Unpopular opinions...

[dakpery]

Any golfer not in the 70s doesn’t need to be playing brand new balls, or Pro V’s for that matter

[miamistomp]

 golf carts should only be used by the disabled

[bladehunter]

I have a new one.  That today’s modern long pants are not any hotter in the summer walking vs shorts.   Maybe it’s just me.  But I hate grass sticking to my sweaty legs.  Or in the rain.  I have flip flopped this summer , but last weekend walked 36 in our club championship, wearing pants in 96 degree heat.  Led the whole way  And then lost on 18. (T2) so obviously didn’t effect my play .   Never once felt like they were “ hot “.  ( under armour brand )  if anything I felt cooler via the shade.   

[chipa]

I wear pants too and don't have to worry about mosquitos so much like before.

[bladehunter]

Here’s another.  Today’s spikes do NOT afford the same grip in the wet  as metal spikes.    I’ve tried every brand.  And while the best don’t slide much . They still chew grass and slip on bare areas.  I ordered a set of stinger metal hybrid inserts to test on the range and it’s night and day.     I didn’t grow up playing golf.  So I’d never worn metal , and my curiosity just had to know why most pros still play champ hybrid metal on their shoes. I now know .  You don’t slide any. Not even in fairway bunkers.     I realize they are still illegal , and I can’t use them.  But just had to say.  We are missing out On traction. 

[bodhi555]

1 hour ago, bladehunter said:

I have a new one.  That today’s modern long pants are not any hotter in the summer walking vs shorts.   Maybe it’s just me.  But I hate grass sticking to my sweaty legs.  Or in the rain.  I have flip flopped this summer , but last weekend walked 36 in our club championship, wearing pants in 96 degree heat.  Led the whole way  And then lost on 18. (T2) so obviously didn’t effect my play .   Never once felt like they were “ hot “.  ( under armour brand )  if anything I felt cooler via the shade.   

 

I'd agree with this one - don't mind playing in shorts, but when you spend as long in the bushes, nettles and other wonders you find on the golf course as I do, a little protection on the legs is needed - and that's just on inland courses - add in gorse out on the links and I'm wearing 2 pairs ?

 

Played 36 at Hawkstone Park in the classic British muggy 30 degree heat wearing trousers, and was absolutely fine.

[Sixcat]

Lengthening golf courses, tightening fairways, making greens slick and growing up the rough is actually making length more important.  Thus, having the opposite effect of what is intended.

 

"It's a joke to try to Tiger-proof a golf course. Whatever you do, it's going to make it harder for the other golfers. But if they want some guidance, I'll tell them how: Cut all the rough, bring the tees up, let the greens run about 10 on the Stimpmeter and make it as easy as can be. Because then you'll bring a whole bunch of people into the competitions."  ~Earl Woods~

[ChaosTheory]

If you use a poker chip as a ball marker, you might as well just leave your ball on the green.

[North Butte]

4 hours ago, bladehunter said:

I have a new one.  That today’s modern long pants are not any hotter in the summer walking vs shorts.   Maybe it’s just me.  But I hate grass sticking to my sweaty legs.  Or in the rain.  I have flip flopped this summer , but last weekend walked 36 in our club championship, wearing pants in 96 degree heat.  Led the whole way  And then lost on 18. (T2) so obviously didn’t effect my play .   Never once felt like they were “ hot “.  ( under armour brand )  if anything I felt cooler via the shade.   

 

You're preaching to the choir as far as I'm concerned. Light colored, lightweight, breathable slacks are the most comfortable option for summertime golf. I guess people's opinions were set decades ago when "golf pants" meant heavy cotton khakis. 

 

I see guys wearing "cargo shorts" or similar that are made out of really heavy material and hang down over their knees. That has to be much hotter than the lightweight microfiber slacks I'm wearing but they're "shorts" so they are supposed to be comfortable.

[bladehunter]

2 hours ago, North Butte said:

 

You're preaching to the choir as far as I'm concerned. Light colored, lightweight, breathable slacks are the most comfortable option for summertime golf. I guess people's opinions were set decades ago when "golf pants" meant heavy cotton khakis. 

 

I see guys wearing "cargo shorts" or similar that are made out of really heavy material and hang down over their knees. That has to be much hotter than the lightweight microfiber slacks I'm wearing but they're "shorts" so they are supposed to be comfortable.

Exactly.  The only shorts I’ll wear are ones who’s Inseam is short enough that they hang way above the knee. Otherwise I’d just as soon wear a garbage bag as a skirt.  But you’d be surprised how many odd comments I get on long pants.  It really drives folks nuts for some reason.   

[North Butte]

3 minutes ago, bladehunter said:

Exactly.  The only shorts I’ll wear are ones who’s Inseam is short enough that they hang way above the knee. Otherwise I’d just as soon wear a garbage bag as a skirt.  But you’d be surprised how many odd comments I get on long pants.  It really drives folks nuts for some reason.   

 

A few weeks ago, a guy I played with was wearing shorts but a very nice looking, heavy fabric, dark burgundy colored golf shirt. By the end of the round I thought he was going to pass out.

 

When we were walking to the car he said about my long pants, "I don't see how you wear those, I'm in shorts and I'm dying here". 

[chippa13]

On 8/18/2020 at 12:17 PM, driveandputtmachine said:

Ladies tees and tee names should go away.  Handicap and driving distance should determine your tee.  I have seen a few courses that  lay it out this way.  If you cannot reach the majority of the par 4's with a 7/8/9 iron after an average drive you are playing the wrong tees. 

 

There is a guy that plays in my Friday group is 70, but refuses to play the "senior" tees, there are at least 6 par 4's he plays that he cannot reach in two.  He doesn't want to give up the two extra shots he gets to play the "senior" tees.  He plays fast and to his handicap most days so no one says anything, but I just don't understand.

If he isn't slowing anyone down and he's enjoying himself then why do you care?

[LeoLeo99]

On 8/19/2020 at 3:56 PM, North Butte said:

 

A few weeks ago, a guy I played with was wearing shorts but a very nice looking, heavy fabric, dark burgundy colored golf shirt. By the end of the round I thought he was going to pass out.

 

When we were walking to the car he said about my long pants, "I don't see how you wear those, I'm in shorts and I'm dying here". 

 

I have some friends that only play in pants.  Not me.  I've played in fancy golf pants after work.  Much cooler for me in shorts.  My friends don't seem to suffer in their pants so wear what you want.  

[dubbelbogey]

Most pro caddies don't wear long pants in hot weather. 

[North Butte]

13 minutes ago, LeoLeo99 said:

 

I have some friends that only play in pants.  Not me.  I've played in fancy golf pants after work.  Much cooler for me in shorts.  My friends don't seem to suffer in their pants so wear what you want.  

Well I'm not talking nice dress slacks. Mine are the UnderArmour ultra lightweight material. 

 

I would not want to do anything physically active in a pair of my wool blend dress slacks. 

[LeoLeo99]

Just now, North Butte said:

Well I'm not talking nice dress slacks. Mine are the UnderArmour ultra lightweight material. 

 

I would not want to do anything physically active in a pair of my wool blend dress slacks. 

 

I'm not talking worsted wool.  LOL.  I have ultra lightweight pants.  There's no air circulating.  But that's ok.  I'm not here to debate unpopular opinions.  Well, I guess I started the debate.  I can only tell you what I prefer.  

[Dash Boogie]

- 90% of tour players WITB photo features are boring

- Pre-scandal Tiger would never have agreed to the Monster Energy sponsorship

- very few recreational players need 14 clubs in their bags

[chippa13]

Pre-scandal Tiger had more endorsements than a NASCAR driver.

[harlequine]

15 hours ago, Dash Boogie said:

- 90% of tour players WITB photo features are boring

- Pre-scandal Tiger would never have agreed to the Monster Energy sponsorship

- very few recreational players need 14 clubs in their bags

 The last point is spot on. I think a half set in a lightweight carrybag is all that golfers need even low cappers!

[mantan]

I always love when this thread pops up.  Everybody seems annoyed at what other golfers do, but I bet they are 100% positive they are doing it 'the right way' and don't do things that get on other people's nerves..

[Boney]

Single-strap bags are better than double-strap. And two-wheeled pullcarts are better than 3- or 4-wheeled pushcarts.

[PuffyC]

- Unless you’re a plus or a pro, getting fit is largely a waste of time and money. Just demo a few clubs and go with what feels right.

 

- 3W is a waste of bag space. For most it’s no more accurate off the tee and even some pros struggle hitting it off the deck.

 

- Golf has way too many dumb rules, like OB and sharing advice. It’s time to review them all and inject a bit of common sense.

 

- Sand traps should be banned. They’re only a hazard to amateurs and they slow the game.

 

- Anyone breaking 100 can play blades and see little difference in score.

- The PGA Tour should play some events at average munis that aren’t manicured masterpieces. Let them chip from hardpan, hit from rough that hasn’t been mowed in months, and play in all kinds of nonsense that is never marked GUR.

 

- Helping a pro find their ball should be a 1 stroke penalty. As an amateur I don’t get help and suffer a penalty if I can’t find it. Should be the same for them.
 

- Related: On-course coaching (caddie advice) during a match should be illegal, just like in tennis. 

[erock9174]

On 8/20/2020 at 5:22 PM, chippa13 said:

If he isn't slowing anyone down and he's enjoying himself then why do you care?

Pace of play. If he played up and reaches in two that equals to less shots per round and quicker play. 

[dugue4]

2 hours ago, PuffyC said:

The PGA Tour should play some events at average munis that aren’t manicured masterpieces. Let them chip from hardpan, hit from rough that hasn’t been mowed in months, and play in all kinds of nonsense that is never marked GUR.

I'd watch that

[PuffyC]

On 8/19/2020 at 7:50 AM, bladehunter said:

Here’s another.  Today’s spikes do NOT afford the same grip in the wet  as metal spikes.    I’ve tried every brand.  And while the best don’t slide much . They still chew grass and slip on bare areas.  I ordered a set of stinger metal hybrid inserts to test on the range and it’s night and day.     I didn’t grow up playing golf.  So I’d never worn metal , and my curiosity just had to know why most pros still play champ hybrid metal on their shoes. I now know .  You don’t slide any. Not even in fairway bunkers.     I realize they are still illegal , and I can’t use them.  But just had to say.  We are missing out On traction. 

I grew up wearing metal spikes and don’t miss them, but then I currently don’t wear golf shoes because they’re all pretty terrible. Try a good trail running shoe instead, like the Salomon Speedcross 5 or Merrel MTL Long Sky. Way more comfortable, way more traction, and they won’t hurt greens.  I’ll never go back to wearing ‘golf’ shoes again.

[karstens_ghost]

On 8/21/2020 at 9:22 AM, chippa13 said:

If he isn't slowing anyone down and he's enjoying himself then why do you care?

Narrator: He was slowing everyone down.

[Motoboss]

3 hours ago, PuffyC said:

- The PGA Tour should play some events at average munis that aren’t manicured masterpieces. Let them chip from hardpan, hit from rough that hasn’t been mowed in months, and play in all kinds of nonsense that is never marked GUR.

 

- Helping a pro find their ball should be a 1 stroke penalty. As an amateur I don’t get help and suffer a penalty if I can’t find it. Should be the same for them.
 

 

These two! Amen.

[elwhippy]

Miura irons are forged in Vietnam and should cost buttons.

[2Down]

allignment lines on golf balls add to the length of a round.   

   

[bobfoster]

On 8/19/2020 at 8:44 AM, bladehunter said:

I have a new one.  That today’s modern long pants are not any hotter in the summer walking vs shorts.   Maybe it’s just me.  But I hate grass sticking to my sweaty legs.  Or in the rain.  I have flip flopped this summer , but last weekend walked 36 in our club championship, wearing pants in 96 degree heat.  Led the whole way  And then lost on 18. (T2) so obviously didn’t effect my play .   Never once felt like they were “ hot “.  ( under armour brand )  if anything I felt cooler via the shade.   

 

Agree 100%. When I first started playing (60s) everyone wore long pants. Was not only just understood to be part of the tradition of golf, it was actually explicitly required at almost all private courses, and many public ones . That certainly has relaxed over time, but I still always wear them. (Traditions have been gradually loosening for the last century - heck, in the 1920s a lot of the guys played with dress shirts and ties. No one today would even remotely conceive of playing golf in a tie.)

 

Tried shorts for about a year a couple decades ago. After one round that resulted in badly scratched calves (turns out trying to whack a ball that is next to a blackberry bush is a seriously unwise idea - but the RoG don't have exceptions for people in shorts), another round where I found a couple of ticks on my leg, and (finally) another round that left me with a nasty rash from what was probably poison ivy, the shorts got permanently retired. I consider long pants to be more like a piece of equipment than apparel. Wouldn't need them if I was always in the fairway, but even the top 10 on tour are not always in the fairway.

 

And I do love modern materials these days. Have mostly UA, Adidas, and Puma pants. The fabrics used for the summer ones are now incredibly light and airy, and very comfortable to wear. But surprisingly tough and resilient ... have no worries about thistles or high rough. And I find no difference in heat - don't seem to be any hotter than shorts.