Ping's new G410 LST driver

[cardoustie]

> @"3 Jack Par" said:

> > @cardoustie said:

> > > @"3 Jack Par" said:

> > > I'm coming from an Epic Flash SubZero, so maybe my hearing was ruined by that, but I find the sound (and feel) of the G410 LST to be very pleasant. It's much quieter than Ping drivers in years past (G400 excluded). I'm surprised to hear any complaints about the sound.

> > > I love mine so much after two rounds (including one tournament), I'm planning to give the G410 LST fairway a try.

> > I hit the 410 lst three wood off of grass on the weekend. Great stick

> > Funny how one club leads to line up extensions - same thing happened to me .. g400LST, led to the 3w and then the 5w

> >

> >

>

> I went into the last hole of my tournament +1, and the last hole was a par 5 with water starting about 285 from the tee, which narrows the fairway down significantly at that point, so I hit 3w for safety...and promptly wiped one out of bounds (terrible shot, no excuse for it). The only other tee shot I hit that got me into trouble on the day was also with the 3w (though that was a good swing, but just missed my target by a little bit), so it's obviously the club's fault. In all seriousness, I've come back to the realization that in my long game, I can really benefit more from a little extra forgiveness more than being able to hit it farther. Ping really seems to deliver that without much compromise when it comes to distance.

 

you could also learn a bunt driver for lots of forgiveness vs a 3w off the tee

I also suggest the 17.5 g series heads turned down to 16.5* .. don't need a 3w. great off the deck as well

[3_Jack_Par]

> @cardoustie said:

> you could also learn a bunt driver for lots of forgiveness vs a 3w off the tee

> I also suggest the 17.5 g series heads turned down to 16.5* .. don't need a 3w. great off the deck as well

 

I have played that shot in the past, but it's not one that I think to use very often, and looking back at it later in the day, I was kicking myself for not thinking of trying that. It's the perfect type of hole for that shot -- very wide up until the water, and it would be hard to screw it up that badly with the bunt driver. Thinking clearly under pressure isn't my strong suit. :(

 

[cardoustie]

I only mention it because they are now proving how much better pretty much everyone is off the tee with a driver vs a 3w

You hit driver a load more and it's double the size.

[mikedit]

Was told by Golftown here in Canada today, was there when they were on the phone with Ping, that my driver will not be here until 12 July!!! Did someone fall asleep at Ping?? Original date was May 30, at least that was what I was told when I placed the order.

[dpb5031]

> @cardoustie said:

> > @"3 Jack Par" said:

> > > @cardoustie said:

> > > > @"3 Jack Par" said:

> > > > I'm coming from an Epic Flash SubZero, so maybe my hearing was ruined by that, but I find the sound (and feel) of the G410 LST to be very pleasant. It's much quieter than Ping drivers in years past (G400 excluded). I'm surprised to hear any complaints about the sound.

> > > > I love mine so much after two rounds (including one tournament), I'm planning to give the G410 LST fairway a try.

> > > I hit the 410 lst three wood off of grass on the weekend. Great stick

> > > Funny how one club leads to line up extensions - same thing happened to me .. g400LST, led to the 3w and then the 5w

> > >

> > >

> >

> > I went into the last hole of my tournament +1, and the last hole was a par 5 with water starting about 285 from the tee, which narrows the fairway down significantly at that point, so I hit 3w for safety...and promptly wiped one out of bounds (terrible shot, no excuse for it). The only other tee shot I hit that got me into trouble on the day was also with the 3w (though that was a good swing, but just missed my target by a little bit), so it's obviously the club's fault. In all seriousness, I've come back to the realization that in my long game, I can really benefit more from a little extra forgiveness more than being able to hit it farther. Ping really seems to deliver that without much compromise when it comes to distance.

>

> you could also learn a bunt driver for lots of forgiveness vs a 3w off the tee

> I also suggest the 17.5 g series heads turned down to 16.5* .. don't need a 3w. great off the deck as well

 

I do this a lot on "thread the needle" type holes. Grip it way down, arms super-connected, 3/4 type swing produces low straight bullets. I'll still use 3 wood or less if there's a bunker or other I'm trying to avoid long.

[Ryan5508]

Just dropped off an atmos black and my kk xd to get retipped. Looking forward to getting a comparison going with the new head soon.

[tboh]

> > I do this a lot on "thread the needle" type holes. Grip it way down, arms super-connected, 3/4 type swing produces low straight bullets. I'll still use 3 wood or less if there's a bunker or other I'm trying to avoid long.

Love love love this shot ... "Lasers"

 

[cz13X4]

> @mikedit said:

> Was told by Golftown here in Canada today, was there when they were on the phone with Ping, that my driver will not be here until 12 July!!! Did someone fall asleep at Ping?? Original date was May 30, at least that was what I was told when I placed the order.

 

Yeah someone did. They didn't push the send button for the order of lst heads. I'm in the same boat. Ordered may 7. Someone at ping made a mistake.... Doesn't seem to be a concern for ping.

[BearQ]

> @cardoustie said:

> > @"3 Jack Par" said:

> > > @cardoustie said:

> > > > @"3 Jack Par" said:

> > > > I'm coming from an Epic Flash SubZero, so maybe my hearing was ruined by that, but I find the sound (and feel) of the G410 LST to be very pleasant. It's much quieter than Ping drivers in years past (G400 excluded). I'm surprised to hear any complaints about the sound.

> > > > I love mine so much after two rounds (including one tournament), I'm planning to give the G410 LST fairway a try.

> > > I hit the 410 lst three wood off of grass on the weekend. Great stick

> > > Funny how one club leads to line up extensions - same thing happened to me .. g400LST, led to the 3w and then the 5w

> > >

> > >

> >

> > I went into the last hole of my tournament +1, and the last hole was a par 5 with water starting about 285 from the tee, which narrows the fairway down significantly at that point, so I hit 3w for safety...and promptly wiped one out of bounds (terrible shot, no excuse for it). The only other tee shot I hit that got me into trouble on the day was also with the 3w (though that was a good swing, but just missed my target by a little bit), so it's obviously the club's fault. In all seriousness, I've come back to the realization that in my long game, I can really benefit more from a little extra forgiveness more than being able to hit it farther. Ping really seems to deliver that without much compromise when it comes to distance.

>

> you could also learn a bunt driver for lots of forgiveness vs a 3w off the tee

> I also suggest the 17.5 g series heads turned down to 16.5* .. don't need a 3w. great off the deck as well

 

3/4 driver was my 3-wood for most of my earlier tournament career

 

Way better option if you can dial it in. But essentially a band-aid solution until you put in the reps and prayer lol to figure out 3w

 

 

[JMH1220]

Can someone explain to me why I can’t copy and paste a pic in the comment field? Alternative?

[PorkChopExpress]

G410 LST is the best yet.

Less pointy toe like the former g400 lst, I've gone through 7 of these heads in a love hate relationship & trying every new driver out there thinking it's better than the g400 lst.

The new G410 LST shape is better and sounds great, even without hotmelt. My TD might be a bit longer on some hits but I have no clue where the TD is going. The G410 LST was a simple drop in and go (g400 lst will be up on BST soon)

Testing a PO 60tx and Diamana DF 60TX

[BearQ]

> @desaille said:

> G410 LST is the best yet.

> Less pointy toe like the former g400 lst, I've gone through 7 of these heads in a love hate relationship & trying every new driver out there thinking it's better than the g400 lst.

> The new G410 LST shape is better and sounds great, even without hotmelt. My TD might be a bit longer on some hits but I have no clue where the TD is going. The G410 LST was a simple drop in and go (g400 lst will be up on BST soon)

> Testing a PO 60tx and Diamana DF 60TX

 

Awesome write up. Two beast shafts there too

 

You got it figured out bud

 

 

[Pleasedwith3putts]

> @kcowgolf said:

> Just received mine yesterday and was able to play 18. Performance was similar to my 400 LST but a touch less spin (small yardage increases) Good comparison as I had played the same course the day before with my 400 LST. The only bothersome thing is the sound, the 400 sounded a lot better IMO, back to a loud "ping: sound with the new one. Otherwise great stick and I like the flat setting.

Interesting feedback as I didn't like the sound of the 400 LST and found the feel harsh. Im using a Flash SZ now which doesn't feel or sound great to me either so i had high hopes the 410 LST would feel a little less harsh and also sound a bit more like the regular G400.

 

[3_Jack_Par]

> @Pleasedwith3putts said:

> > @kcowgolf said:

> > Just received mine yesterday and was able to play 18. Performance was similar to my 400 LST but a touch less spin (small yardage increases) Good comparison as I had played the same course the day before with my 400 LST. The only bothersome thing is the sound, the 400 sounded a lot better IMO, back to a loud "ping: sound with the new one. Otherwise great stick and I like the flat setting.

> Interesting feedback as I didn't like the sound of the 400 LST and found the feel harsh. Im using a Flash SZ now which doesn't feel or sound great to me either so i had high hopes the 410 LST would feel a little less harsh and also sound a bit more like the regular G400.

>

 

Having just come from the Flash SZ, my opinion is that both the sound and feel of the 410 LST are far more pleasant.

[asumnerdawg]

Driver was supposed to ship today. Sadly, here’s update from DD’s.

 

[gambit]

> @desaille said:

> G410 LST is the best yet.

> Less pointy toe like the former g400 lst, I've gone through 7 of these heads in a love hate relationship & trying every new driver out there thinking it's better than the g400 lst.

> The new G410 LST shape is better and sounds great, even without hotmelt. My TD might be a bit longer on some hits but I have no clue where the TD is going. The G410 LST was a simple drop in and go (g400 lst will be up on BST soon)

> Testing a PO 60tx and Diamana DF 60TX

 

Can you let us know how those two shafts compared in that head? I have the PO in the G400 LST, but want to try the DF too.

[G-Bone]

> @"3 Jack Par" said:

> I'm coming from an Epic Flash SubZero, so maybe my hearing was ruined by that, but I find the sound (and feel) of the G410 LST to be very pleasant. It's much quieter than Ping drivers in years past (G400 excluded). I'm surprised to hear any complaints about the sound.

> I love mine so much after two rounds (including one tournament), I'm planning to give the G410 LST fairway a try.

 

LST fairway is a beast for those with club head speed like yours... bring your check book!

[dukediv2011]

> @asumnerdawg said:

> Driver was supposed to ship today. Sadly, here’s update from DD’s.

>

 

Yeah, I just cancelled my order.

 

 

[halfsumo]

PING has bungled this whole LST release from the start. I also read reports that toe screws in the blueprint irons are rattling. They need to tighten things up (literally).

[Frid_the_kid]

@halfsumo

Agreed on the LST release. Not their finest hour. A bit frustrating for everyone involved.

I don’t think the blueprints are having problems. One random guy said it in the blueprint forum, but mine have been perfect and two people I know have sets that have been perfect. I think he was trolling (unheard of on WRX I know!).

 

 

[davo32683]

Sounds eerily similar to their g400 release too

[Deuce78]

Hmmm. well my 410 LST (and blueprints) should arrive by the weekend, will have a DF 70TX and T1100 ready to rock n roll in it.

[J13]

> @Deuce78 said:

> Hmmm. well my 410 LST (and blueprints) should arrive by the weekend, will have a DF 70TX and T1100 ready to rock n roll in it.

 

I called UPS and intercepted your package so i could add the LST to my on course testing. It's for the good of the board ;-)

[BlkNGld]

I think history tells us LST means Launch STalled.

[dpb5031]

My 410 LST arrived yesterday. Haven't hit it yet, but it looks perfect. Playing tomorrow morning...

[DLSGOLF]

Ordered mine on May 19...now being told it will be mid July at the earliest. What a joke. Going to cancel the order.

[jcg132]

What performance differences are folks seeing versus the 410+?

[serveitup911]

> @jcg132 said:

> What performance differences are folks seeing versus the 410+?

 

My 10.5 degree LST demo spun 300 rpms less than the 9 degree 410+ In the same shaft. Similar launch. Averaging 5 shots each.

 

 

[Deuce78]

> @J13 said:

> > @Deuce78 said:

> > Hmmm. well my 410 LST (and blueprints) should arrive by the weekend, will have a DF 70TX and T1100 ready to rock n roll in it.

>

> I called UPS and intercepted your package so i could add the LST to my on course testing. It's for the good of the board ;-)

 

I'm in the DMV...

[Oldboy]

Wasn’t trolling. Been here for a minute. I’ve got 10x as many posts as you. Check yourself

 

Firsthand information from my buddy whose been waiting for the blueprints to release for months. He sent the irons back to PING. Have a nice day