Speith needs a new caddie.....

[stinger_gc]

Oh dear I hope we don't go down this rabbit hole for threads. Next thing you know I'll be responding to the following threads

 

• Phil needs a new accountant
• Tiger needs a new chiropractor
• Jon Rahm needs a new diet/workout regimine
• Scottie Scheffler needs to learn how to hit a draw

Edited May 22, 2022 by KizIsTheMan

[shoot4par]

9 hours ago, Socrates said:

Spieth over-analyzes every shot.  I truly believe most of his  poor shot results are from him trying to figure out every possible effect the wind, elevation, blade of grass and spin of the earth has on the shot and he never just hits the damn shot.  You're not that good.  Not even close.  JT is also getting this way.  Just make a quick evaluation and hit the shot. 

 

No need to look like this guy every time you want to hit a shot:

IF YJS is Egbert Jr, what Looney Tune character do you associate with Dechambeau? 

 

 

[Pingfitz]

Caddie is fine, not thread jacking but the coach is the needed change.

[bladehunter]

I’d put Michael in the top 5-7 caddies on either tours .  Nobody thought he needed a new Caddie in 2015.  

[ChipStrokes]

3 hours ago, shoot4par said:

IF YJS is Egbert Jr, what Looney Tune character do you associate with Dechambeau? 

 

 

Dr. Moron

 

[dan360]

Mike Greller is a good dude.   He helps Spieth's mental foundation quite a bit more than we see via the camera shots, and it's very much a student-teacher type of thing with them.   Just a hunch....

[JohnnyCashForever]

On 5/20/2022 at 4:21 PM, jonsnow said:

Don't think it's his caddie. That forward press he does is really fast, I wonder if it causes issues with face angle.

What if he replaced the forward press with his full swing pre-shot routine?

 

 

[Feelingofgreatness]

Considering he's going through a major swing change, a win and a 2nd in the last few months is very impressive. 

[Socrates]

13 hours ago, KizIsTheMan said:

Oh dear I hope we don't go down this rabbit hole for threads. Next thing you know we'll be the following threads

 

• Phil needs a new accountant
• Tiger needs a new chiropractor
• Jon Rahm needs a new diet/workout regimen
• Scottie Scheffler needs to learn how to hit a draw

Fantastic!  My next 4 threads.

 

All valid btw.

[gvogel]

23 hours ago, Socrates said:

Spieth over-analyzes every shot.  I truly believe most of his  poor shot results are from him trying to figure out every possible effect the wind, elevation, blade of grass and spin of the earth has on the shot and he never just hits the damn shot.  You're not that good.  Not even close.  JT is also getting this way.  Just make a quick evaluation and hit the shot. 

 

No need to look like this guy every time you want to hit a shot:

I thought that was Bryson golf.

[Socrates]

2 hours ago, gvogel said:

I thought that was Bryson golf.

It still is, but Spieth goes thru a whole meteorological forecast and then goes thru the complete minutia of the lie and green conditions.  Pick a yardage and hit the shot!!!  While I'm still middle aged.

Edited May 22, 2022 by Socrates

[r0scoe]

I get a kick out of watching Jordan play. He talks to himself after every fuckup just like the guys I play with 😄

[chigolfer1]

On 5/21/2022 at 8:24 AM, Socrates said:

Spieth over-analyzes every shot.  I truly believe most of his  poor shot results are from him trying to figure out every possible effect the wind, elevation, blade of grass and spin of the earth has on the shot and he never just hits the damn shot.  You're not that good.  Not even close.  JT is also getting this way.  Just make a quick evaluation and hit the shot. 

 

No need to look like this guy every time you want to hit a shot:

 

 

To be clear though, he's hitting very few poor shots.  The only thing he can't do right now is putt:

 

https://www.pgatour.com/players/player.34046.jordan-spieth.html

 

SG off the tee: .467 (26th)

approach: .643 (13)

around the green: .259 (39)

putting: -.386 (177)

tee to green: 1.37 (8)

[rblmp32]

11 minutes ago, chigolfer1 said:

 

 

To be clear though, he's hitting very few poor shots.  The only thing he can't do right now is putt:

 

https://www.pgatour.com/players/player.34046.jordan-spieth.html

 

SG off the tee: .467 (26th)

approach: .643 (13)

around the green: .259 (39)

putting: -.386 (177)

tee to green: 1.37 (8)

 

 

Which is mind boggling considering how good his putting was in the past.   

[Cincy_Ken]

35 minutes ago, chigolfer1 said:

 

 

To be clear though, he's hitting very few poor shots.  The only thing he can't do right now is putt:

 

https://www.pgatour.com/players/player.34046.jordan-spieth.html

 

SG off the tee: .467 (26th)

approach: .643 (13)

around the green: .259 (39)

putting: -.386 (177)

tee to green: 1.37 (8)

I believe his ST tee to green was #1 at HT and #2 at Nelson; that might have been during the final round of the Nelson I heard that.  Swing changes seem pretty solid right now.  During the weekend of the PGA I know they said he was 77/79 SG putting so he was probably hitting it good there too  Often times chasing ball striking leads to putting falling off.  I fully expect as Spieth gets more comfortable with the swing the Spieth magic around the greens will come back.

[Ghostwedge]

On 5/20/2022 at 4:12 PM, Big Cat 3 said:

Their grandstanding act was old 5 years ago ... both need to go away 

Tiger and Rory look pissed playing with these clowns 

LOL.... Spieth and Greller aren't the reason.

.....checks leaderboard. T didn't finish and R didn't win. ✅

[Bye]

No Jordan is just fine, he will sort the putting out soon and the rest of his game is going in the right direction.

 

I agree with the comment about Rory though. Listening to JT’s post tournament interview is clear what a difference Bones has made. 

[Socrates]

3 hours ago, r0scoe said:

I get a kick out of watching Jordan play. He talks to himself after every fuckup just like the guys I play with 😄

The big difference is that he does it before he hits the shot.  Followed by analysis post shot.   I wonder if Greller just has to smoke a couple after the round just to even it out?

[Double Mocha Man]

20 minutes ago, Socrates said:

The big difference is that he does it before he hits the shot.  Followed by analysis post shot.   I wonder if Greller just has to smoke a couple after the round just to even it out?

 

Good thing Jordan's a pretty good golfer.  If he was an ordinary guy able to afford a caddie his looper would just tell Jordan to "Shut the f**k up". 
 

Greller used to be a teacher... he should just tell Jordan if he doesn't quiet down he'll need to go to the Principal's office.

 

Otherwise Jordan seems to be a great guy.

[chigolfer1]

4 hours ago, r0scoe said:

I get a kick out of watching Jordan play. He talks to himself after every fuckup just like the guys I play with 😄

 

exactly, pretty funny stuff.   he comes off as such a dork, it's sorta refreshing.

 

and watching greller react/try not to react is comedy gold

Edited May 24, 2022 by chigolfer1

[m d g]

On 5/21/2022 at 2:54 PM, Unplayablelies said:

In the end reading greens is the golfers issue, not a second party. 

Agree...if you need someone else to read the green for you, you will never be very good. But it is nice to do your read and then get confirmation of the read for confidence... If two people both read it wrong you weren't going to make the putt anyway.

[dcfas]

On 5/21/2022 at 7:12 PM, shoot4par said:

IF YJS is Egbert Jr, what Looney Tune character do you associate with Dechambeau? 

 

 

Gossamer

[shoot4par]

At this point Greller , YJS might be the most successful current caddie /player partnership on the PGA TOUR. 3 Majors, 16 total professional wins. I'm trying to think of other intact duos out there that are that good. Brooks - Rick Elliot (maybe) , Ted Scott - Scheffler (eventually - maybe) , DJ - AJ (seems like a stretch IMO). I can't think of any that are in the same category. Jordan seems like a pretty good human. Only complaint about YJS was when he wasn't striking it that great or showing well, he was really giving Greller the lash. He's still the guy hitting the shot in the end, so the buck stops there. 

[Wander Bread]

Spieth's caddie needs a new bag is more like it. I can't imagine the amount that Greller drinks to deal with the incessant b*tching from Jordo

[Ferguson]

Jordan's problem is deeper than his caddie. 

[DON SVO]

5 minutes ago, Ferguson said:

Jordan's problem is deeper than his caddie. 

 

... don't do it.

[Ferguson]

1 hour ago, DON SVO said:

 

... don't do it.

 

I am trying to resist. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jordan could be having problems at home. 

[ray9898]

My my my....I love this place.

 

16 wins....3 majors. Goes through a horrible stretch that sees him drop as far as 92nd in the world rankings, through hard work he has now climbed all the way back to the current #9 yet the internet is full of advice on what he needs to do for succeed.

[Zitlow]

Bobby Jones on professional golfers and caddies: During the rigors of a golf tournament a professional golfer will occasionally hit an errant shot. Instead of taking personal responsivity for the errant shot upon his own shoulders the professional golfer will oftentimes blame an outside agency such as weather conditions, turf conditions and many times he blames his caddie. Now the caddie profession is a very noble profession however some caddies give the profession a bad name. They show up at the golf course slovenly dressed with the smell of alcohol on their breath. 

[Double Mocha Man]

2 minutes ago, Zitlow said:

Bobby Jones on professional golfers and caddies: During the rigors of a golf tournament a professional golfer will occasionally hit an errant shot. Instead of taking personal responsivity for the errant shot upon his own shoulders the professional golfer will oftentimes blame an outside agency such as weather conditions, turf conditions and many times he blames his caddie. Now the caddie profession is a very noble profession however some caddies give the profession a bad name. They show up at the golf course slovenly dressed with the smell of alcohol on their breath. 

 

I used to caddie... though I wasn't old enough to have alcohol on my breath.  Did Mr. Jones ever have a cocktail?