2019 Northern Trust @ Liberty National, NJ

[OldTomMorris]

Jason Day, Rickie Fowler, Xander Schauffele, Matt Kuchar, Bubba Watson, Sergio Garcia all MC.

Season is over for Bubba and its looks likely the same fate for Segio.

[Krt22]

> @lowheel said:

> "as soon as i touched it "

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Exactly. As determined by the PGA tour officials, that was precisely the moment when a penalty did not occur. Profound evidence you have presented though, extremely compelling.

[OldTomMorris]

USGA were consulted over the ruling too and the lack of intent was the reasoning for it not being a penalty.

[OldTomMorris]

Grillo missed by one but if he had made this putt he'd have been in for the weekend.

 

"He's gonna miss the cut...so it's...you can't DO THAT."

https://twitter.com/Skratch/status/1159955676040482821

[OldTomMorris]

Jordan playing well and competing at the top end of the leaderboard makes tournament golf more exciting so for that reason alone I hope he has a good weekend.

DJ looks the most likely winner.

[15th Club]

“A ruling was changed after the round due to a star player lobbying!! ”

 

Is “bullshit” a term we are allowed to use in the GolfWRX forums?

[15th Club]

I guess not.

[elwhippy]

Rules issues aside why do they use this venue? It looks artificial and is cramped into a poor plot of land. Take away the proximity to New York and nobody would give it a look. There must be 50 great courses in the area who could take this event.

[the bishop]

> @lowheel said:

> > @kthomas said:

> > > @lowheel said:

> > > > @straightshot7 said:

> > > > > @lowheel said:

> > > > > > @straightshot7 said:

> > > > > > Rory got a 2 stroke penalty for that? Harsh.

> > > > > > What if you have your caddie move the stones? Same rules apply?

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> > > > > its the rule. If theres doubt you dont touch it.I dont agree with it being 2 shots nor do i agree with it being rescinded after the round. Faldo was wrong about there not being any advantage gained. He admitted to removing a tuft of sand directly behind the ball he thought was a pebble.By definition it improved his lie. I take him at his word that he thought it was a pebble but thems the breaks. Should be 1 shot and try to recreate the lie to make it fair to his competitors/field.

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> > > > No he didn't admit to removing anything. He said he touched it and then let go when he realized it wasn't a rock.

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> > > > He even pointed it out to the official as if it was still there.

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> > > He did though, it disintegrated in his finger hence not there anymore.He was making the best case for himself not being penalized which i understand...

> > > Go rub your finger behind your ball in a bunker and remove/brush a little sand.it improves your lie. its not debatable. they rescinded because of "intent"

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> > It didn't improve the lie, and it's not against the rules - obviously the PGA doesn't think it's against the rules either after they rescinded it.

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> A ruling was changed after the round due to a star player lobbying!! color me shocked. If it didnt improve hislie why bother attempting to remove the non existing pebble.Some critical thinking is needed.

> A "pebble" sticks out of the sand so by definition he cant make as clear contact with the ball so he bends over touches that spot which turns out to be sand so that obviously gets flattened allowing more of the ball to show aka improving the lie. i think the 2 shot penalty is too harsh in this scenario however the penalty was warranted and Rory did the right thing by reporting it to the official. Were allowed to disagree with the rules and officials.Im doing both at the same time

 

If it was not a star player would it have been ok to lobby? A player, any player, is allowed to challenge a ruling. After listening to the player and PGA rules officials the USGA agreed the penalty should be rescinded. And yes I read the rule. I respect you on this board and generally enjoy reading your posts. I just disagree with your interpretation here.

[d1bound]

Holy crap this is painful

 

[MountainGoat]

> @d1bound said:

> Holy crap this is painful

Reminds me of a Sports Illustrated article many, many years ago that posted frame by frame photos of Jack taking 3:20 to hit a putt.

 

 

[spk7]

> @tiderider said:

> course isn't ranked all that high (tough being a course in new jersey rankings), but those views ...

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It may not be the most prestigious course but for me it’s up there on my list for most desired places to play

 

[spk7]

> @OldTomMorris said:

> USGA were consulted over the ruling too and the lack of intent was the reasoning for it not being a penalty.

The way Rory handled it was top notch

 

[Ronnie Mundt]

DeShamSlow is basically cheating. I’m starting to think it is borderline schtick at this point, as in, how can he be the “mad scientist” of golf if he gets up and hits his putt in 30 seconds like most normal golfers? Is he purposely trying to be the most hated guy on Tour?

[gvogel]

> @spk7 said:

> > @OldTomMorris said:

> > USGA were consulted over the ruling too and the lack of intent was the reasoning for it not being a penalty.

> The way Rory handled it was top notch

>

 

Rory and Louis O play together today. I like Rory's swing, but Louis' is sublime. It hardly looks like he is trying to hit the ball. Great athletes make their games look easy, and no one does it better than Louis O.

 

[jmck]

> @d1bound said:

> Holy crap this is painful

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Rory and Koepka are right. Long past time to start handing out stroke penalties for that sort of garbage. They'd been on the clock for a few holes at that point. Enough with the warnings, and forget fines, which mean nothing considering what these guys make.

 

If you haven't clicked on that twitter thread it's worth it just to hear Eddie Pepperell chime in. Rich Beem and Luke Donald too. Beemer is *pissed* lol.

[imakaveli]

> @elwhippy said:

> Rules issues aside why do they use this venue? It looks artificial and is cramped into a poor plot of land. Take away the proximity to New York and nobody would give it a look. There must be 50 great courses in the area who could take this event.

 

What do you think? ?

[imakaveli]

> @jmck said:

> > @d1bound said:

> > Holy crap this is painful

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> Rory and Koepka are right. Long past time to start handing out stroke penalties for that sort of garbage. They'd been on the clock for a few holes at that point. Enough with the warnings, and forget fines, which mean nothing considering what these guys make.

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> If you haven't clicked on that twitter thread it's worth it just to hear Eddie Pepperell chime in. Rich Beem and Luke Donald too. Beemer is *pissed* lol.

 

They will probably do something when Tiger will retire. Till that day they will just act like there is no problem.

[jmck]

> @imakaveli said:

> > @jmck said:

> > > @d1bound said:

> > > Holy crap this is painful

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> > >

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> > Rory and Koepka are right. Long past time to start handing out stroke penalties for that sort of garbage. They'd been on the clock for a few holes at that point. Enough with the warnings, and forget fines, which mean nothing considering what these guys make.

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> > If you haven't clicked on that twitter thread it's worth it just to hear Eddie Pepperell chime in. Rich Beem and Luke Donald too. Beemer is *pissed* lol.

>

> They will probably do something when Tiger will retire. Till that day they will just act like there is no problem.

 

Didn't he retire after Augusta?

[imakaveli]

> @jmck said:

> > @imakaveli said:

> > > @jmck said:

> > > > @d1bound said:

> > > > Holy crap this is painful

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> > > >

> > >

> > > Rory and Koepka are right. Long past time to start handing out stroke penalties for that sort of garbage. They'd been on the clock for a few holes at that point. Enough with the warnings, and forget fines, which mean nothing considering what these guys make.

> > >

> > > If you haven't clicked on that twitter thread it's worth it just to hear Eddie Pepperell chime in. Rich Beem and Luke Donald too. Beemer is *pissed* lol.

> >

> > They will probably do something when Tiger will retire. Till that day they will just act like there is no problem.

>

> Didn't he retire after Augusta?

 

Nope

[Ronnie Mundt]

There is no “rule” against what DeShamSlow did in that video if he can take 2.5 minutes to hit an 8 foot putt after being on the clock for 6 holes. I think the idiots that run the tour should just come out and say there isn’t a rule against it because it doesn’t seem that there is.

[Ignatius Reilly]

> @spk7 said:

> > @OldTomMorris said:

> > USGA were consulted over the ruling too and the lack of intent was the reasoning for it not being a penalty.

> The way Rory handled it was top notch

>

 

Right from the start - he's the one who brought it to the attention of the referee in the first place - he was all class in how he handled it. Made his case and accepted the decision.

 

It's a shame (unbelievable, actually) that the Referee on course with Rory AND Slugger White both got it wrong. Especially since they went to such great effort to revamp and simplify the rules this year. This cannot continue to happen.

 

As for the tourney itself, it's great to see Spieth looking so good again.

[jmck]

> @imakaveli said:

> > @jmck said:

> > > @imakaveli said:

> > > > @jmck said:

> > > > > @d1bound said:

> > > > > Holy crap this is painful

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > Rory and Koepka are right. Long past time to start handing out stroke penalties for that sort of garbage. They'd been on the clock for a few holes at that point. Enough with the warnings, and forget fines, which mean nothing considering what these guys make.

> > > >

> > > > If you haven't clicked on that twitter thread it's worth it just to hear Eddie Pepperell chime in. Rich Beem and Luke Donald too. Beemer is *pissed* lol.

> > >

> > > They will probably do something when Tiger will retire. Till that day they will just act like there is no problem.

> >

> > Didn't he retire after Augusta?

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> Nope

 

Huh. Well you learn something new everyday I suppose.

 

In all seriousness though, that Bryson stuff......There's no way that isn't creating a competitive disadvantage for at least his playing partners, if not all the groups waiting behind.

[bscinstnct]

> @jmck said:

> > @imakaveli said:

> > > @jmck said:

> > > > @d1bound said:

> > > > Holy crap this is painful

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > Rory and Koepka are right. Long past time to start handing out stroke penalties for that sort of garbage. They'd been on the clock for a few holes at that point. Enough with the warnings, and forget fines, which mean nothing considering what these guys make.

> > >

> > > If you haven't clicked on that twitter thread it's worth it just to hear Eddie Pepperell chime in. Rich Beem and Luke Donald too. Beemer is *pissed* lol.

> >

> > They will probably do something when Tiger will retire. Till that day they will just act like there is no problem.

>

> Didn't he retire after Augusta?

 

He part time ; )

 

And they didn’t do anything after jack retired and he was far more “deliberate” than TW.

 

I’ve never even heard that TW is that slow. Here he is on the subject,

 

“Woods seemed resigned to little happening. He said he knows of players who will purposely play slow when grouped with a slower player -- hoping to get put on the clock so the entire group is forced to speed up.

 

"What about the guys behind them and the logjam that creates," Woods said. "We've been fighting that for, God, ever since I grew up watching the game, guys were complaining about slow play. We can only go as fast as the group in front of us goes."

 

[jmck]

Part time, eh? Man that's good work if you can get it.

[JD3]

> @d1bound said:

> Holy crap this is painful

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Got the pace and line wrong too

[carrier street]

> @d1bound said:

> Holy crap this is painful

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I made it 1:25 before I yelled "OH COME THE EFF ON" at my computer. This is insanity.

[carrier street]

> @JD3 said:

> > @d1bound said:

> > Holy crap this is painful

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> Got the pace and line wrong too

 

 

I would like to congratulate you on winning the internet today.

[idrive]

> @d1bound said:

> Holy crap this is painful

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There is NO WAY I'm going to start my day by watching that. Absurdity and Golf should not belong in the same sentence.

[legitimategolf]

Whoa, Jordan is like a phoenix, rising from Arizona!