I was embarrassed to be at Bethpage...

[LeoLeo99]

Other than the 18th tee, didn't hear any hooligans out on the course. They made Willett laugh so much serenading him with Danny Boy on the 18th tee that he threw them a ball. All good fun.

 

Phil gave my wife a high 5 and Tony Finau autographed some stuff for wife and me.

 

Almost no mud on course. Perfect weather.

 

Very organized getting people to/ from the course and in the huge merchandise tent.

 

If you go, you'll do some walking.

[NoodleSalad]

> @BlackDiamondPar5 said:

> > @NoodleSalad said:

> > > @BlackDiamondPar5 said:

> > > > @NoodleSalad said:

> > > > > @Malvern said:

> > > > > > @NoodleSalad said:

> > > > > > > @MattyO1984 said:

> > > > > > > > @NoodleSalad said:

> > > > > > > > > @bladehunter said:

> > > > > > > > > > @NoodleSalad said:

> > > > > > > > > > > @bladehunter said:

> > > > > > > > > > > > @NoodleSalad said:

> > > > > > > > > > > > Well the Horschel incident did not take place in NY, rather in another place 1000 miles away, so what that has to do with this I don't know. And I noticed that English golfer Eddie Pepperell actually tweeted that the fan should have been kneed to the face, which seems a lot more egregious than a rude comment. But I guess this is where we're at. Promoting violence is okay in response to a dumb comment.

> > > > > > > > > > > If more knees hit faces. A lot less rude comments would fly for no reason. Now it may take 30 years to have it take a societal hold. But it took that long for it to become “ normal “ as well.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Exactly! More GBH is necessary to get the kind of society you want.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > GBH?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > It’s not about more violence. It’s about the idea that the things that are now normal to put up with now are not ok. Would actually be less violence if there weren’t laws protecting idiots who need to be put in line. Rudeness used to be a social crime that was handled quickly by society. Now it’s illegal to do so.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Yeah, and there's a process involved for removing unruly fans. It does not involve a knee to the face and a trip to the ER. I do find it quite interesting how that suggestion came from an Englishman who wasn't even in New Orleans and had nothing to do with the event. And then Horschel's Twitter feed was flooded with more Brits telling him "good job Billy, let's assault the Yank fans." There seems to be an obvious agenda here.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The agenda should have been to help you understand sarcasm...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > And naturally you know what was in Pepperell's head...

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > If you read some of Eddie's blogs/tweets, he specialises in "taking the ****", I'd be 99% certain that's what he was doing.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > Yeah, I'll take a pass on reading any more of this cretin's scribblings, but thanks. I'm glad he's on a plane back to Europe or Jupiter FL or wherever.

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > Wow, why the negativity towards Eddie? What things specifically has he said or done to elicit such feelings? Just the knee comment?

> > >

> > > As for knee to the face comment I'm guessing it's reflective of the frustration due to out of control, rude crowds that the tour seems disinterested in keeping in check.

> > >

> > Yeah, it's "just the knee comment." But you've also made it clear you believe such a punishment is fully justified, so here you come running to GBH Eddie's defense...

>

> People need to learn there are unpleasant consequences for being purposely obnoxious and disrespectful to others or they will keep getting worse and worse as we see here. Too many parents did a poor job at teaching respectful behavior and hence little johnny thinks the world revolves around him. As for an actual knee perhaps not, but being thrown out with no refund, yes. If resisting security for removal then they deserve to be aggressively manhandled and feel some pain and embarrassment. And yes you sound exactly like a member that was banned from WRX, a guy from Chicago that thought he was hot stuff with a three letter word name that was H... S... S.

 

So now you've gone from "he deserves a knee to the face" to "perhaps not' so maybe we're making progress. I have no idea who this Chicagoan was but if he sounds like me then he must've been quite brilliant. I'll leave you with this tweet, from a European no less:

 

 

[LeoLeo99]

> @bscinstnct said:

>

> > @LeoLeo99 said:

> > I'm on the lirr out to farmingdale. Train is full. Lots of pre gaming on board. Going to be a great day!

>

> Where are ya? Buy one of those phone chargers they sell. 35 bucks but worth it ; )

>

>

 

I didn't see that. Sounds like a good thing.

[ZAP]

Maybe it's because I am getting older but the world has kind of turned into one giant stupidity contest. Seems like the stupider you act the more attention you get.

[bladehunter]

Adam Scott was heckled pretty hard today. And not just the guys who followed him calling him tiger for some unknown reason.

 

I also heard several idiots yelling after every DJ chip or putt. Like a big Yeaahhh! Randomly after a Chip or bunker shot. Wasn’t just idiots on 18. Unless cbs is piping in idiot voices.

[LeoLeo99]

> @bladehunter said:

> Adam Scott was heckled pretty hard today. And not just the guys who followed him calling him tiger for some unknown reason.

>

> I also heard several idiots yelling after every DJ chip or putt. Like a big Yeaahhh! Randomly after a Chip or bunker shot. Wasn’t just idiots on 18. Unless cbs is piping in idiot voices.

 

Maybe I'm desensitized. Everyone was quiet during swings and I didn't hear a single bababooey.

[Neurotica]

It’s hard to take watching on TV couldn’t imagine how it must be in person.

[alpineto]

I was out at the black today and I agree with the op that the behavior of a few loud mouths is not acceptable

I noticed a lot of alcohol being consumed , as I said it's a small bunch who had way to much to drink .

[PZero]

First major in a long time that I haven't watched more than 10 minutes of.

[bladehunter]

> @PZero said:

> First major in a long time that I haven't watched more than 10 minutes of.

 

Yep. Tried to get a group together to play tomorrow. Half on vacation , the others have commitments ranging from wife’s birthday to “ my back hurts “. Nobody said “ I’m staying home to watch the pga”. Looks like it will be me and little man for 5 o’clock 9 .

[LeoLeo99]

> @bladehunter said:

> > @PZero said:

> > First major in a long time that I haven't watched more than 10 minutes of.

>

> Yep. Tried to get a group together to play tomorrow. Half on vacation , the others have commitments ranging from wife’s birthday to “ my back hurts “. Nobody said “ I’m staying home to watch the pga”. Looks like it will be me and little man for 5 o’clock 9 .

 

That's what happens when Tiger is not in contention.

 

 

[Edward_Majorwin]

> @bladehunter said:

> Adam Scott was heckled pretty hard today. And not just the guys who followed him calling him tiger for some unknown reason.

>

> I also heard several idiots yelling after every DJ chip or putt. Like a big Yeaahhh! Randomly after a Chip or bunker shot. Wasn’t just idiots on 18. Unless cbs is piping in idiot voices.

 

I was watching and hearing blasts of bros shouting and trying to one up each other in poor behaviour. I thought "are these guys just purposely standing near the microphone clowning or are they being that fricking loud for real?" - it kinda shocked me that none of the players looked off to gesture a WTF? towards the spectators.

 

Golf used to be so cool, the respect for the game combined with thoughtful patrons. Walls of smartphones have destroyed it for me...now I watch in horror at the crowds taking it all in through their screens. Bring on end times please! o:)

[PZero]

> @Edward_Majorwin said:

> Golf used to be so cool, the respect for the game combined with thoughtful patrons. Walls of smartphones have destroyed it for me...now I watch in horror at the crowds taking it all in through their screens. Bring on end times please! o:)

 

Same with people at concerts. People just can't enjoy the moment.

[bladehunter]

> @Edward_Majorwin said:

> > @bladehunter said:

> > Adam Scott was heckled pretty hard today. And not just the guys who followed him calling him tiger for some unknown reason.

> >

> > I also heard several idiots yelling after every DJ chip or putt. Like a big Yeaahhh! Randomly after a Chip or bunker shot. Wasn’t just idiots on 18. Unless cbs is piping in idiot voices.

>

> I was watching and hearing blasts of bros shouting and trying to one up each other in poor behaviour. I thought "are these guys just purposely standing near the microphone clowning or are they being that fricking loud for real?" - it kinda shocked me that none of the players looked off to gesture a WTF? towards the spectators.

>

> Golf used to be so cool, the respect for the game combined with thoughtful patrons. Walls of smartphones have destroyed it for me...now I watch in horror at the crowds taking it all in through their screens. Bring on end times please! o:)

 

Yep. Noticed Jordan dead ignoring some “ nice shot Jordan “ after he hit something bad , which is what his sister says often no matter the outcome . If that was on purpose , in that context , then I can’t say what I’m thinking it’s so bad. Truth is if you engaged them then they would get worse. They absolutely want someone to say anything back.

[bigchucksr]

Clearly something needs to be done. This isn't a New York or Long Island problem--it started during that absolute joke of the 16th hole in Phoenix and has gotten worse as the years have gone by.

For me it has made watching tournaments a difficult process--so much time I have the sound muted just to be able to watch the matches.

I'm sure the venues are not willing to give up the income from the alcohol sales and are reluctant to pass up the ticket sales from the drunk idiots but the noise, disruption, and rudeness are so alien to most of us had considered golf a staid quiet game.

Eventually the PGA and the players have to make a decision about the direction they want to take this self created mess.

Augusta does not tolerate the behavior so whatever method(s) they use at the venue should be applied to ALL tournaments and a good start would be that aforementioned 16th hole at the start of the year.

We all need to get involved if we want to enjoy our game in decency.

[BIG STU]

> @nsxguy said:

> > @bladehunter said:

> > > @bscinstnct said:

> > > “New York is an ugly city, a dirty city. Its climate is a scandal, its politics are used to frighten children, its traffic is madness, its competition is murderous.

> > > But there is one thing about it - once you have lived in New York and it has become your home, no place else is good enough.”

> > > ― John Steinbeck

> >

> > Don’t confuse my ramblings for New York hate. It’s idiots I detest. > @nsxguy said:

> > > > @"BIG STU" said:

> > > > > @jholz said:

> > > > > I was yelled at in Coney Island for ordering a sandwich wrong.

> > > > >

> > > > > But then again, that happened in Philly too.

> > > > >

> > > > > I guess I just suck at ordering sandwiches.

> > > >

> > > > Naah--- I can tell you from my over the road trucking days if you are from down South they do not like you in either one of those cities---- **But then what is the first thing they do when they retire? Move down South especially in the Myrtle Beach Grand Strand area of SC**.

> > >

> > > It's called "climate". LOL

> >

> > Yea. But I know what Stu means.

> >

> > They sell there and buy here and pocket half a million ( or more) and then walk around as if they are king shat of **** mountain. Telling the whole world how dumb we are and how “ we used to do it up there “. Heaven help you if one gets voted to a school board or city council. Literally need an interpreter for meetings. Lol.

> >

> > That being said. I’m good friends with many people from the north. So generalizations are bad. But ..... it’s a bad day when you get one of the bad apples down here trying to rule the neighborhood.

> >

> > They come here for more than climate. It’s the cheap taxes , cheap ( relatively ) housing market. Those two things alone can facilitate an early retirement if selling out and moving from north to south. . And that’s fine. Just don’t gripe once you get here. Assimilate or go back. Lol

> >

> > Example. In the south. A lot , if not most mom and pop businesses , including attorneys , doctors etc don’t like to work past noon on Friday. And may not do much before noon on Monday. Lol. If I had a dollar for every time I’ve heard “ why are you closed , it’s 330 on Friday “ on my answering machine .... answer is of course “ it’s 330 on Friday “. Lol. We get caught up , and the suns out , we lock up and leave. There’s golf balls need chasing , fish need caught , etc.

>

> I know what Stu and you mean,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but i ain't startin' no Civil War again.

>

> But tell me, does South Carolina have a "Hands Free" cell phone law ? No texting while driving law ? And if so, is it a "primary" offense (i.e. a cop CAN stop you for it) " Or is it only a secondary offense where you can only be ticketed for it if a cop stops you for something else and also sees you were on a hand held phone (or texting) ?

 

They have a no texting law but it is only a $25 fine but I think it is a primary offense. They are trying to do an overall bill like the one in Georgia where it is hands free driving period. I know one of my buds on another golf site visited me one day. He is a Police Officer in Georgia. He gave me the run down on the law. Now commercial vehicles it is another matter it is hands free period or a big big fine. But that comes under federal law. That is why you see most professional truck drivers with headsets on. Since my truck is a 2017 it has the built in Bluetooth from the factory like most cars. BTW in SC the seat belt ticket is only $25 but they finally made it a primary offense it was a secondary offense for years

[BIG STU]

> @bladehunter said:

> @nsxguy

>

> Quick search says no. You cannot text. But it’s not illegal to hold a phone and talk or use gps. Appears they had a bill trying to go through Jan this year and now it’s dead as of April.

>

> Not surprising. They tried to pass the seatbelt law for 10-15 years and finally got it through with a lie. A lie that said all our insurance rates would drop. They didn’t.

>

> Another fun fact . I have to wear a seat belt in a car. But. You can ride a motorcycle with zero helmet in SC. Lol. How’s that make sense? I’ll tell you. The motorcycle lobby has deep enough pockets to keep it from passing.

 

I am going to amend your statement on the helmet law in SC---- It is a choice to wear a helmet or not if you are over 21. Under 21 you gotta wear a helmet. Being Harley Week here now sadly we have had I know of 3 fatalities and the press is quick here to point out if they were wearing a helmet or not. But the same theme with car fatalities they are quick to point out if they are wearing a seat belt or not. The only reason they passed the seat belt law in SC was because the federal government threatened them to cut back federal highway funds if they did not do so

[BIG STU]

> @nsxguy said:

> > @buckeyefl said:

> > > @nsxguy said:

> > > > @bladehunter said:

> > > > @nsxguy

> > > >

> > > > Quick search says no. You cannot text. But it’s not illegal to hold a phone and talk or use gps. Appears they had a bill trying to go through Jan this year and now it’s dead as of April.

> > > >

> > > > Not surprising. They tried to pass the seatbelt law for 10-15 years and finally got it through with a lie. A lie that said all our insurance rates would drop. They didn’t.

> > > >

> > > > Another fun fact . I have to wear a seat belt in a car. But. You can ride a motorcycle with zero helmet in SC. Lol. How’s that make sense? I’ll tell you. The motorcycle lobby has deep enough pockets to keep it from passing.

> > >

> > > When I first decided to ride, over 30 years ago, I read a number of books about it first. I remember reading, about helmets, that anyone dumb enough to ride without one doesn't have anything worth protecting. Personally I did, and still do, believe that.

> > >

> > > There was a helmet law passed in Flori-DUH some time back and there was so much bitching about it, you know, about "taking away our rights (to kill ourselves LOL), it was repealed and now no riders has to wear a brain bucket.

> > >

> > > IMO opinion, while texting while driving is now against the law in 48(?) states, a ban on using hand held phones isn't even close to 48 states and talking on a hand held phone, while not as dangerous as texting, is certainly in the ballpark. Yet so many states haven't passed the law.

> > >

> > > People don't move away from a greenlight because they're talking on their phones. They don't move out of the left lane. They don't realize they've got a green arrow. They change lanes without looking. They tailgate on I-95. ALL of these things and more. And why ? because they're talking on their phones. Ridiculous.

> > >

> > > New York passed it almost 20 years ago. NO hand held devices while driving. Period. Since this is a New York bashing thread and those New Yawkers shouldn't tell "us" how to do things [rolleyes], I just wondered what the "Southern Tier" thought about that sort of thing.

> > >

> > > And that's ALL I'll say about it.

> >

> > Wow was that a long road to a muscle pulling stretch. Good God can we bring up **all of the ridiculous NY laws** as a counter-argument because that would be REALLY long.

> >

> > Blade hit it on the head with how this particular group ( not all NYers) act when they move south and they have earned their reputation and then some. They are like locusts.

>

> "Ridiculous NY laws" ?

>

> Do you really not understand how dangerous distracted driving is ? What a threat it is to the driver and others in their cars ?

>

> But more importantly how dangerous it is to other drivers, who ARE paying attention ? Do you not realize that talking on a hand held cell phone is not the same as talking via a bluetooth device through your car's speaker's system ?

>

> Talk about "ridiculous". LOL

>

>

 

Trust me I know all about distracted driving---- I see it every day being a professional truck driver--- Trust me up in a big truck you can spot them quick weaving across the line and running up on people's rear end. What has gotten to be a problem here is the little old blue haired ladies that can not drive to begin with driving 20 in a 45 with cell phone tucked firmly in ear.

[BIG STU]

> @bigchucksr said:

> Clearly something needs to be done. This isn't a New York or Long Island problem--it started during that absolute joke of the 16th hole in Phoenix and has gotten worse as the years have gone by.

> For me it has made watching tournaments a difficult process--so much time I have the sound muted just to be able to watch the matches.

> I'm sure the venues are not willing to give up the income from the alcohol sales and are reluctant to pass up the ticket sales from the drunk idiots but the noise, disruption, and rudeness are so alien to most of us had considered golf a staid quiet game.

> Eventually the PGA and the players have to make a decision about the direction they want to take this self created mess.

> Augusta does not tolerate the behavior so whatever method(s) they use at the venue should be applied to ALL tournaments and a good start would be that aforementioned 16th hole at the start of the year.

> We all need to get involved if we want to enjoy our game in decency.

 

Very well stated all the way around. My sentiments exactly

[buckeyefl]

> @nsxguy said:

> > @buckeyefl said:

> > > @nsxguy said:

> > > > @bladehunter said:

> > > > @nsxguy

> > > >

> > > > Quick search says no. You cannot text. But it’s not illegal to hold a phone and talk or use gps. Appears they had a bill trying to go through Jan this year and now it’s dead as of April.

> > > >

> > > > Not surprising. They tried to pass the seatbelt law for 10-15 years and finally got it through with a lie. A lie that said all our insurance rates would drop. They didn’t.

> > > >

> > > > Another fun fact . I have to wear a seat belt in a car. But. You can ride a motorcycle with zero helmet in SC. Lol. How’s that make sense? I’ll tell you. The motorcycle lobby has deep enough pockets to keep it from passing.

> > >

> > > When I first decided to ride, over 30 years ago, I read a number of books about it first. I remember reading, about helmets, that anyone dumb enough to ride without one doesn't have anything worth protecting. Personally I did, and still do, believe that.

> > >

> > > There was a helmet law passed in Flori-DUH some time back and there was so much bitching about it, you know, about "taking away our rights (to kill ourselves LOL), it was repealed and now no riders has to wear a brain bucket.

> > >

> > > IMO opinion, while texting while driving is now against the law in 48(?) states, a ban on using hand held phones isn't even close to 48 states and talking on a hand held phone, while not as dangerous as texting, is certainly in the ballpark. Yet so many states haven't passed the law.

> > >

> > > People don't move away from a greenlight because they're talking on their phones. They don't move out of the left lane. They don't realize they've got a green arrow. They change lanes without looking. They tailgate on I-95. ALL of these things and more. And why ? because they're talking on their phones. Ridiculous.

> > >

> > > New York passed it almost 20 years ago. NO hand held devices while driving. Period. Since this is a New York bashing thread and those New Yawkers shouldn't tell "us" how to do things [rolleyes], I just wondered what the "Southern Tier" thought about that sort of thing.

> > >

> > > And that's ALL I'll say about it.

> >

> > Wow was that a long road to a muscle pulling stretch. Good God can we bring up **all of the ridiculous NY laws** as a counter-argument because that would be REALLY long.

> >

> > Blade hit it on the head with how this particular group ( not all NYers) act when they move south and they have earned their reputation and then some. They are like locusts.

>

> "Ridiculous NY laws" ?

>

> Do you really not understand how dangerous distracted driving is ? What a threat it is to the driver and others in their cars ?

>

> But more importantly how dangerous it is to other drivers, who ARE paying attention ? Do you not realize that talking on a hand held cell phone is not the same as talking via a bluetooth device through your car's speaker's system ?

>

> Talk about "ridiculous". LOL

>

>

That not the point but obviously you knew that before you tried to act offended. To answer your question, of course I am and have been since the age of 10 when I lost a 5 year old cousin and nearly list my aunt and her three daughters when someone coming at them reached for a piece if gum. You tried to make a point that 2+2= apple pie and that's ridiculous.

 

 

Yes ridiculous as in how you are acting. Try to focus as it's you being ridiculous with your meandering story to try to make a point that is about as silly and far off topic as you can get. I expect better from you.

[ghostrider]

I've posted it beofre but here it is again - one thing that would help is to actually enforce existing laws on public intox. And I know it;s low priority but tossing 40-50 of these clowns in jail and making it clear that there is plenty of room might convince the others to behave like adults.

[bladehunter]

> @"BIG STU" said:

> > @bladehunter said:

> > @nsxguy

> >

> > Quick search says no. You cannot text. But it’s not illegal to hold a phone and talk or use gps. Appears they had a bill trying to go through Jan this year and now it’s dead as of April.

> >

> > Not surprising. They tried to pass the seatbelt law for 10-15 years and finally got it through with a lie. A lie that said all our insurance rates would drop. They didn’t.

> >

> > Another fun fact . I have to wear a seat belt in a car. But. You can ride a motorcycle with zero helmet in SC. Lol. How’s that make sense? I’ll tell you. The motorcycle lobby has deep enough pockets to keep it from passing.

>

> I am going to amend your statement on the helmet law in SC---- It is a choice to wear a helmet or not if you are over 21. Under 21 you gotta wear a helmet. Being Harley Week here now sadly we have had I know of 3 fatalities and the press is quick here to point out if they were wearing a helmet or not. But the same theme with car fatalities they are quick to point out if they are wearing a seat belt or not. The only reason they passed the seat belt law in SC was because the federal government threatened them to cut back federal highway funds if they did not do so

 

Yep. I’d hate to see our roads if they cut back funds. I guess we’d go back to dirt roads lol. I know they pave them around Charleston and MB regularly ... but upstate it’s a joke. They’ve shut down parts of interstate 4-5 times this year because of potholes big enough to bust tires. And of course a blowout at 70 plus equals crashes.

[BlackDiamondPar5]

> @bladehunter said:

> > @PZero said:

> > First major in a long time that I haven't watched more than 10 minutes of.

>

> Yep. Tried to get a group together to play tomorrow. Half on vacation , the others have commitments ranging from wife’s birthday to “ my back hurts “. Nobody said “ I’m staying home to watch the pga”. Looks like it will be me and little man for 5 o’clock 9 .

 

Blade, honestly all those things you mentioned trump watching golf on TV no matter who is playing.

 

Some people here clearly have an unhealthy obsession with Tiger. Like I said, if Tiger was leading by 7 the fanboys would be here with a lot of drivel nonsense. Good golf is good no matter who is playing.

[new2g0lf]

> @bladehunter said:

> > @"BIG STU" said:

> > > @bladehunter said:

> > > @nsxguy

> > >

> > > Quick search says no. You cannot text. But it’s not illegal to hold a phone and talk or use gps. Appears they had a bill trying to go through Jan this year and now it’s dead as of April.

> > >

> > > Not surprising. They tried to pass the seatbelt law for 10-15 years and finally got it through with a lie. A lie that said all our insurance rates would drop. They didn’t.

> > >

> > > Another fun fact . I have to wear a seat belt in a car. But. You can ride a motorcycle with zero helmet in SC. Lol. How’s that make sense? I’ll tell you. The motorcycle lobby has deep enough pockets to keep it from passing.

> >

> > I am going to amend your statement on the helmet law in SC---- It is a choice to wear a helmet or not if you are over 21. Under 21 you gotta wear a helmet. Being Harley Week here now sadly we have had I know of 3 fatalities and the press is quick here to point out if they were wearing a helmet or not. But the same theme with car fatalities they are quick to point out if they are wearing a seat belt or not. The only reason they passed the seat belt law in SC was because the federal government threatened them to cut back federal highway funds if they did not do so

>

> Yep. I’d hate to see our roads if they cut back funds. I guess we’d go back to dirt roads lol. I know they pave them around Charleston and MB regularly ... but upstate it’s a joke. They’ve shut down parts of interstate 4-5 times this year because of potholes big enough to bust tires. And of course a blowout at 70 plus equals crashes.

 

Come to NY and sample some of our potholes but wear a mouth guard to avoid having some fillings knocked loose.

[bladehunter]

> @BlackDiamondPar5 said:

> Test

 

Yep. You’re still active ! lol

[bubbagump]

> @bigchucksr said:

> **Clearly something needs to be done.** This isn't a New York or Long Island problem--it started during that absolute joke of the 16th hole in Phoenix and has gotten worse as the years have gone by.

> For me it has made watching tournaments a difficult process--so much time I have the sound muted just to be able to watch the matches.

> I'm sure the venues are not willing to give up the income from the alcohol sales and are reluctant to pass up the ticket sales from the drunk idiots but the noise, disruption, and rudeness are so alien to most of us had considered golf a staid quiet game.

> Eventually the PGA and the players have to make a decision about the direction they want to take this self created mess.

> Augusta does not tolerate the behavior so whatever method(s) they use at the venue should be applied to ALL tournaments and a good start would be that aforementioned 16th hole at the start of the year.

> **We all need to get involved if we want to enjoy our game in decency.**

 

No it doesn't, and No we dont. Just because a segment doesn't care for something doesn't mean its wrong or bad or going in the wrong direction. If you find to it to be so terrible and are triggered, then dont go or watch but to act as if people need to band together to stop something because you dont like it is silly.

 

 

[golfer07840]

> @Bucken77 said:

> This type of karma is why my Knicks will never win again

Or the Mets, Jets, Rangers , Islanders.. heck, the Yankees haven't won in 10 years and the NY Giants have been relatively bad going on 7 years now.

[LeoLeo99]

> @Edward_Majorwin said:

> > @bladehunter said:

> > Adam Scott was heckled pretty hard today. And not just the guys who followed him calling him tiger for some unknown reason.

> >

> > I also heard several idiots yelling after every DJ chip or putt. Like a big Yeaahhh! Randomly after a Chip or bunker shot. Wasn’t just idiots on 18. Unless cbs is piping in idiot voices.

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> I was watching and hearing blasts of bros shouting and trying to one up each other in poor behaviour. I thought "are these guys just purposely standing near the microphone clowning or are they being that fricking loud for real?" - it kinda shocked me that none of the players looked off to gesture a WTF? towards the spectators.

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> Golf used to be so cool, the respect for the game combined with thoughtful patrons. Walls of smartphones have destroyed it for me...now I watch in horror at the crowds taking it all in through their screens. Bring on end times please! o:)

 

You consider a big Yeaahhh! to be heckling? Clearly, you're not from around here. None of the players looked off the green because it it doesn't bother them. The players are way more concerned with something happening while they are actually making a stroke than anything before or after it.

 

The microphones on the course make things sound louder on TV than in person. I watched a couple groups tee off the first hole on TV on Friday and the announcer's voice is very loud and clear on TV. Was standing to the side of the grandstands behind the first tee yesterday about 25 feet from the left tee maker. Could barely hear the announcement for Adam Scott.

[NoodleSalad]

> @bubbagump said:

> > @bigchucksr said:

> > **Clearly something needs to be done.** This isn't a New York or Long Island problem--it started during that absolute joke of the 16th hole in Phoenix and has gotten worse as the years have gone by.

> > For me it has made watching tournaments a difficult process--so much time I have the sound muted just to be able to watch the matches.

> > I'm sure the venues are not willing to give up the income from the alcohol sales and are reluctant to pass up the ticket sales from the drunk idiots but the noise, disruption, and rudeness are so alien to most of us had considered golf a staid quiet game.

> > Eventually the PGA and the players have to make a decision about the direction they want to take this self created mess.

> > Augusta does not tolerate the behavior so whatever method(s) they use at the venue should be applied to ALL tournaments and a good start would be that aforementioned 16th hole at the start of the year.

> > **We all need to get involved if we want to enjoy our game in decency.**

>

> No it doesn't, and No we dont. Just because a segment doesn't care for something doesn't mean its wrong or bad or going in the wrong direction. If you find to it to be so terrible and are triggered, then dont go or watch but to act as if people need to band together to stop something because you dont like it is silly.

 

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Yup, and here's another truth bomb. Some of the players like the give & take with the Long Island bros.

 

I mean, a British spectator at Birkdale picked up McIlroy's ball, stuffed it in his pocket and likely cost the golfer third place and $200,000. Is that the paradigm we should all follow, from the self-proclaimed best galleries on earth?

[bladehunter]

> @bubbagump said:

> > @bigchucksr said:

> > **Clearly something needs to be done.** This isn't a New York or Long Island problem--it started during that absolute joke of the 16th hole in Phoenix and has gotten worse as the years have gone by.

> > For me it has made watching tournaments a difficult process--so much time I have the sound muted just to be able to watch the matches.

> > I'm sure the venues are not willing to give up the income from the alcohol sales and are reluctant to pass up the ticket sales from the drunk idiots but the noise, disruption, and rudeness are so alien to most of us had considered golf a staid quiet game.

> > Eventually the PGA and the players have to make a decision about the direction they want to take this self created mess.

> > Augusta does not tolerate the behavior so whatever method(s) they use at the venue should be applied to ALL tournaments and a good start would be that aforementioned 16th hole at the start of the year.

> > **We all need to get involved if we want to enjoy our game in decency.**

>

> No it doesn't, and No we dont. Just because a segment doesn't care for something doesn't mean its wrong or bad or going in the wrong direction. If you find to it to be so terrible and are triggered, then dont go or watch but to act as if people need to band together to stop something because you dont like it is silly.

>

>

 

Pretty big majority here would agree that the behavior is not wanted. Simple as that.