2019 Northern Trust @ Liberty National, NJ

[caseFSU]

> @QuigleyDU said:

> > @caseFSU said:

> > Man, I can't stand Webb Simpson.

>

> Did he ask the camera to move away so the could not hear what he was saying??

 

Sure did. I'm surprised he didn't throw in a 'pal.'

[QuigleyDU]

> @caseFSU said:

> > @QuigleyDU said:

> > > @caseFSU said:

> > > Man, I can't stand Webb Simpson.

> >

> > Did he ask the camera to move away so the could not hear what he was saying??

>

> Sure did. I'm surprised he didn't throw in a 'pal.'

 

Kinda smart though, You have to manage the media drops.

[carrier street]

New drinking game: take a shot every time Rory hits a shot and then stares silently confused at his caddy.

[Moleman]

> @idrive said:

> > @Moleman said:

> > Just arrived in the US from sunny Northern Ireland, woohoo!!

> >

> > Quick question, why can I not find this anywhere on my tv, house has the spectrum package but golf channel is showing the ladies golf and nbcsn is showing NASCAR!! Where is the golf?! ?

>

> Welcome to our partial tournament coverage. hang in there, another 45 minutes from now GC should have it.

 

 

Got it thanks very much... Wow you guys have to endure a lot of commercials!

 

[flushem]

Let's see if LV is right on this.

 

 

The Northern Trust updated

 

D Johnson 9/2

J Rahm 6/1

R McIlroy 6/1

J Rose 10/1

W Simpson 14/1

J Thomas 16/1

T Finau 20/1

T Merritt 25/1

K Kisner 30/1

P Reed 30/1

J Spieth 40/1

B Koepka 40/1

C Reavie 50/1

B DeChambeau 50/1

T Fleetwood 50/1

A Scott 60/1

R Fowler 60/1

[Lagavulin62]

> @OldTomMorris said:

> > @cardoustie said:

> > seems like '19 Masters will be Tiger's answer to Jack's '86

>

> A mate of mine said that at the time and I thought it was way too early to make that prediction but it looks more and more likely now. It was spectacular win and would be a great exclamation point.

 

Was thinking the same thing myself the other day. So difficult to get any can of win these days.

[flushem]

Here is Cory Moore on TW. "really really tough out there"

 

[tiderider]

Sometimes you have to keep your mouth shut, Rory

[straightshot7]

Rory got a 2 stroke penalty for that? Harsh.

What if you have your caddie move the stones? Same rules apply?

[DrivingChamp]

Stupid penalty

[imakaveli]

Rory one of us!

[JD3]

What happened? Not watching on tv

[straightshot7]

What am I missing? Reading this I don't understand why Rory was penalized: https://www.usga.org/content/usga/home-page/rules-hub/rules-modernization/major-changes/moving-or-touching-loose-impediments-or-sand-in-a-bunker.html

 

He did not touch it with the intention of testing anything. He only touched it because he thought it was a rock.

[tiderider]

> @straightshot7 said:

> What am I missing? Reading this I don't understand why Rory was penalized: https://www.usga.org/content/usga/home-page/rules-hub/rules-modernization/major-changes/moving-or-touching-loose-impediments-or-sand-in-a-bunker.html

>

> He did not touch it with the intention of testing anything. He only touched it because he thought it was a rock.

 

apparently doesn't matter ... it was sand, and you can't touch the sand ... he did what he should, but sometimes i think they should just shut up and not say anything about some of these situations ...

[tiderider]

no middle finger?

[the bishop]

When Rory was explaining to the official what he had intended to move before he realized it was a clump of sand my thought was "_you were going to move that_!?" Jeez, just hit the shot. It was nothing.

[DrivingChamp]

[straightshot7]

> @tiderider said:

> > @straightshot7 said:

> > What am I missing? Reading this I don't understand why Rory was penalized: https://www.usga.org/content/usga/home-page/rules-hub/rules-modernization/major-changes/moving-or-touching-loose-impediments-or-sand-in-a-bunker.html

> >

> > He did not touch it with the intention of testing anything. He only touched it because he thought it was a rock.

>

> apparently doesn't matter ... it was sand, and you can't touch the sand ... he did what he should, but sometimes i think they should just shut up and not say anything about some of these situations ...

 

It does matter in the link I posted if you read it. Which rule says you cannot touch the sand for any reason without incurring a 2 stroke penalty?

[tiderider]

> @straightshot7 said:

> > @tiderider said:

> > > @straightshot7 said:

> > > What am I missing? Reading this I don't understand why Rory was penalized: https://www.usga.org/content/usga/home-page/rules-hub/rules-modernization/major-changes/moving-or-touching-loose-impediments-or-sand-in-a-bunker.html

> > >

> > > He did not touch it with the intention of testing anything. He only touched it because he thought it was a rock.

> >

> > apparently doesn't matter ... it was sand, and you can't touch the sand ... he did what he should, but sometimes i think they should just shut up and not say anything about some of these situations ...

>

> It does matter in the link I posted if you read it. Which rule says you cannot touch the sand for any reason without incurring a 2 stroke penalty?

 

i'm not arguing against you ... just repeating what they said on tv ...

[straightshot7]

> @tiderider said:

> > @straightshot7 said:

> > > @tiderider said:

> > > > @straightshot7 said:

> > > > What am I missing? Reading this I don't understand why Rory was penalized: https://www.usga.org/content/usga/home-page/rules-hub/rules-modernization/major-changes/moving-or-touching-loose-impediments-or-sand-in-a-bunker.html

> > > >

> > > > He did not touch it with the intention of testing anything. He only touched it because he thought it was a rock.

> > >

> > > apparently doesn't matter ... it was sand, and you can't touch the sand ... he did what he should, but sometimes i think they should just shut up and not say anything about some of these situations ...

> >

> > It does matter in the link I posted if you read it. Which rule says you cannot touch the sand for any reason without incurring a 2 stroke penalty?

>

> i'm not arguing against you ... just repeating what they said on tv ...

 

Yeah I'm not trying to argue either. But I don't care what they said on TV. Because the rule I posted says it is not a penalty unless he was testing the condition. Which he wasn't.

 

So i was asking for the rule that contradicted that. Some rules expert on here must know. I guess I'll head to the rules section.

[snizzle]

FWIW of the 125 players that qualified for this tournament:

4 didn't play

3 WD

85 of the remaining 118 made the cut

[Krt22]

> @straightshot7 said:

> > @tiderider said:

> > > @straightshot7 said:

> > > > @tiderider said:

> > > > > @straightshot7 said:

> > > > > What am I missing? Reading this I don't understand why Rory was penalized: https://www.usga.org/content/usga/home-page/rules-hub/rules-modernization/major-changes/moving-or-touching-loose-impediments-or-sand-in-a-bunker.html

> > > > >

> > > > > He did not touch it with the intention of testing anything. He only touched it because he thought it was a rock.

> > > >

> > > > apparently doesn't matter ... it was sand, and you can't touch the sand ... he did what he should, but sometimes i think they should just shut up and not say anything about some of these situations ...

> > >

> > > It does matter in the link I posted if you read it. Which rule says you cannot touch the sand for any reason without incurring a 2 stroke penalty?

> >

> > i'm not arguing against you ... just repeating what they said on tv ...

>

> Yeah I'm not trying to argue either. But I don't care what they said on TV. Because the rule I posted says it is not a penalty unless he was testing the condition. Which he wasn't.

>

> So i was asking for the rule that contradicted that. Some rules expert on here must know. I guess I'll head to the rules section.

 

I would say you are right. The rule is you cannot intentionally ground your club and/or test the condition. You are allowed to remove rocks and there is no penalty for inadvertently touching the sand. Given his intent was to remove a rock, the touching of the sand then was inadvertent and IMHO should not be subject to a penalty.

[golfnoob25]

They rescinded the penalty

[straightshot7]

> @Krt22 said:

> > @straightshot7 said:

> > > @tiderider said:

> > > > @straightshot7 said:

> > > > > @tiderider said:

> > > > > > @straightshot7 said:

> > > > > > What am I missing? Reading this I don't understand why Rory was penalized: https://www.usga.org/content/usga/home-page/rules-hub/rules-modernization/major-changes/moving-or-touching-loose-impediments-or-sand-in-a-bunker.html

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He did not touch it with the intention of testing anything. He only touched it because he thought it was a rock.

> > > > >

> > > > > apparently doesn't matter ... it was sand, and you can't touch the sand ... he did what he should, but sometimes i think they should just shut up and not say anything about some of these situations ...

> > > >

> > > > It does matter in the link I posted if you read it. Which rule says you cannot touch the sand for any reason without incurring a 2 stroke penalty?

> > >

> > > i'm not arguing against you ... just repeating what they said on tv ...

> >

> > Yeah I'm not trying to argue either. But I don't care what they said on TV. Because the rule I posted says it is not a penalty unless he was testing the condition. Which he wasn't.

> >

> > So i was asking for the rule that contradicted that. Some rules expert on here must know. I guess I'll head to the rules section.

>

> I would say you are right. The rule is you cannot intentionally ground your club and/or test the condition. You are allowed to remove rocks and there is no penalty for inadvertently touching the sand. Given his intent was to remove a rock, the touching of the sand then was inadvertent and IMHO should not be subject to a penalty.

 

Exactly. The only thing I can think of is that they may have deemed he improved his lie and therefore penalized him under rule 13-2.

 

But to say he improved his lie or the path of his swing by touching a tiny clump of sand seems like a stretch.

[MountainGoat]

> @tiderider said:

> no middle finger?

 

Loved the middle finger.

[JD3]

> @golfnoob25 said:

> They rescinded the penalty

 

Good. Sounds like maybe official didn't know the updated rule

[bscinstnct]

Nice leaderboard. Watched none of this so far but should be good viewing on the weekend. I should go there but....

 

I got a new bicycle!

 

Never thought I’d be db cycle guy but it’s pretty dope.

[Darth Putter]

Update on the Rory situation

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/rory-mcilroy-goes-to-pick-up-stone-in-bunker-realizes-its-clump-of-sand-and-gets-two-stroke-penalty

 

Top 10 includes DJ, Spieth, Reed, Rahm, Rose and Rory.

 

There is NO MDF this week even with 85 making the cut.

 

 

[Darth Putter]

> @bscinstnct said:

> Nice leaderboard. Watched none of this so far but should be good viewing on the weekend. I should go there but....

>

> I got a new bicycle!

>

> Never thought I’d be db cycle guy but it’s pretty dope.

 

looks very nice

 


 

[Titleist_PT23]

> @flushem said:

> Let's see if LV is right on this.

>

>

> The Northern Trust updated

>

> D Johnson 9/2

> J Rahm 6/1

> R McIlroy 6/1

> J Rose 10/1

> W Simpson 14/1

> J Thomas 16/1

> T Finau 20/1

> T Merritt 25/1

> K Kisner 30/1

> P Reed 30/1

> J Spieth 40/1

> B Koepka 40/1

> C Reavie 50/1

> B DeChambeau 50/1

> T Fleetwood 50/1

> A Scott 60/1

> R Fowler 60/1

The spread between DJ and Spieth is too wide. DJ hasn't exactly been great at closing out opportunities this year. I know Spieth's 3rd and 4th round scoring but he's gonna hold it together eventually.