Mizuno MP-22

[m_w]

Just now, Whatnogarnish said:

I can understand your point now. Thanks for posting the pics. Are the soles wider than the i59? I cant tell. 

 

The soles of the 223's have a grind/beveled edge towards the cavity. So the actual sole is slightly wider closer to the hosel and slightly narrower towards the toe vs. the i59's. Due to the beveled edge towards the cavity, there are some shots out there that make the sole look massive but it actually isn't.

[Whatnogarnish]

Any one have an idea when fitters will start seeing demos? 

[TomBomb51]

3 minutes ago, Whatnogarnish said:

Any one have an idea when fitters will start seeing demos? 

I checked in with my closest Club Champion (Rochester, NY) and they said they don't expect them till middle to late January, at the earliest.

[BostonWRX]

1 hour ago, m_w said:

Here are some comparison shots to the MP20 MMC

Did you ever play zx7? Guessing they are slightly longer blade length then the 223s? 

[QuigleyDU]

33 minutes ago, TomBomb51 said:

I checked in with my closest Club Champion (Rochester, NY) and they said they don't expect them till middle to late January, at the earliest.

Demos will hit shelves 12/6.

[Sniperman]

1 hour ago, m_w said:

Here are some comparison shots to the MP20 MMC

All I can say is THANK YOU for posting pics and providing your experience on these amazing looking irons!  I am so jealous that you already have them… Just based on your review, I’m 99% likely to order these.  I just hope Mizuno will be able to fulfill orders by then without the long wait

 

Or if you’re looking to sell… 😆

[m_w]

48 minutes ago, BostonWRX said:

Did you ever play zx7? Guessing they are slightly longer blade length then the 223s? 

I have - yes based on memory quite a bit longer 

[Sniperman]

2 hours ago, m_w said:

 

The soles of the 223's have a grind/beveled edge towards the cavity. So the actual sole is slightly wider closer to the hosel and slightly narrower towards the toe vs. the i59's. Due to the beveled edge towards the cavity, there are some shots out there that make the sole look massive but it actually isn't.

Based on your account, seems like 223 beats i59 on distance and forgiveness (which are two main things I look for in my game these days).  Would you say then that i59 is better in shot shaping?  

[m_w]

25 minutes ago, Sniperman said:

Based on your account, seems like 223 beats i59 on distance and forgiveness (which are two main things I look for in my game these days).  Would you say then that i59 is better in shot shaping?  

I’m not good enough to shot shape to a degree where I would notice the influence of an iron to be honest with you. I never had an issue hitting a fade or draw with an Apex’19 either. 
 

perhaps the offset plays a role for some - I believe the i59s have slightly less offset 

[PlayInTheRain]

@m_wYour photos are awesome and your explanations are clear. Thank you so much for the time and effort you've put into this.

 

I'm curious if your impression of the sound of the strike has changed much from your initial takes on a mat and after playing the clubs on turf. Are you still as impressed with the sound as you were initially?

[JourdanM]

 Spin numbers almost identical for Luke between 221 and 223 

[Mookie91]

15 hours ago, TomBomb51 said:

I checked in with my closest Club Champion (Rochester, NY) and they said they don't expect them till middle to late January, at the earliest.

Ugh Club Champion in Rochester never returned my fitting email last year.  Have you heard anything about Prestwick Golf?

[WKYTrooper]

Snagged this pic from Instagram. Forgiveness and forging but definitely not game improvement as some claimed. 

[Mp14forlife]

1 hour ago, WKYTrooper said:

Snagged this pic from Instagram. Forgiveness and forging but definitely not game improvement as some claimed. 

Just game improvement lofts. 

[Sniperman]

5 hours ago, JourdanM said:

 Spin numbers almost identical for Luke between 221 and 223 

I’m more curious whose Ping bag that is sitting in front of all the Mizzy bags!  😅

 

[sg91]

1 hour ago, Sniperman said:

I’m more curious whose Ping bag that is sitting in front of all the Mizzy bags!  😅

 

Matt Fryer, the YouTuber

[BigPete]

1 hour ago, Sniperman said:

I’m more curious whose Ping bag that is sitting in front of all the Mizzy bags!  😅

 

YouTuber Matt Fryer was there the same day. It’s his. You’d have thought they’d move it out of shot for an official video eh? 
 

[m_w]

10 hours ago, PlayInTheRain said:

@m_wYour photos are awesome and your explanations are clear. Thank you so much for the time and effort you've put into this.

 

I'm curious if your impression of the sound of the strike has changed much from your initial takes on a mat and after playing the clubs on turf. Are you still as impressed with the sound as you were initially?

 

Hasn't changed. My setup at home is outside so I don't have the typical indoor/outdoor difference.

[BostonWRX]

14 minutes ago, m_w said:

 

Hasn't changed. My setup at home is outside so I don't have the typical indoor/outdoor difference.

Any on course review?

[m_w]

1 hour ago, BostonWRX said:

Any on course review?

Yes, few posts up

[BostonWRX]

18 minutes ago, m_w said:

Yes, few posts up

Thanks just saw. Is the 223 standard lofts for that much distance gain?

[JourdanM]

37 minutes ago, BostonWRX said:

Thanks just saw. Is the 223 standard lofts for that much distance gain?

I believe it's a 32* 7 iron 

[BostonWRX]

8 minutes ago, JourdanM said:

I believe it's a 32* 7 iron 

Yeah was curious if he bent them +\-

[m_w]

5-PW here are my lofts: 

25

28

32

36

40.5

45

[4TheKing614]

11 hours ago, m_w said:

5-PW here are my lofts: 

25

28

32

36

40.5

45

Are you familiar with srixon? I play the 785. Wondering if they would be a huge jump or lateral? 
I’m also trying to understand why mizuno would make them the same size as the 921 tour?

[BostonWRX]

12 hours ago, m_w said:

5-PW here are my lofts: 

25

28

32

36

40.5

45

Not sure if you had issues with Mizunos digging in the past but did you find these dug less?

[m_w]

1 hour ago, 4TheKing614 said:

Are you familiar with srixon? I play the 785. Wondering if they would be a huge jump or lateral? 
I’m also trying to understand why mizuno would make them the same size as the 921 tour?

Very different sole design. I think the 785s are a slightly bigger club. I’ve only ever played the ZX7 thou. 
 

I think the 223s are going to offer more forgiveness and spin more. Length should be pretty close. 

 

35 minutes ago, BostonWRX said:

Not sure if you had issues with Mizunos digging in the past but did you find these dug less?

 

i never had an issue with digging. I think the only thing I noticed in the past was how they wouldn’t exit as cleanly as I.e the T100. With the new beveled edge, I think it’s gotten better. I very much like the turf interaction of the 223s. But remember I’m only 27 holes in. I’ll make sure to provide an update if impressions change significantly once I’ve played more 

[4TheKing614]

2 minutes ago, m_w said:

Very different sole design. I think the 785s are a slightly bigger club. I’ve only ever played the ZX7 thou. 
 

I think the 223s are going to offer more forgiveness and spin more. Length should be pretty close. 

 

 

I need more spin and better turf interaction. I’m a sweeper. Pretty shallow. I can’t imagine them being more forgiving then the srixon? These are the ones i wanted to work the most. It isn’t a huge jump from the srixon though?

[booty4]

On 11/15/2021 at 9:46 AM, JourdanM said:

 Spin numbers almost identical for Luke between 221 and 223 

FWIW it sounds like in the video they left the lofts standard on the 221 and 223,  so same spin numbers for Luke on each one but substantially more carry with the 223

[STank724]

10 minutes ago, m_w said:

I’ve only ever played the ZX7 thou. 
 

I think the 223s are going to offer more forgiveness and spin more. Length should be pretty close. 

😲 If this is accurate then Mizuno has a BIG winner on their hands. In my brief testing of ZX7's spin was a little lower than preferred, though playable. Add in possibly more forgiveness then I'm sold. 

 

Thank you for all your contributions to this thread 🤝