2019 BMW Championship

[bscinstnct]

> @straightshot7 said:

> Omg how does the crowd not stop Tiger's ball there? Do your job.

>

> And then whoever's stuff that is against the tree, I think bouncing off that made the lie worse. If that stuff wasn't there the ball may have gone clear past the tree. Get your stuff off the course people! Go back to your shanties!

>

> Edit: Tiger hit a great pitch to 4 feet and made birdie so all is forgiven, for now.

 

Can’t watch now! Rip off. Just trying to follow TTracker.

 

Realistically what does he need todayto make it to the TC

 

 

[OldTomMorris]

Supposedly Tiger needs a top 6 finish so that isn't happening. His season is over after this round.

[Mr. Grumpy]

> @OldTomMorris said:

> Supposedly Tiger needs a top 6 finish so that isn't happening. His season is over after this round.

 

Yeah, not happening, but good year..

[gvogel]

JT looks shaky. Stranger things have happened....

 

BTW, I like JT.

[MattyO1984]

> @jmck said:

> > @MattyO1984 said:

> > In the past 5 seasons, JT has 7 rounds of 62 or better. The next nearest players have 4. Pretty interesting stat that Sky pulled up earlier.

>

> That is interesting, but it's also a great example of a stat that doesn't tell the whole story. What was par? What was the rest of the field doing? You'd have to go through and pull that info for every round before drawing a conclusion that JT's A game is the best on the planet or whatever.

>

> 62 on a par 70 isn't as good as 63 on a par 72. Likewise, 62 on a day when the field averages 69 isn't as good as a 64 on a day when the field averages 73.

>

> And why cut it off at 62? What does it look like if you use 63 instead? What if (just making up some numbers here) someone else has 50 rounds at 63 or better but only 4 at 62 or better, while JT only has 25 rounds at 63 or better, despite having 7 at 62 or better? Or what if you use 61 or 60 as the cut off? Maybe one of the guys with 4 rounds at "62 or better" has nothing but 59s and 60s while all 7 of JT's "62 or better" rounds are 61s and 62s? On and on.

 

Or what if you don’t do any of that and just take note of it.

 

[MattyO1984]

> @gvogel said:

> JT looks shaky. Stranger things have happened....

>

> BTW, I like JT.

 

He hasn’t looked great so far today but looking like he is level through 5 holes and sitting with a 5 shot lead.

[bscinstnct]

Tigerrrrr!

 

Shirt be like

 

[straightshot7]

> @bscinstnct said:

> > @straightshot7 said:

> > Omg how does the crowd not stop Tiger's ball there? Do your job.

> >

> > And then whoever's stuff that is against the tree, I think bouncing off that made the lie worse. If that stuff wasn't there the ball may have gone clear past the tree. Get your stuff off the course people! Go back to your shanties!

> >

> > Edit: Tiger hit a great pitch to 4 feet and made birdie so all is forgiven, for now.

>

> Can’t watch now! Rip off. Just trying to follow TTracker.

>

> Realistically what does he need todayto make it to the TC

>

>

 

Realistically he has no chance now. Because he's playing like crap.

[jmck]

> @MattyO1984 said:

> > @jmck said:

> > > @MattyO1984 said:

> > > In the past 5 seasons, JT has 7 rounds of 62 or better. The next nearest players have 4. Pretty interesting stat that Sky pulled up earlier.

> >

> > That is interesting, but it's also a great example of a stat that doesn't tell the whole story. What was par? What was the rest of the field doing? You'd have to go through and pull that info for every round before drawing a conclusion that JT's A game is the best on the planet or whatever.

> >

> > 62 on a par 70 isn't as good as 63 on a par 72. Likewise, 62 on a day when the field averages 69 isn't as good as a 64 on a day when the field averages 73.

> >

> > And why cut it off at 62? What does it look like if you use 63 instead? What if (just making up some numbers here) someone else has 50 rounds at 63 or better but only 4 at 62 or better, while JT only has 25 rounds at 63 or better, despite having 7 at 62 or better? Or what if you use 61 or 60 as the cut off? Maybe one of the guys with 4 rounds at "62 or better" has nothing but 59s and 60s while all 7 of JT's "62 or better" rounds are 61s and 62s? On and on.

>

> Or what if you don’t do any of that and just take note of it.

>

 

I don’t give a crap one way or another, but there are people here quoting that stat as proof positive that objectively—as a certain and for sure fact—JT has the best A game on tour. My point is that as far as stats go it’s pretty useless. At least without doing significantly more digging. And I personally have zero interest in doing that digging.

[OldTomMorris]

JT hit a few shockers yesterday but got away with them which seems remarkable in a round of 61 but he's hit a few today starting with his opening tee shot. The second shot on 10 was truly awful.

Could get interesting.

[BobMorris]

> @jmck said:

 

> I don’t give a crap one way or another, but there are people here quoting that stat as proof positive that objectively—as a certain and for sure fact—JT has the best A game on tour. My point is that as far as stats go it’s pretty useless. At least without doing significantly more digging. And I personally have zero interest in doing that digging.

 

I agree. So few players bring their actual 'A' game....and I doubt many here would truly know it if they saw it anyway. I'd be more interested in who's got the best 'C' game. Because that's the one that likely shows up the majority of the time. The great ones are able to still make a score when they're actually fishing out there.

[BobMorris]

As it almost always happens when it appears the outcome is certain, it is now getting interesting.

[SwooshLT]

> @tiderider said:

> > @" SwooshLT" said:

> > > @tiderider said:

> > > > @" SwooshLT" said:

> > > > > @00steven said:

> > > > > Justin Thomas is the most dangerous player when he’s on.

> > > >

> > > > I thought that was Rory?

> > >

> > > JT's "on" has a better putter/short game/short iron game than rory's "on" ...

> >

> > Kinda matter of opinion, no? RORS driver ,when on shrinks courses....no matter impressive play by JT

>

> since jt's had more low scores, i'd suggest it is not opinion ... rory's 'on' largely involves splitting fairways with 350 yd drives, but he's shown time and again he can't necessarily take advantage of those drives with any kind of superior wedge play ... or putting ... his "A" game is his driver ... JT's irons yesterday were fabulous, every one of them just about ...

 

I guess running away with a few majors doesn't count for much....... yeah Rory's A is pretty stale in comparison

[SwooshLT]

> @BobMorris said:

> > @" SwooshLT" said:

> > > @BobMorris said:

> > > > @" SwooshLT" said:

> > > > > @tiderider said:

> > > > > > @" SwooshLT" said:

> > > > > > > @00steven said:

> > > > > > > Justin Thomas is the most dangerous player when he’s on.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I thought that was Rory?

> > > > >

> > > > > JT's "on" has a better putter/short game/short iron game than rory's "on" ...

> > > >

> > > > Kinda matter of opinion, no? RORS driver ,when on shrinks courses..

> > >

> > > ...sort of like how the hole appears to shrink whenever Rory putts.

> >

> > Oh ye of short memories

>

> Not talking about what he did in his younger days when he could actually putt well on a consistent basis. He's an average putter now, at best. He looks stiff and uncomfortable over the ball....like he knows he's gonna miss. Of course, like anyone who plays golf knows, they'll be days when you can't miss....and he has those too. But he's no longer a consistently good putter. Combine that with a ho-hum wedge game, and you have what you see.

 

What I've seen has been far better than JT this year

[SwooshLT]

 

 

So Mr A only has 5 top 10s while Rory has 13 of 17 .....along with overall better numbers .....so whilst JT has the occasional lower score , Rory's A game seems to show far more often

 

[BobMorris]

> @" SwooshLT" said:

> > @BobMorris said:

> > > @" SwooshLT" said:

> > > > @BobMorris said:

> > > > > @" SwooshLT" said:

> > > > > > @tiderider said:

> > > > > > > @" SwooshLT" said:

> > > > > > > > @00steven said:

> > > > > > > > Justin Thomas is the most dangerous player when he’s on.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I thought that was Rory?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > JT's "on" has a better putter/short game/short iron game than rory's "on" ...

> > > > >

> > > > > Kinda matter of opinion, no? RORS driver ,when on shrinks courses..

> > > >

> > > > ...sort of like how the hole appears to shrink whenever Rory putts.

> > >

> > > Oh ye of short memories

> >

> > Not talking about what he did in his younger days when he could actually putt well on a consistent basis. He's an average putter now, at best. He looks stiff and uncomfortable over the ball....like he knows he's gonna miss. Of course, like anyone who plays golf knows, they'll be days when you can't miss....and he has those too. But he's no longer a consistently good putter. Combine that with a ho-hum wedge game, and you have what you see.

>

> What I've seen has been far better than JT this year

 

Not sure I remember mentioning JT.

[OldBridge]

Pretty amazing that Cantlay has only won two tournaments in his career thus far. He's been on the first page of a lot of leaderboards.

[mukster]

 

[OldTomMorris]

> @OldBridge said:

> Pretty amazing that Cantlay has only won two tournaments in his career thus far. He's been on the first page of a lot of leaderboards.

 

Missed a lot of golf thru injury. Only played 83 PGA Tour events that includes a bunch of starts as an amateur.

[BobMorris]

Lucas Glover is doing his level best to have next week off.

[the bishop]

> @bscinstnct said:

> Tigerrrrr!

>

> Shirt be like

>

>

 

With those colors I was thinking more Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers

 

[buckeye440]

Congrats to JT. Good to see him back on top. Hopefully he can compete in the majors next year.

[Stanks]

So we won't see Tiger again until the Presidents Cup? Damn it. Looking forward to the Koepka, Hideki, Rickie show.

[imakaveli]

Good for JT. How many weeks till Augusta?

[tiderider]

somehow, we've got to work this into the thread:


 

[Darth Putter]

President's Cup qualifiers

 

Captain's picks are due first week of November.

[bscinstnct]

> @"the bishop" said:

> > @bscinstnct said:

> > Tigerrrrr!

> >

> > Shirt be like

> >

> >

>

> With those colors I was thinking more Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers

>

 

This was the best

 

 

Ah well, TW done for the year.

 

But, what a year ; )

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Darth Putter]

For Justin Thomas that is tour win #10.

He will move up to #5 in the OWGR.

Ten wins and a major ties him with Justin Rose, Sergio Garcia and Steve Elkington among others.

 

Only four players in the last forty years have ten wins before turning 27: Thomas, Woods McIlroy and Spieth.

 

 

Matt Kuchar becomes the eighth player ever to win $50,000,000 on the PGA Tour.

[BobMorris]

> @bscinstnct said:

> > @"the bishop" said:

> > > @bscinstnct said:

> > > Tigerrrrr!

> > >

> > > Shirt be like

> > >

> > >

> >

> > With those colors I was thinking more Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers

> >

>

> This was the best

>

>

>

> Ah well, TW done for the year.

>

> But, what a year ; )

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

More like....what a week.

[beluga99]

> @bscinstnct said:

> > @"the bishop" said:

> > > @bscinstnct said:

> > > Tigerrrrr!

> > >

> > > Shirt be like

> > >

> > >

> >

> > With those colors I was thinking more Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers

> >

>

> This was the best

>

>

>

> Ah well, TW done for the year.

>

> But, what a year ; )

>

>

>

>

 

>

 

I think you got ripped off with that opening. Same show, but this opening is "2000 Tiger".