Most undeserving major winner ever?

[Carl Spackler3]

Not messing up when others can not close makes you deserving. NY Giants Super Bowl when Bills Norwood missed FG makes Giants deserving. No major win was undeserved

[JD3]

> @"Carl Spackler3" said:

> Not messing up when others can not close makes you deserving. NY Giants Super Bowl when Bills Norwood missed FG makes Giants deserving. No major win was undeserved

 

Think I heard make % for a 47 yard FG at that time was around 50%. He had plenty of distance and it didn't miss by much. Hardly a choke and gifted victory to Giants.

[macedan]

> @widow-maker said:

> Stewart Cink. Watson had that thing won.

 

The only correct answer. Missourians now have to wait for Brice Garnett or Peter Malnati to win a major. :'(

[loneacer]

> @macedan said:

> > @widow-maker said:

> > Stewart Cink. Watson had that thing won.

>

> The only correct answer. Missourians now have to wait for Brice Garnett or Peter Malnati to win a major. :'(

Doesn't Watson live in Kansas? My ex-boss lives in the same subdivision as him.

[macedan]

> @loneacer said:

> > @macedan said:

> > > @widow-maker said:

> > > Stewart Cink. Watson had that thing won.

> >

> > The only correct answer. Missourians now have to wait for Brice Garnett or Peter Malnati to win a major. :'(

> Doesn't Watson live in Kansas? My ex-boss lives in the same subdivision as him.

Born in KCMO

 

[avrag]

 

> @dlygrisse said:

> Hanging around the top of the leader board will snag you a few majors over a career. Just ask Jack. (a few 2nds will fall in your lap as well)

> Oh, Tiger did this at the Masters this year as well, so did he not deserve to win, when everyone else choked?

 

He did his best to choke as well, but got some of the most fortunate breaks after horrible drives I have ever seen.

[dlygrisse]

> @avrag said:

>

> > @dlygrisse said:

> > Hanging around the top of the leader board will snag you a few majors over a career. Just ask Jack. (a few 2nds will fall in your lap as well)

> > Oh, Tiger did this at the Masters this year as well, so did he not deserve to win, when everyone else choked?

>

> He did his best to choke as well, but got some of the most fortunate breaks after horrible drives I have ever seen.

 

I think he "deserved" to win. He hit the fewest shots, no one played the perfect round, nor does anyone really ever. He was the best player that week and certainly on Sunday. Tiger hit the shots he needed to hit, and to his credit he knew where he could miss. He controlled his emotions better than everyone else.

Which is my point, he hung around and let everyone else fall by the wayside. Does it always work, no, if failed Jack 19 times, but the more you put yourself in contention, the luckier you get I guess.

[Foreputts]

> @RSinSG said:

> > @Foreputts said:

> > What an ignorant post, 67 in the final round from Lawrie and those two long irons he hit to one of the toughest golf holes in the world and he's an undeserving winner?

> > Stupid beyond belief

>

> Welcome to WRX. You set the bar pretty high for yourself with your first post.

Perhaps was a little harsh, I'll admit. Apologies if you're reading, whoever it was - you're wrong though.

[chigolfer1]

I love the title of this thread. "undeserving" lol. Given every other person in the field had the same opportunity to have the lowest score, how is a winner never deserving?

[JDCON]

Lionel Hebert. I don’t know?

[williamsnrb]

I don't know why these threads pop up every few months or so. If a player wins, he 'deserves' it. End of story.

[imakaveli]

> @Foreputts said:

> > @RSinSG said:

> > > @Foreputts said:

> > > What an ignorant post, 67 in the final round from Lawrie and those two long irons he hit to one of the toughest golf holes in the world and he's an undeserving winner?

> > > Stupid beyond belief

> >

> > Welcome to WRX. You set the bar pretty high for yourself with your first post.

> Perhaps was a little harsh, I'll admit. Apologies if you're reading, whoever it was - you're wrong though.

 

But you're right, if TW would have don that final round it would have been acclaimed as one of the rounds of the century. This kind of stupid threads always show that some people have no idea :D

[Foreputts]

Yes, often people make these comments with a lack of knowledge of what actually happened > @imakaveli said:

> > @Foreputts said:

> > > @RSinSG said:

> > > > @Foreputts said:

> > > > What an ignorant post, 67 in the final round from Lawrie and those two long irons he hit to one of the toughest golf holes in the world and he's an undeserving winner?

> > > > Stupid beyond belief

> > >

> > > Welcome to WRX. You set the bar pretty high for yourself with your first post.

> > Perhaps was a little harsh, I'll admit. Apologies if you're reading, whoever it was - you're wrong though.

>

> But you're right, if TW would have don that final round it would have been acclaimed as one of the rounds of the century. This kind of stupid threads always show that some people have no idea :D

 

 

[c7015]

Faldo when Norman choked it away

 

really any of normans chokes except when Mize chipped in ??

[tiderider]

Going to go out on a limb and say the people who won don’t give a s*** if they were deserving or not

[golftejas]

Even the GOAT deserved the win, despite Doug Sander's missed short putt at the 1970 (British) Open ... play 4 days, or in this case 5, and have a 1 shot margin decide everything is a joyous/cruel ending but it happens so often ...

[MountainGoat]

My win at the city championship was a total fluke.

[cdnglf]

> @MountainGoat said:

> My win at the city championship was a total fluke.

 

Congrats on winning the 3,422nd major.

[MountainGoat]

> @cdnglf said:

> > @MountainGoat said:

> > My win at the city championship was a total fluke.

>

> Congrats on winning the 3,422nd major.

 

Thanks. I’m so proud.

[bscinstnct]

More interesting still would be

 

The worst choke to not win after the leader choked.

[imakaveli]

> @bscinstnct said:

> More interesting still would be

>

> The worst choke to not win after the leader choked.

 

Sergio and Paddy at Carnoustie?

[golfandfishing]

Lee Westwood at least twice - 2009 Open, 2016 Masters.

 

Was going to say Monty at Winged Foot but his last gag was before Phil's last hole gag, not after.

 

 

> @bscinstnct said:

> More interesting still would be

>

> The worst choke to not win after the leader choked.

 

 

[bscinstnct]

> @golfandfishing said:

> Lee Westwood at least twice - 2009 Open, 2016 Masters.

>

> Was going to say Monty at Winged Foot but his last gag was before Phil's last hole gag, not after.

>

>

> > @bscinstnct said:

> > More interesting still would be

> >

> > The worst choke to not win after the leader choked.

>

>

 

Oof, yeah, majors have not been good to him...

 

Lee Westwood Had A NSFW Twitter Meltdown After Bombing At The PGA Championship

 

http://www.businessinsider.com/lee-westwood-twitter-meltdown-pga-championship-2013-8

 

[Shilgy]

> @bscinstnct said:

> > @golfandfishing said:

> > Lee Westwood at least twice - 2009 Open, 2016 Masters.

> >

> > Was going to say Monty at Winged Foot but his last gag was before Phil's last hole gag, not after.

> >

> >

> > > @bscinstnct said:

> > > More interesting still would be

> > >

> > > The worst choke to not win after the leader choked.

> >

> >

>

> Oof, yeah, majors have not been good to him...

>

> Lee Westwood Had A NSFW Twitter Meltdown After Bombing At The PGA Championship

>

> http://www.businessinsider.com/lee-westwood-twitter-meltdown-pga-championship-2013-8

>

 

I thought this thread was about the guys who won?

[ea19]

First as William Munny says ‘deserves’ got nothing to do with it.

 

Second Stewart Cink is a terrible choice. He has won multiple tour events, been on bunch of Ryder Cup teams, I think won WGC event. I know many had Watson as sentimental pick but he should have finished it. Cink did.

[Ignatius Reilly]

This has been a fascinating and enlightening thread.

 

Maybe the OP or someone can help me out with a question.

 

Who has the most majors, Tiger or Jack, under this new scoring system?

 

If we don't count penalty strokes (van de Velde at Carnoustie, Spieth in the water at ANGC, etc.) and we don't count the 18th hole (YE Yang, Watson's miss in 2009 Open, v d Velde again, etc.) and we don't use the old-fashioned "number of strokes thru 72 holes" scoring......

 

How many majors does each of those guys have, and who's the GOAT? I suppose it could even be someone else, I don't know how this works. Maybe Fowler?

[golfandfishing]

How dare you suggest Fowler when the answer is Weiskopf.

 

> @"Ignatius Reilly" said:

> This has been a fascinating and enlightening thread.

>

> Maybe the OP or someone can help me out with a question.

>

> Who has the most majors, Tiger or Jack, under this new scoring system?

>

> If we don't count penalty strokes (van de Velde at Carnoustie, Spieth in the water at ANGC, etc.) and we don't count the 18th hole (YE Yang, Watson's miss in 2009 Open, v d Velde again, etc.) and we don't use the old-fashioned "number of strokes thru 72 holes" scoring......

>

> How many majors does each of those guys have, and who's the GOAT? I suppose it could even be someone else, I don't know how this works. Maybe Fowler?

 

 

[lchang]

I assume all the people arguing that the guy with the fewest number of strokes deserved it would say it’s clearly Goalby for the ‘68 Masters, right?

[golfandfishing]

I think Goalby’s win is a big misconception, everyone says DiVincenzo would have won but it would have been a playoff that he was at best 50% to win. Goalby was still at least just as likely to win the playoff anyway. Divincenzo’s error didn’t cost him the win, it cost him a chance to win.

 

> @lchang said:

> I assume all the people arguing that the guy with the fewest number of strokes deserved it would say it’s clearly Goalby for the ‘68 Masters, right?

 

 

[lchang]

> @golfandfishing said:

> I think Goalby’s win is a big misconception, everyone says DiVincenzo would have won but it would have been a playoff that he was at best 50% to win. Goalby was still at least just as likely to win the playoff anyway. Divincenzo’s error didn’t cost him the win, it cost him a chance to win.

>

> > @lchang said:

> > I assume all the people arguing that the guy with the fewest number of strokes deserved it would say it’s clearly Goalby for the ‘68 Masters, right?

>

>

 

Ok, so Goalby was a 50% likely winner based on his golf. Everyone else mentioned (Lawrie, Yang, etc) were at 100% based on their on-course performance: they had the fewest strokes and “deserved” the win. So I still say Goalby is the obvious answer here.