I was embarrassed to be at Bethpage...

[dbdors]

> @Pauly567 said:

> I wanted to see if anyone here attended yesterday's first round , and if so what their thoughts were on the fans? I don't write very many posts on GolfWRX, but I have to say that attending Bethpage yesterday was pretty nauseating to say the least. I'm sure there will be people who throw around words like Snowflake, etc when they read this, but the etiquette or lack there of I witnessed yesterday was deplorable; and it was all under the heading of "Hey, I'm from NY". As someone who grew up on Long Island, I was embarrassed. I stood next to the tee-box on 7 watching Phil, Rory and Kisner come through and wanted to vomit at the stuff that was coming out of some of these people's mouths; and could only imagine what the players were thinking. Then Phil hit the restroom after he teed off, only to return to very specific and graphic questions about what he was doing in there.....there were some other choice remark as well thrown Rory's way.

> That being said, I think I'm venting more on the fact that this has become "acceptable" ... I guess it's just worse in NY because people think that being from NY they just have an excuse to be A--H---e. I was going to take my 5 year old to the tournament yesterday, but I though it would be to long a day for him . I'm glad I made that decision, as I'm not quite sure what I would have said to him at that point when he said, Daddy, why are they yelling those things at them? ...Maybe I just witnessed the worst fans of the week on that particular tee box, but something tell me I'm being being to optimistic.

> I just happen to see the Billy Horshell Incident last week on twitter, and I guess that's what also prompted me to write this. I was in 100% agreement with Billy and his reaction. Reading comments from people om twitter who genuinely believe they have the right to act, say and do anything they want is total Bull---t. Get some manners people...and If you can't control your self when having a few beers, then don't drink. I'm all for cheering, and a little heckling, but there's a line ....and if you don't know where that line is then stay home.

 

Well said, and I don't agree that heckling should be allowed. These are individuals trying to make a living. Nobody comes to their jobs and bad mouths them while they try to work.

I have never been to the Masters or many other tourneys for that matter, but I don't ever recall some one yelling "mash potatoes", or "ba ba boi" at Augusta. Why? I'm sure they'd haul you rump out of there and you'd loose your ticket and likely the right to ever come back. Other tourneys should do the same.

[Man_O_War]

i bet you most aren't native NYkers

[BlackDiamondPar5]

> @juggernaut0629 said:

> > @OleVirginia said:

> > Was going to write something about social media (and the media at large, really) emboldening people to overstep socially acceptable norms in the quest for their 15 minutes of viral fame but I don't really want to go down that rabbit hole. Instead, I'll chime in with a freezing cold take... New Yorkers are a--h----!

> >

> > TBM

>

> Please don't judge the entire state of NY by the actions of those from NYC & surrounding area. That's a very small part of the state. Unfortunately people think that the entire population of NY acts like those from the city. The reality is that we don't.

 

Which is why when we go on vacation and someone asks us where we're from, we say, "Western NY, 6 hours from NYC and we're nothing like those from the city." This often elicits a laugh and a response of "I know what you mean."> @bladehunter said:

> > @NoodleSalad said:

> > Well the Horschel incident did not take place in NY, rather in another place 1000 miles away, so what that has to do with this I don't know. And I noticed that English golfer Eddie Pepperell actually tweeted that the fan should have been kneed to the face, which seems a lot more egregious than a rude comment. But I guess this is where we're at. Promoting violence is okay in response to a dumb comment.

> If more knees hit faces. A lot less rude comments would fly for no reason. Now it may take 30 years to have it take a societal hold. But it took that long for it to become “ normal “ as well.

>

 

What happened with Billy Ho?

[manku]

Good thing none of you attended a Rangers/Islanders game at MSG in the 80s! You would have had to be carried out on a stretcher :)

 

[bladehunter]

True story. I have a good friend who lives in Lindenhurst NY. Ex nyc cop. ( retired) etc. I was up that way for work once and he coaxed me over to Long Island and we went out for lunch. He takes me to his fav pizza joint. As in standing there in line to order a slice , the guy behind the counter looks at us and says to my friend “ hey kev ... where’d you get this jerk*** at “. I literally hadn’t said a single word. I’m standing there. Wearing slacks and a polo .... clean shaven , with the politest intentions in my head. Before I could think I said “ where are you from.?Can’t be from NY... everybody is supposed to be so nice “. The guy cracked up. Lol. And That was that. Seems you just have to give it back. But I honestly wanted to reach across the counter. Rudest comment out of the blue ever said to me in person. Say that in SC and somebody needs to call the law. Lol. But apparently that’s just how people communicate ?

[SNIPERBBB]

Mayor of NYC the other day about NYC'ers "look the same whether they're really pissed off at you or they like you."

[ray9898]

It gives you a glimpse of where our society has devolved to.....

[jholz]

> @bladehunter said:

> > @jholz said:

> > I was yelled at in Coney Island for ordering a sandwich wrong.

> >

> > But then again, that happened in Philly too.

> >

> > I guess I just suck at ordering sandwiches.

>

>

> Ffs. If you’re ordering , how can it be wrong ?

 

Yeah, I mean, it seems like that should be the case.

[buckeye440]

> @Bucken77 said:

> This type of karma is why my Knicks will never win again

 

Knicks won't be relevant until they get a different owner. I mean 30 year olds probably don't really remember a time when they were good. Last I remember is Knicks vs Spurs in what '99, but I really do not remember the series. I am happy they likely won't get Zion. /rant

[bladehunter]

Just watch tigers shot now. People are literally raving idiots. Drop a grenade and get a free drop I say.

[755]

Pretty much what you would expect , obnoxious idiots.

[Darth Putter]

I see they've called in the police to get the crowd moved on #1.

[NoodleSalad]

> @bladehunter said:

> > @NoodleSalad said:

> > Well the Horschel incident did not take place in NY, rather in another place 1000 miles away, so what that has to do with this I don't know. And I noticed that English golfer Eddie Pepperell actually tweeted that the fan should have been kneed to the face, which seems a lot more egregious than a rude comment. But I guess this is where we're at. Promoting violence is okay in response to a dumb comment.

> If more knees hit faces. A lot less rude comments would fly for no reason. Now it may take 30 years to have it take a societal hold. But it took that long for it to become “ normal “ as well.

>

 

Exactly! More GBH is necessary to get the kind of society you want.

[buckeye440]

> @tiderider said:

> > @DatSliceDoe said:

> > I blame excess alcohol sales.

>

> nope ... a-holes gonna a-hole ... it's the new definition of masculine that's slowly been proffered the last 30 years ...

 

I would say it contributes. I have done regrettable things (mainly one thing) drunk that I would never do sober. Now, I just do not get that drunk at a public event like that. All about control.

[Konklifer]

The spectacle around Tiger's second shot on #1 today was insane. A**hats literally over his shoulder yelling at him.

[bladehunter]

> @NoodleSalad said:

> > @bladehunter said:

> > > @NoodleSalad said:

> > > Well the Horschel incident did not take place in NY, rather in another place 1000 miles away, so what that has to do with this I don't know. And I noticed that English golfer Eddie Pepperell actually tweeted that the fan should have been kneed to the face, which seems a lot more egregious than a rude comment. But I guess this is where we're at. Promoting violence is okay in response to a dumb comment.

> > If more knees hit faces. A lot less rude comments would fly for no reason. Now it may take 30 years to have it take a societal hold. But it took that long for it to become “ normal “ as well.

> >

>

> Exactly! More GBH is necessary to get the kind of society you want.

 

GBH?

 

It’s not about more violence. It’s about the idea that the things that are now normal to put up with now are not ok. Would actually be less violence if there weren’t laws protecting idiots who need to be put in line. Rudeness used to be a social crime that was handled quickly by society. Now it’s illegal to do so.

[3whacker]

Just watched Tiger play his second shot from the thick grass and EVERYONE had out their phone trying to capture the moment, so much for the rules of no cellphones on the course

[lowheel]

Im just here to have the vaporz disagree with my post otherwise ill feel left out... ;)

[falken19150]

Its a shame because most people from Long Island are actually pretty nice. Could you imagine the LIRR filled with all these idiots going back to Jersey and the city.

[Roadking2003]

Watched the idiots yelling around Tiger. Reminds me of kids getting drunk on spring break. Surely there are no adults there acting like this.

 

The contrast with the Masters' fans is startling.

[Hawkeye77]

> @Dean21 said:

> Just wait until the Ryder Cup is there in a few years. Oh my.

 

It will be a disaster.

[Roadking2003]

> @Konklifer said:

> The spectacle around Tiger's second shot on #1 today was insane. A**hats literally over his shoulder yelling at him.

 

Controlling the crowd is the responsibility of the PGA. What they allowed to happen with Tiger on #1 wasn't as bad as what they did to DJ in 2010, but it's close.

[NoodleSalad]

> @bladehunter said:

> > @NoodleSalad said:

> > > @bladehunter said:

> > > > @NoodleSalad said:

> > > > Well the Horschel incident did not take place in NY, rather in another place 1000 miles away, so what that has to do with this I don't know. And I noticed that English golfer Eddie Pepperell actually tweeted that the fan should have been kneed to the face, which seems a lot more egregious than a rude comment. But I guess this is where we're at. Promoting violence is okay in response to a dumb comment.

> > > If more knees hit faces. A lot less rude comments would fly for no reason. Now it may take 30 years to have it take a societal hold. But it took that long for it to become “ normal “ as well.

> > >

> >

> > Exactly! More GBH is necessary to get the kind of society you want.

>

> GBH?

>

> It’s not about more violence. It’s about the idea that the things that are now normal to put up with now are not ok. Would actually be less violence if there weren’t laws protecting idiots who need to be put in line. Rudeness used to be a social crime that was handled quickly by society. Now it’s illegal to do so.

 

Yeah, and there's a process involved for removing unruly fans. It does not involve a knee to the face and a trip to the ER. I do find it quite interesting how that suggestion came from an Englishman who wasn't even in New Orleans and had nothing to do with the event. And then Horschel's Twitter feed was flooded with more Brits telling him "good job Billy, let's assault the Yank fans." There seems to be an obvious agenda here.

[bladehunter]

> @NoodleSalad said:

> > @bladehunter said:

> > > @NoodleSalad said:

> > > > @bladehunter said:

> > > > > @NoodleSalad said:

> > > > > Well the Horschel incident did not take place in NY, rather in another place 1000 miles away, so what that has to do with this I don't know. And I noticed that English golfer Eddie Pepperell actually tweeted that the fan should have been kneed to the face, which seems a lot more egregious than a rude comment. But I guess this is where we're at. Promoting violence is okay in response to a dumb comment.

> > > > If more knees hit faces. A lot less rude comments would fly for no reason. Now it may take 30 years to have it take a societal hold. But it took that long for it to become “ normal “ as well.

> > > >

> > >

> > > Exactly! More GBH is necessary to get the kind of society you want.

> >

> > GBH?

> >

> > It’s not about more violence. It’s about the idea that the things that are now normal to put up with now are not ok. Would actually be less violence if there weren’t laws protecting idiots who need to be put in line. Rudeness used to be a social crime that was handled quickly by society. Now it’s illegal to do so.

>

> Yeah, and there's a process involved for removing unruly fans. It does not involve a knee to the face and a trip to the ER. I do find it quite interesting how that suggestion came from an Englishman who wasn't even in New Orleans and had nothing to do with the event. And then Horschel's Twitter feed was flooded with more Brits telling him "good job Billy, let's assault the Yank fans." There seems to be an obvious agenda here.

 

As evident by tigers 1st hole today. Unruly fans rarely get ejected. Very rare. There were 300 people there that qualified for unruly. Society will be exactly what it’s allowed to be.

[bscinstnct]

“New York is an ugly city, a dirty city. Its climate is a scandal, its politics are used to frighten children, its traffic is madness, its competition is murderous.

But there is one thing about it - once you have lived in New York and it has become your home, no place else is good enough.”

― John Steinbeck

[blink3665]

> @NoodleSalad said:

> Well the Horschel incident did not take place in NY, rather in another place 1000 miles away, so what that has to do with this I don't know. And I noticed that English golfer Eddie Pepperell actually tweeted that the fan should have been kneed to the face, which seems a lot more egregious than a rude comment. But I guess this is where we're at. Promoting violence is okay in response to a dumb comment.

 

The Horschel incident has similarities to the rudeness and indecency of some of the PGA Championship fans. That is what it has to do with it.

 

Now, what Eddie said regarding violence... not sure what that has to do with this. I agree that calling on violence for rude comments is out of line, but the OP didnt say anything about taking violent actions against rude people.

[legitimategolf]

This is a Long Island crowd, not NYC.

[sailfishchris]

Well , look at it this way if Tiger misses the cut the a---h----s will disappear.

[Naptime]

Maybe Augusta should manage crowds for all the majors. But they don't need the money or the hassle.

[caniac6]

> @Hawkeye77 said:

> > @Dean21 said:

> > Just wait until the Ryder Cup is there in a few years. Oh my.

>

> It will be a disaster.

 

If I were the European team, I might stay home.