Sub 70, Haywood, New Level

[Nezzy]

Hello all,

I’m interested in these DTC companies for a new set of irons. Do any of you have experience with these companies? I like the TA III from sub 70, CB’s from Haywood, and the CB’s from New Level. Any of these companies I might want to stay away from due to quality of product or customer service?

[Sons_of_Pitches]

I’ve had the Sub70 699 pros which were pretty good.  I’m currently playing the New Level 902-PD’s and absolutely love them. I like them over the 699’s on both looks and feel. Both companies have great customer service so you can’t go wrong there.  I know these aren’t the specific models you were asking about, but thought I’d chime in anyways with my experience with the two companies.

[RolandofGilead]

27 minutes ago, Nezzy said:

Hello all,

I’m interested in these DTC companies for a new set of irons. Do any of you have experience with these companies? I like the TA III from sub 70, CB’s from Haywood, and the CB’s from New Level. Any of these companies I might want to stay away from due to quality of product or customer service?

Sub 70 and New Level are great to work with and I’ve heard nothing but positives about Haywood. You should absolutely demo each iron.

[vandyfan]

I demoed both Sub70 (639 CBs) and New Level (902s and MODB-1) and found them to all be of equal build quality to higher end stuff. Obviously they lack some of the flashy tech that large OEMs have to trot out to get attention and market around but the feel and performance was right there. I liked Haywood but at the time they didn't have demos available I was looking for. I ultimately choose another DTC brand (Ben Hogan) but that was just because I had the best numbers with their configuration. I could have easily played the New Levels or Sub 70s and they would have been improvements over my Cobras. I still think about those blacked out 639CBs...often. 

[lefthack]

They all make pretty sweet gear, but only Haywood makes everything in both left and right. 

[snowman0157]

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[Japayne]

I’ve hit the sub 70 before. Not a bad feeling club. But, last week I walked past a guy on the range looking for his sub 70 head down range.

 

 

[postfold]

Only have had experience with Sub70, but their customer service is top notch.  Great people.  Very happy with my purchases too.

[Wolfhammer]

47 minutes ago, postfold said:

Only have had experience with Sub70, but their customer service is top notch.  Great people.  Very happy with my purchases too.

 

+1

[jsmcdon]

Can’t go wrong with any of the 3. 

[LukeDonaldsTiger]

Happy New Level customer here. Great product, one of the few to nail the specs I ordered, and you get answers within minutes from the CEO himself. Will buy again. 
 

I‘m somewhat bummed they’ve discontinued the OG 902 Forged. I think those are a legendary iron already and I’m hunting on eBay for a replacement once mine wear out. The perfect player’s iron, IMO. 

[Myherobobhope]

4 hours ago, Nezzy said:

Hello all,

I’m interested in these DTC companies for a new set of irons. Do any of you have experience with these companies? I like the TA III from sub 70, CB’s from Haywood, and the CB’s from New Level. Any of these companies I might want to stay away from due to quality of product or customer service?

I have nothing but good things to say about sub70… quality, customer service and cost… they are great.

[gioreeko]

the pics of the new Sub 70 659 irons look so good

[Newguy123]

Just got the 902-OS from new level and the customer service was great, the owner Eric answered my questions within the hour and was very helpful. Definitely highly recommend. I am interested in trying a sub 70 wide blade or Fang tooth though, hoping to find one used in Canada or hoping that the Canadian distributor gets a pre-owned one at some point, early communications with Sub 70 have been great though. Seems like all of these three are great choices from both personal experience and a little digging of my own before making my iron set purchase. Love the idea of supporting a smaller company, and saving money on top quality products it's really a complete win win

Edited March 19, 2022 by Newguy123

[gioreeko]

16 hours ago, Japayne said:

I’ve hit the sub 70 before. Not a bad feeling club. But, last week I walked past a guy on the range looking for his sub 70 head down range.

 

 

I've seen pretty much every brand have a flier at some point, that's not unique

[Feelingofgreatness]

I have yet to catch a Flier with my 902OS irons. Quality is right up there is my Miuras. I wish NL had a deeper graphite shaft offering like MMTs and Accra iCWTs. 

[ChadL]

2 hours ago, Feelingofgreatness said:

I have yet to catch a Flier with my 902OS irons. Quality is right up there is my Miuras. I wish NL had a deeper graphite shaft offering like MMTs and Accra iCWTs. 

They used to carry more graphite shafts. Not sure if it was a supply issue or just trying to keep inventory more manageable by reducing the number of shaft offerings as to why they’re no longer available. Way back in the day he had a huge shaft offering. I had Oban 115s put in my 623-Ms. That was 2018....I think. 

Edited March 19, 2022 by ChadL

[Sons_of_Pitches]

21 hours ago, Japayne said:

I’ve hit the sub 70 before. Not a bad feeling club. But, last week I walked past a guy on the range looking for his sub 70 head down range.

 

 

Another possible reason is that he could of bought the heads only and built them himself. 😉 just sayn’

Edited March 19, 2022 by Sons_of_Pitches

[Phabs]

I’ve been impressed in everyone of my dealings with new level.  They have the best driving iron I’ve ever swung.  I demod their PF1’s and PF2’s but ended up going with MP20’s instead.  

Edited March 19, 2022 by Phabs

[Qegurezi]

3 hours ago, Sons_of_Pitches said:

Another possible reason is that he could of bought the heads only and built them himself. 😉 just sayn’

 

It was a curious first ever post, to say the least. 

[lefthack]

I will also say all 3 will give you a level of support you don't get from OEM's. You can't talk to the CEO of Callaway via web chat. 🤣

[Ger21]

On 3/18/2022 at 5:45 PM, lefthack said:

but only Haywood makes everything in both left and right. 

Sub 70 has 3 new irons coming out next month that will all be available in LH. You might need another set.....

659MB

659TC

659CB

The MB and CB's are already on their website, but not yet for sale.

[NRJyzr]

I guess I'm having a dense moment...  what is a TC?

[Ger21]

I think they call it a Tour Cavity, between the CB and MB. They haven't posted any photos of them yet.

[5 O'Clock Charlie]

I have the New Level 623 CB's and as well as their wedges. I need to do some sort of a review with pics. I'm never buying from a major OEM again.

[Cactus Jack]

I’ve never hit them, or even seen them, but you might want to give Takomo a serious look too. TXG gives their irons high praise, along with all DTC brands they test, but the Takomos look especially nice to my eye. 

[Ger21]

The new forged clubs this spring from both New Level and Sub70 look incredible, and make it hard to spend 30%-40% more for one of the major brands.

Sub70's drivers and woods are a fantastic value as well.

In a few months, I'll likely have an almost all Sub70 bag.

[lefthack]

2 hours ago, Ger21 said:

Sub 70 has 3 new irons coming out next month that will all be available in LH. You might need another set.....

659MB

659TC

659CB

The MB and CB's are already on their website, but not yet for sale.

 

Maybe? Not sure on this look. I prefer a cleaner look to my MB's.

 

 

[NRJyzr]

5 minutes ago, lefthack said:

 

Maybe? Not sure on this look. I prefer a cleaner look to my MB's.

 

 

 

A bit of the old T-Zoid look  

 

[games]

On 3/18/2022 at 3:15 PM, Nezzy said:

Hello all,

I’m interested in these DTC companies for a new set of irons. Do any of you have experience with these companies? I like the TA III from sub 70, CB’s from Haywood, and the CB’s from New Level. Any of these companies I might want to stay away from due to quality of product or customer service?

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