Why Does This Site Have So Many Curmudgeons, Negative Nellies and Just Nasty Poster?

[Seeking70s]

Try to help people and the attacks begin.

 

What is wrong with people?

[nitram]

Usually because it's a slow day on their Twitter feed.

[Petethreeput]

I think it has to do with the nature of golf.  Its a hobby, and like fly fishing, skiing, and most any other hobby truthfully, the individual has two beliefs (at least in regard to posting):

1) Since it works for me it is correct, and

2) Generally folks in their hobby over-believe in their abilities and subsequently their opinions carry more weight regardless of the truth.

What I find most odd is this.  Harking back to #1, is that there can only be one way to be correct.  I think, and most of the fights occur in the instruction forum, the reason for Monte being so good is he gives you the basics and then the nuances are up to the individual.  At least that is how it appears to me from the outside.

Edited September 16, 2021 by Petethreeput

[golfortennis]

I think the only posters who get what you are describing are people who post as know it alls, or look to be obviously pumping their post count for the BST.  This site is full of helpful people.  

[MtlJeff]

I don't really think it is. In hundreds of thousands of members you'll get jerks but compared to the rest of the internet this is pretty great

[chipa]

The golf swing is very difficult to master and for some who believe that they have an understanding of the swing they can't accept other methods probably because they don't want swing thoughts that might effect their swing.

 

However, I think most here are like myself who understand some parts of the swing and are here to learn from others who may have a better understanding.

[llamont]

17 hours ago, Seeking70s said:

Try to help people and the attacks begin.

 

What is wrong with people?

This is the internet my friend. As much as many of us would like to think that we’re like-minded golf enthusiasts that share a deep passion for all things golf the brash reality is that this is still the internet. 

[buckeyevalley]

Isn’t this how the world is these days.  

[Qqq123xx]

In any form or forum your always going to have the self righteous self important know it all's. 

[Lobby]

I've been playing golf for over 50 years.

In that time, every single issue of golf magazines have had ads telling you that this club / ball / shoe / grip / glove / tee / and towel will revolutionize your game.

It's all BS.  All of it.

It's hard for me to keep my mouth shut when I see folks still falling for their bs.

[llamont]

1 hour ago, Lobby said:

I've been playing golf for over 50 years.

In that time, every single issue of golf magazines have had ads telling you that this club / ball / shoe / grip / glove / tee / and towel will revolutionize your game.

It's all BS.  All of it.

It's hard for me to keep my mouth shut when I see folks still falling for their bs.

@Lobby your post says it all (for me). I’ve been playing the game for 27 years and I spent the first 23 years drinking from the manufacturers kool aid fountain.  It’s all BS. I say buy equipment as you please but understand that there is no better remedy for poor mechanics/bad play other than proper practice and time. 

[GooseHook]

Without additional commentary on the last two years of life, I'd say the ratio of good people on WRX is better than IRL. It could also be confirmation bias and the fact that the crappy people are often louder. 

 

The phenomenon you're talking about is called gatekeeping. You will see it in pretty much any niche hobby and the only way to combat it is to be patient and welcoming of even the most basic questions. 

[NJBigFish22]

Welcome to the internet!  The place where you can be an anonymous A**hole without any consequences.

[Murphy76]

2 hours ago, llamont said:

@Lobby your post says it all (for me). I’ve been playing the game for 27 years and I spent the first 23 years drinking from the manufacturers kool aid fountain.  It’s all BS. I say buy equipment as you please but understand that there is no better remedy for poor mechanics/bad play other than proper practice and time. 

 

I think you are certainly on to something here.

 

I've always found it interesting that the most heavily posed sub-forum (by far) on Golfwrx is the "Equipment" forum.   Just by that metric, we could assume that people are placing more focus on the tools rather than the activity itself.  

 

Maybe it's what you hinted at:  Got a problem?  Throw money at it.

 

 

[MtlJeff]

Honestly some of you guys should have been here like 2010 - 2012 time frame maybe (?). If you think it's bad now i honestly don't get it. Just stay off the internet then. This place is more civil than 99.9% of sites on the internet. You guys should see the snuff film discussion forum i'm on. LOTS of weirdos

 

For a few years the site reached a tipping point i think , maybe 10 years ago. But a combination of good moderating and good members stepping up and calling out bad ones. We went in the correct direction. I can't remember the last time i saw a thread that resembled any of the stuff we say a while back.

 

 

[2bGood]

This is the most idiotic thread on on the internet...

 

Just kidding. Here is my real view:

 

1. Most of the time, most of the people are actually super friendly here.

2. Some of the time people are being friendly but have a dry sense of humour or don't communicate well in writing and the meaning of their post is received in a way not intended.

3. Some posters enjoy a bit of debate. It is all in good fun, but one party takes it more seriously than intended.

4. Trolls - some people just are.

5. Poor attempts to get in a zinger

6. A few people are jerks

 

All of the above describe me. 

 

[golfortennis]

5 minutes ago, 2bGood said:

This is the most idiotic thread on on the internet...

 

Just kidding. Here is my real view:

 

1. Most of the time, most of the people are actually super friendly here.

2. Some of the time people are being friendly but have a dry sense of humour or don't communicate well in writing and the meaning of their post is received in a way not intended.

3. Some posters enjoy a bit of debate. It is all in good fun, but one party takes it more seriously than intended.

4. Trolls - some people just are.

5. Poor attempts to get in a zinger

6. A few people are jerks

 

All of the above describe me. 

 

 

He was a great player but leaves a lot to be desired as a broadcaster.

 

[Hawkeye77]

On 9/16/2021 at 4:13 PM, Seeking70s said:

Try to help people and the attacks begin.

 

What is wrong with people?

There were no attacks at all and starting this thread whining about the “site” because your thread relentlessly promoting a “medical” treatment was locked up is a little disingenuous. 

[flip flappy]

1 hour ago, MtlJeff said:

Honestly some of you guys should have been here like 2010 - 2012 time frame maybe (?). If you think it's bad now i honestly don't get it. Just stay off the internet then. This place is more civil than 99.9% of sites on the internet. You guys should see the snuff film discussion forum i'm on. LOTS of weirdos

 

For a few years the site reached a tipping point i think , maybe 10 years ago. But a combination of good moderating and good members stepping up and calling out bad ones. We went in the correct direction. I can't remember the last time i saw a thread that resembled any of the stuff we say a while back.

 

 

I agree with this site being cleaned up from years ago. Years ago I was on another golf forum that was really over the top. I think it was Golf Review or something like that. Racist, sexist or anything else was fair game.

 

Snuff film forum? Seriously or joking? 

[Hawkeye77]

10 minutes ago, flip flappy said:

I agree with this site being cleaned up from years ago. Years ago I was on another golf forum that was really over the top. I think it was Golf Review or something like that. Racist, sexist or anything else was fair game.

 

Snuff film forum? Seriously or joking? 

He’s dead serious. Give him the wrong answer on best guitar solo ever and you’ll be starring in the next one!

[Mustard_Tiger]

I've been on message boards of various kinds since 2001-02. I find wrx to definitely be on the civilized end of the spectrum. The moderators here are quick to punish wrongdoers (as they should). Poorly moderator message boards can be a nightmare.

[dlygrisse]

There are people who probably spend too much time here, I have fallen victim to this from time to time,   They get tired of hearing the same questions or topics for the 50th time, they become annoyed, lash out, feel they need to put others in their place. “Use the damn search bar”. 
 

Tiger threads used to be the worst, also Hogan and stack and tilt..  now it’s wedge gapping threads, more wedge gapping threads and threads about Brooks, Bryson and dialing back the ball and how distance is ruing the game. Tiger vs. Jack threads, or threads that start as something else and devolve into one of these will really trigger some drama. 

[MtlJeff]

8 minutes ago, Hawkeye77 said:

He’s dead serious. Give him the wrong answer on best guitar solo ever and you’ll be starring in the next one!

 

Well I was joking in that the dudes on that forum aren't actually that weird. Wish the site had more female members. But a lot of the girls that were in those flicks, not sure what happened to em'

[HappyGilmoresBoots]

There's a certain demographic that are drawn to discussing golf on the internet:

[rooski]

5 hours ago, MtlJeff said:

You guys should see the snuff film discussion forum i'm on. LOTS of weirdos

 

Got a good laugh of this. Some real Norm Macdonald humor right here (RIP)

[Seeking70s]

3 hours ago, Hawkeye77 said:

There were no attacks at all and starting this thread whining about the “site” because your thread relentlessly promoting a “medical” treatment was locked up is a little disingenuous. 

 

Here is a perfect example of what I am talking about. Look at the presumptive attack on me personally.

 

I am mostly a reader here and a seldom poster. 

 

I did start a thread to help people that suffer from golfer elbow

 

and both wanted the thread closed and thanked the mod for closing it.

 

I read a lot of threads and can't believe the amount of negativism. 

 

Many of you have made great points.

 

So many people are just plain negative.

 

In the words of a person of our time, "can't we all just get along?"

 

lol

 

 

Edited September 18, 2021 by Seeking70s
fix spelling error

[rooski]

2 hours ago, Seeking70s said:

 

Here is a perfect example of what I am talking about. Look at the presumptive attack on me personally.

 

I am mostly a reader here and a seldom poster. 

 

I did start a thread to help people that suffer from golfer elbow

 

and both wanted the thread closed and thanked the mod for closing it.

 

I read a lot of threads and can't believe the amount of negativism. 

 

Many of you have made great points.

 

So many people are just plain negative.

 

In the words of a person of our time, "can't we all just get along?"

 

lol

 

 

 

I just read the entire thread in question as well as this one.

 

I'm no oracle of morality but dude you were trying to hard push a random no-name product out of nowhere and brushed off any criticism in all caps.

 

Unreasonable to think you can post something like that in a forum like WRX and not get pushback

Edited September 18, 2021 by rooski

[golfortennis]

9 hours ago, HappyGilmoresBoots said:

There's a certain demographic that are drawn to discussing golf on the internet:

 

One the greatest lines in movie history from there.

 

"I'm going to catch catfish Hunter today."

 

"You couldn't catch crabs from a $10 hooker."

[Hawkeye77]

7 hours ago, Seeking70s said:

 

Here is a perfect example of what I am talking about. Look at the presumptive attack on me personally.

 

I am mostly a reader here and a seldom poster. 

 

I did start a thread to help people that suffer from golfer elbow

 

and both wanted the thread closed and thanked the mod for closing it.

 

I read a lot of threads and can't believe the amount of negativism. 

 

Many of you have made great points.

 

So many people are just plain negative.

 

In the words of a person of our time, "can't we all just get along?"

 

lol

 

 

And there we are.  Nothing about my post was in any way any kind of “personal attack”.  Nothing.  But you want to characterize it that way to further your narrative because you had a thread shut down (for good reason) and play the victim a little bit and start this thread without disclosing the real motive.  No reason to paint the site with the broad brush you are painting it but looking at the facts it would appear this thread is more the problem than the solution. 

Edited September 18, 2021 by Hawkeye77

[Buzzkill]

Closed per OP request.