's 43. He's had back fusion. His putting has deteriorated to the point in which he's now just a slightly below average Tour pro on the greens. By his own admission he can't practice or play as much as he'd like. Only 4% of the major winners the past 60 years have been age 43 or older. Should I go on?

>

> Let's look at the venues this year. Because I think even a die-hard Tiger pom pom waver would admit that, with each passing year, his chances diminish. At Augusta he hasn't won in 14 years. At Bethpage he hasn't won in 17 years. As far we know he's never played Portrush. And at Pebble he hasn't won in 19 years. Come on folks, let's get real about his chances.

 

Seems odd to use the logic in your post. So only Glover can win at Bethpage? Other than Glover no one besides Tiger has won a major there at all. Royal Portrush? Many majors are contested at tracks the players have not played before. Pebble he hasn't won in a long time but who has shown they are better there? O'Meara? :)

Recent history that you're using says Spieth at Augusta. That's your pick this week?

 

I agree his chances are going to get slimmer with each passing year. Father Time hits every athlete. But at the moment there are only a few with a better chance.

Are you willing to be the house one of them wins each major?

[youdamantiger]

> @Shilgy said:

> > @youdamantiger said:

> > This is not the most pressing question in my mind. Instead it's how many more years he can go winless in the majors before fans come to the realization that it's not going to happen?

> >

> > He's 43. He's had back fusion. His putting has deteriorated to the point in which he's now just a slightly below average Tour pro on the greens. By his own admission he can't practice or play as much as he'd like. Only 4% of the major winners the past 60 years have been age 43 or older. Should I go on?

> >

> > Let's look at the venues this year. Because I think even a die-hard Tiger pom pom waver would admit that, with each passing year, his chances diminish. At Augusta he hasn't won in 14 years. At Bethpage he hasn't won in 17 years. As far we know he's never played Portrush. And at Pebble he hasn't won in 19 years. Come on folks, let's get real about his chances.

>

> Seems odd to use the logic in your post. So only Glover can win at Bethpage? Other than Glover no one besides Tiger has won a major there at all. Royal Portrush? Many majors are contested at tracks the players have not played before. Pebble he hasn't won in a long time but who has shown they are better there? O'Meara? :)

> Recent history that you're using says Spieth at Augusta. That's your pick this week?

>

> I agree his chances are going to get slimmer with each passing year. Father Time hits every athlete. But at the moment there are only a few with a better chance.

> Are you willing to be the house one of them wins each major?

 

My point in mentioning his last victories at those courses is simply to refute those who argue that he "owns" Augusta and Pebble. Or those who argue that because he's won at a specific course once then he's a lock to do it again.

[mosesgolf]

Tiger is winning a major this year.

[freeze16172002]

> @"deadsolid...shank" said:

> > @freeze16172002 said:

> > he is ranked 12th in the world and could limp to a top 10 around augusta.

>

> Unfortunately there is a big difference between a top 10 and a win. One off day, which he seems to have one of each round lately.

>

> But it’s certainly well within the realm of possibility and it wouldn’t shock me if he did win one.

 

My point was even without his A game he could still get a top 10....If he shows up in form he could win. He hits it far enough, his iron play is good, his putter is iffy.....

[3jacker]

It's golf. Not basketball or football.

Older guys have been winning majors and tournaments for nigh on a century now.

[Ignatius Reilly]

I already voted "yes", but it was a close call.

 

For fun, I thought it would be interesting to look at Jack's record at age 43 and beyond.

 

Everyone remembers the Masters win at age 46. How old was he when he won his previous majors?

 

US Open: 40 years old

PGA: 40 years old

The Open Championship: 38 years old.

 

A reminder - Tiger is 43 now, and was 32 when he won his last major.

 

I guess I'm not changing my vote, but if there was money on it....?

[3jacker]

A big consideration is that until very recently, guys were just done in their 40s. Jack really wasn't that interested, he's said as much. He'd been there, done that, and he wasn't trying to break any records, he owned most. It didn't consume him. He had other interests that made more money off the course.

[new2g0lf]

I'd love to see Tiger win another Major and I'd have voted yes to this same question prior to last season but having watched him for the last 18 months I don't think he can. I don't think he's currently as good as he was and I think his competition is better than when he was at his best. In order to win he has to have four great rounds and I don't know if he has that in him.

[deadsolid...shank]

> @freeze16172002 said:

> > @"deadsolid...shank" said:

> > > @freeze16172002 said:

> > > he is ranked 12th in the world and could limp to a top 10 around augusta.

> >

> > Unfortunately there is a big difference between a top 10 and a win. One off day, which he seems to have one of each round lately.

> >

> > But it’s certainly well within the realm of possibility and it wouldn’t shock me if he did win one.

>

> My point was even without his A game he could still get a top 10....If he shows up in form he could win. He hits it far enough, his iron play is good, his putter is iffy.....

 

I agree with that. With how he’s playing right now, you almost assume a top 10 at the minimum just because of his knowledge of the place. I guess my point was there is so much distance between a top 10 and the top spot. He used to be able to win this with his B game (which was still better than almost everyone else’s A game). Now his A game is just one among many. I think he’ll have to have his A+ game to win, and I’m just not sure he can sustain that one for four days.

But like I said earlier, while I don’t think he will, it certainly wouldn’t shock me if he did.

 

[bladehunter]

> @3jacker said:

> A big consideration is that until very recently, guys were just done in their 40s. Jack really wasn't that interested, he's said as much. He'd been there, done that, and he wasn't trying to break any records, he owned most. It didn't consume him. He had other interests that made more money off the course.

 

Agree. Players can play much longer now due to equipment and fitness level. Today’s 43 is at least equal to 38 ish in 1986. The driver and new ball alone ads 5-6 years of competitive distance to every player Alive’s game.

[deadsolid...shank]

> @bladehunter said:

> > @3jacker said:

> > A big consideration is that until very recently, guys were just done in their 40s. Jack really wasn't that interested, he's said as much. He'd been there, done that, and he wasn't trying to break any records, he owned most. It didn't consume him. He had other interests that made more money off the course.

>

> Agree. Players can play much longer now due to equipment and fitness level. Today’s 43 is at least equal to 38 ish in 1986. The driver and new ball alone ads 5-6 years of competitive distance to every player Alive’s game.

 

If the player is not older than his years though. I think, despite how he looks and is swinging right now, most people would agree that Tiger is a relatively “old”43.

 

 

[mosesgolf]

Yada yada he is too old, he can't putt like Tiger of old. Tiger is one guy you don't count out. Who would've thought Tiger has 180mph ball speeds after his fusion surgery. Heck he couldn't even walk. Who would've thought he'd win last year.

 

[Shilgy]

> @youdamantiger said:

> > @Shilgy said:

> > > @youdamantiger said:

> > > This is not the most pressing question in my mind. Instead it's how many more years he can go winless in the majors before fans come to the realization that it's not going to happen?

> > >

> > > He's 43. He's had back fusion. His putting has deteriorated to the point in which he's now just a slightly below average Tour pro on the greens. By his own admission he can't practice or play as much as he'd like. Only 4% of the major winners the past 60 years have been age 43 or older. Should I go on?

> > >

> > > Let's look at the venues this year. Because I think even a die-hard Tiger pom pom waver would admit that, with each passing year, his chances diminish. At Augusta he hasn't won in 14 years. At Bethpage he hasn't won in 17 years. As far we know he's never played Portrush. And at Pebble he hasn't won in 19 years. Come on folks, let's get real about his chances.

> >

> > Seems odd to use the logic in your post. So only Glover can win at Bethpage? Other than Glover no one besides Tiger has won a major there at all. Royal Portrush? Many majors are contested at tracks the players have not played before. Pebble he hasn't won in a long time but who has shown they are better there? O'Meara? :)

> > Recent history that you're using says Spieth at Augusta. That's your pick this week?

> >

> > I agree his chances are going to get slimmer with each passing year. Father Time hits every athlete. But at the moment there are only a few with a better chance.

> > Are you willing to be the house one of them wins each major?

>

> My point in mentioning his last victories at those courses is simply to refute those who argue that he "owns" Augusta and Pebble. Or those who argue that because he's won at a specific course once then he's a lock to do it again.

 

Great explanation and I totally agree. I have not seen those posts this go around but certainly have in the past.

[Cool Runnings]

I share similar thoughts to a few here in that while being a big Tiger fan, I don’t think he can win another major. But if it did happen it wouldn’t be a complete shock. If it did ever happen it would be a lightening in a bottle event and would be on a relatively short course that he knows very well, where hitting lots of drivers isn’t a big requirement. The underlying key reason is because fields are just too deep and talented today and in majors all the very best players are peaking and focused for those 4 events.

[bscinstnct]

 

 

 

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[BlackDiamondPar5]

Tiger's only chance of winning another major is if he has the lowest score at the end of four days. :)

[bscinstnct]

> @BlackDiamondPar5 said:

> Tiger's only chance of winning another major is if he has the lowest score at the end of four days. :)

 

And even then....

[c7015]

> @BlackDiamondPar5 said:

> Tiger's only chance of winning another major is if he has the lowest score at the end of four days. :)

 

You don't think it's possible for him to win in a playoff?

 

j/k being a pedantic *****

[IVM]

I do not think that he can put 4 days together.

[nosedive32]

Tiger is going to win at least one of the 4 majors this year. Past that who knows. How you can possibly have watched what he did in the last two majors, particularly Sunday at the PGA and think he doesn't have a great shot to win another one is beyond me.

[nosedive32]

> @agolf1 said:

> No, but it's 51/49 for me. There are plenty of players with his current profile that win 0 or win 2+ in a five year span. At this stage though he needs a lot to go right for 4 rounds.

>

> Tiger was right there at the Open and PGA last year. Similar to Phil at the 2014 PGA and 2016 Open. But any ****-ups and/or another guy is hot and their games just aren't good enough anymore to win it like that.

>

> Hope for Tiger and Phil in the final pairing at Pebble Beach this summer. #15 or the Career Slam - golf courses would be empty on Sunday.

 

Phil at the 2016 Open isn't really a comparison to any other major that's occured ever. Henrik and Phil were as close to Tiger at Pebble Beach in 2000 good compared to the field as anybody has ever been and they both did it in the same week.

That's way more of an exception than any rule. Phil was 11 clear of JB Holmes at Troon.

 

 

[lumberman2462]

His best shot at another Major is The Open Championship. I only say that because that is the one Major that old guys tend to contend the most frequently.

[youdamantiger]

> @3jacker said:

> It's golf. Not basketball or football.

> Older guys have been winning majors and tournaments for nigh on a century now.

 

In the modern era (1960-present) only 4% of majors have been won by pros who are Tiger's age or older. Does it happen? Yes. Does it happen frequently enough to be more than a statistical blip on the radar? No.

[3jacker]

So it happens.

Tiger isn't average. I think he's a statistical blip.

[dropkicked]

> @3jacker said:

> So it happens.

> Tiger isn't average. I think he's a statistical blip.

 

Agreed. Tiger, is an outlier here.. Win he will!

[dlygrisse]

I voted no. It's been 11 years since he won one. Could he? sure. Will he? I'm very skeptical at this point. Would I be surprised? No. He could have a "Jack 1986" moment. But I think the odds are against him, so I voted no because there is no way I would put money on it.

[tgoodspe1991]

> @dlygrisse said:

> I voted no. It's been 11 years since he won one. Could he? sure. Will he? I'm very skeptical at this point. Would I be surprised? No. He could have a "Jack 1986" moment. But I think the odds are against him.

 

Wow... it's insane and sad to think it's already been **11 years** since he's won his last Major championship...

[dlygrisse]

> @Christosterone said:

> His iron play is still so good....absurdly good...

> He wins more than one imho

>

> -Chris

 

His iron play is the only reason he might win one, iron play is the key to winning at Augusta, pin high with uphill putts makes you seem like a great putter there.