Tiger and Nike golf to separate after PNC? (*** MERGED ***)

[pmo09]

41 minutes ago, TheMoneyShot said:

All the stripes on the new logo represents the 15 majors he won.  

 

Someone is going to need to draw this one out for me because I do not count 15

[zap311]

Per WRX Instagram, the shoes look good! https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3RW6CLsTU_/?igsh=MWQ1ZGUxMzBkMA==
 

 

[Holy Moses]

The shoes look decent.

 

⬇️ Via MGS. 
 

 

[Holy Moses]

[TheMoneyShot]

8 minutes ago, pmo09 said:

 

Someone is going to need to draw this one out for me because I do not count 15

That’s what they said.  TW told them when he wins #16 they will need a new logo😂

[TheMoneyShot]

Hope they make some shoes with replacement spikes. 

[Holy Moses]

Via Adam Schupak. Welcome back the late 90s and early to mid 2000s.

 

 

 

 

[jds101086]

[TheMoneyShot]

Nike is probably laughing their asses off right now. 

[GC70]

who's making the shoes?

[Porriginio8]

On 2/12/2024 at 9:05 AM, jds101086 said:

 

Valid.

Tiger didn’t decide to leave Nike. Nike cut a ton of players as they didn’t want/couldn’t afford them any longer. I’m sure it was open discussion and Tiger knew this before anyone outside of the decision makers at Nike. Probably why a mock up of his logo came out so soon after the announcement.

I could be wrong(probably am) that if Tiger had no suitors for an apparel line, he wouldn’t pursue one on his own from the ground up. He’s not a fashionable guy and seems to not give a sh*t what he wears.

If TM were to buy Grayson they would have wanted it regardless of having a TW line. As we all know Tigers Nike line never sold well, I’d have to assume a single digit percentage of their golf apparel sales. It’d be a reasonable thing to assume that SDR line would capture cannibalize some go Grayson sales and grow it marginally. TM being as large as they are and Grayson being as niche as they are I can’t imagine a scenario where TM would look at the projections and numbers and feel good about the investment. If Nike gets out of an industry where they make money, but not enough money; I’d assume TM would feel the same. Is the juice worth the squeeze or are we getting into a new market just because we can? 

Also TM being owned by private equity plays a part. Those people aren’t looking to make big investments and buying up companies.

Grayson is made in Peru, it’s not like they have their own factories spitting out polos. TM could pick up the phone and in 5 minutes have 5 comparable factories. Quality is not something you have to learn or throw massive R&D money at. Grayson doesn’t do anything a major company couldn’t learn in a week. If this were clubs then yes you’d have to figure how much time and money you’d save in R&D by just buying a company who already has that done.

So they buy Grayson for $100mil(no clue their value) and what are they getting they couldn’t figure out in a short amount of time? A growing company, a reputation, and saving a handful of months of time to spin up the SDR line? 

The way TM and Tiger make the most out of this is doing it themselves. launching a new line, next to the one you bought already in the hole $100mil? Obviously there will be large start up costs but not $100mil.

Not touching the equity piece as we have no clue who has what and what it’s worth.

Stepping away from the business side and back to a golfer who buys this stuff. Travis Mathews quality has fallen off a cliff since Callaway bout them. No reason not to assume as much if TM buys Grayson. Grayson will never be near top 5 in clothing as far as volume. Too niche, expensive, small presence at clubs and retail. Obviously they will continue to grow but I can’t imagine anyone over 40 wearing their fit/style of clothing.

Then you have Tigers new logo… and it’s a**. JT doesn’t make one ounce of a difference in Tiger and TM’s decision making. He doesn’t move the needle at all. If equity plays out and JT gets a little extra cash thanks to a deal it’s a happy little sidenote.

Taylormade are selling apparel already, it is easily available in Japan and south east Asia.

[gordogolfer8]

Sorry, deleting pics that were already posted

 

 

Edited February 13 by gordogolfer8
Already posted above

[third-times-a-charm]

New slazenger release is 🔥🔥

[DatSliceDoe]

2 hours ago, TheMoneyShot said:

I didn’t see anything about headcovers during tonight’s presser.  I’m sure they will have something if I had to guess though. 

[SigmaKyle31987]

1 hour ago, GC70 said:

who's making the shoes?

GFore is my guess based on the sole & spikes.

[jds101086]

4 minutes ago, SigmaKyle31987 said:

GFore is my guess based on the sole & spikes.

And here I thought they were the aborted lovechild of Ecco and True.

[JungleJimbo]

9 hours ago, Frankensteins Monster said:

They tried hard to capture one of the best Nike/Tiger commercials of all-time, swing portrait. 
 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3RTBoWtUcM/?igsh=MWw0bWlteDRkMGdzOQ==

 

 

 

thanks @Frankensteins Monster...

Paying it forward...

Twitter Video posted here, to save others a click/search.

 

 

Edited February 13 by JungleJimbo

[drn92]

Not good. Logo could be better, too much like Slazenger (and even a little Norman/Shark). Patterns are dated and logo placement at the bottom of the placket doesn’t work for me (too much like Oakley polos). Based on the product description, I bet they are more expensive than Lulu and similar brands, which is about my max (especially for something I’ll wear and get hot and sweaty with sunscreen). Shoes are a hard “maybe” if the specs fit my preferences. 
 

Also … Sun Day Red?  Sunday Red would have been better. 
 

drn92

Edited February 13 by drn92

[PlatinumNike]

this hoodie looks prime 🔥
 

 

the caps look Wack because of the logo 

Edited February 13 by PlatinumNike

[kwcsports]

4 hours ago, Holy Moses said:

Logos are a crucial way to introduce your product and that logo just screams amateur hour. Tiger’s clothes look like everything else out there but with a logo that looks like it was made in Microsoft Paint. 
 

What is ⬇️? You can tell Tiger has a big hand in this and that’s not a good thing looking at his clothing choices historically. 

 

This is the ugliest shirt I've ever seen

[kwcsports]

I like the shoes though. Logo might grow on me, don't care for it after first look. Hoody Tiger has on looks ok. Curious about pricing

[GC70]

Do we know if the hats are fitted?

[Frankensteins Monster]

This is all so Slazenger. 

[Minarets]

Those hats look like Nike.  Especially the white with the perforation on the top.  That’s a Nike hat. 

[JungleJimbo]

23 minutes ago, Frankensteins Monster said:

This is all so Slazenger. 

 

Folks here might only associate Slazenger with Wimbledon... but others who follow football/ soccer will also associate Slazenger with Mike Ashley i.e. the former Newcastle United FC owner who purchased the Dunlop/Slazenger brands... once posh, now a poor shadow.

 

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slazenger 

 

[TheMoneyShot]

7 hours ago, drn92 said:

Not good. Logo could be better, too much like Slazenger (and even a little Norman/Shark). Patterns are dated and logo placement at the bottom of the placket doesn’t work for me (too much like Oakley polos). Based on the product description, I bet they are more expensive than Lulu and similar brands, which is about my max (especially for something I’ll wear and get hot and sweaty with sunscreen). Shoes are a hard “maybe” if the specs fit my preferences. 
 

Also … Sun Day Red?  Sunday Red would have been better. 
 

drn92

Looking at the comments on socials from the people who were at the launch party last night, this line will cost more than anything in the market currently.  Just crazy imho. 

[snagy2000]

1 hour ago, TheMoneyShot said:

Looking at the comments on socials from the people who were at the launch party last night, this line will cost more than anything in the market currently.  Just crazy imho. 

No crazier than asking $1,800 for a Toulon...Golf is ripe with foolish money, it will sell...

[TheMoneyShot]

1 minute ago, snagy2000 said:

No crazier than asking $1,800 for a Toulon...Golf is ripe with foolish money, it will sell...

We shall see…

[doc52]

Nike Golf: Let's have the Nike SB team design golf apparel...

 

Sun Day Red: Let's have the Quicksilver/RVCA guy head up a "premium" golf apparel company...

 

When will these folks learn.

 

 

[PowerFade36]

26 minutes ago, doc52 said:

Nike Golf: Let's have the Nike SB team design golf apparel...

 

Sun Day Red: Let's have the Quicksilver/RVCA guy head up a "premium" golf apparel company...

 

When will these folks learn.

 

 

But Nikes strategy sorta makes sense: minimal effort and budget, allow existing athletes contracts to expire, minimal r&d and consolidation with SB. Meanwhile leverage existing distribution channels to still roll out product for their ~9th most popular sport and maximize profits. 

 

Sun Day Red: did anyone really ask for this?