Matt Every Suspended After Testing Positive

[Murphy76]

Sometimes I wonder about the PGA's motivations behind banning certain substances.

 

How much of their rationale is is to protect the integrity of the game, versus the image of the game. Do they really care if someone has a performance advantage, or do they really care about the Tour not having a bad image of a bunch of drugged out players. Or both?

 

Personally, I'm a hypocrite. I am against using PED's to gain a playing advantage, but don't care one bit if a player smokes pot or shoots heroin in their off-time.

 

If a pro golfer wants to get f'd up off the course and doesn't hurt anyone, I do not care one bit. I do not think less of them, and wish them the best. Granted, they most likely won't perform as well when game-time comes around, but that's their choice.

 

As for them being 'role-models', I don't buy it. Their job is to play golf. Will they make more money from sponsors by appearing to be a wholesome Christian? Of course. But, I don't think it is fair for an athlete to be expected to be a god of purity and virtue. of A kids' role-model should be someone in their life (like their father), not some doofus on TV.

[MattyO1984]

I love how Every is a banned for it as this time of year. Genuinely seems like they have looked at it and thought, right we need to take a stance on this (even though our stance is going to be ridiculous), lets ban the guy over this stupid fall period when interest levels are negligible in any event.

[PowderedToastMan]

> @caniac6 said:

> Tiger gets absolutely hammered on prescribed medication, wrecks his car, and faces some legal issues, but I don't believe he faced anything from the Tour. It just doesn't seem right.

You’d be surprised by the idea that Tiger Woods lives by different rules than average folk? Have you been in a coma for the last 25 years?

 

 

[Fade]

I wonder which way it would go if they asked the PGA Tour pros to vote on whether or not it should remain banned or be allowed. I would guess it would remain banned, but what do I know.

[Hawkeye77]

> @snizzle said:

> > @"b.helts" said:

> > > @snizzle said:

> > > It's always the journeyman types that ends up taking the fall for these kinds of rule infractions. The PGA could care less about the likes of Matt Every. You can bet none of the big names on tour will bother to speak up for him either.

> >

> > DJ was suspended, by all accounts. You can’t really call him a journeyman.

> >

> > I don’t understand some of you.

>

> Forgot about it tbh but that was a time that he wasn't the star he is now. From all accounts DJ was apparently out of control w/ drugs and women back then.

 

He’d won 8 times and had reached 4 OWGR - he was a big star when he disappeared for a few months.

[Hawkeye77]

BTW, the article says medical MJ is available in Florida, Every didn’t say he came by his stash through whatever legal procedures he would need to follow. Either way, violates Tour policies, which track with Olympic policies and aren’t changing any time soon.

 

Edit: found a different article where he said it was prescribed but he was well aware of the Tour’s policies.

[Aaronwilson_95]

Regardless of stance , 1 year seams extremely excessive...

[b.helts]

> @Aaronwilson_95 said:

> Regardless of stance , 1 year seams extremely excessive...

 

I thought it was three months??

 

[lowheel]

theres a "florida man" meme to be made here

[cardoustie]

Funny how weed is such a problem for the tour ... but boozing isn't

[grm24]

> @Aaronwilson_95 said:

> Regardless of stance , 1 year seams extremely excessive...

 

Every is suspended for 12 weeks not months.

[Aaronwilson_95]

> @grm24 said:

> > @Aaronwilson_95 said:

> > Regardless of stance , 1 year seams extremely excessive...

>

> Every is suspended for 12 weeks not months.

 

My bad read his post on social media and picked up months for some reason not weeks!

[Man_O_War]

> @chuck_schalch said:

> He cant use marijuana medically but Scott Stallings can take testosterone and speak about it openly? Which is more of an advantage? What a joke

 

i can assure you marijuana is a better drug for golf than testosterone boosts of any kind lol

[Man_O_War]

he's been an open user for years...guess he was dodging bullets for a while.

[jallen0119]

> @Hankshank said:

> Do yo actually play better golf when groovy? What impact on the golf swing has marijuana? Scandinavians mainly drink a lot of booze and that does no good for scores(although I have played very well hole 20-22 after a refreshing hole 19). But weed And golf I do not know much about?

 

I've played better, I have played worse. I don't think it gives you any sort of competitive advantage. I will say this, I would rather play with a bunch of smokers as opposed to a bunch of guys crushing beers.

[Pepe8714]

> @cardoustie said:

> Funny how weed is such a problem for the tour ... but boozing isn't

 

Also funny how nobody seems to have a problem with ‘therapeutic exemption’ for many players taking stimulants (adderall, Ritalin, vuvanse) or benzos (Xanax Valium klonopin) DURING THE ROUNDS OF PLAY AT THE ACTUAL COMPETITION but god forbid a player does something off the course, unless it’s alcohol of course. See Steven bowditch etc

[Roadking2003]

> @jakenlson0311 said:

> A legit medical card is not legit at all. Since the federal government said its illegal, states don’t have the ability to make it legal. Even if you have a MD give you the green light to use it, your place of employment can still test for it.

 

Employers can test for anything, legal or illegal. I worked at a company that tested for tobacco.

 

The PGA Tour chooses (rather randomly, IMHO) what it will ban and legality has nothing to do with that choice.

 

[Hawkeye77]

Floyd Landis wants WADA to remove marijuana from its list, so there you are.

[golfandfishing]

> @Roadking2003 said:

> > @jakenlson0311 said:

> > A legit medical card is not legit at all. Since the federal government said its illegal, states don’t have the ability to make it legal. Even if you have a MD give you the green light to use it, your place of employment can still test for it.

>

> Employers can test for anything, legal or illegal. I worked at a company that tested for tobacco.

>

> The PGA Tour chooses (rather randomly, IMHO) what it will ban and legality has nothing to do with that choice.

>

 

I don’t there is any randomness to it - they follow the WADA procedures as part of the Olympic requirements.

 

[bladehunter]

> @Pepe8714 said:

> > @cardoustie said:

> > Funny how weed is such a problem for the tour ... but boozing isn't

>

> Also funny how nobody seems to have a problem with ‘therapeutic exemption’ for many players taking stimulants (adderall, Ritalin, vuvanse) or benzos (Xanax Valium klonopin) DURING THE ROUNDS OF PLAY AT THE ACTUAL COMPETITION but god forbid a player does something off the course, unless it’s alcohol of course. See Steven bowditch etc

 

Speak for yourself. I’m of the stance that such drugs should be only prescribed in the most extreme examples. Which would be low or non functioning folks in society. Way too many are on such and do it to just numb the edge of their issues rather than meet them and deal. I guarantee I’m a person with enough anxiety issues that I could get a prescription written for anything. But I refuse. People are always looking for the easy way. Take the hard road and fight , there’s no progress to be made while addled, only passing the time until death.

 

I could tell you of several cases of hard drug users that use these type drugs as crutches to get between court dates and pass tests. They say “ I’m good I’ve got a script for these “. And It’s all good.

[Vindog]

> @Man_O_War said:

> he's been an open user for years...guess he was dodging bullets for a while.

 

Right? My first thought was "Why now?"

[Christosterone]

Regardless of my personal opinion on the subject, marijuana is currently a banned substance.

 

There are myriad other avenues for him to research meds for whatever medical condition he is currently afflicted with a banned substance.

 

Simply find another avenue if you want to play on the PGA Tour. Case closed

 

-Chris

[Christosterone]

Sorry for the run on sentence and bad grammar but IPad speech to text can’t understand my hick accent and I hate editing my posts after the fact...

 

-Chris

[bigred90gt]

> @Christosterone said:

> Regardless of my personal opinion on the subject, marijuana is currently a banned substance.

>

> There are myriad other avenues for him to research meds for whatever medical condition he is currently afflicted with a banned substance.

>

> Simply find another avenue if you want to play on the PGA Tour. Case closed

>

> -Chris

 

While I can’t disagree with the notion of “it’s a banned substance and if you want to play on tour you can’t use it”, I am very much against having to find a man made chemical concoctions, doing god knows what to the body, to replace a natural substance that does the same thing without destroying the body in the process.

 

In my line of work, I cannot use pot so I am forced to take prescription drugs that in the long run will destroy my kidneys and liver. My other option is to live with rather debilitating pain that makes daily life quite miserable. But, I understand the requirements of my employer and play their game to maintain gainful employment.

[Hankshank]

> @jallen0119 said:

> > @Hankshank said:

> > Do yo actually play better golf when groovy? What impact on the golf swing has marijuana? Scandinavians mainly drink a lot of booze and that does no good for scores(although I have played very well hole 20-22 after a refreshing hole 19). But weed And golf I do not know much about?

>

> I've played better, I have played worse. I don't think it gives you any sort of competitive advantage. I will say this, I would rather play with a bunch of smokers as opposed to a bunch of guys crushing beers.

In the 80’s the on course drinking here in the center of scandinavia was rather substantial. My home course was quite close to a conference center. Guys from there would sneak off for golf and more than once I was paired wit guys that had their bags filled with southern scandinavian elephant beer... but somehow they behaved decently. Seems like another beer each 3rd or 2nd hole got them playing a little better.

You dont see much of that nowadays. Drinking has gone down everywhere here.

[musclefront]

> @Roadking2003 said:

> > @nichho said:

> > According to the BBC. There is very little information but it looks as as he took cannabis for medical purposes, apparently this is legal in Florida where he lives.

> >

> > https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/golf/50105419

>

> The tour pros should speak up in defense of Matt.

 

Yea right. No one would do this, they’re mainly right wing Christians stuck in the Middle Ages socially (at least that’s their public face) and wouldn’t want to risk their “reputations”

[Roadking2003]

> @golfandfishing said:

> > @Roadking2003 said:

> > > @jakenlson0311 said:

> > > A legit medical card is not legit at all. Since the federal government said its illegal, states don’t have the ability to make it legal. Even if you have a MD give you the green light to use it, your place of employment can still test for it.

> >

> > Employers can test for anything, legal or illegal. I worked at a company that tested for tobacco.

> >

> > The PGA Tour chooses (rather randomly, IMHO) what it will ban and legality has nothing to do with that choice.

> >

>

> I don’t there is any randomness to it - they follow the WADA procedures as part of the Olympic requirements.

>

 

So, random Olympic requirements.

[mizuno player]

> @bladehunter said:

> > @Pepe8714 said:

> > > @cardoustie said:

> > > Funny how weed is such a problem for the tour ... but boozing isn't

> >

> > Also funny how nobody seems to have a problem with ‘therapeutic exemption’ for many players taking stimulants (adderall, Ritalin, vuvanse) or benzos (Xanax Valium klonopin) DURING THE ROUNDS OF PLAY AT THE ACTUAL COMPETITION but god forbid a player does something off the course, unless it’s alcohol of course. See Steven bowditch etc

>

> Speak for yourself. I’m of the stance that such drugs should be only prescribed in the most extreme examples. Which would be low or non functioning folks in society. Way too many are on such and do it to just numb the edge of their issues rather than meet them and deal. I guarantee I’m a person with enough anxiety issues that I could get a prescription written for anything. But I refuse. People are always looking for the easy way. Take the hard road and fight , there’s no progress to be made while addled, only passing the time until death.

>

> I could tell you of several cases of hard drug users that use these type drugs as crutches to get between court dates and pass tests. They say “ I’m good I’ve got a script for these “. And It’s all good.

 

 

Everyone is different. Your assertion that all people are weak that use prescriptions to help is careless. You're lucky you can cope. Some can't. It does not make them inferior and you superior. Just different.

[bladehunter]

> @"mizuno player" said:

> > @bladehunter said:

> > > @Pepe8714 said:

> > > > @cardoustie said:

> > > > Funny how weed is such a problem for the tour ... but boozing isn't

> > >

> > > Also funny how nobody seems to have a problem with ‘therapeutic exemption’ for many players taking stimulants (adderall, Ritalin, vuvanse) or benzos (Xanax Valium klonopin) DURING THE ROUNDS OF PLAY AT THE ACTUAL COMPETITION but god forbid a player does something off the course, unless it’s alcohol of course. See Steven bowditch etc

> >

> > Speak for yourself. I’m of the stance that such drugs should be only prescribed in the most extreme examples. Which would be low or non functioning folks in society. Way too many are on such and do it to just numb the edge of their issues rather than meet them and deal. I guarantee I’m a person with enough anxiety issues that I could get a prescription written for anything. But I refuse. People are always looking for the easy way. Take the hard road and fight , there’s no progress to be made while addled, only passing the time until death.

> >

> > I could tell you of several cases of hard drug users that use these type drugs as crutches to get between court dates and pass tests. They say “ I’m good I’ve got a script for these “. And It’s all good.

>

>

> Everyone is different. Your assertion that all people are weak that use prescriptions to help is careless. You're lucky you can cope. Some can't. It does not make them inferior and you superior. Just different.

 

We will just agree to disagree on that. I typed a longer response and deleted it. In no way consider myself better than anyone else who truly has an issue they are struggling to work on. I do however know and abhor people who use these type drugs in a semi recreational manner. To escape reality . The amount of folks on one thing or another in this vein is unbelievable. And the vast majority have no clue what real anxiety is like. As in anxiety that has a rooted reason for being , through means of traumatic experiences etc .

 

 

But I agree on the different part. That’s for sure.

[golfho50]

> @"b.helts" said:

> > @snizzle said:

> > It's always the journeyman types that ends up taking the fall for these kinds of rule infractions. The PGA could care less about the likes of Matt Every. You can bet none of the big names on tour will bother to speak up for him either.

>

> DJ was suspended, by all accounts. You can’t really call him a journeyman.

>

> I don’t understand some of you.

 

DJ was using and testing positive for cocaine......multiple times.